ricardo and zwei ishmael has to be my favorite example of powercreep in limbus so far. this wall of a stage designed to feel unbeatable when first released is now practically a sweep to solo thanks to ishmael having one of the most hideously overtuned ids in the game
I mean... It's more that this Ish happens to deal blunt damage and resist it, while also scaling defense level on herself. Since it's a solo, her defense level gain escalates way beyond normal amounts (thanks to extra slots) and she takes way, way less damage than usual as a result. She counters this boss because her kit suits this fight very well. Other blunt Ish IDs can also solo this fight without being overleveled, but may struggle more due to not having this extreme tankiness. But yeah, she is very powerful, there's no denying that. Edit: essentially, this is one of those IDs that really appreciate having extra slots.
@@SpookiDher only fault is not having sloth and being weak to lust and sloth, which are very abundant among enemies, but when your biggest fault is STILL subjective, you've got nun' to compain about
I've been stuck on this stage for 2 weeks now, I'm going to try this again with this setup and your instructions. If I beat him, I'm gonna give myself a lobotomy
thank you for making this, I totaly forgot this id of her was this strong and could just cheese this with her, I was stuck on it for 2h before I saw this vid, so again, thank you
@@serraramayfield9230or not. Ryoshu has shit with all the fingers, so i can see us getting a ricardo boss fight in dungeon followed by the real boss, like dongbaek -> dongrang, pequodtrio -> ahab and sancho -> old quixote
@@serraramayfield9230 no way he is, i can see him being able to fight Line 1 Thumb, but nothing other than that. Hell, i'd say current limbus can probably fight him pretty even or win
@@augimas6094 "current limbus could win against him" you're forgetting that Ricardo was canonically holding back to an unknown degree, lets himself take double damage throughout his fight and STILL wins (read: oneshotting the group) when he stops fucking around
1 thing to note about this, is that because of the lv diff btw the identity and the enemy, ish is gaining extra base and clash power, but yah zwei ish is kinda bonkers
@@su4682 I just beat Ricardo yesterday with solo Zwei Ishma. I have no idea why a solo Ishma can do what a full team of level 40 id's can't, because i legit cannot begin to comprehend how the fuck sre you supposed to beat him normally, even with Zwei in my team she gets decimated if i bring a full team and Ricardo punishes you for doing absolutely anything. Blocking? Punished by eating debuffs for breakfast. Clashing? You get debuffs vie counter. You lost a clash? Good luck ever winning another. You let a turn pass? Good luck winning a clash, Ricardo and his goons got 20 Sanity for free and have coins with plus 7 each. Lost a clash? Sorry, you're never winning another one ever again. I don't understand what the fuck is the point in this fight, i get that it's meant to feel impossible and even doing it solo felt impossible, how do you even beat this with base ids? Where am i supposed to punish him if by the time he gives a "punish window" he's already staggered half my team, and left the other half so debuffed that they do piss little damage, all while the 2 annoying ass goons debuff the remaining members
@@countcrocodile1115Take whatever ishmael you want and a second ID with lots of blunt skills (And preferably as best blunt resistance as possible) since ishmael can't die while you have at least one other ally, redirect whatever dangerous attacks possible with her (prioritize targetting enemies that target the second person obviously, and just leave the ones already targetting ishy be if you don't have the skill slots) Wave 1 stall out, like I said, redirect any attack towards ishmael until you get all 6 skill slots, you might need to get a bit lucky turn 1 to have 3 enemies targetting ishy naturally, redirect another attack with ishy and get a good clash with the other person, keep that going until you have 6 skill slots and max sanity on the other person. Wave 2 should be straightforward considering the 6 slot max sanity setup Wave 3 ignore the minions unless they're targetting the second person with paralyze, ishy clashing priorities are: 1. Strong ricardo skill 2. Ricardo counter skill 3. Minions inflicting paralyze on the second person And the other person just unga-bungas Ricardo, if you have a good clash on a ricardo skill take it (Ricardo's 3 coin skill is a good candidate, otherwise feel free to do unopposed attacks) When he's in big brother mode (the thing that gives him bind and makes him take double damage), on I believe the second turn he does a guard and an evade, If your two sinner combo with ishmael has appropriate sin resources, her base ego can get past his evade guaranteed I was lucky that my second sinner (Red eyes + penitence Ryoshu (level 34 UT4) is also my strongest unit and has all blunt skills and has 0.5 blunt resistance, but I'm sure considering Ricardo's bound to take 400% damage in big brother mode (200% from blunt weakness *2 for big brother mode) any moderately good sinner with blunt damage skills should be good enough)
Oh I somehow missed the part of your comment where you said you beat it damn. I'll leave it up for anyone who might open it who needs advice since i wrote allat already lmao, sorry anyway
Close enough welcome back floor of religion
All praise our lord and savior Ayin
Also: Blockma balls
"Blocked, you're all blocked."
Its so sad that ricardo died of blockmael
@@M3mMMriz3who the fuck is ricardo
who the hell is Ricardo?
i suddenly pressed the winrate on the screen i thought i was playing...
i love how Zweimael's skill 3 is basicly "Kill an enemy if you blocked last turn" button
ricardo and zwei ishmael has to be my favorite example of powercreep in limbus so far. this wall of a stage designed to feel unbeatable when first released is now practically a sweep to solo thanks to ishmael having one of the most hideously overtuned ids in the game
The same ID that can tank practically everything is capable of dishing out 400+ damage. Truly a tremor ID of all time.
I mean... It's more that this Ish happens to deal blunt damage and resist it, while also scaling defense level on herself. Since it's a solo, her defense level gain escalates way beyond normal amounts (thanks to extra slots) and she takes way, way less damage than usual as a result. She counters this boss because her kit suits this fight very well. Other blunt Ish IDs can also solo this fight without being overleveled, but may struggle more due to not having this extreme tankiness.
But yeah, she is very powerful, there's no denying that.
Edit: essentially, this is one of those IDs that really appreciate having extra slots.
@@SpookiDdon't forget that Ricardo is blunt fatal and takes double damage due to his test debuff. He takes 4x damage.
@@oatmeal3919 Oh yeah definitely. Gave Zwei Ish the first slot in 5 member tremor team and she just put in the work. 👍
@@SpookiDher only fault is not having sloth and being weak to lust and sloth, which are very abundant among enemies, but when your biggest fault is STILL subjective, you've got nun' to compain about
I've been stuck on this stage for 2 weeks now, I'm going to try this again with this setup and your instructions. If I beat him, I'm gonna give myself a lobotomy
it was that easy, really? 3 weeks, man. 3 fucking weeks
@@jodaload2709This is a certified powercreep moment (btw you couldve cheesed the fight witj base ish and nclair support)
So, how's the lobotomy going?
@@jodaload2709 were waiting on that lobotomy update
you should open a corporation
close enough, welcome back health hauler from library of ruina
thank you for making this, I totaly forgot this id of her was this strong and could just cheese this with her, I was stuck on it for 2h before I saw this vid, so again, thank you
Glad I could help. 🙏
SAMEEEEE, i borrowed her and instantly won on my first try solo after watching the video! (i was stuck in this level all day)
BROOO THE ONE OF MY FRIEND IS UNDER LEVEL IM ALREADY TWO DAYS STUCK HERE 😭😭😭😭@@APPL3047
“I raised that girl.”
- Blockma, Arch Bishop of the Church of Ayin.
Close enough welcome back blockma
Pm: back to the mirror dungeon to grind ego shards!!
Me:tick tock tick tock (yes limbus....)
Tankmael hits like a truck, tanks like a tank, truly is a tank unit that many will often use
The rematch in the future better has us completely annihilating him.
it's gonna be a while until that happens
@@serraramayfield9230or not. Ryoshu has shit with all the fingers, so i can see us getting a ricardo boss fight in dungeon followed by the real boss, like dongbaek -> dongrang, pequodtrio -> ahab and sancho -> old quixote
@ the guy's easily SoTC and we're not up to that point yet
@@serraramayfield9230 no way he is, i can see him being able to fight Line 1 Thumb, but nothing other than that. Hell, i'd say current limbus can probably fight him pretty even or win
@@augimas6094 "current limbus could win against him" you're forgetting that Ricardo was canonically holding back to an unknown degree, lets himself take double damage throughout his fight and STILL wins (read: oneshotting the group) when he stops fucking around
I want to thank you, your video helped me finally beat him.
the sound of a hunkiness of metal that sword Ishmael's yeild it's so satisfying to listen, too big by calling it a sword damn they're so right dwag.
Blocked, blocked, blocked
Youre all blocked. None of you are free of sin.
“My true successor”
-blockma balls to iggymail
BlockMael sound much better
1 thing to note about this, is that because of the lv diff btw the identity and the enemy, ish is gaining extra base and clash power, but yah zwei ish is kinda bonkers
Standing here I realize you are just like me triying to make history
there should be an alternative post fight cutscene that shows ricardo just sitting down baffled instead of the lame forced loss
I am so happy i found this before i started to crash out
“I better keep my ass in canto V”
Ricardo watching a ginger hit a flying fist on him like Markiplier:
Me when Blockma said Blockma balls:
lebron james seen trying to offset a counter
Ricardo used to be hard
The first wave of K Corp bouncers with the funny defensive heal bullet skill and hp regen per turn used to be hard as well.
@@newCoCoY6 the time when i don't understand how coin power works 😭
@@su4682 I just beat Ricardo yesterday with solo Zwei Ishma. I have no idea why a solo Ishma can do what a full team of level 40 id's can't, because i legit cannot begin to comprehend how the fuck sre you supposed to beat him normally, even with Zwei in my team she gets decimated if i bring a full team and Ricardo punishes you for doing absolutely anything. Blocking? Punished by eating debuffs for breakfast. Clashing? You get debuffs vie counter. You lost a clash? Good luck ever winning another. You let a turn pass? Good luck winning a clash, Ricardo and his goons got 20 Sanity for free and have coins with plus 7 each. Lost a clash? Sorry, you're never winning another one ever again. I don't understand what the fuck is the point in this fight, i get that it's meant to feel impossible and even doing it solo felt impossible, how do you even beat this with base ids? Where am i supposed to punish him if by the time he gives a "punish window" he's already staggered half my team, and left the other half so debuffed that they do piss little damage, all while the 2 annoying ass goons debuff the remaining members
@@countcrocodile1115Take whatever ishmael you want and a second ID with lots of blunt skills (And preferably as best blunt resistance as possible) since ishmael can't die while you have at least one other ally, redirect whatever dangerous attacks possible with her (prioritize targetting enemies that target the second person obviously, and just leave the ones already targetting ishy be if you don't have the skill slots)
Wave 1 stall out, like I said, redirect any attack towards ishmael until you get all 6 skill slots, you might need to get a bit lucky turn 1 to have 3 enemies targetting ishy naturally, redirect another attack with ishy and get a good clash with the other person, keep that going until you have 6 skill slots and max sanity on the other person.
Wave 2 should be straightforward considering the 6 slot max sanity setup
Wave 3 ignore the minions unless they're targetting the second person with paralyze, ishy clashing priorities are:
1. Strong ricardo skill
2. Ricardo counter skill
3. Minions inflicting paralyze on the second person
And the other person just unga-bungas Ricardo, if you have a good clash on a ricardo skill take it (Ricardo's 3 coin skill is a good candidate, otherwise feel free to do unopposed attacks)
When he's in big brother mode (the thing that gives him bind and makes him take double damage), on I believe the second turn he does a guard and an evade, If your two sinner combo with ishmael has appropriate sin resources, her base ego can get past his evade guaranteed
I was lucky that my second sinner (Red eyes + penitence Ryoshu (level 34 UT4) is also my strongest unit and has all blunt skills and has 0.5 blunt resistance, but I'm sure considering Ricardo's bound to take 400% damage in big brother mode (200% from blunt weakness *2 for big brother mode) any moderately good sinner with blunt damage skills should be good enough)
Oh I somehow missed the part of your comment where you said you beat it damn.
I'll leave it up for anyone who might open it who needs advice since i wrote allat already lmao, sorry anyway
What does the Tank do when all the DDs are on a vacation?
DAMAGE-DAMAGE-DAMAGE!!!
I love Gutsmael
thank you so much
PLEASE I NEED SOMEONE SO I CAN GET THE ISHMAEL IM ALREADY CREASING MY JORDANS OVER THIS
lmao the entire strat for Ricardo is blockmael / blockmael+ any dps character
Oh my god it’s nuts from bernerk
can i use your ishmael as support 🙏
zwei mael is surely meta
@@neroblitz9336 si
i just used random skills