Out of all the videos I have watched about how refineries work, this is the only one that I’ve watched that actually helped me to understand it. Thank you for this awesome video!
Fascinating. While today's refineries are obviously much more involved, I assumed the early process for refining oil into kerosene, etc was more complicated. Who knew it was just distillation? Thank you.
This was great! I'm starting an oil drilling refining company now after watching this. The EV thing is a scam, there's not enough power generation for that nonsense.
It would be easier to buy some property with some old wells on it. Just don't get to aggressive on those old wells. Just make sure you get mineral rights and lease rights.
@@gelias1276 I’m pretty sure he was joking. If he’s starting an oil refining business after watching a RUclips video then he’s going to fail nearly immediately. There is a 1000 other components that go into running a business of that magnitude.
Came here after watching Fear the walking dead. I was interested to see if it was possible to actually make gss the way they showed and sure enough...it is! Priceless info
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I am interested in making a pyrolyzer to turn plastic back to oil, but I don't know enough to trust the final product.
you just have to distill it properly (search for the term crossflow distillation) then use some chemicals to reduce the sulfur content, after that you add an octan booster (in case of gasoline) or a cetane booster (in case of diesel) . and make sure not to distill halogenated plastics like PVC (it´ll create chlorine gas) and polystyrene (styrofoam) as this will make the fuel polymerize and you´ll end up with jello fuel
I work in the bakken oilfield up in ND, if we could just refined the bakken oil ourselves and stop exporting it America could last a few hundred years on just the bakken field itself, plus the oil comes out of the ground half ways refined already, so refining it would be much cleaner and quicker then typical crude, plus it would drop the price we pay for just about everything by a lot, I'd rather us refine it ourselves because we can do it cleaner than anywhere else on the globe, and it'd make us self efficient then spend the extra money we'd save on working on new energy sources
Very informative. Is there a reason that Diesel has become more expensive than gasoline? I know that government's have been adding harsher carbon taxes, but I'm just curious if there's an infrastructure or refining reason. All my life diesel has been significantly cheaper than gas up until the last few years.
If still interested, I've researched why diesel became more expensive then gasoline. Several reasons combined: - The shift to more costly ultra-low sulfur diesel in 2006 - At refineries, diesel has to compete with similar products like jet fuel (whose demand has gone way up) & kerosene, plus heating oil in the winter - Higher demand, especially globally (Europe for example sells TONS of diesel passenger cars) - Higher taxes FWIW it makes sense to me that it _should_ cost more, purely from an energy density standpoint: Ounce-for-ounce, diesel makes more power than gasoline.
very cool video, great explanation of distillation and demo perfectly clear, one interesting thing might be how much energy was put into the system via heating element, and how much energy does the fuel potentially have when used at 100% efficiency (if that were possible). And what is in the left over oil in the flask?
I've always wondered what this process looked like and now i know, thanks a lot for sharing it with us! I am curious however what the later stages of crude oil distillation looks like. For example the thicker, more plastic like compounds or the very thick and tar like stages of oil
Dear Professor Pentane, thank you for this knowledge you share, I'm converting plastics to fuel in my own reactor and also going true the pyrolysis. Mow if you happen to know what's the percentage mix for example 99.9 percent alcohol mix with the gas to make a car run normal or for example ca you mis your diesel fuel with the gasoline to make a car run normally? Thank you again John-Luc Toronto Canada
Trust me they wont, he said beaker when its actually a flask, im not saying hes wrong but it was a simple mistake , and im just a chem minor so the little thing get me lol
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I saw old tires distilled into gasoline , it was filtered afterwards and ran in a engine it looked more lihe kerosene to me but it worked . Im looking to make my own fuel for off-grid power generation. Only about 5 gallons per batch. And carbohydrates to ethanol will bring trouble especially at that volume. I thought about methanol. And possibly seeing what is possible from the wood oil (crude oil from wood) see if it can be broken unto thinner more useful fuels. Maybe the distilled rubber mixed with methanol from wood would make a decent fuel. Anything frim 85-95 octane should be ok for my use maybe less i can always mist water or water Methanol/ethanol to help any pre-ignition! And can plastic be broken into a gasoline substitute?
Professor Scott Norman it's actually what's run in older and modern gasoline and 4 stroke and 2 stroke small engines and some bigger ones to. Now some of the newer stuff is designed to be flex fuel engines then yes. It requires octane boosters and ethanol alcohol blended into your gasoline fuels. If you have one od those pot metal gasoline fuel tanks and carburetor's on your machine., or equipment then you use ethanol free fuel in those small engines that doesn't have plastic carburetor's mounted on top of those fuel tanks that are designed for that type of gasoline fuels like E-85.,or E-10 blended gasoline fuels.
Yes though you'd need to run higher temps and re Run the distillate a couple times to destroy the polymer chains. Or you could crack the chains with Hydro treatment where you pass the distillation gas together with hydrogen through a catalyst
Refinery of the crude oil in the Refinery pump hidrogen to the crude and that is just add water to the crude distilled by product. And also the heat destination work faster under - vaccun depressurized container vaccun seal .
The hydrogen is used to crack the polymer chains to get a higher yield otherweise you would be left with much more paraffines. they not only use vacuum but a crossflow distillation process to reduce energy needs
I have a small well drilled in 1895 in Notheren WV and use it for house gas and sell about 100 bbls of oil per year. Now I'm retired I want to try to see what I can get out of this oil. It is a light Pa crude with a little paraffin. I'd like to see it it can be used for house and shop heating. Any suggestions for further reading?
Can motor oil be cracked into a ighter oil? By heating without o2 and possibly under pressure? And what would happen if used oils was placed into a 2" pipe 4"long and sealed up filled 80% and heated to nearly 1000°f i know eventually it will be a bomb. But I'm interested in what happens to the oil? Is it broken into shorter chain molecules? That can then be distilled out ?
As you collect all drips in that bottle and don't separate each bottle but just keep the drips all in one bottle would you see it separate on its own after time?
I have a ranch in New Mexico. I am converting one of my old trucks to syngas from a wood gasifier. A byproduct is biocrude. (something I want to maximize the production of in my design. It only makes the syngas cleaner). What am I likely to get from distillation? "Mr. Teslonian" videos got me curious. Waste not want not
Hi prof great video, I want to extract petrol and diesel from plastic waste, is it possible by applying your distillation technique of collecting at different temperatures and will I be able to run an engine on either?
@@jamesdowis23461. Filter the particulates 2. React cooking oil with methanol/Ethanol and sodium or potassium Hydroxide Cook for x hours (depends on batch size) @ 100°C. 3. Decant glycerol layer. 4. Wash biodiesel with water (to neutralize Base) 5. Add drying Agent auch as dry Magnesium sulfate, silica gel, or 3A molecular sieves, to get rid of washing water. 6. Filter the biodiesel to get rid of drying agent 7. enjoy your diesel
Yes but this needs to be done without oxygen being present (pyrolisis) and don't use PVC or other halogenated plastics as they produce toxic fumes which are also corrosive in case of PVC it would create chlorine gas
Hi James, I have not tried running kerosene in a modern gasoline vehicle, but I do not think it will work as the properties of kerosene is too different than modern 87 octane gasoline. There are older farm tractors and military vehicles that will run multi fuels, but they need to be designed to do so. You can do some research on these type of vehicles to see how they work. Good luck.
Just a curious engineer here , when heating I assume you are extracting the different hydrocarbons and that you can't change the amounts of different hydrocarbon chains. You speak about making different portions of fuels but is that possible ? Aren't you governed by what's in the crude or does the amount of heat temperature mix determine what you get out ?
2 questions: 1) Would this also work for the liquids/vapors obtained from the "gassifier" setups using wood? 2) Would extracting gasoline from diesel created from waste plastics?
No, distillation of gasoline or diesel fuel will not work with gasses from the wood gasifier or waste plastics. The wood gasses are to light and the waste plastics are to heavy. Distillation is just separating out the gasoline and diesel fuel that is all ready in the oil. Since there is no gasoline or diesel fuel molecules in the wood gasses or waste plastic, this process will not work. The gasses straight from the wood gasifier, H2, CO, and CH4 will still run an engine so there is no reason to try to convert those gasses into gasoline. Did this answer your question?
@@ProfessorPentane Thanks for the prompt response. Yes it answers those questions. I'm pretty sure I'll have more questions to follow after this fully settles in and thanks again ;)
@@ProfessorPentane ???? confused..... wood..... yes no petroleum....... waste plastics their most definitely is. Plastic is a petroleum product. The process is called Pyrolysis ruclips.net/video/khqFj2nAB9E/видео.html
@@coachgeo Sorry, I just saw your reply today. Yes, coachgeo is correct. Pyrolysis must be done first before distillation. Distillation by itself will not work.
Towards the end of the video he said the straight run gasoline is close to 30 octane which would explode when compressed. So, no. There's more refining to bring the octane up. Now, maybe if you have a model A 🤔
Wait, I didn’t get what temperature you heat the crude oil for straight run gasoline? I understand it was 500 degrees Fahrenheit but then you were talking about how the temperature needed to be 90-220 degrees Fahrenheit.
The best gasoline is distilled between 90 to 220 Degrees F. Above 220 degrees is heavy gasoline (Naphtha) and has more BTU's per gallon, but not a better gasoline.
Hello Noah, distillations would NOT work with wood gas. Pyrolysis will produce Co, CH4, and H2 gasses which is lighter than gasoline. These gasses would have to go through more "refinery" process to make longer Hydrocarbon chains for Gasoline. We ran a small engine on wood gas a few years ago, check out the video here: ruclips.net/video/Z9dRY8O3IFA/видео.html. Thanks for watching, Professor Pentane
If you only wanted gasoline, would you be able to keep the temperature at the given rate to give more gasoline? Rather than getting it too hot making diesel? If so how much do you think you can get? Of course taking the warm up in consideration.
I'm not 100% on this but I think the other answer you got is right, there is only a certain percentage of the crude that can be made into gas, however if you heat it up to quickly, you may blow right past the temperature and then have lost time for separation of the gas and diesel and contaminate either.
Hi Steve, a short answer is NO, you can not distill your waster motor oil to make gasoline or diesel fuel. Folks on the internet is making "Black Diesel" out of their waste motor oil as an home-made diesel fuel. I have not tried this out yet so you will need to look at other sources for more information about waste motor oil as a diesel fuel. Thanks for watching.
Feedback: You indicated the F/C when discussing the weather but throughout your lecture you didn't mention whether any indicated temperature was in celcius or fahrenheit.
Either that or a jump at the thermometer where the hot gases pass over. each jump indicates a new fraction azeotropes however behave differently and should be taken into account
with the use of the right catalysts e.g ruthenium and carbon one can lower the energy input and obtain larger amount of fuels making the process economically viable. for the 200ml he got he probably used 70ml to fuel the process. the pyrolysis gas can be rerouted back to the reactor to further increase efficiency
I never understood this in school and now I see it's just heat the oil until all the product has come off for that range then increase the temperature.
Or you blast from the beginning with high temperature as the boiling Point of the mixture always will be that of the lowest fraction, that's due to latent heat
@@gelias1276 no. Lol. If its different explain. Lol. Dont really care enough to look at Google. If you don't want to explain. Then ILL keep thinks its like JP.
@@baddog9320 I do care to explain. The different products we get from atmospheric fractional distillation are called cuts. Each cut is a mix of hydrocarbons which have the same range of boiling points (the temperature at which they start boiling). I'm not aware of what JP fuels' numbers refer to, I guess it's related to the "version" of the fuel. As for the number of carbon atoms "C", it's also a representation of hydrocarbons which have the same range of carbon atoms, which in turn compose a cut. After retrieving every cut from the distillation tower, they go through further "enhancement" processes after becoming final products, like JP's. I hope this helps.
Of course it can be done just watch Out for the additives some even act as a catalyst to improve yield e.g. Molybdenum sulfide (lubricant) some May distill over so you'd need to pass It through activated charcoal
So does a higher octane rating in gasoline actually mean less explosive than straight run? If so I've always had a false assumption that 110 octane would be more explosive than 87 octane....??
Yes, you are correct. Higher octane fuel is harder to ignite, more pressure/heat is needed. If someone is running 91 octane in a normal low-compression vehicle, it could lead to hard starting when cold.
@@ProfessorPentane thanks! Really cool presentation. I'm 33 and you just taught me something that just had never clicked before. I knew the stoichiometry of gasoline should be 14.7 to 1 but is that based on straight run gasoline only at 30% octane? Different octane rates are obviously going to affect that metric.
@@ahunt just FYI from a Fuel's Nerd that the octane level of the fuel is not the biggest effect of the Air/Fuel ratio. See my videos in the "Lessons on Fuel Chemistry" playlist on how to calculate stoichiometric ratios of fuel. Enjoy!
Hi professor. It's surprising how difficult it can be to find this information elsewhere on the internet. Great presentation! I have a question that seems just beyond my grasp, but a profound question given a new movement away from fossil-fuels for mobility. If you could help me, I think we can bring to light a big misunderstanding about the advantages of this new movement. When you distill the crude in this experiment, an electric heater is used. WHY NOT add a watt meter on the heater to determine how much electricity is used to complete the distillation process. My thesis is that there is gasoline from crude that enables mobility in ICE vehicles, however the refining process expends about as much energy as could be traveled in an EV from the heating process alone. The disadvantages are then compounded by having to transport the gasoline and make up for any spillages or inefficiencies before it even gets to be used. Perhaps we could simply save the oil and use it for OTHER THINGS if we only decide to make use of the energy it takes to bring it to boil and move the fluid from one place to another. It's like getting the byproduct of the oil without having to handle it or refine it ... See? Much more direct and efficient. Somewhere I saw an amateur determine that a drum of oil brought to boil uses about as much energy as it takes to drive an EV 600 miles, and that is pretty close to how far you can expect to go in an ICE car with the resulting byproduct. Working under the assumption that they distill crude by using the oil or kerosene as fuel (rather than electric heater) brings to light why there is about an 18% defecit of oil byproduct from distillation compared to crude supplied www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/PET_CONS_PSUP_DC_NUS_MBBLPD_A.htm After all it is not scientific to think that 18% of anything just "disappears"... it has to be USED SOMEHOW to not be left at the end of the process. I think it is used in the heating part of the process. Correct me if I'm wrong. - 19,890 million gallons divided by 16,294 is 0.82 (82 %) I look forward to your insight and if you have ever let your mind wander down this path before.... Thanks, Trent
I doubt it, as the lubricating oils are produced at a higher temperature (see chart in the early part of video) so the volatility of the diesel is already gone.
Hi Harry, This gasoline we made will "flash" or flame at room temp and the diesel will not. I have not tested the "flash point" of the diesel fuel we made, maybe we will do this next semester in class. Thanks for watching Professor Pentane.
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Out of all the videos I have watched about how refineries work, this is the only one that I’ve watched that actually helped me to understand it. Thank you for this awesome video!
It is that simple you can even do it with plastics
This is the most entertaining piece of media I’ve seen all week
Fascinating. While today's refineries are obviously much more involved, I assumed the early process for refining oil into kerosene, etc was more complicated. Who knew it was just distillation? Thank you.
Wonderful to be able to see what these processes that you read about actually look like!
This was great! I'm starting an oil drilling refining company now after watching this. The EV thing is a scam, there's not enough power generation for that nonsense.
not too loud.elon musk will hear you.
It would be awesome to share your progress, looking forward to hearing from you!
It would be easier to buy some property with some old wells on it. Just don't get to aggressive on those old wells. Just make sure you get mineral rights and lease rights.
@@gelias1276 I’m pretty sure he was joking. If he’s starting an oil refining business after watching a RUclips video then he’s going to fail nearly immediately. There is a 1000 other components that go into running a business of that magnitude.
Go you!
He looks very excited to be around crude oil. I want to take his class now so i can have that level of excitement with oil
Haha, Love the homemade condenser tube/tank, I ended up buying a Borosilicate Glass kit to make my Benzene.
Wow!!! You made it look so easy such that anyone can distill fuel/diesel from crude oil. Thank u🙏
I guess we better get to start learning how to make your own diesel and fuel At home off grid oil refinery kits
Thanks professor. I appreciate the time it took to make this.
Very fascinating!! Thanks for the class on oil refining!
muito obrigado! Uma dúvida grande esclarecida e que esteve comigo por décadas. Precisamos professores como você aqui em Moçambique
Came here after watching Fear the walking dead. I was interested to see if it was possible to actually make gss the way they showed and sure enough...it is! Priceless info
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I am interested in making a pyrolyzer to turn plastic back to oil, but I don't know enough to trust the final product.
You got that mad scientist vibe my friend
you just have to distill it properly (search for the term crossflow distillation) then use some chemicals to reduce the sulfur content, after that you add an octan booster (in case of gasoline) or a cetane booster (in case of diesel) . and make sure not to distill halogenated plastics like PVC (it´ll create chlorine gas) and polystyrene (styrofoam) as this will make the fuel polymerize and you´ll end up with jello fuel
For you to post something like this on youtube for people to have free access to is fucking awesome, tysm
Thank you for the demo, best I've seen yet.
I work in the bakken oilfield up in ND, if we could just refined the bakken oil ourselves and stop exporting it America could last a few hundred years on just the bakken field itself, plus the oil comes out of the ground half ways refined already, so refining it would be much cleaner and quicker then typical crude, plus it would drop the price we pay for just about everything by a lot, I'd rather us refine it ourselves because we can do it cleaner than anywhere else on the globe, and it'd make us self efficient then spend the extra money we'd save on working on new energy sources
That's the dilemma of many states in the western US, isn't it? Lots of energy, no one to use it. We have to "export" it to other states.
Thank you for the informative video, I will go start drilling for some crude oil in my back yard now.
Dr Steve Brule's brother? 😂 cool vid dude.
Good introductory video to this topic. You answered questions I didn't know I had yet.
Very well done. Really informative 👏
Excellent information. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks. Been exploring this path for a while and soon taking plunge fully. Sent you email thru Pitt-State Univ. Directory.
Very informative. Is there a reason that Diesel has become more expensive than gasoline? I know that government's have been adding harsher carbon taxes, but I'm just curious if there's an infrastructure or refining reason. All my life diesel has been significantly cheaper than gas up until the last few years.
If still interested, I've researched why diesel became more expensive then gasoline. Several reasons combined:
- The shift to more costly ultra-low sulfur diesel in 2006
- At refineries, diesel has to compete with similar products like jet fuel (whose demand has gone way up) & kerosene, plus heating oil in the winter
- Higher demand, especially globally (Europe for example sells TONS of diesel passenger cars)
- Higher taxes
FWIW it makes sense to me that it _should_ cost more, purely from an energy density standpoint: Ounce-for-ounce, diesel makes more power than gasoline.
Really nice 🤗 I'm learning something new 🤗🤞
I love your class ❤, thank you ❤️
very cool video, great explanation of distillation and demo perfectly clear, one interesting thing might be how much energy was put into the system via heating element, and how much energy does the fuel potentially have when used at 100% efficiency (if that were possible).
And what is in the left over oil in the flask?
I've always wondered what this process looked like and now i know, thanks a lot for sharing it with us!
I am curious however what the later stages of crude oil distillation looks like. For example the thicker, more plastic like compounds or the very thick and tar like stages of oil
This is good knowledge to have when the apocalypse happens
Dear Professor Pentane, thank you for this knowledge you share, I'm converting plastics to fuel in my own reactor and also going true the pyrolysis. Mow if you happen to know what's the percentage mix for example 99.9 percent alcohol mix with the gas to make a car run normal or for example ca you mis your diesel fuel with the gasoline to make a car run normally? Thank you again John-Luc Toronto Canada
Same brother did you find anything out?
This is so helpful thank you very much
My dumbass would think everyone is planning a birthday party for me 💀
this was great, I really learned a lot. I am trying to learn about alternative fuels I can make in the amazon jungle
The US military is about to invade your classroom my guy
Trust me they wont, he said beaker when its actually a flask, im not saying hes wrong but it was a simple mistake , and im just a chem minor so the little thing get me lol
Abysrael Sathros: he's not harnessing Sonol-umines-ence with the golden ratio so he's probably not a threat
Only When the U.N.Agenda-Left/DNC-Dems/RINOS/traitors finish replacing Americans in the U.S.Military with Deviants, Socialists/Marxists/illegals/Anti-FA trash/etc…. Until then, it’s ok…
But it’s Not long off, sadly..😐
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@c_castillo NickRyanBayon is talking about merely having crude oil is enough pretext to get invaded by the United States
Why do I feel like i'm watching doctor Steve Brule make gasoline?? Close your eyes and just listen to his voice.
Ya Dingus! Check it out!!!
Automotive technology. Now that sounds inteesting man.
I saw old tires distilled into gasoline , it was filtered afterwards and ran in a engine it looked more lihe kerosene to me but it worked . Im looking to make my own fuel for off-grid power generation. Only about 5 gallons per batch. And carbohydrates to ethanol will bring trouble especially at that volume. I thought about methanol. And possibly seeing what is possible from the wood oil (crude oil from wood) see if it can be broken unto thinner more useful fuels. Maybe the distilled rubber mixed with methanol from wood would make a decent fuel. Anything frim 85-95 octane should be ok for my use maybe less i can always mist water or water Methanol/ethanol to help any pre-ignition! And can plastic be broken into a gasoline substitute?
Professor Scott Norman it's actually what's run in older and modern gasoline and 4 stroke and 2 stroke small engines and some bigger ones to. Now some of the newer stuff is designed to be flex fuel engines then yes. It requires octane boosters and ethanol alcohol blended into your gasoline fuels. If you have one od those pot metal gasoline fuel tanks and carburetor's on your machine., or equipment then you use ethanol free fuel in those small engines that doesn't have plastic carburetor's mounted on top of those fuel tanks that are designed for that type of gasoline fuels like E-85.,or E-10 blended gasoline fuels.
May you please demonstrate how they use Catalytic cracking
Hello professor! Is this the same set up for the distillation of pyrolisis oil from polymers? Would like to make things clear for me.
Yes though you'd need to run higher temps and re Run the distillate a couple times to destroy the polymer chains. Or you could crack the chains with Hydro treatment where you pass the distillation gas together with hydrogen through a catalyst
Interesting video. I see you but I hear John c Reiley lol
Refinery of the crude oil in the Refinery pump hidrogen to the crude and that is just add water to the crude distilled by product. And also the heat destination work faster under - vaccun depressurized container vaccun seal .
The hydrogen is used to crack the polymer chains to get a higher yield otherweise you would be left with much more paraffines. they not only use vacuum but a crossflow distillation process to reduce energy needs
Perfect, with knowledge I will travel to Texas during the apocalypse and create a diesel fuel empire to rule the wastes
I have a small well drilled in 1895 in Notheren WV and use it for house gas and sell about 100 bbls of oil per year. Now I'm retired I want to try to see what I can get out of this oil. It is a light Pa crude with a little paraffin. I'd like to see it it can be used for house and shop heating. Any suggestions for further reading?
Can motor oil be cracked into a ighter oil? By heating without o2 and possibly under pressure? And what would happen if used oils was placed into a 2" pipe 4"long and sealed up filled 80% and heated to nearly 1000°f i know eventually it will be a bomb. But I'm interested in what happens to the oil? Is it broken into shorter chain molecules? That can then be distilled out ?
As you collect all drips in that bottle and don't separate each bottle but just keep the drips all in one bottle would you see it separate on its own after time?
No as they are all hydrocarbons and would be all miscible with each other, even though they have different densities
I have a ranch in New Mexico. I am converting one of my old trucks to syngas from a wood gasifier. A byproduct is biocrude. (something I want to maximize the production of in my design. It only makes the syngas cleaner). What am I likely to get from distillation? "Mr. Teslonian" videos got me curious. Waste not want not
Hi prof great video, I want to extract petrol and diesel from plastic waste, is it possible by applying your distillation technique of collecting at different temperatures and will I be able to run an engine on either?
check out mr teslonian
I know a guy who gets the used cooking oil from the restaurants in hays and runs his pickup on them. Not sure what he does to it though.
@@blackbeard9436 thank you
@@jamesdowis23461. Filter the particulates 2. React cooking oil with methanol/Ethanol and sodium or potassium Hydroxide Cook for x hours (depends on batch size) @ 100°C. 3. Decant glycerol layer. 4. Wash biodiesel with water (to neutralize Base) 5. Add drying Agent auch as dry Magnesium sulfate, silica gel, or 3A molecular sieves, to get rid of washing water. 6. Filter the biodiesel to get rid of drying agent 7. enjoy your diesel
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You should send your samples over to project farms channel
I was digging a hole to China since I was a young boy, now I am after that black gold, texas tea baby!
Damn wish you were my professor
It looks like the diesel recovered was less than half the raw material?
This should be standard in ever high school
Thank you! Does it work similarly if you convert plastic into diesel?
Yes but this needs to be done without oxygen being present (pyrolisis) and don't use PVC or other halogenated plastics as they produce toxic fumes which are also corrosive in case of PVC it would create chlorine gas
Great video. So would lite kerosene run in a modern gas car? Just curious. Probably wouldnt take long to plug up the Cadillac converter
Hi James, I have not tried running kerosene in a modern gasoline vehicle, but I do not think it will work as the properties of kerosene is too different than modern 87 octane gasoline. There are older farm tractors and military vehicles that will run multi fuels, but they need to be designed to do so. You can do some research on these type of vehicles to see how they work. Good luck.
Just a curious engineer here , when heating I assume you are extracting the different hydrocarbons and that you can't change the amounts of different hydrocarbon chains. You speak about making different portions of fuels but is that possible ? Aren't you governed by what's in the crude or does the amount of heat temperature mix determine what you get out ?
Dr. Steve Brule with another informative video. If you enjoyed this one, check out some of his other youtube videos. CHECK IT OUT!
...and here we have the most "burnt" example to demonstrate the simplicity of crude oil distillation.
Just finished video, thanks
Dear Professor, what would be GCV of this product made of plastic? I have several vedios, but no one is describing GCV. Please advise me..
Try that with a 70 + gravity crude oil. The stuff you got is probably 30ish. Of course that would be Jet fuel at that weight.
2 questions:
1) Would this also work for the liquids/vapors obtained from the "gassifier" setups using wood?
2) Would extracting gasoline from diesel created from waste plastics?
No, distillation of gasoline or diesel fuel will not work with gasses from the wood gasifier or waste plastics. The wood gasses are to light and the waste plastics are to heavy. Distillation is just separating out the gasoline and diesel fuel that is all ready in the oil. Since there is no gasoline or diesel fuel molecules in the wood gasses or waste plastic, this process will not work. The gasses straight from the wood gasifier, H2, CO, and CH4 will still run an engine so there is no reason to try to convert those gasses into gasoline. Did this answer your question?
@@ProfessorPentane Thanks for the prompt response. Yes it answers those questions. I'm pretty sure I'll have more questions to follow after this fully settles in and thanks again ;)
@@ProfessorPentane ???? confused..... wood..... yes no petroleum....... waste plastics their most definitely is. Plastic is a petroleum product. The process is called Pyrolysis
ruclips.net/video/khqFj2nAB9E/видео.html
@@coachgeo Sorry, I just saw your reply today. Yes, coachgeo is correct. Pyrolysis must be done first before distillation. Distillation by itself will not work.
So after pyrolises you get bio crude oil from the condensed wood. Then its possible to distill the bio crude oil to diesel and gasoline?
Can you use it in your car or is there more steps
Towards the end of the video he said the straight run gasoline is close to 30 octane which would explode when compressed. So, no. There's more refining to bring the octane up. Now, maybe if you have a model A 🤔
This is the real life “Brules Rules” guy
Wait, I didn’t get what temperature you heat the crude oil for straight run gasoline?
I understand it was 500 degrees Fahrenheit but then you were talking about how the temperature needed to be 90-220 degrees Fahrenheit.
The best gasoline is distilled between 90 to 220 Degrees F. Above 220 degrees is heavy gasoline (Naphtha) and has more BTU's per gallon, but not a better gasoline.
Will this same process work on crude oil made from pyrolysis? Specifically wood pyrolysis.
Hello Noah, distillations would NOT work with wood gas. Pyrolysis will produce Co, CH4, and H2 gasses which is lighter than gasoline. These gasses would have to go through more "refinery" process to make longer Hydrocarbon chains for Gasoline. We ran a small engine on wood gas a few years ago, check out the video here: ruclips.net/video/Z9dRY8O3IFA/видео.html.
Thanks for watching, Professor Pentane
If you only wanted gasoline, would you be able to keep the temperature at the given rate to give more gasoline? Rather than getting it too hot making diesel? If so how much do you think you can get? Of course taking the warm up in consideration.
No you would still only get a certain percentage of each fuel from said amount of crude oil
I'm not 100% on this but I think the other answer you got is right, there is only a certain percentage of the crude that can be made into gas, however if you heat it up to quickly, you may blow right past the temperature and then have lost time for separation of the gas and diesel and contaminate either.
Prof can this system/process be used on waste motor oil (wmo) to achieve a similar result?.. looking forward for your reply.
Hi Steve, a short answer is NO, you can not distill your waster motor oil to make gasoline or diesel fuel. Folks on the internet is making "Black Diesel" out of their waste motor oil as an home-made diesel fuel. I have not tried this out yet so you will need to look at other sources for more information about waste motor oil as a diesel fuel. Thanks for watching.
If you can extract more diesel fuel out than gasoline, why is diesel more expensive to purchase.
Essentially its no because you already took out the fuel to make it motor oil is that correct
@@benkentch4217 you pay more for diesel because its more energy per gallon of fuel its more energy
@@StoicAnarchy is that because it requires more energy to get to the right temperature to extract the diesel fuel
Excellent
thanks from france
Feedback: You indicated the F/C when discussing the weather but throughout your lecture you didn't mention whether any indicated temperature was in celcius or fahrenheit.
It was all in farienheight in his video. Even his scale showed that.
Have you tried thermal cracking in the lab?
Does the same degree ratio work for turning plastic to diesel fuel ⛽️
Adding a thin oil to this gas will raise the octane of gasoline so you can run it in a engine .
Please make a video about how to make biodiesel at home
So if you plotted drip frequency with temperature we should see humps where particular chains are most abundant ?
Either that or a jump at the thermometer where the hot gases pass over. each jump indicates a new fraction azeotropes however behave differently and should be taken into account
How is he fitting the glass to the pipe?
The other question I have is the energy required to heat and cool the products versus how much burn energy is contained in the 200ml
with the use of the right catalysts e.g ruthenium and carbon one can lower the energy input and obtain larger amount of fuels making the process economically viable. for the 200ml he got he probably used 70ml to fuel the process. the pyrolysis gas can be rerouted back to the reactor to further increase efficiency
Is it possible to speed up the process by adding vacuum but being able to lower the overall temp of the oil?
Yes but you would need better cooling as the condensation temperature also gets lower. Heidolph suggests for petroleum spirits 50°C at 250mbar vacuum
I never understood this in school and now I see it's just heat the oil until all the product has come off for that range then increase the temperature.
Or you blast from the beginning with high temperature as the boiling Point of the mixture always will be that of the lowest fraction, that's due to latent heat
what can i put on crude oil to make it look like degreaser
Sweet
Ok. So in the army we had JP-#
I am assuming JP is the same as C.
So JP-8 would be C-8.
I don't remember all the JPs But I remember JP-8 was one.
Jet Propellants, not exactly the same as C, you can Google it for more info..
@@gelias1276 no. Lol.
If its different explain.
Lol. Dont really care enough to look at Google.
If you don't want to explain. Then ILL keep thinks its like JP.
@@baddog9320 I do care to explain.
The different products we get from atmospheric fractional distillation are called cuts. Each cut is a mix of hydrocarbons which have the same range of boiling points (the temperature at which they start boiling). I'm not aware of what JP fuels' numbers refer to, I guess it's related to the "version" of the fuel. As for the number of carbon atoms "C", it's also a representation of hydrocarbons which have the same range of carbon atoms, which in turn compose a cut. After retrieving every cut from the distillation tower, they go through further "enhancement" processes after becoming final products, like JP's. I hope this helps.
Can you show how make straight gasoline into 87 octane?
This is the most refined white beard I have seen
very cool
Can you do this same process with waste oils such as engine oil, trans fluid, gear case oil etc...?
This is my question as well.
Of course it can be done just watch Out for the additives some even act as a catalyst to improve yield e.g. Molybdenum sulfide (lubricant) some May distill over so you'd need to pass It through activated charcoal
So does a higher octane rating in gasoline actually mean less explosive than straight run? If so I've always had a false assumption that 110 octane would be more explosive than 87 octane....??
Yes, you are correct. Higher octane fuel is harder to ignite, more pressure/heat is needed. If someone is running 91 octane in a normal low-compression vehicle, it could lead to hard starting when cold.
@@ProfessorPentane thanks! Really cool presentation. I'm 33 and you just taught me something that just had never clicked before. I knew the stoichiometry of gasoline should be 14.7 to 1 but is that based on straight run gasoline only at 30% octane? Different octane rates are obviously going to affect that metric.
@@ahunt just FYI from a Fuel's Nerd that the octane level of the fuel is not the biggest effect of the Air/Fuel ratio. See my videos in the "Lessons on Fuel Chemistry" playlist on how to calculate stoichiometric ratios of fuel. Enjoy!
Scott, is that Ken Gordon's Still?
HI Tim, Yes, Ken is doing good and I see him 4 or 5 times a year as he still lives close to Pittsburg.
Hi professor. It's surprising how difficult it can be to find this information elsewhere on the internet. Great presentation!
I have a question that seems just beyond my grasp, but a profound question given a new movement away from fossil-fuels for mobility. If you could help me, I think we can bring to light a big misunderstanding about the advantages of this new movement.
When you distill the crude in this experiment, an electric heater is used. WHY NOT add a watt meter on the heater to determine how much electricity is used to complete the distillation process. My thesis is that there is gasoline from crude that enables mobility in ICE vehicles, however the refining process expends about as much energy as could be traveled in an EV from the heating process alone.
The disadvantages are then compounded by having to transport the gasoline and make up for any spillages or inefficiencies before it even gets to be used.
Perhaps we could simply save the oil and use it for OTHER THINGS if we only decide to make use of the energy it takes to bring it to boil and move the fluid from one place to another. It's like getting the byproduct of the oil without having to handle it or refine it ... See? Much more direct and efficient.
Somewhere I saw an amateur determine that a drum of oil brought to boil uses about as much energy as it takes to drive an EV 600 miles, and that is pretty close to how far you can expect to go in an ICE car with the resulting byproduct.
Working under the assumption that they distill crude by using the oil or kerosene as fuel (rather than electric heater) brings to light why there is about an 18% defecit of oil byproduct from distillation compared to crude supplied www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/PET_CONS_PSUP_DC_NUS_MBBLPD_A.htm
After all it is not scientific to think that 18% of anything just "disappears"... it has to be USED SOMEHOW to not be left at the end of the process. I think it is used in the heating part of the process. Correct me if I'm wrong. - 19,890 million gallons divided by 16,294 is 0.82 (82 %)
I look forward to your insight and if you have ever let your mind wander down this path before....
Thanks,
Trent
John C. Reilly is starting to get really into method acting.
What about the leftover?
Can you the same process with used motor oil and get diesel from it?
I doubt it, as the lubricating oils are produced at a higher temperature (see chart in the early part of video) so the volatility of the diesel is already gone.
Where can I get crude oil?
awsome
thx for the information prf.pentane and i need to now alot about it .i want to gate your gamil or whats up
Why only 40% of oil barrel turns into gasoline can we produce more then that ?????
You should try a flame test
Hi Harry, This gasoline we made will "flash" or flame at room temp and the diesel will not. I have not tested the "flash point" of the diesel fuel we made, maybe we will do this next semester in class. Thanks for watching Professor Pentane.
Can i take your classes online?