Tussle over LS Speaker & dy speaker underlines new coalition era, fraying of strongman model
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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As India returns to the coalition era, the opposition has geared up to make demands in the Lok Sabha starting day 2 with a tussle over the speaker's position. In Episode 1474 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta takes you through the historical significance of the position, the people who held it, and the high stakes of choosing one.
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Print must have an episode on Kllakurichi death of 60 people in Tamil Nadu
Stop crying.
Are you kidding?😂
Very little coverage in national media,today 62 opposition MLA's were expelled en masse from TN assembly. No national media coverd it
They do
Yes combine it with the death of 57 people in Gujarat last year because of same reason. Nobody debated on that issue either
Owaisi did not forget to say jai hind Mr Gupta. He did it on purpose. You are literally covering for him.
Owaisi's inclination is once again exposed!
WHAT INCLINATION??? GOVERNMENT OF INDIA HAS SENT AIDS TO PALESTINE DURING THIS WAR, NOT TO ISRAEL. INDIA STANDS WITH PALESTINE & INDIA STANDS WITH PALESTINE. ANDH BHAKTI SE BAHAR NIKLO AUR PALESTINE ME JO HOLOCAUST HO RAHA HAI, USKO DEKHO, JAISE MODI NE DEKH KE PALESTINE KO SUPPORT BHEJA HAI.
He has rights to speak what he wants nothing wrong in it if it was ask your paw paw to suspend him or jail him
@@SauravSingh-mg4cmOk Abdul using fake account
@@Godzillamonstrosityit is a cheap argument to label him as a fake account rather doing your research and give a counter narrative.
@@Godzillamonstrosityit is a cheap argument to label him as a fake account rather doing your research and give a counter narrative.
The powers of speaker in a parliament, well explained SG 👏
As much as you might detest the arrogance that has crept into the supreme leader and his party, taking oath in Indian Parliament after swearing allegiance to Palestine cannot be legally allowed to stand. He should be sworn in again after paying obeisance to India, the country where he physically resides and whose voters have elected him irrespective of where his heart and loyalty lies. This is the least he can do for this nation.
He has already been so much help to Mr. Modi that I am sure he will do whatever Mr. Modi tells him to do.
What do you mean? India do have support Palestine cause and they are for two state solution.
India supports the Palestine cause. Even the Modi government does this.
So what is the problem in hailing the friendly government or country?
He took oath in India parliament, on Indian constitution and hence he is hailing India by default.
@@BharatThatIsIndiaWe don't support any cause. We support existence of Israel as much as we support existence of Israel. It is people in Palestine, who have become Hamas-ified, and reject Israel.
@@rajx7120 Achchha. When people don't have knowledge of history, if they don't have anything to do with facts, they talk like this.
It's not your fault.
Lets assume, HAMAS is the reason.
Then what about the West Bank? What about before HAMAS?
What about accords with Yasir Arafat?
Do you even know that Netanyahu funded HAMAS?
I only hope the opposition behaves like a true opposition, indulging in meaningful debate instead of walking out every now and then or getting suspended. You have now shown the world you have 'protected' democracy in the country, now show that you are its worthy worshippers by behaving well in Parliament, the temple of democracy. The World needs to see this also.
Nothing will be complicated Shekhar Gupta. Like lok sabha elections all bills will be passed same way. If at all anyone who needs spice is you who wanted INDI coalition spice.
Shekhar Gupta loudly silent about the "Jai Shree Rams" hurled at Owaisi. That was utterly unacceptable.
Is Jai Palestine more acceptable?
According to a jihadi like u jai Sri Ram is bad but jai Palestine is ok...why the hell you living in our country better live your native cou try Palestine..
If a leader is decisive, he/she would be called a dictator. If a leader is accommodative, he/she would be called indecisive. You cannot please everyone.
Is it not better to have a decisive leader who may be deeply disliked by some but is good for the nation?
For some 'spice', is it fair to make decision-making difficult?
Yes. Decision making is meant to be inclusive of and representative for the entire citizenry and not "easy".
That's simply what democracy means.
Those who can't digest such egalitarian complexity are better off packing their bags and moving to some primitive monarchy where they can fully enjoy their master-slave fantasies and have some big daddy come and trample upon their freedoms.
Accommodating not accommodative. This is the issue with andhbakts - they know little but pontificate much.
NDA 1 330
NDA 2 350
NDA 3 300
Its not like heavens have fallen
Media is creating hype
Difference is in 240 and 303...
@@SouthCartman-vy7mw good for stats . Floor and bill Voting happens as coalition plus outside support . 300 votes would be scored regularly on any bill . Sit back and see
@@oldngolddays6177if you think the TDP will pass anything just like that while it depends on minority votes….youre wrong
The pretence of being centre is gone from Mr.Gupta. Fully committed now.
Eliminates dependance on viewer subscription.
One dont need to be centeral,... they just need to fight for truth. It doesn't matter whether it is right, left, central or anything else
Like you
@@bonaku20ya gupta can also fight for truth in 40 deaths in Tamilnadu. Why he is not interested in this?
@@nandakishorekomandur480 Were you agitated when 57 people died because of poisonous liquor in Gujarat last year? Did you ask Gujarat CM and Modi any questions? Lol
What about dy speaker position in opposition ruled states. Have they followed the convention?
You are comparing state assemblies with parliament? Really? 😒
IKB should know speaking time is proportional to representation
Spicy means useless?
No. Spicy means Sahebji's tanashahi is not going to sell anymore. Stop seething.
Dear Sekar ji you want good things to follow, or you want spicy and ineffective parliament
For content for CTC - spicy is want SG prefers
What about TDP asking speakers post?????
Why not jdu
Discuss shameless event of Faridkot Punjabi Your channel is giving service to red constitution of India
'Spicy', true, not much difference between Bollywood and politcs
Sir I think you have forgotten about " Leader of Opposition".
The episode was probably filmed a few hours prior to the news.
Who was dy speaker in nehru cabinet
Boring episode- and btw, the CEA was passed by parliament in a matter of minutes without debate on the last day of parliament. And what about the conduct of Hamid Ansari who did NOT allow bills to be passed under the excuse of there being disorder in the house? This episode was largely one sided.
Suresh, why he can not b made LOP. Ahh that's reserved for the exalted family!!!!
Preparing for entertainment (show) rather than substance… why are the media not been condemning this mayhem,in parliament since decades. Is the media , who do not want to be suppressed, playing a constructive role in Nation building? Have they ever? Introspect.
Let us ask for fruitful discussions in parliament. Rather insist. We do not want wishywashy contested politics for drama and the media TRP
Shekar gupta saar also back to taking sides unlike last 10 years a pretence of unbiased
Make your case?
Hmmm suspense
Money to accounts of comrades like you😂from both US state department and chini panda😂
Disgusting to see Shekhar Gupta trying to sugar-coat BJP's brazen immorality and pettiness as "Spicing up" of Parliament.
Never seen a worse sycophant and cheaper propagandist than this man.
Why was the opposition not there ? They were busy eating Samosa and sipping tea in canteen and getting paid for that....
Sekhar gupta is a sic😢k mind - he is happy with parliament hulla-gulla and divided polity - opposition and government should work for the success of the country - not for the success of their parties - each party should propose how to make country better - improve GDP - not just freebies - any body decries the majority in favor minority is a loser.
BJP has been booted into reality period. The chaiwala is back to what he actually is 😂
Power hungry goons
Sekar is a Sonia man.😂
Speaker post was contested in 1967 also. The convention of Dy.speaker going to opposition party is not honored by Congress in lokasabha and in many Congress ruled states. Half truths
the outcome of speaker election is well known, given that there were public reports of TMC, Sharad Pawer expressing disappointment over NOT being consulted by Congress over its choice. So, other than an election for speaker post, that further indicated lack of unity among so called opposition alliance, barely days after election result, what else has it shown or prove that something has changed ? your analysis of fraying strongman model does not hold much water based on we see thus far
Wet dreams of opposition weakness 😂
Dictator
Geo-financial mafia now as an eagle circling above india, using Rahul as a tool in its tool kit.
SG is so biased in highlighting, his deafening silence on what happened, who did not support congress here. ans walkout of RG. Please, we expect some sp8ne from seniors.
Ab maja aa raha hai
Oh! Owaisy forgot to say Jai hind! How much you love Muslims!
@@anilshedbal4206Stop crying. It is not mandatory to say Jay Hind. Shed your religious hatred. It will not give you status.
@@prasanthalphaSo you think it is normal to say some foreign country's name when you are taking oath as an MP of India?
@@noneoftheabove666Is there any law against it?
@@noneoftheabove666 What happened? Did I miss something ?
Democracy is restored as India gets back into too much politics and vote bank appeasement socialism which as always will dampen economic growth and that's what matters in the west. A giant tamed again into petty politics.
All the best India, stay poor.
Sad day for Democracy the Speaker is always on consensus, this government again failed to build consensus...
By opposition
@arunhuddar you partisan people, God... why can't people be just a little bit more intelligent?
It is truly astounding that a member of Indian parliament is so openly flaunting his utter disregard for the nation that has bred, fed, enriched and elevated him to such high office. All other memebers irrespective of party lines should inisist that he take an oath again and formally renounce his oath of loyalty to a foreign country/territory. I wonder if it was a Freudian slip or he is truly that far gone.
BJP was trying to change the Constitution. What are you crying about here.?
@@prasanthalphaAs if Congress never tried. Even BJP can't come closer to what IG did to the constitution.
@@GwyyshsbakIzjsbsbszjzjzjhh lol you guys literally can't respond to a single criticism without mentioning Congress
@@darkspineslayer5614 There was no reason to bring BJP or Constitution either
@@GwyyshsbakIzjsbsbszjzjzjhhyep….the bjp cant even come close….they may be evil but whats the point if you are too much of a weakling
MP who had Been Mock is not From Shivsena He Is From NCP Sarad Pawar Party
shekher is just a reader people think he is some sort of journalist. just a reader someone does the research someone writes the script and he reads. only original stories he has is this boot licking of neetas and he only rants his big stories of dead netas not untill anyone is alive because facts can be challanged.
War rukwa di paw paw
4:05 forget he said haha. Yeah right.
Indian parliament in many cases degenerates into a fish market - an inadequate level of education and inappropriate attitude of a large section of parliamentarians reduces the parliament to a commotion.
Yes. Thai chaiwala with his venomous speeches brings the level further down.
Forgetting "Jai Hind" ?? Is it not intentional?
SG seems to be waiting for reward for loyalty to psuedo secularism in coming years. May be "Padma Bhushan" ?
Possible. He has never criticised the Congress / other opposition parties in any matter even slightly forcefully. Providing cover fire is his won't. Even in the utterly irresponsible EVM allegations by Congress, he brought in Balraj Madhok ( Jan Sangh- 1952 Lok Sabha elections) who alleged that Congress had used special ballot paper in an astounding display of whataboutery and seeking to equate BJP with Congress!
Owaisi,..ko jabab !?...Bharat /Israel Jindabad..Rajakar Tarerist murdabad...
Rajiv Gandhi with 400+ seats had deputy speaker but Modi with 303 seats didn't have that.
Now with 240 seats, he doesn't want to have deputy speaker.
All indications of a insecure person and personality who is small minded.
The position was given to ADMK which was a congress ally. Go read history.
@@prakhartripathi8465 AIDMK was not part of government in parliament in 1984. They don't have any ministry. Read history properly.
In 2014 too, AIDMK had a deputy speaker. They were not the part of the opposition too but at least were not part of the government in Loksabha.
@@BharatThatIsIndia Narendra Modi with 240 seats has beard but Rajiv Gandhi with 400+ seats was clean shaven.
@@BharatThatIsIndia fine bjp will give to akali dal, they are also not in govt🤣🤣🤣
That's evident.. look at what Modi is doing to kejriwal.. it's shocking how CBI and ED are doing everything they can to keep kejriwal in jail.. they wouldn't do this even to a terrorist.. nd even more shocking and tragic that the public are just standing and watching
Meltdown of bhakts in the comments is just👌
Mr.Shekar
Honesty in your journalism will pay you in long term
Dont be a Sanghi
Why Leader of Opposition is Janeudhari, Kaula Dattatreya Gothra Rahul Gandhi rather than 8 time Dalit MP Suresh 😂.
Congress Hypocrisy.
Shekahar Guptaji, you forgot to mention why BJP is so nervous about speaker of LS and Dy.Speaker, , the saga of 13 day governmnet of Vajpayee is unforgettable, the one vote that the congress sprung out and the brazenness of all the situation , its true journalists will remember what they want to remember 🙂
Excellent point
A lot of difference between then and now, BJP has a background of 10 years of stable rule . JD(U) and TDP would like to reap the benifits of their say for next 5 years and would not like to share it with DMK, NCP,TMC,SP etc. BJP will rule for next 5 years, but with a strong opposition, hopefully Congress leads it smartly and wait for its turn, not trying to be the GARLAND straight away , but be the tread that knots the rainbow of opposition parties into a garland.
There is nothing nervous. The speaker always goes to the ruling side. If anything goes out of hand and deputy presides by default becomes speaker, so like you said deputy should not be given
Godi media Please realize Ayodhya roof leakage, paper leakages & airport roof collapse
6:28 jai Kashmir jai Hind no ways …..jai Islam is right 😅
The dictator is ziddi
This is more of a speaker thing video.
When Iran Hijab issue was happening, question was asked to Mr Owasi about it. What he said “why you have to go so far, that’s their internal issue”. So why Mr Owasi is so interested into Palestine issue. This person is a so unreliable
SG and journalist like him will
Never ask him such questions
Owaisi sahab ko salute
Modi is a narrow minded person and it shows
Interesting you didn't mention how important diverse view points are for a democracy. The "bland" politics should never be the norm. Now that the "non biological" Emperor has been bared as naked, i hope we never return to it either.
Cut the clutter: Can we have a law enacted by the Parliament that allows Traffic police to confiscate the mobile phones of motorists caught while talking and driving. The confiscated phones can then be crushed and mixed with bitumen to asphalt our roads.
The speaker is very arrogant and was shown in his attitude towards Shajal Tharoor. He should be expelled
Chalo, Insta kids and YT University graduates will now enjoy that 96-99 era. High fives to all those who saw it on Sansad Samachar.
Congress gained some seats and you can see the likes of Gupta going back to their slavery roots.
😂😂😂 tussle what a joke😊
3:23
Not UBT's Shiv Sena sir
It was Nilesh Lanke from NCP ( SP)
Boring.
Will modi complete 5 years ?
Stopped watching the moment Shekar slipped in an excuse for Owaisi, when Owaisi himself hasn't said that he forgot. Why does Shekar want to find an excuse for Owaisi when the video is about opposition's increased power in the parliament? Answer - secularitis, a disease which makes you be an apologist for anti-national behaviour.
Yes, it is pathetic. Even I, an ardent follower of CTC, do not watch all episodes anymore. Shekhar's anti BJP and pro Congress/Left bias is clear as day. And he has the gall to call this "unhyphenated" journalism. He has the experience and acumen to do better, but choses not to . Owasi needs to be thrown out of parliament.
Here's why I will assume the worst when it comes to Owaisi's intentions. The last time the muslim political class wept for another Islamic country (establishing a caliphate in Turkey, a hundred years ago), it led to a massacre of the Hindus in Kerala (Mophla massacre) that was fanned MK Gandhi's appeasement of the Ali brothers. Since Owaisi draws his inspiration from the same ideology, it's logical to assume the worst until proven otherwise.
Shekhar JOB is to defend Islamic terrorists, Corrupts and Anti India/ Anti Hindu people.
k.Suresh is not a dalit but converted Christian. But claims delit benefit like thousands who do so.
BTW do a CTC on when and how constitution became a 'lal kitab'
Lal kitab is Naxal document as I know.
Nations constitution as I remember was blue in colour.
Indian Parliament is of no consequence. Its members do not discuss a point and arrive at a course of action like Constituent Assembly did. It is a simple platform to give politically acrimonious lectures to score debating points.
I think this govt headed by modi wont complete its full term
Looks like he has full support from Alliance and will complete comfortable
More of your wish
As you wish, If he cannot lift "Rice Bags" then he should not complete it, correct ?
24:50 Why is Congress opposing development of naval base in Andaman? Only the Chinese would have the problem with an Indian naval base in Andaman lol.
If chineese have problems, modi will help them. He is been helping the china to occupy our land
Because when they (hope) come to power in 2029 they would want to develop it themselves and loot the exchequer 😂
I mean, INC and CCP's relationship is well known
The opposition is to keeping the data about it a secret. Not to the development itself.
@@noneoftheabove666k
These conventions have been rendered irrelevant by the extraordinary bitterness negativity and hatred that the Congress and its three time loser ( it is not without reason that he is called Fisaddi Lal ) Rahul Gandhi has brought to Indian politics.
Opposition gave up on first contest.
very Attractive sir, personally also i like you lots,.. and in professional also very good
I am a person with cerebral palsy, PhD scholar from JNU, my area of a specialisation is disability studies. Uttar Pradesh government has given me in writing that they haven't identified people with cerebral palsy suitable for teaching positions while central government according to the new disability law has allowed people with cerebral palsy to teach in higher education such a paradox. I have tried reaching out to chief minister of Uttar Pradesh. Also tweeted to Prime Minister office. I have filed a petition in High Court of Allahabad but for 2 years now they are only giving me new dates
Perhaps the imminent entry of Priyanka who is a far better public speaker is forcing Rahul to become aggressive , otherwise he would have been holidaying by now. Hope the tussle between Gandhi and vadra family doesn’t derail functioning of constitution
Huge time will be wasted with unruly scenes.Will any decision be allowed t be taken?
It was NCP (SP) MP who was mocked by Sujay Vicke Pail
Indian does not require spicy parliament. It requires economic development.
shekhar ji aap better editor nahi afford kar sakte kya ..."SUSPEND". It didn't even make grammatical sense, should have been "suspended"
Wrong on Deputy Speaker convention
Correct your convention on DS
Balanced as all things should be
Thank you sir
Interesting.. Thanks
Boring
Politicians...they always forget that they are there to serve the Nation and its people!
It’s not politician’s problem alone.
It’s the people’s short memory and inability to understand what’s good versus bad for the country in the longterm😂
If someone is selling their vote for meagre Rs200, 300, election commission and judiciary is teeth less and shameful spectators!!
either it shows their dishonesty or ,
their voter id to be Vance
Watch at 2x
Thanks for the sharp insights ✌🏿
Thank you for watching, Pratap. I'm glad you liked this episode...best wishes, Shekhar
Good analysis but based.
Baised (please read)
In 1984, the AIADMK was in alliance with the Congress and helped them win 20+ seats from TN through relaxed seat sharing. So technically Rajiv Gandhi's deputy speaker wasn't from the opposition.
Owaisi took his oath and then said Jai Palestine. Jai Palestine or Jai Hindu Rashta is not part of the oath. Even Modi has said “God Bless America” from the floor of American parliament. It doesn’t make him loyal to America. Why the double standards?
Saying God Bless America, while in America as a Guest and a PM is not swearing alleigance, dimwit.
I don't think you know what 'swearing Allegiance' or 'Oath Taking' means, you must think every speech taken in parliament in any country is oath taking.
Thank u for defending this so we can identify allegiance of some people.
@@anirudhathantry5891 No worries! Do visit me in USA if they give you a visa and you can afford air tickets! Ciao!
@@driasalta4834 Let me explain. The oath of an MP is prescribed by the constiution - Third Schedule, Part B. If you say those words, your oath is done. Many MPs said a lot of things before and after the oath. Someone said JSR, some said Bismillah. One said Jai Hindu Rashtra, one said Jai Palestine. NONE of that is part of oath. Yet, all their oath is valid. Why? Because they said the magic words prescribed by the constitution. Thank you for coming to my class. Have a good day.
Shekarji will be happy to see bigoted people to say non-sensical phrases in our country and will comment on the Mp taking the oath on Sanskrit to say it is not needed for now.......
Yeah. We know. There will be more politics and less discussion on policies. And then people ask, why the country remains backward.
RG being appointed as LOP is going to make the sessions entertaining..
Disqualification of MPs is related to indiscipline and non cooperation and not due to brute majority of BJP. Mahua was a national threat and rightfully disqualified.
Ahh yes... Opposition is not cooperating with the ruling party so let's throw them out and pass bills of national importance without any debate or discussion or vote.
If same opposition does not dispute BJP then everyone cries opposition doesn't do anything. They protest and gets disqualified then they are non cooperative.
They're doomed to do and doomed if they don't.
Are you a lockdown kid, Puneet Kundra? Or really just a dumb bhakt parroting whatever WhatsApp forward you receive from the BJP?
I have watched the parliament proceedings at least for the last 20 years. I don't know if you have. If indiscipline and non-cooperation were basis for disqualification, the likes of Sushma Swaraj, Arun Jaitley and Uma Bharti would not have spent a single day in the parliament.
Shameless bhakt.
I just hope Congress and their alliance can form a government and everyone who has empowered this constitution bachao narrative gets to experience it once.
already experienced 2004-2014, your life goes on the same unless you are a cheerleader for some party. some things better, some things worse.
That's not happening
No just no, karnataka already paying for it, I don't want to pay the same price.
Not till waqt board is removed and hindu temples are freed from Govt and hindu are also allowed to open education centre without minority quota.
@@sumeettanwar1608First, allow Dalits to become priests in Hindu temples
@@roadrash999 I kind of agree and disagree, day to day happens because of your own actions and I totally agree, no politician can change that. This video, however is talking of a fact which is a clear cut evidence that the constituion was bypassed, if you were to interpret constitution this way, then you dont need a speaker also you dont need anything every bill will be a money bill and Rajya Sabha will be dead, however useless the opposition is, them remaining there will ensure that there is a chance for a sunrise some day. This is exactly how coutries like Russia moved towards what they are today, North Korea happened after a war but Russia is a gradual degradation and if we are following a system, we have to look at good and bad examples and keep course correcting.