What did Swordsmen USE WITH Rapiers?

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  • @scholagladiatoria
    @scholagladiatoria  Год назад +45

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    • @arnijulian6241
      @arnijulian6241 Год назад +1

      Another companion weapon to a side sword rarer then a gauntlet is a hatchet/tomahawk.
      More common in the new world mind.
      You discussed weight & a hatchet doubles as a tool that only weighs about 1.1 to 1.5Ib's roughly.
      A Roman retiarii=net-men net you mentioned is called a rete.
      Daishou is the Japanese closest equivalent of (side sword & companion weapon) mentioned.
      Daishou from daitou= long sword & shoutou=short sword.
      This initially started as a paring of daitou=longsword with a tantou=dagger.
      Japanese 'long sword' is long 1 handed sword not a 2 handed sword meaning so a daitou is really equivalent to a 'side sword'
      I can't recall what writing of hand it described using a small (stool) & other random pieces of furniture as a companion weapon to a side sword!
      Beggars can't be choosers, as the adage goes I suppose.
      I wonder if rock & side sword was ever a thing?
      lob a rock in their face then run them through with a point.
      It's so simple I'd be shocked if no onw ever did it historically!

    • @blacklight4720
      @blacklight4720 Год назад

      Matt, can you do video about strange armor experiments( I believe it was during 13 century). Plate armor only on hands for example. I can't seem to find information on the subject.

    • @Fastwinstondoom
      @Fastwinstondoom Год назад +5

      I'm gonna have a look at En Garde once my infatuation with Baldurs Gate 3 abates slightly. Great sponsor, very thematic for the channel :)

    • @charlesparr1611
      @charlesparr1611 Год назад +2

      Deeply disappointed not to see the greatest of all off hand accessories, the whole roasted chicken.

    • @takingbacktoxic7898
      @takingbacktoxic7898 Год назад +2

      When you first mentioned En Garde! I thought for a second you were talking about the old table top RPG from back in the 1970s!
      Been a while since I played that game.... (Its still in print, I recommend trying it haha)

  • @georgeirvin473
    @georgeirvin473 Год назад +270

    We have sparred with Tin Lanterns in a completely darkened room. You wouldn't think the light of a simple candle would blind you like a modern Torch/Flashlight and it doesn't really. What we did find was that the person behind the lantern completely disappeared. Any motion or movement made behind the Lantern was completely invisible as well. The most effective lantern “guard” we found was in the off hand, extended arm, hand upper chest level. If ya ever get the chance do it! It was great fun! p.s. an open candlestick does not work as well.

    • @akumagouki8668
      @akumagouki8668 Год назад +14

      I got the idea to modernize and work flashlight and Machete from old sources that mention the lantern, a strobing flashlight is debilitating.

    • @williamromine5715
      @williamromine5715 Год назад +8

      I would think that the light of a lantern would blow out very quickly. I have to admit that I haven't been around lanterns for a long time(I'm 81), and it was a Coleman which was gasoline powered, and lit up in all directions. When battery lanterns became more useable I switched to them when walking around at night when camping.

    • @theg0z0n
      @theg0z0n Год назад +1

      That sounds absolutely amazing!

    • @georgeirvin473
      @georgeirvin473 Год назад

      The lanterns we used were the pierced tin type with a door on the front. We fought with the door open and didnt have a problem with them blowing out. Although we did figure out pretty quickly, hitting the candle and knocking it out was a good tactic.
      @@williamromine5715

    • @azathoth3700
      @azathoth3700 Год назад +10

      @@akumagouki8668This is absolutely a thing that is taught in self-defense. A good flashlight, even a small one that fits entirely in the hand and cannot be used as a club, is a brilliant way to blind and/or disorient an attacker.

  • @JustArten
    @JustArten Год назад +69

    First time a game sponsor has my interest. What a time to be.

  • @bobito8997
    @bobito8997 Год назад +108

    The lantern didn't blow my mind because it's in the 1973 film of The Three Musketeers. They also used cloaks and even sheets grabbed from washing lines. Best sword fights in movie history for so many reasons.

    • @michaelel650
      @michaelel650 Год назад +6

      Just talking about this at my class this evening, great reference, all the best.

    • @Kissamiess
      @Kissamiess Год назад +10

      And Christopher Lee plays Rochefort.

    • @ostrowulf
      @ostrowulf Год назад +6

      In the Duelists they also do the left hand mitten, so that one made the movies too.

  • @FionaAnstian
    @FionaAnstian Год назад +101

    I've actually saved my life before doing security with cloak techniques. They've always fascinated me so i had looked into them, and when someone attacked me with a knife i was able to gather up my trench coat and catch their knife. Scariest thing I've ever had to do, but i was very grateful to have at least casually studied the concept.

    • @GarrettPetersen
      @GarrettPetersen Год назад +10

      Glad you survived!

    • @Quincy_Morris
      @Quincy_Morris Год назад +2

      Nice
      Care to say more?

    • @azathoth3700
      @azathoth3700 Год назад +12

      To piggyback on this and also Matt's point about instinctive flinch responses, I was once attacked by someone with a box-cutter and I instinctively parried the attack with my hand/arm. It cut through my jumper and slashed my arm a bit, but it was certainly a hell of a lot better than having my face or neck cut open.
      In the end, it didn't even require stitches, which I put down to a combination of an unskilled attacker, my own jumper's thickness, and the parry putting the blade into a shallower angle to my arm than the sort of perpendicular slash it would have been to my face.

  • @j.f.fisher5318
    @j.f.fisher5318 Год назад +74

    Great video. I've long felt the cloak is sadly neglected in games and fiction.

    • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
      @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis Год назад +6

      I once saw a fist fight in a subwaystation between two drunkards and midfight the weaker one suddenly took of his scarf and wrapped it around his right arm gripping it tight and hold the loose end with the oder fist. When his opponent attacked he wrapped the scarf either around the opponent's arm or neck making it easier for him to land a punch.
      It all happened slowmotion and the hits weren't hard because of their intoxicated state.

  • @Magey_McMage
    @Magey_McMage Год назад +75

    One thing I would point about using a cloak, keeping in mind a historically accurate weight/density of the wool to make it useful as a cloak proper, is that these things can be REALLY HEAVY, definitely a drawback when I've done some sparring with anything that isnt lightweight polyester but a 14-24oz wool, whether it is wrapped around your arm or dangled will definitely give your forearm an INSANE workout!

    • @farkasmactavish
      @farkasmactavish Год назад +19

      I've done sparring vs an opponent just using a jacket, actually, and can confirm that while it is heavy, that weight is the whole point, and what allows you to bat aside a sword blade, and weigh it down so that your opponent is slower to respond.

    • @PJDAltamirus0425
      @PJDAltamirus0425 Год назад

      Yeah, also, to a point to Matt Easton's brigandine video, natural has some water proofing with lanonlin and mail is abrasive.@@farkasmactavish

    • @ShadowyFox_86
      @ShadowyFox_86 11 месяцев назад +2

      We also need to keep in mind there were cloaks made specifically for dueling that weren't quite so heavy, and it was more the texture of the fabric that did the capturing than the weight. Even with the weight of a normal cloak, used properly, it's not going to be that much of an issue for folks to use.
      I have a very traditionally made wool cloak. It has weight but not so much it would be unusable.

  • @b.h.abbott-motley2427
    @b.h.abbott-motley2427 Год назад +42

    Another option would be the arquebus. In treatises from the end of the 16th century, Martín de Eguiluz & Sir John Smythe both mentioned the technique of using the arquebus in the left hand to parry while wielding a sword in the right. This was with military swords more like what we'd call sideswords than rapiers, though de Eguiluz did note that Spanish arquebusiers generally had longer swords than the arquebusiers of other nations. Bonaventura Pistofilo even shows rapier (or sword, but it looks very much like an iconic rapier) with a full musket & rest in the left hand. Sword/rapier with the pike in the left hand likewise appears in Pistofilo & another manual or two.

  • @lightbox617
    @lightbox617 Год назад +25

    I had my sons take fencing lessons. They did well enough that tone of them went on to (slightly) compete in collage. I always wanted to try to learn rapier but always thought it would be paired with a 12 to 16 inch dagger with a good hand guard. Fantasy is very rewarding, especially if you never have to do it in real life

  • @fattiger6957
    @fattiger6957 Год назад +22

    I recall cloaks being used in the movie Alatriste during rapier fights. I've always wondered about that. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

  • @b.h.abbott-motley2427
    @b.h.abbott-motley2427 Год назад +28

    Domingo Luis Godinho gave this bit of advice about parrying cuts with a cloak: "Entering in the fight, it is not permissible to crudely take the opponent’s blows on the cloak, because although sometimes it doesn’t do damage, other times it does notable damage; I have seen arms mangled from having taken blows on the cloak."

    • @ShadowyFox_86
      @ShadowyFox_86 11 месяцев назад

      I love that the advice says to not crudely do it. That sort of phrasing seems to imply there were "right ways" to work with a cloak and "wrong ways."
      Based on this quote and the context this video provides for using cloaks, do you think Domingo is suggesting caution in using a cloak to block with in general? Or in using a cloak specifically for blocking repeated blows? I could definitely see the latter but don't have the full context.

  • @barnettmcgowan8978
    @barnettmcgowan8978 Год назад +15

    There's a great example of Rapier and Lantern fighting in The Four Musketeers (1974). The fight between d'Artagnan and Rochefort on the road to Calais. They fight at night using Rapier and Lantern. I think that scene would make a great subject for a review.

  • @wimmer3324
    @wimmer3324 Год назад +44

    I am surprised that a flintlock pistol wasn't one of the options. It has only one shot but at swordfighting range you propably won't miss. And even if you do you can still parry with it

    • @krystalneko4094
      @krystalneko4094 Год назад +6

      By the time flintlocks were common enough to be owned by the average person for self-defense, many would just have the pistol by itself or with a knife or would go for a saber and pistol combo, since rapiers were generally more expensive in both training needed and financial cost. Dueling for honor and war were also swapping out rapiers for flintlocks and sabers.
      Rapier and pistol is a pretty cool combo tho
      It's just that by the time they overlapped in common usage the rapier was often getting eschewed in favor of some other weapon when paired.

    • @Quincy_Morris
      @Quincy_Morris Год назад +3

      @@krystalneko4094not sure about this. There were entire treatises written regarding the use of sword and pistol at the same time.

    • @petriew2018
      @petriew2018 Год назад +1

      during the era in question, when swords as self defense was a common thing, people just tended not to carry the pistol outside of a purely military context. They were heavy, bulky, fragile and finicky things, pretty unsuited to personal defense. So in the sense of defending yourself with a sword and pistol.... yeah, most people are carrying the sword because the pistol isn't a practical option. You'll see it in military treatises or swashbuckler movies, but that's always in a strictly martial context
      frankly it wouldn't be until the metallic cartridge that people would see a pistol as a viable self defense tool at all among the urban population.

    • @Neomalthusiano
      @Neomalthusiano 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@petriew2018Black powder revolvers came before metal cartridge ammo. With them you had six shots to defend yourself. And before revolvers, there were lorenzonis but I concur that they were rare/expensive, so shouldn't count.

    • @jaspermooren5883
      @jaspermooren5883 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@petriew2018 yeah, the biggest problem is that in a self defense scenario, your pistol wouldn't be loaded anyway. It would be absolutely mental to walk around with a loaded gun all the time in a time when there was no such thing as a safety pin. Drawing a sword is pretty quick, but you'd never have the time to load a pistol in a self defense scenario, at least not in the 16th and 17th century.

  • @superrobotmonkeyhyperteamf3194
    @superrobotmonkeyhyperteamf3194 Год назад +34

    Palladini gives more info about how exactly he expected someone to get hands on two rapiers. He writes that this case often arise when two or more people attack and you ask your page, servant or friend or even a bystandard to loan you their sword so they can be used like the spadone.

    • @Quincy_Morris
      @Quincy_Morris Год назад +9

      Ah. Or when your ‘friends’ decide to throw down their sword and book it instead of fight. A true ‘and you have my sword’ moment.

    • @ShadowyFox_86
      @ShadowyFox_86 11 месяцев назад +2

      Ooh! That makes sense! Sounds like a situation of near desperation rather than one you'd be planning to find yourself in.

    • @YTPrule
      @YTPrule 7 месяцев назад +1

      The two sword style has its advantages against more than one person. Still sucks to get ganged on though.

  • @malahamavet
    @malahamavet Год назад +10

    these rapier videos really help me whith my swashbuckling novel. This video helped me think cool weapon combinations for diferent characters and even inspired me to think of new characters just because of certain combinations, thank you! always love the rapier videos because I'm not a swordsman and still wish to create stories around fencing :D

    • @Nerdsammich
      @Nerdsammich Год назад +1

      I've seen a lot of SCA fencing, and a common off-hand item in those circles is a cane. It's something a gentleman would carry and is very useful for hooking and controlling an opponent's blade.

  • @Kamamura2
    @Kamamura2 Год назад +8

    During my HEMA reenactment days in the 90s, my favorite off-hand weapon was a wooden cross while playing the role of somewhat belligerent priest - the cross could be used to parry weak cuts and push thrust aside, as well as in the "Confess!!!" posture in between the exchanges for some extra theatric effect.

  • @peterchristiansen9695
    @peterchristiansen9695 Год назад +20

    I wonder if Matt (our ‘hero of the people’) has considered the ULTIMATE off-hand sidearm (as demonstrated by those intrepid explorers, Nate and Tyranth): POCKET SAND !!!)?! 😂

    • @Quincy_Morris
      @Quincy_Morris Год назад +1

      Which is not a joke. it is in fact a real technique.

  • @issen2291
    @issen2291 Год назад +7

    Oh wow, I didn't expect Scholagladiatoria to get an En Garde! integration. It helps that it's an absolutely PHENOMENAL game.

  • @bbb462cid
    @bbb462cid Год назад +5

    In the 1973 Richard Lester film "the three Musketeers" I always found it interesting the way that Reed portrayed Athos' fighting style, how he'd wrap a cloak around his left arm, and how many of the Cardinal's guards used an off-hand dagger.

  • @kaoskronostyche9939
    @kaoskronostyche9939 Год назад +3

    A Maille glove with a parrying dagger in ones belt could be the ultimate combination. Thank you very much for more follow up regarding the Rapier. Your enthusiasm is infectious and your love of the subject matter is clear. Cheers!

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 Год назад +1

      Mind that, first to use something, you have to carry it and, being a rapier a civilian weapon, it obeyed to the dress codes of it's time.
      While it was normal in 16th-17th century, for a gentleman, to wear a sword everywhere, in many occasions he would have seemed too much stuffed wearing also a parrying dagger, or a buckler.
      Everyone had a cloak instead.

    • @kaoskronostyche9939
      @kaoskronostyche9939 Год назад

      @@neutronalchemist3241Did you not see the video??? Matt just gave us thirty minutes of alternatives, I made a fanciful suggestion. The rapier was NOT just a civilian weapon - as Matt JUST SAID. You have no idea what you are talking about and you remain stupid even after seeing a video on the topic.
      What is WRONG with you? Do you have to spew idiocy just to get some attention or are you so tiny minded that you can't learn from an expert. I doubt everyone was wearing a cloak in the scorching Spanish summer. Jeez I hate stupid people.

  • @shotgunridersweden
    @shotgunridersweden Год назад +18

    Cloaks: Also when the fabric covers the opponents blade they tend to loose proprioception of the weapon. Ive tried this quite a bit against both knives and daggers

    • @ShadowyFox_86
      @ShadowyFox_86 11 месяцев назад +1

      This is definitely something fabric is apparently good at, not just when a weapon was trapped. I saw someone who tried on an Irish leine, who said they had trouble knowing where their body was in relation to the blade and that their movements were sometimes timid and cautious because of it. I love complicating factors in combat.

  • @ElDrHouse2010
    @ElDrHouse2010 Год назад +10

    6:39 Rob Childs is god tier with this weapon combination. He uses it with the blade of the Rapier down to bait out mistakes from the opponent, also because he doesn't like to get his rapier controlled by the opponent ofc easiest way to do that is to not have it in line & rely on your own speed more.

  • @MasoTrumoi
    @MasoTrumoi Год назад +19

    En Garde is great. It's short, but really punchy and well made. Hopefully future updates/dlc will add more modes or levels, but it's kind of like a playful, easier version of sekiro.

    • @Quincy_Morris
      @Quincy_Morris Год назад +5

      Ooh that’s what I was hoping for.

    • @MasoTrumoi
      @MasoTrumoi Год назад +5

      @@Quincy_Morris I've already beaten it on normal and hard mode. Only have one Arena stage left that I've put off til last

  • @Trav_Can
    @Trav_Can Год назад +10

    14:21 This makes me think about how these older practices continued on in Latin America. The duels fought by gauchos with their poncho and facón. And Samuel Chamberlain's account of dueling a Mexican with a machete and poncho around his arm. This is a topic not really covered much, but in an age of when blade combat was common, this was probably a big consideration.

    • @ShadowyFox_86
      @ShadowyFox_86 11 месяцев назад +1

      That makes so much sense! Spanish influence abounds in quite a few of the areas in Central & South America.

    • @Trav_Can
      @Trav_Can 11 месяцев назад

      @@ShadowyFox_86 Absolutely! Many cultural traits that Spain left behind continue on in parts of Latin America to this day. Unlike North America where we pretty much exterminated and moved the ingenious population, Spain and Portugal had a different form of colonialism which primarily focused on the extraction of resources. They weren't really there to settle initially, more just to take stuff. Who does this work? Young men. Young men need women. Hence the birth of mestizo cultures. It's fascinating this mix of medieval Spanish and Native American cultures. Probably nothing like that will happen again in human history. Two alien worlds meeting like that. And melding together. At the end of the day, if you find yourself in a knife fight, and you can wrap a blanket around your arm, do it! Cheers!

  • @markthomason9723
    @markthomason9723 Год назад +2

    I'd like to see Matt discuss the concept of a tempo in itself, for any and all weapons. To strike in same tempo, gain a tempo, parry then use next tempo set up by that parry. It is a key concept for many weapons, and explains the proper use of many of them. Matt clearly knows it well, and mentions it in discussion of many weapons, but it deserves attention for itself as much as for any given weapon.

    • @Scuzzlebutt142
      @Scuzzlebutt142 Год назад +1

      The issue is tempo is a big topic, as every different system has a different explanation/use for it, and different sets of time, So an hour video may be in the cards to explain it properly.

    • @markthomason9723
      @markthomason9723 Год назад +1

      @@Scuzzlebutt142 Great. I would look forward to Matt's attempt to make sense of it.

  • @juliusagh9038
    @juliusagh9038 Год назад +1

    Didn’t know about the lantern used as a defense tool or a purpose made gauntlet. Thanks for the information sir. I for one really enjoyed the lesson.

  • @valandil7454
    @valandil7454 Год назад +5

    The blocking and grappling came naturally when I started HEMA because of all the Jujutsu, but I've always wanted to learn to use shields, cloaks and lights like that. So cool 🙂
    I was surprised you didn't mention a gun though Matt, I guess you 'were' focusing on earlier stuff 🤔

  • @robertusaugustus2003
    @robertusaugustus2003 Год назад +9

    I’d love to hear more about the 16th-17th centuries in regards to weapons and armour, the more I learn about it the more it just looks like the late middle ages with a ton of gunpowder

    • @thekaxmax
      @thekaxmax Год назад

      that's exactly what it was. Watch the Three Musketeers movies and series, all of them. :P

  • @MidwestArtMan
    @MidwestArtMan Год назад +3

    This was a really interesting video. I hadn't heard of a set of rapiers before, which is really cool just how they fit together. Also, imagine fighting someone who has one of those stealth gauntlets. You'd swing at them, and all of a sudden, they've basically got a Superman hand.

  • @fitz12ify
    @fitz12ify Год назад +3

    I was waiting for the good old stick. I must say that the cloak is surprisingly really good. It is still used now a days in modern knife fights.

  • @daveyoder9231
    @daveyoder9231 Год назад +3

    Very nicely done! I appreciate you mentioning sources in your presentation

  • @dscrye
    @dscrye Год назад +6

    4:15 interestingly, there are also a fair few off-hand defensive moves in the taiji and (competition) wushu jian forms. We call them circle blocks. I really wouldn't want to do it with a sharp blade unless I had heavy gloves on or could get close to the hilt where it wasn't so sharp, mind. That last third of the blade is razor edged, and not being careful is just asking for your opponent to flick their wrist a bit and cut you in a very veiny area.

    • @ShadowyFox_86
      @ShadowyFox_86 11 месяцев назад

      That's fascinating! I love that amount of finesse those martial styles require, and I could see where you'd have to be very adept and accurate to pull those off well.

  • @librabys
    @librabys Год назад +3

    I found the bare hand to be indeed extremely useful against another thrust centric weapon. I love the cloak, for style, for diversion, and because it still allows to use the bare hand if you want (very disposable at need). That being said, main-gauche daggers are super sexy.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 Год назад

      Mind that, first to use something, you have to carry it and, being a rapier a civilian weapon, it obeyed to the dress codes of it's time.
      While it was normal in 16th-17th century, for a gentleman, to wear a sword everywhere, in many occasions he would have seemed too much stuffed wearing also a parrying dagger, or a buckler.
      Everyone had a cloak instead.

  • @wizardozark2735
    @wizardozark2735 Год назад +1

    15:59 cloaks with thrusting attacks, it's quite effective if done with proper technique. You must angle the arm properly, I'll admit this can allow for some grazing cuts but it also can trap the opponents' blade even more effectively than other offhand weapons.
    The cloak is definitely one of my favorite offhand weapons and I'll tell you now a kevlar weave cloak can do amazing things😊 not stop bullets obviously, don't try to take it into combat, that's what Shields and armor are for. But for the dueling it is simply amazing. It allows an abundance of blocking styles from an infinite amount of styles.

  • @darinsingleton3553
    @darinsingleton3553 Год назад +1

    I was introduced to a lot of these options throughout the 3 & 4 Musketeer movies from the mid 70's.
    A lot of rousing, boisterous, fun.

  • @TheLord0Ice0Wind
    @TheLord0Ice0Wind Год назад +3

    I dig the lantern, a high lumen pocket torch is an underrated tool....I wonder if a calcium carbide lantern would suffice as well

  • @brucemagee3199
    @brucemagee3199 Год назад +1

    Never would have thought that as lantern for a off hand weapon, thought a hat might be used . Thanks great video.

  • @epone3488
    @epone3488 Год назад

    I'm so glad you got to the hand. Watching the previous videos I was always thinking 'hand'. its so important it defines what the layman thinks of as 'sword stance' where it moves to just a balance aid.

  • @cp1cupcake
    @cp1cupcake Год назад +47

    I was surprised that one of the weapons wasn't a pistol.

    • @SaftonYT
      @SaftonYT Год назад +9

      Yeah, I kept expecting a wheellock/matchlock pistol.

    • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
      @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis Год назад +4

      He didn't specify it in the title, but I think this was meant as an "top8 off-hand [melee] weapons used with rapier..."

    • @thekaxmax
      @thekaxmax Год назад +5

      the pistol is your _main_ weapon, at least until it needs reloading. :D

    • @peterchristiansen9695
      @peterchristiansen9695 Год назад +2

      @@thekaxmaxBack in those days it would need reloading immediately! The sage advice would thus have been: "Make your one shot count!" 😁

    • @SaftonYT
      @SaftonYT Год назад +3

      @@thekaxmax Regardless of whether you consider it your "main" weapon, pistols were frequently used in the off-hand during later periods in conjunction with a sword. And that's ostensibly the subject of the video: off-hand weapons to be used with a rapier.

  • @coralmar5329
    @coralmar5329 Год назад

    Did not expect the lantern- thank you for shining a light on it

  • @JC-Denton
    @JC-Denton Год назад +5

    Fun Fact: Had to look that term up. What apparently you call in English "Swashbuckler film", is actually "Mantel-und-Degen-Film" (coat and eppee/small sword film) in German. Therefore the cloak coming up did not surprise me at all.
    Cheers, J. ⚔

    • @ShadowyFox_86
      @ShadowyFox_86 11 месяцев назад +1

      That makes so much sense! Thank you for providing this info.

    • @apatriarca
      @apatriarca 2 месяца назад +2

      It is "cappa e spada" in Italian which also translates as cloak and sword. I also always thought, but never did any research, that the Cloak and Dagger marvel character names were a word play on this.

    • @JC-Denton
      @JC-Denton 2 месяца назад

      @@apatriarca Thanks for the addition. Seems to be an international term, that. ⚔

  • @crazypetec-130fe7
    @crazypetec-130fe7 Год назад +2

    I've used lanterns a couple of times, and everything else a lot in SCA fencing. I'm surprised there was nothing about using a stiff scabbard or a baton to parry in this video, they work quite well. Tavern brawls are more colorful with a heavy metal stein as a left-hand parry; it's a little awkward, but still useful. But my all-time favorite off-hand is the Indian madu (basically a buckler with dagger blades sticking out of both sides of the handle). It makes a VERY effective parrying device, and a somewhat awkward offensive weapon. You just have to be careful to not hit yourself in the leg with the lower blade.

    • @ShadowyFox_86
      @ShadowyFox_86 11 месяцев назад +1

      I've thought that it would be interesting to see someone have a smaller shillelagh as an offhand weapon. The protrusions that naturally occur with that could be quite a challenge to overcome.

  • @andreweden9405
    @andreweden9405 Год назад

    I've always loved those Capo Ferro engravings!

  • @Jim58223
    @Jim58223 Год назад

    I can't believe Matt flashed me in this video. Not disappointed. Also Adam Savage did a good video on his Tested channel at the MET where they show one of those maille lined gloves recently.

    • @morat242
      @morat242 Год назад +1

      Yeah, the *click* when the fingertip snaps to the magnet was a nice little surprise. It's such an elegant glove, it's too bad it's impossible to preserve the glove without wrecking the lining and vice versa.

  • @MasoTrumoi
    @MasoTrumoi Год назад +2

    In the Musketeer drama book series Captain Alatriste, the titular character likes to use Rapier and in the offhand a Bilbao, called Vizcaína in the book, which is basically the shorter sailor's rapier that Bilbo Baggins is named for. It provides a shorter weapon but still larger and substantial. In the movie he also uses a Bullfighter's dagger. It's pretty cool.

    • @issen2291
      @issen2291 Год назад +1

      A Vizcaína and a Bilbo sword are different things! Vizcaína typically refers to the "Daga Vizcaína" (dagger named after the Basque city of Bizkaia), which is essentially just a sail guard main gauche. A Bilbo sword (named after the Basque city of Bilbao) is a fully fledged cut and thrust sword or, as you described it, a shorter, wider-bladed rapier with a shell guard often used by sailors).
      The Vizcaína carried by Alatriste is, indeed, a parrying dagger with a sail guard! Also known as a "spanish left hand dagger", extremely common companion to the spanish cup hilt rapier in period.
      It's worth mentioning that the name "Vizcaína" was made up by Perez-Reverte himself.

    • @MasoTrumoi
      @MasoTrumoi Год назад

      @@issen2291 Ah I see. I recall the translation I read referring to it as a "short sword" rather than a dagger, which is why I googled it and looked it up in the first place to discover the Bilbo sword in the first place.
      I actually had a training Bilbo made for myself and it doesn't do too bad in the offhand, but it makes sense it was just a sail dagger. I figured that it was just the author taking artistic license and giving Alatriste an offhand sword to make him feel more distinct.

    • @acidic_magpie
      @acidic_magpie Год назад +1

      Bizkaia is actually a region within the Basque Country, not a city (Bilbao is its capital)

  • @firestrom44
    @firestrom44 Год назад

    Wow really knocking it out with the amount of rapier videos you're dropping!

  • @Tupinamba77
    @Tupinamba77 Год назад

    As always, excellent research and presentation!

  • @Solitary_Scribe55
    @Solitary_Scribe55 Год назад

    Magnificent coverage of the topic. Great video.

  • @MichaelMcQuown
    @MichaelMcQuown Год назад +1

    3/4 Musketeers did a great job of portraying most of those techniques. If you want a start on a mail glove, check out butcher's supplies. I had a butcher's glove stitched to a gauntlet and it worked quite well.

    • @ShadowyFox_86
      @ShadowyFox_86 11 месяцев назад

      I'm so glad to know someone has done that because I've thought of trying that very thing.

  • @keldon_champion
    @keldon_champion 9 месяцев назад

    Another important thing to consider with why dagger was the most common accompanying weapon is utility it can be handy to carry a cutting tool with you.

  • @reaperwithnoname
    @reaperwithnoname Год назад

    I was thinking of the mail glove when you were talking about the left hand at the beginning. Was not expecting the middle finger, though!

  • @knightjack
    @knightjack Год назад

    I'm really excited about En Guard, I've been hearing about it recently

  • @dougsundseth6904
    @dougsundseth6904 Год назад +1

    In addition to those, I'd mention scabbards (assuming you have a rigid scabbard that is not firmly attached to your belt) and hats, especially leather hats, which are comparable to cloaks in their ability to catch an opponent's point.

  • @Kinetic.44
    @Kinetic.44 Год назад +1

    That dagger you showed looks fantastic! I adore the 15th century backsword from the collection, its more of a falchion than the falchion lol. i sharpened the false edge to use arming sword short edge techniques with it as well. I hope your working on the 1788 heavy cavalry sword for the collection, we need a cutlass as well.

  • @CrunchyPBJ
    @CrunchyPBJ Год назад +1

    Honestly, I had the gauntlet in mind pretty much since you mentioned the hand. When you got to the lantern, I just assumed it had been left off of the list.

  • @frederikklotzskov9673
    @frederikklotzskov9673 Год назад

    Wacthing an omni dexterous swordsman on the battlefield most have been a sight to see.

  • @M.M.83-U
    @M.M.83-U Год назад

    A very complete presentation. Thanks
    10:48 Hurrà, my favorite style! (It's targhetta, the targa is the big version, like rotella size)

  • @leppeppel
    @leppeppel Год назад +1

    I don't know how historically accurate it is, but I've seen reenactors use rapier and stein. The premise is that since many unofficial duels would have been brought about by a bit too much liquid courage, the stein would be readily to hand, if not already *in* hand. It can parry incoming thrusts aside, and of course you can also glass your opponent with it. You can even splash your drink in their face, rather like shining a lantern in their eyes.

  • @GallowglassAxe
    @GallowglassAxe Год назад +1

    The left hand gauntlet was very popular in Ireland during the 16th century. We can see it being used in Dravn after the Qvick picture and a couple others of it being worn or just carried.

    • @ShadowyFox_86
      @ShadowyFox_86 11 месяцев назад

      Do you happen to know when the first known instances of it being used are? I am leaning towards an Irish persona in the SCA, and would love to incorporate something like that

    • @GallowglassAxe
      @GallowglassAxe 11 месяцев назад

      @@ShadowyFox_86 All the pictures I know of come about the 16th century. I know their is some writings as my reenactment friend (The Wilde Irishe) has told me but I do not know where they are referenced nor the time period of those writings.

  • @emmitstewart1921
    @emmitstewart1921 Год назад

    Very interesting. As you were talking about using a lantern as a weapon, it occurred to me that flashing the light in your opponents eyes could be an excellent aid to your defense because even if it only used a candle as a light source, even if the light isn't bright enough to blind your attacker, it would wipe out his night vision, and it would leave an after image. The more often you flash him, the more images will appear. If as many lanterns do, it has a reflector behind the light, you can use the light to interfere with his vision but limit the damage to your own to loss of night vision. It would be a very slight advantage, but it might be enough to make a difference.

  • @HoJu1989
    @HoJu1989 Год назад

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  • @thinusconradie4297
    @thinusconradie4297 Год назад

    "Shank them with abandon"... Good. I have learned a new technical term. 😆
    The lantern certainly blew my mind, as did the gauntlet.

  • @dutchboy9273
    @dutchboy9273 Год назад +2

    I saw an original Italian Case Set, single scabbard, where the blade on one was significantly shorter oroviding an off hand dagger. Unfortunately the owner wouldn't sell😢.

  • @erroneous6947
    @erroneous6947 Год назад +1

    I appreciate your attention to detail and respect for history. This was the first time you made me laugh out loud with the chain mail middle finger salute.

  • @felixheitzer2262
    @felixheitzer2262 Год назад

    Cool, the vid was again rather inspirational, cause I do at the Moment wright my own ttrpg set in an age of Rapiers, gunpowder and witchcraft.

  • @TakManSan
    @TakManSan Год назад

    I’ve used the reverse left-hand technique with a rapier while fencing in the round. It was very effective allowing a natural block to develop. Hooking their blade with the quillons in a rising block with the left then pop right in the XXXX. Leading with the left in this style tends to draw in long probing pokes which can be easily deflected and through their guard. Your statement about the two rapiers technique getting in their own way is totally correct. Without a lot of training they just end up rattling about, or holding it behind their back which is ineffective.
    I would be interested in an update on good and bad sword (or any weapon) fights in film or well, series. So many weird physics-defying stuff on display.

    • @thekaxmax
      @thekaxmax Год назад

      I've been taught the same basic idea with a pair of katanas. The off-hand held backhanded and used a bit like a tonfa as defense, but with some offensive utility.

  • @BaronVonHardcharger
    @BaronVonHardcharger Год назад

    "Hero of the people. like ME" Bahahah! I love this channel. Thanks Mr.Easton!

  • @mallardtheduck406
    @mallardtheduck406 Год назад +1

    I read where the Spanish Conquistador Francisco Pizarro in Lima Peru was attacked by several of his men....a coupe perhaps? Anyways, he used a cloak wrapped around his arm and his side sword Spada Ropera and killed what 6 or 7 men before finally being killed. They also cut off his head. I believe he was close to his late 60's when that took place. One tough old dude. That is a nice cup hilt rapier, it reminded me of one of the rapiers right out of the movie "Alatriste".

  • @danjorissen
    @danjorissen Год назад

    I highly enjoy your content, keep up the good work!!! I also was easterly shocked about the lantern. I have been telling folks for years how excellent a flashlight or torch is for self defence and this brings historical backing to my argument lol thanks mate cheers!

  • @CZOV
    @CZOV Год назад

    Excellent overview of the rapier. Glad to see u finally getting into it ;)

  • @ericmorrin9035
    @ericmorrin9035 Год назад

    Id over looked lanterns, though they are held by iron poles. I kept waiting for a walking stick or a pistol to be brought up.
    as always a great video

  • @DaiHachiHachi
    @DaiHachiHachi Год назад

    Great video as always; As a bit of an aside but Adam Savage has been releasing videos of his visit(s?) to the MET and one video from a few weeks ago now, features an example of the chainmail lined gloves.

  • @jamesedmison2768
    @jamesedmison2768 Год назад

    Always enjoy your insights

  • @Sk0lzky
    @Sk0lzky Год назад

    En Garde unironically slaps! I'm not a fan of this sort of "closed arena action games" but I got it after seeing it in Iron Pineapple's video and I wasn't disappointed. Good stuff.

  • @JustGrowingUp84
    @JustGrowingUp84 Год назад

    I know of "En Garde" from Iron Pineapple.
    It seems to be a very interesting swashbuckling game!

  • @sandmanhh67
    @sandmanhh67 Год назад

    Re the first one - using your hand. I recall in the excellent film The Duellists in one fight with small swords Keith Carradines character is wearing a long heavy black leather or cloth gauntlet and sleeve that looks to be tied above the elbow with a lace on his left arm.

  • @Kenjitsuka
    @Kenjitsuka Год назад

    Great stuff, Matt!

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan Год назад

    Woo! I guessed all but big shield (seemed redundant with buckler) and lantern. My long shot guess was pistol.

  • @eweasel1
    @eweasel1 Год назад

    I don't know if it is just a modern fantasy trope, but I like rapier/ flint lock pistol. You have the one shot of the pistol and after most, military, flint lock pistols were built big and rugged enough to both parry with and use as a blunt weapon.

  • @hilossrt4
    @hilossrt4 Год назад +1

    A related topic is concerning the addition of pistols as side arms used in combination with rapiers and how long did it take for them to replace the sword as the primary weapon in duels.

    • @Solitary_Scribe55
      @Solitary_Scribe55 Год назад

      Pistols didn't replace the sword as primary duelling weapon until the Napoleonic era, and post- 1800 at that. I think Matt did a video on this in the past, or I could be thinking of someone else...

  • @Guildofarcanelore
    @Guildofarcanelore Год назад

    I always enjoyed using buckler with rapier when we played with them in Kandahar

  • @outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699
    @outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 Год назад +4

    Ok but how do we combine all of these to make an abomination?
    I’d imagine it as a shield-sized buckler with a built in, chain maille lined gauntlet with tons of quillions sticking out the front as well as a 40 inch rapier blade sticking straight out of the boss with long fabric hanging all around the outside as well as a lantern hanging from the bottom. Just so the rapier doesn’t feel left out you could give it one of those built in firing mechanisms.
    What are we left with? The most versatile off hand tool? Or just an extremely sore arm? Both?

    • @masoluboxD
      @masoluboxD Год назад +3

      something close to this is the lantern shield

    • @Parostem
      @Parostem Год назад +2

      @@masoluboxD I was thinking the same thing. Maybe that's how the Lantern Shield was invented? Someone couldn't make up their mind on what kind of sidearm to carry with their sword and just decided to have all of them :P

    • @victorro8760
      @victorro8760 Год назад

      A vambraced gauntlet with the large buckler around it so the hand is sticking through where the boss would be. The lantern is built in to the buckler just like the lantern shield. The rapier blade is fixed to the vambrace so it's parallel-ish with your bottom forearm bone. Wear a parrying dagger and the cloak, ready to be deployed. Actually employing them might be a problem though.

  • @ulflidsman3064
    @ulflidsman3064 Год назад

    I have used the cloak against an opponent armed with the single rapier and it work surprisingly well. If you throw the cloak and it lands of the opponents rapier it's nearly impossible to hold up the rapier and you have a clear target for your thrust. If the cloak missed your opponent often moves his rapier to avoid the cloak in such a way that you can thrust or cut him och her. When we sparred with the cloak I think that the person with the cloak managed to hit the opponent more than 50% of the times and if it didn't work the opponent where often not in a position to launch a riposte and you kept the initiative.

  • @BYGTraining
    @BYGTraining Год назад

    Great video! I watch a lot of your videos but I didn't know they made offhand gloves/gauntlets. That seems like it would be the best thing.

  • @KendoSwordsman
    @KendoSwordsman Год назад

    Super interesting. I had some idea of some things you could use your free hand for with Rapier but this goes into more detail than I was aware of. Those more detailed bucklers are awesome looking bits of kit. Would be cool to see a partnered demo of some of the techniques you can pull off with those. I've only seen the early plain surface ones demoed before.

  • @ariphaos
    @ariphaos Год назад

    When I was introduced to the SCA, 'Florentine' was called 'suicide style'.
    But it was fun.

  • @SrGundisalvus
    @SrGundisalvus Год назад

    Awesome video! I love the topic of exploration of the weapons and styles of the era
    Also i'm eager to play En garde!

  • @shotgunridersweden
    @shotgunridersweden Год назад

    For gloves: i took part in a rapier tournament where several people wore spes heavies on their off hand, using it like a small buckler, as it was not disallowed according to the rules

  • @BidwellRunner
    @BidwellRunner 4 месяца назад

    Lantern blew my mind. Also thought #8 was going to be something piratey like a flintlock pistol or those little ship axes

  • @pearceelliott7855
    @pearceelliott7855 Год назад

    Two things (and I unfortunately can't recall where I have seen either) - I believe I saw or read about a lantern that had some sort of door or flap that could be opened or closed while the lantern was held in one hand so you could not only shine the light at your opponent, but you could flash it on or off.
    I recall reading or seeing something about using your hat. Depending on the time and place, they may have had rather large and sturdy hats that could be used in a similar way to the cloak.

  • @Tobascodagama
    @Tobascodagama Год назад

    En Garde! is brilliant. It's short but sweet, and feels just like playing an Errol Flynn or Zorro movie. Tons of fun.

  • @JackEspadas
    @JackEspadas Год назад

    My man that "heavy dagger" there is something I need

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE Год назад

    Thanks for the video ⚔️

  • @allmachtsdaggl5109
    @allmachtsdaggl5109 Год назад +1

    Sidesword and buckler is very cool. I got the complex hilted one from Black Fencer, so unlike with an arming sword, i do not need to protect my hand as much with the buckler. Makeing it much more free to be used on its own, to pary whilste attacking with the sidesword and even to bash with the rim (wich you should not to with full force in sparring).

    • @JainaSoloB312
      @JainaSoloB312 Год назад +2

      Oooh how are you finding the Black Fencer complex hilt Sidesword? I've been looking at that one for a while.

    • @allmachtsdaggl5109
      @allmachtsdaggl5109 Год назад

      @@JainaSoloB312 I am quite happy with it. It is fitted perfectly, is light and nimble, can do the thrustplay of a rapier and also has umpf in the cut. Also i think it is a beauty

  • @KebaRPG
    @KebaRPG 4 месяца назад

    Cloak to bind the opponent's sword is what my HEMA Instructor taught me; and Lantern would be Cast Iron/Steel Kerosene Lantern which you spill the oil on the opponent and ignite.

  • @Berengier817
    @Berengier817 Год назад

    #7 hard2hurt loves the flashlight. Never dawned on me they would use it as a weapon in the past too

  • @meteorplum
    @meteorplum Год назад +1

    I don't think the Three Musketeer book has our heroes use all eight forms of off-hand gear, but it's close. And speaking of the Three Musketeers, it's worth noting that the effective use of a lantern to blind the opponent works best with a dark lantern, which we got to see in the Michael York version for sure.

  • @Memorixt
    @Memorixt Год назад

    Very good list, loved to watch and listen. Though you mentioned shortly, you didn’t count to your list: a pistol. ...And you didn’t mention at all, though on see was quite clearly used: a hatchet. Moreover: a stick, and a scabbard. ...But I suppose you didn’t mention these, as they were not (or at least less?) mentioned by manuscripts about fencing of the era (?).

  • @bassemb
    @bassemb Год назад

    "A case of rapiers / falchions / what not" is completely new to me. Wow!

  • @richardjstuart3978
    @richardjstuart3978 Год назад

    I saw a woman at a Ren fair with a Gauntlet that was made up to be a puppet. Trim off the dressing and it was really just a heavy leather gauntlet, but with the puppet trappings it did add an element of distraction. Brilliant really.