Cool. I love seeing older arts practiced openly like this, you can see the resemblance between this and Jiujitsu, judo, and of course aikido but it’s actually pressure tested and works well. Samurai armor battles also is my new fav thing.
Wow that's awesome. They really captured the samurai spirit and all its glory on this demo. So fun to watch and see the many root techniques for so many off shoot martial arts that incorporate modernized Form of these techniques. Very nice showcase of traditional art Form, Oss.
This and Daito ryu were the main systems that were combined to form aikido. . You can really see it in this .. and you can really see how stylized modern aikido is ... great Demo.
No. Ueshiba studied with Takeda Sokaku for 23 years before going off and doing his own thing. Aikido as we know it today came along later. Before Takeda, the name "Aikijujutsu" was never used. Daito Ryu is the first and only legitimate Aikijujutsu art there is.
All true except for the fact that other legitimate Aikijujutsu schools did exist, other than Diato Ryu, because other samurai families paid for the instruction. Yoshida Kataro (responsible for introducing Morehi Ushiba to Sokaku Tekada) for example was one of Sokaku's top students and uses the term Aikijujutsu in his Shidare Yanagi Ryu system. The modern Nami Ryu is an offshoot of this system and also has legitimate right to call their Jujutsu, Aikijujutsu. And there are others....
There are no other documented schools of Aikijujutsu before Takeda Sokaku. Period. Just because other "samurai families" paid for instruction doesn't mean anything. Shidare Yanagi Ryu also has no documentation before Yoshida (who was a daito ryu man). There is a huge thread on Ebudo discussing this. There was a diary of Yoshida that mentions him training in Muso Yanagi ryu jujutsu, Yoshin ryu hibukijutsu and Daito ryu aikijujutsu. No mention of family style. Also, many members of Koryu have looked at the Yanagi Ryu kata and it doesn't look like Koryu weapons at all. The thought is that Yoshida created his family style based off the different arts that he learned, including daito ryu. So is it legitimate? Depends on what you mean. It's not a Koryu, but neither is Daito Ryu. It is known for giants (Kodo, sagawa, ueshiba, etc) like Daito Ryu is? Nope. Just Yoshida Kotaro. All the other "Aikijujutsu" arts have more or less been created by westerners who have trained in other arts and formulated their own. They are completely absent of aiki and don't even resemble Koryu jujutsu in their training. So pretty much everyone who matters doesn't recognize them as legitimate, Nami Ryu included.
I have seen much better in DanZan Ryu jujitsu. Note: Aikido is the new kid on the block of martial arts and was invented after WW1. The more fluid styles of classic jujitsu is where those moves in the video come from. Jujitsu is NOT just grappling. Brazilian Jujitsu is not one of the original styles, it was invented after WW1 as well. I know that may be surprise to most people.
Indeed, but in real situations samurais used to enter tehniques by striking first with fists or various weapons,those days people would rarely fight without a knife or short sword at least . Of course it would rarely work without strikes or kicks. It will rarely work trough force (trying to force the tehnique). Also it's a lot about leverage, when in defence, it's easier to apply traditional tehniques, because the average people will be out of balance after a missed strike or kick. But even then, you should strike or kick before entering a tehnique. Martial arts are not only about tehnique, but strategy too. The ideea that I must launch a strike in order to distract or make my enemy flinch is the strategic part. Otherwise it would be impossible for a smaller guy to defeat a much larger opponent. And yes, it sounds complicated and it takes years to make such things work. But of course, in the Feudal Era boys started to train for a samurai career at the age of 12. So at 18-20 they were ready to apply such tehniques on the battlefield. Why would you invest months or years in such complicated arts in the modern era? Because in the proces you will change as a human being.
Relax, this is just a demo. Combat techniques are taught in kata and drills, randori, sparing and more resistance added in training with experience. Very different from sport fighting. Many ot these techniques would get the fighter disqualified or severely injure someone.
Dude, are you on shrooms? Its a DEMO which means you want to show something to a public. What directly means the people giving the demo must work together. Does the definition of a demo sound more clear to you now??? Or are you the typical wanker that goes around on toutube commenting about things he knows shit about?
Modern martial arts still have grounds in tradition. What works, works. And what doesn’t obviously won’t. We are in different times, different clothes, and martial applications of these combative arts need to change to fit scenarios.
The warrior mentality is to change and adapt. Martial arts, litterally warlike combative arts, should be allowed to evolve and change. Tradition is nice, and everyone should learn about it. However, efficiency of the applicable techniques needs to be called into question and pressure tested.
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Cool. I love seeing older arts practiced openly like this, you can see the resemblance between this and Jiujitsu, judo, and of course aikido but it’s actually pressure tested and works well. Samurai armor battles also is my new fav thing.
Wow that's awesome. They really captured the samurai spirit and all its glory on this demo. So fun to watch and see the many root techniques for so many off shoot martial arts that incorporate modernized Form of these techniques. Very nice showcase of traditional art Form, Oss.
very good.
I like how they keep it as close to the Japanese culture as possible.
This and Daito ryu were the main systems that were combined to form aikido. .
You can really see it in this .. and you can really see how stylized modern aikido is ... great Demo.
No. This Dutch stuff did not exist when Ueshiba founded Aikido.
Yo Inter its older then aikido....
No. Ueshiba studied with Takeda Sokaku for 23 years before going off and doing his own thing. Aikido as we know it today came along later. Before Takeda, the name "Aikijujutsu" was never used. Daito Ryu is the first and only legitimate Aikijujutsu art there is.
All true except for the fact that other legitimate Aikijujutsu schools did exist, other than Diato Ryu, because other samurai families paid for the instruction. Yoshida Kataro (responsible for introducing Morehi Ushiba to Sokaku Tekada) for example was one of Sokaku's top students and uses the term Aikijujutsu in his Shidare Yanagi Ryu system. The modern Nami Ryu is an offshoot of this system and also has legitimate right to call their Jujutsu, Aikijujutsu. And there are others....
There are no other documented schools of Aikijujutsu before Takeda Sokaku. Period. Just because other "samurai families" paid for instruction doesn't mean anything. Shidare Yanagi Ryu also has no documentation before Yoshida (who was a daito ryu man). There is a huge thread on Ebudo discussing this.
There was a diary of Yoshida that mentions him training in Muso Yanagi ryu jujutsu, Yoshin ryu hibukijutsu and Daito ryu aikijujutsu. No mention of family style. Also, many members of Koryu have looked at the Yanagi Ryu kata and it doesn't look like Koryu weapons at all. The thought is that Yoshida created his family style based off the different arts that he learned, including daito ryu.
So is it legitimate? Depends on what you mean. It's not a Koryu, but neither is Daito Ryu. It is known for giants (Kodo, sagawa, ueshiba, etc) like Daito Ryu is? Nope. Just Yoshida Kotaro.
All the other "Aikijujutsu" arts have more or less been created by westerners who have trained in other arts and formulated their own. They are completely absent of aiki and don't even resemble Koryu jujutsu in their training. So pretty much everyone who matters doesn't recognize them as legitimate, Nami Ryu included.
Great demo
Super demo mannen!
I have seen much better in DanZan Ryu jujitsu. Note: Aikido is the new kid on the block of martial arts and was invented after WW1. The more fluid styles of classic jujitsu is where those moves in the video come from. Jujitsu is NOT just grappling. Brazilian Jujitsu is not one of the original styles, it was invented after WW1 as well. I know that may be surprise to most people.
great demo !!!
Great demo.
Do you have a world Federation?
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Anything is possible with a compliant opponent
Indeed, but in real situations samurais used to enter tehniques by striking first with fists or various weapons,those days people would rarely fight without a knife or short sword at least . Of course it would rarely work without strikes or kicks. It will rarely work trough force (trying to force the tehnique). Also it's a lot about leverage, when in defence, it's easier to apply traditional tehniques, because the average people will be out of balance after a missed strike or kick. But even then, you should strike or kick before entering a tehnique. Martial arts are not only about tehnique, but strategy too. The ideea that I must launch a strike in order to distract or make my enemy flinch is the strategic part. Otherwise it would be impossible for a smaller guy to defeat a much larger opponent. And yes, it sounds complicated and it takes years to make such things work. But of course, in the Feudal Era boys started to train for a samurai career at the age of 12. So at 18-20 they were ready to apply such tehniques on the battlefield. Why would you invest months or years in such complicated arts in the modern era? Because in the proces you will change as a human being.
tim Manageer training like this is unrealistic. A competitive fighter would destroy these guys.
Relax, this is just a demo. Combat techniques are taught in kata and drills, randori, sparing and more resistance added in training with experience. Very different from sport fighting. Many ot these techniques would get the fighter disqualified or severely injure someone.
Dude, are you on shrooms? Its a DEMO which means you want to show something to a public. What directly means the people giving the demo must work together. Does the definition of a demo sound more clear to you now??? Or are you the typical wanker that goes around on toutube commenting about things he knows shit about?
Fudoshin Ryu was concocted in Holland.... why the fake Japanese name and paraphernalia
Cause it's heavily based on Japanese martial arts?
Not much Aiki going on but whatever
これは現代のものじゃないの？
Modern martial arts still have grounds in tradition. What works, works. And what doesn’t obviously won’t. We are in different times, different clothes, and martial applications of these combative arts need to change to fit scenarios.
The warrior mentality is to change and adapt. Martial arts, litterally warlike combative arts, should be allowed to evolve and change. Tradition is nice, and everyone should learn about it. However, efficiency of the applicable techniques needs to be called into question and pressure tested.
What a shame it’s not real but practiced.
Lame