I bought an EXPIRED helmet?! Let's talk about it...
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Join me as we talk about my new helmet, as well as how the helmet I bought just a few months ago is already expired.
*Also, the audio while moving is from my Cardo (except at (02:21 when I said I'm trying the external mic). The audio at a stop is my external mic. I think I'll keep recording through my cardo for future videos... :)
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I like the talking. It's 2am and I'm in the garage tinkering around on MY '17 Rebel while listening to ya on the t.v. out here. I picked up my phone to say that I love that your gloves say to put my phone down😂
I really appreciate the comment! I need to do some more tinkering on my bike, but probably not at 2AM... LOL
5 years is recommended replacement WITH USE. The helmet should be good if it was kept in its box(no UV, chemical exposure) and in a temperature controlled environment(no heat cycling). I'd wear it for at least 3 years.
I heavily debated wearing it longer, and I will keep it as a backup helmet, but after riding in my Shoei I'm convinced the helmet is just too big for me anyway.
All day on the coast, with talking about stuff, whatever you're passionate about in the moment.
Thanks Peter! I definitely want to do a coast trip soon.
Don´t overhink/overtalk things as most Americans do.
1. If you go through a corner without problems, you have counter steered and it is nothing that you need to learn. Concentrate on what others are doing around tou insted and be prepered for them doing just about anything stupid.
Just remember that the fatest line through a corner is exactly the same as the safest line (and you have the most margins to adjust your line if needed).
There are more helpful tips/information that you will find out with more experinace or from good instructors.
2. A new helmet is a new helmet. As long as it has not been stored in direct sunlight it will be fine until the interior falls apart.
Just stumbled across this vid - first one I watched of yours and it was an enjoyable vid. If you've had good success with the company you bought your helmet from, you should contact their customer service and explain what happened with the expiration date. If they're a good company, they'll should replace it without cost to you. BUT since you've ridden with the helmet, perhaps they would only charge you a small fee to return it. Worth a shot as those helmets are still being made and there's no reason to sell you an expired helmet.
The GT920 is discontinued, they have a new model out, the GT930. I thought about contacting the company, but decided against it since the helmet was still technically brand new in its box. The company specifically sells discontinued models and closeouts, so its not too big of a surprise that it arrived expired... I just know I won't purchase helmets from them again haha :)
@@itsmissy_xo - oh gotch. But here's the thing, I've worked for many years in the restaurant industry and my friends and family are always surprised when I ask to talk to the manager. They (friends and fam) don't want to cause a fuss or be a problem and would rather leave and never come back than give the mgr and opportunity to fix the issue. 99/100 the manager will pay for that bad meal and/or the entire check. Sometimes we get a free desert out of it. So my friends and fam are surprised and willing to come back and give them another shot. NONE of that is possible if they slink away.
When I worked the managers always told us waiters, "I would rather pay for 10 meals than have 1 customer leave unhappy and never come back and never have an opportunity to make it right."
And FYI - I'm different than you. I would NEVER expect to buy a new helmet on clearance prices and have it expired. That's unacceptable and they should fix it.
If you don't make them aware of it and don't give them an opportunity to fix it, they'll never know about it.
awesome video! ride the way you ride..safe!!!..you're an inspiration to us safe
riders!...
i just got the same helmet today, except the matte blue, with transition lens. the wind noise is so much better now.
Would be great to see a video on how to start riding.
I would be more than happy to make a video about that if there's enough interest! I haven't made one only because there are so many video out there already :)
I wanted a shoei but after feeling how light the agv was I went with it (was on sale too). I think I'll get the shoei next time.
I've heard that the AGV are pretty noisy, but I've never owned one myself.
@itsmissy_xo It probably is compared to the shoei. I purchased a taller windshield though and that made a world of difference.
5 year service life. A helmet doesn't deteriorate sitting in its box unless it was stored in a hot enclosure.
Cool vid, I subbed, I ride and make vids too, keep on rolling! 🦾🫡👍🐉🥷🏽💚
I didn't think helmet really expire, they do wear out though. You sweat in it, you flex it over an over shoving your head in it, the outside gets UV damage. In a box on a shelf somewhere, none of that is happening yet. It's dry, in a dark place an not being flexed. So I have no issue buying an new in the box older helmet. I count it's age based on when someone started wearing it.
My current helmet is getting old so needed replaced this year. The pavement jumped up an bit me in the face a few weeks ago so now I don't have a choice. Mind you I wear a small so turnover is fairly fast. You wearing an XS, those set on the shelf a long time. Almost every time you see outgoing models on sale, it's just size XS left. So you will get better deals on helmets than most of us, but age is going to be a problem constantly.
As for what kind of videos to make? Stick to stuff that feels like you. Make the videos you want to make, don't try to make what you think people want. Making RUclips videos takes a lot out of you an it's much easier if you stick to what you like. It also shows in the results. The videos I have made over the years for the sake of making a video, no one watched. The videos I made because I wanted to, most are still getting consistent views years later.
I had the same thought process, as well! That it didn't matter how long it sat on a shelf, it was new until worn. But some have made a point that even over time, since styrofoam is a petroleum-based product, it will degrade regardless of use or storage conditions. Plus my scorpion was too big (it was a small) and too noisy :)
My new Shoei helmet has a MFG date of 02/2024 so I have many years to enjoy this helmet! I will most likely not buy a helmet online again unless it's to replace a helmet I've already worn/tried on. But the Scorpion is still cool!
Thank you for the comment as always, and the advice! Much appreciated.
@@itsmissy_xo It seems like they are trying to use logic attached to the tire industry, but skipping some details. There's a general 7 year age out rule for tires, but that assumes they are in the weather an touching the ground. A spare tire sitting, uninflated in the dark trunk of a car, still looks new long after the tires on the car have dry rotted away in a junk yard. It's the reason spares on the back of jeeps have covers. It's the reason RVers cover their tires when parked, an sometimes jack them off the ground. Fire engines sit inside most of their lives an are commonly sold for scrap still on the tires it was delivered new with.
Now I am not saying tire don't age at all when not outside, just that it's slower. I would bet a helmet is the same. I would think if a helmet that was bought an in use right away for several years, if it's still not to old, the one that sat in a box twice as long isn't either. So the set amount from manufacturing date seems problematic. But I would like to see a test done on it. I am just guessing. The hard part would be finding two unused helmets that were made exactly the same way, 7 years apart. There is a British channel that does motorcycle gear testing, that would be right up their alley.
I do agree, you need a helmet that fits well.
Fully agree. 💯
@@RebelCowboysRVs Yea, like I said, some say its a way for the helmet companies to make more money. Regardless of the validity or the 7-year-rule, getting a newer helmet (that actually fits) is something I won't budge on haha :) Gotta protect the noggin!
I think the plastic will eventually get brittle as well on older helmets, at least that is what I have heard:)
I am looking to get a new helmet soon too, so this is helpful thank you!
The insta video quality is great! Ride safe ✌🏻💜
A good friend of mine was wearing an old helmet and she crashed and the outer shell literally shattered into pieces...
Thank you for the comment! 💛
You must have a Great fitting helmet! I've never taken a nap in one of mine 😊 You obviously made a terrific choice.. See you in the next one!
Bahah! To be fair I wasn't feeling well last weekend so it was more of an exhaustion nap than anything, but I for sure took at least a 30 minute nap with that helmet on 🤣Thanks for the comment!
Your helmet should be fine as long as it feels right.
Your style of commentary is refreshing. Just do what you feel is relevant and will keep coming back.
You should lose your doubts because you are better at this than you think.
Also, practice emergency braking often until you are no longer afraid of it. It can make an emergency situation feel like ''no big deal".
I also own a Shoei RF-SR. Mine fits great, snug all around with no pinching. I love the helmet.
It's been wonderful for me! So happy with my purchase. It was manufactured in February 2024 so I have plenty of life left with it!
So yeah, ‘saving money’ on head protection makes total sense. And ‘theoretically as good’ is a totally safe assumption.
Hemet I would buy new. My own experience is my foam started falling out the top of my 15 year old SHOEI. So I think there is something to that 5 year thing.....
I looked at some helmets a few years back, they were not Motorcycle helmets, but Motorsport helmets, for racing cars... I wanted a new one for Rallying, autocross etc, and I noticed the one handed to me to try on was 4 years old already... I didn't get that Helmet, I brought one from another company that keeps running out of stock because the entire Rally community uses them regularly, so have to replenish the supplies quite often. unlike the first company that deals mostly with the Dirt track people (nowhere near as big as the Rally Community) I later found that this was common for helmets from that company to be nearing expiry when purchased, as they buy in excessive bulk to save money. The big problem is, that MotorSport New Zealand checks them, and they will not pass scrutineering once they are five years old, so if you pack up the race car and drag it across the country, pay the entry fee and all that, just to find out you cannot race because the Brand New Helmet is expired!
Are they the same for cars and bikes?
kinda ridiculous. The styrofoam is basically the same they used for ages. bycicle and some dirt helmet manufacturers created different paddding types.
Ride safe
you definitely ride much better... maybe it's time for compilation of the progress
Thank you! Eventually I'll get one together. I've literally only ridden a couple hundred miles so I have many more to go! Maybe I'll make a 6 month or 1 year riding compilation
A helmet can stay on shelf for like 10 years some say 20 years in a temperature and humidity controlled place
Also no helmet is that quiet, that you can ride without ear protection in. With the riding winds, speeds, and winds in general you'll always hear something.
So yeah, never ride without ear protection. It'll save you from getting Tinnitus and still allow you to hear. 😄
Oh, definitely! I had my earplugs in my backpack, I just wanted to see how quiet it was compared to my Scorpion (a lot!) but after an hour and a half, my ears were not happy haha
My HJC is
This video just popped up in my feed. I'm glad it did. I just purchased a close-out helmet not even thinking about the expiration date. It arrives today. It's 245am east coast time. I work night-shift. Anyway I'll post what happens. I see one of the comments posted says it should be ok in an unopened box. We will see.
I appreciate you talking about your experience as a new rider since I can definetly relate. I'm looking foward to your next vids and watching you continue to improve and get more comfortable. Share any tips when you can. Be safe and enjoy!
Enjoy hearing you talk about the ride ! Keep it up and be safe!!!
I had the RF-SR (Cobalt Blue). It's a really good helmet, I never had any issues with it. You will still need ear plugs. But, when I wanted to get a communications system that I didn't have yet, it gave me a justification to upgrade my helmet quite a bit. So I replaced it with the LS2 Advant X Carbon modular Bluetooth. You won't need ear plugs unless you are on the interstate or at least I haven't needed them up to about 60. My justification for an additional $800 helmet was not that great, but if you ever upgrade, it's definitely the one to go with. It is a level of quality of above Shoei, but we are not talking about a big difference. You would have to be very used to Shoei to notice the difference.
On to expiration dates. I have watched just about every piece of information on why helmets expire and the most cogent reason given is that even if the box is never opened and its still sitting on the shelf, the combination of materials used to make up the helmet begin to degrade to the point at which the motorcycle helmet manufacturer no longer wants responsibility. They believe this enough so that helmets that expire on store shelves of reputable motorcycle equipment stores return them to the manufacturer or dispose of them. I rather suspect most keep pretty close to just in time inventory. From my perspective, if the store and/or the manufacturer is willing to eat the cost of that, then some aspect of it must be true. Now once it's on your head, then I 100% believe the eps will degrade. I am surprised they can make it last 5 years. Some combination of body oil, salt, sweat, road substances which could literally be anything, heat, cold, wet dry, being left in the garage in the summer, winter, yeah, they are degrading. In good helmets there are different levels of eps which do different jobs in a crash. If any of those degrade so does your protection.
Normally, I don't mention people's gear unless they specifically request feedback, but since you showed your gloves. They are cute, but you want to look for gloves that have the pinky finger attached to the next finger by something pretty substantial, if you hit the ground in those, your little finger is likely going to need to be wired back into place. Looking for that requirement will probably get you into a much more substantial pair of gloves. You want to look for CE level 2 and you want the level 2 that includes the additional KP (Knuckle Protection) cert and preferably gauntlets.