I-400 - Guide 238
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2021
- The I-400 class, submarines of the Imperial Japanese Navy, are today's subject.
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www.amazon.co.uk/I-400-Japans-Secret-Submarine-Objective/dp/1902109457
www.amazon.co.uk/Japanese-Submarine-Aircraft-Mushroom-magazine/dp/8391632725
www.amazon.co.uk/Imperial-Japanese-Submarines-1941-45-Vanguard/dp/1846030900
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Pinned post for Q&A :)
What was Fischer's biggest, actually built or seriously considered design/doctrinal mistake? Was it the K-class and fleet submarines?
If, for whatever reason, Britain and the USA went to war in the 1930s, who would've had the better navy?
In world of warships there is a Russian ship called the pyotr velikiy I've been unable to find any information on this vessel is it a paper design? Or was it an actual project?
What do you think of the fake ship h45?? If it was possible, would it be as useless as flipped stugg says it would be?? Keep up the good work. J
Could you make a Video about the Carrier Capacity or the Radar?
"For millenia, man has faced a quandry: The desire to hit someone, but they're really far away. This has lead progressively to the development of: The thrown rock, the thrown, pointy rock, the far thrown rock, the _really_ far thrown rock, the flying pointy rock on a stick, the refined pointy rock on a stick, the spicy refined rock powered by fire, and, by the end of WWII, the happy fun times refined spicy rock transported by the big metal bird."
Words can't describe how much I celebrate this description. It reminded me of a scene from The Expanse, where one of the main characters says to her grandson while discussing meteorites: "I'm not scared of rocks, I'm scared of people who throw rocks.", to which the grandson responds: "But you can't throw rocks that big!"
Haha yeees. I absolutely love that show
It puts Einstein's "WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones" in a different perspective
I want this on a shirt!
Ahhhhh... Chrisjen Avasarala. So good to know she's appreciated!
The Drachinian smart assery has been somewhat diminished as of late, presumably due to the volume of content he's had to put out. It's good to see it back :-)
A terrific anthropological analysis of weapons' development at range.
i have to agree, i want Drach to do a whole video like that lol
@@RedtailFox1
Try "Ugg guide to floaty log"
Yeah, I'd like an exhaustive series on the developmental history of throwing rocks.
@@FallenPhoenix86 i did, but the echo'y Audio made it hard to follow
It's a bit sad just how simply the last few tens of thousands of years of human development can be summarised, though
the Japanese navy: where anything can be an aircraft-carrier if you try hard enough
Not necessarily a bad idea. Aircraft were extremely useful.
Or carry a bayonet.
@@mogaman28
That was more of a Japanese Army thing.
The I-400 class so often overshadows the, while not as large, still impressive I-13 and I-14. The former being the deadliest loss of a submarine in history
the French navy: where anything can be a heavy cruiser if you try hard enough
0:57 "And, by the end of WW2, the happy fun-times refined spicy rock, transported by big metal bird."
AKA Buckets of sunshine.
Uranium, the ultimate forbidden spice.
@@christopherconard2831 Buckets of Instant Sunshine -- that was the term of art when I, a long time ago, worked on some minor parts of the British independent happy fun-times refined spicy rocks establishment. The French equivalent was, IIRC, "a device which is exploding".
@@TBone-bz9mp If we're not supposed to eat it, why do they call it "urani-yum"?
@@aurictech4378
True men don’t eat Uranium, no a real man smokes his meat with it.
0:34 - 1:03 'Short history of missile weapons for Neanderthals' ; narrated by Drachinifel.
lol
Basic human tech, we have gone from small slow rock to smaller stupidly fast rock, and will eventually proceed to small insanely fast rock.
Humanity, figuring out how to kill sh*t with rocks from the stone age to the space age.
Had to pause after that opening to have a fit of laughter Drach, I almost passed out🤣🤣🤣 thank you I needed that. Now back to the video.
Me too lmao!
Spicy rock powered by fire!
Yea, it was great
Cracking stuff
I almost spit out my coffee ☕️ in laughter from that opening!
🤣🤣🤣
The concept of using a big metal fish to launch a metal bird that drops spicy rocks was interesting but not quite viable because the metal birds were fairly vulnerable and couldn't drop their spicy rocks exactly where they wanted if someone else was throwing rocks at them. Some additional developments would be needed. Two of those were already being made elsewhere: flying fire tubes and happy fun times refined spicy rocks, and it wouldn't be that much longer before the rockmetal brain would come around.
Don't degrade the Machine Spirits like that who knows if your car will start tomorrow
Happy fun-time refined spicy rocks!
@@pilferedserenity1570 Ave Omnissiah.
@@MrBlueBurd0451 What do you do if the Omnissiah makes the astronomicon flip you the bird?
Warfare explained like this makes sense..... as much as war does in the first place.
"We had sticks. Two sticks and a rock for the whole platoon. And we had to share the rock." - Sargeant Major Avery Johnson
Is that what the ladies like?
I don’t know, but he brought a motivational device.
My late father-in-law, uss queenfish, left us some pictures. One of them is a picture of two of these monsters at Pearl Harbor. You have to see them alongside the American boats to appreciate how big they were.
Yep, I have a model of one that scales up nicely next to the Ohio-class and Typhoon models.
I'd still rather use a pointy rock than Mark 14 torpedo :V
A rock has a better chance of detonating than Mark 14 torpedoes.
Honestly, the MkXIV has more kinetic energy. 😏
@@luisnunes2010 but you can carry loads of rocks for each mk 14
After Admiral King found out about the failures of the mark 14 they were promptly fixed.
@@calvingreene90 Not that promptly. Even he had to go there personally after some useless correspondence.
"Happy fun-time spicy rocks" my new favorite Drachism
>Spicy Refined Rock powered by Fire
>Happy Fun-Times Spicy Rock transported by Big Metal Bird
Already a great video in the first minute.
Stanley Kubrick NEEDED that for "Doctor Strangelove"!
I've been lucky enough to visit Udvar-Hazy museum in Virginia. They have one of the aircraft designed to be carried on the i-400.
The I-400 was a forerunner to the modern cruise missile carrying submarine.
Only in the sense that Kamakazis were for runners to anty sniping missiles….oh look…
www.history.navy.mil/content/history/museums/nnam/explore/collections/aircraft/t/tdr-1-edna-iii.html
Incidentally parts including one of its flathead engines that were referred to as marginally operational, remains identified as part of its camera and transmitter and other radio components were recovered from a Japanese army airfield near one of Mitsubishi’s plants. So yes Japans at least in part knew about allied efforts in remote guidance technology. Never mind that by that point Germany had at least informed Japan about Allied use of disposable airplane bombs.
arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/8.7117
…. www.acdd.com/manufacturers/osprey-publishing/american-guided-missiles-of-world-war-ii.html
Sorry ment that to read Anti Shiping missle not Anty sniping my phone has a diferent Google account from my PC due to it being a work phone
In other words, it was an early version of an SSGN, or nuclear powered guided missile submarine, without the nuclear power.
@@taraswertelecki3786 The designation for such is SSGK.
Sort of, but missiles became the preferred means of blowing up the other guy. It's more accurate to describe this as a developmental dead-end, as we don't really have any submersible aircraft carriers around.
Once, during some down time in the field while in the US Army and after simulating grenades with rocks, several of us made up the "Operator's Manual for M1 Rock" . This included methods of employment, how to set up a range and zero your rock, overlapping fields of throw, how to PMCS your rock, function checking your rock (see employment), and so on. As soon as I heard your introductory comments it took me back to that day. Good times!
Submarine: exists
Japan: There is a plane for that.
they make battleships carry planes too, for air strikes..
Or a bayonet!
if they can put planes on destroyer, they will probably put one too.
@@yansuki4240 The US put airplanes on some Fletcher DDs.
@@johnbuchman4854, really? What were they were designated as?
That has got to be the best opening EVER! Drach, you outdid yourself. Well done!
Bad idea? Yea, probably. But I’ve always had a soft spot for these boats.
Interesting that both sides were prepared to use biological weapons against each other at the end of the war since the US had developed chemical sprayer attachments for the P47N models.
Grim as it seems, the bombs were probably the least deadly way to end the war
"In order to hit you from very far away, I will load up the largest quantity of Drachisms I've ever heard"
I have to say that is one of the best opening paragraphs I've heard in a long time
I hope some sweet day to hear your (then) historical take on the Zumwalt class "Visually Offensive Surface Combatant" and the comedy of errors that was its procurement. Perhaps a side by side comparison with French Pre-Dreadnoughts.
HMS Captain would probably be closer.
I personally think the Zumwalt class looks AWESOME. Futuristic and advanced. She would be an amazing ship if the procurement system could afford, you know, AMMO for its guns.
@@CastleBravo023 the problem with the ammo is that the original price (which was considered affordable) was based on a large stockpile of ammo. As they reduced the orders for ships, so too did the order for ammo.
If you're selling over 50,000 trucks per month, it's pretty easy to justify the over one billion dollar cost of development and recoup the cost over the next 10yrs of selling that truck.
If you're selling only ever selling 100 limited edition trucks, well you're not just going to write off the cost of developing it.
@@thundercactus oh, I understand completely. That is also the reason for the expensive price of each destroyer. I am simply frustrated that such an amazing class of ships is not getting a fair shake.
@@CastleBravo023 Ironic that this ship, supposedly designed to replace the Iowas in shore bombardment, has been left without any main gun at all. Seems like this class of ship may be on the same trajectory as the LCS.
Metal rock, carried by metal bird, transforms into bucket of sunshine.
Japan: everything can carry planes if you really want it.
I can see a slight flaw in their planning here.
Tojo: "Ok, we blow up the Panama Canal and then the US can't bring troops over from Europe to attack us!"
Junior IJA transport officer:"you do realize America has 400,000 miles of railroad across it's continent right?"
Junior IJN transport officer:"Has anyone thought about the Suez Canal?"
Was more "blow up the Panama Canal and the USN will need another 6 months to replace any losses"
the I-400 submarine is such an interesting concept. To bad theirs no surviving example.
Yeah I wish they hadn't sunk them 😒 its such a shame
Well, imagine a carrier, but it's really slow, only carries 3 undersized planes that can't dogfight, is vulnerable unless hidden, can only dive like 100 feet and can't dive quickly lest it wreck its aircraft, and is fairly difficult to maintain due to straining the technology of its time to its limit. The i-400 could only really even hypothetically work under complete surprise conditions, and largely only for propaganda attack purposes (like the Doolittle Raid), since 3 planes won't do much. The Japanese probably dealt more damage with their "just send hot air balloons with bombs across the ocean on the jetstream and hope they go somewhere good" attacks than these would have done.
If the idea were a good one in a modern context, we would have seen the Soviet Union use them, since they were absolutely in the sort of position where wanting to hide their naval assets from a big scary American navy was their top priority. Instead, they went for ballistic missile submarines... which honestly, share a lot of commonality with the kamikaze form of seiran the i-400 was going to use, but with the added benefit of vertical launch and not making so many design compromises.
@@WraithMagus ; Of course they cannot dogfight, they are dive bombers.
@@FirstDagger Well, I'm sure that excuse would have worked if you loaded up a carrier with nothing but dive bombers. "Sorry, enemy navy, you can't shoot us, we're all dive bombers!"
@@WraithMagus Actually, today a sub with drones would be nice to have. Subs have a huge recon and special Ops function. The ability to launch airborne drones, armed or not could be useful.
That intro..... 🤣 oh, Boat Daddy, please don't ever change.... 😁
The projectile summary at the beginning was a lot of fun ;)
I recall reading a report by the American officer who sailed one of the the I-400s across the Pacific to the US after it was captured at the end of the war. He completed the transit on the surface since the hull was not completely watertight, especially around the large hangar door area which took a pounding from heavy seas and warped sufficiently to let in water.
It’s almost as if the Japanese didn’t fully think this through.
@@AdmRose It was a suicide mission.
And yet it was deemed great submarine by the same people, who prepared the report. It was sunk to prevent access of soviet specialists to it. Who knows how much the collected data helped in development of Grayback and Halibut.
@@TheArklyte Who cares if they also think its a good submarine? Everything not American is bad /sarcastic sound ensues.
Seriously tho, me reading a lot of those American assessment reports (things like the Yamato Gun test by the US) and most ppl just quote the bad parts despite the conclusion of the American report deemed that it performed sufficiently or higher that their US equivalent
@@rimu-runech.565 Report doesn't say it's a good submarine, on the contrary, it says it's far from great as mentioned by guy above. It's their follow up actions that speak of the contrary. If I-400 was crap, they wouldn't have dedicated extra time and specialists to study them and wouldn't have sunk them to deny that information to soviets.
I-400 likely became the basis of early US cruiser missile subs.
finally after a few years my request is here
you forgot the self returning throwing stick (boomerang) 😉
The IJN also wanted to throw these subs at the US navy and they would automaticly return .
Wows players shake in their boots knowing this will inevitably be added to the game after subs go live.
Prop as part of the arp lineup. The i-402 is the heroship in that series after all
..they still haven't been talked out of that "will be disaster"?
Wargaming: "Submarine carriers? *What could possibly go wrong?!"*
@@supsup335 i-401* iona is the main character
@@Nightdare nope and they are now adding soviet carriers
Submarine....aircraft carrier
*[Ace Combat Alicorn flashbacks]*
ONE MILLION LIVES
SALVATION
@@KarlArty THIS BOAT HAS THE MEANS TO END THIS HIDEOUS WAR, IN A DEFINITIVE AND ELEGANT MANNER
GLOWING ROCK IN A METAL CONTAINER POWERED BY ANOTHER GLOWING ROCK IN A HOT CHAMBER AND SHOT OUT BY ANOTHER ROCK IN A LONG ROD
CRISP. WHITE. SHEETS.
CRISP. WHITE. SHEEEEETSTSSSSS
Thumbnail: Hey, you, Americans on the small boat! Which way to San Fransisco?
Also, I watched Hunt for Red October again last night. Coincidence?
"The nuclear wessels are at Alameda. But vhere is Alameda?"
@@johnladuke6475 "Excuse me sir, we are looking for the nuclear vessels, NUCLEAR VESSELS"
@@lukum55 "My *GOD* man, drilling holes in his head's not the answer! The artery must be repaired!"
The opening of this could be for Floaty Log.... but the IJN’s large submarines will serve.
You can tell when Drach has been around his Pointy Stick friends for a while.
But what if some screaming maniac comes at you with a punnet of Loganberries?
The 13 dislikes are from the americans that wanted one of them to be saved as a museum ship
The Rock himself approves the use of thrown rocks.
Hey looks it's Iona I-401
Rule 1: Submarines must not attempt to fly.
Rule 2: Aircraft must not attempt to submerge.
Stoned planners: Why not do BOTH? What could possibly go wrong?
"Refined Fun Time Spicy Rocks" Drach, have you been hanging around with Justin Rozniac and the boys over at Well There's Your Problem?
So how do we get the refined fun time spice rocks to the enemy? big metal birds, the floaty below the tube, oh we can use throws new fast bunny pointy boomy rocks.
I want to like that channel so much, but I just couldn't deal with the transition from "good content produced and narrated by one person" to "good content narrated and produced by one person with three random people jumping in every 3 sentences to make unfunny jokes"
as somebody who has looked into these subs pretty extensively, this is bang on, shame you didnt mention 402's conversion to a tanker though
SALVATION-
Oh, whoops, wrong submarine carrier.
CRISP WHITE SHEETS
"Happy fun times refined spicy rock." I want one for a night light.
A truly beautiful intro.
Now to get myself off the floor and breathing again.
The boat that got me into history :)
Arpeggio of Blue Steel? Haha.
It made me bust it got laughing every time he said: "Happy fun Time refined spicy rocks"
Intro: Cave wall painting
Me: Ok, where is this going
Drach: proceeds to give best intro ever
Me: This is why I subscribe!
That intro had me in stitches! Wonderful!
It looks to me like having refined spicy rocks is an advantage
I absolutely love Drachs humor! This opening was hilarious!
I like drach's definition for weaponry; and he's got a point: *rocks*
i liked the evolution of weaponized rocks, very interested about further development of this weapon
The moral of this story? Beware any weapons system prefaced Happy Fun Times Spicy. For example:
* Happy Fun Times Spicy .457 Magnum.
* Happy Fun Times Spicy Kosher Main Battle Tank
* Happy Fun Times Spicy first wife.
Great start to the show, sir.
Heaven forbid if the ROK and DPRK both develop their own versions of the Happy Fun Times Spicy Kimchi-San DMZ Blower-Upper Thingy!
The pointy rock on a stick line had me laughing so hard I started coughing.
Petition to refer to bombs/shells as spicy rocks for all future videos.
When you think about it, rocks are the foundation of our entire civilization.
I can't believe I am saying this but I actually see these as a potentially useful weapon. Not for there intended role mind you, these submarines do not possess enough aircraft to attack hardened targets, but imagine if you had a few I 400's operating at the center of a net of B type submarines using scout planes to locate convoys for the I 400 to strike.
First you use the submarines to locate the convoy, you can then hit the convoy with the dive bombers to either weaken the escort or perhaps slow the convoy down, then close in with the submarines to finish it off from below.
Or Just launch torpedos instead
@@marrvynswillames4975 The use of aircraft based commerce raiders would greatly increase the range with which a submarine could threaten convoys. Additionally the use of aircraft commerce raiders would force convoys to retain notable anti-aircraft defenses. Finally aircraft working in concert with submarines could confuse the escorts which could either group up to provide an anti-aircraft net for the convoy or break off to chase the attacking submarines but not both unless significant numbers were posted.
"Happy-fun-time-refined-spicy-rock carried by metal bird."
I think I woke the whole neighborhood up laughing at that.
I love the photos at 5:00 of US sailors examining captured I-400 subs. "Golly, look at this, Joe! They put a bank vault on their submarine!"
Classic Drach humor, 10/10 would LOL again.
Pity we didn't get to preserve any of these. They'd make a great museum piece no matter how silly they were. And I wouldn't be surprised if the lessons learned from them were used on the first cruise missile submarines given the early cruise missiles were essentially kamikaze robot jet aircraft and just look at the subs equipped with Regulus or SS-N-3s.
Drach, Thank you for responding to requests; It is noted & appreciated, Mate.
This is the first I've heard anything about these subs! Thank you!
Every episode, a gem. I couldn't stop laughing at the start.
2:44 ah yes,
the happy fun times refined spicy rock transported by big sinky floaty metal boat.
You outdid yourself with the humor in the beginning of this one Drach! Seriously, you had me rolling so hard I had to pause the video at the 1 minute mark to get my laughter under control so I could finish the video! Love the style of humor you put in these!
Loved the opening very apt and totally hilarious rewound and played it 3 times ty for that joyful beginning .
Respect for Japanese shipbuilding, 80 years ago.
From s standing start, they created the most advanced submarines.
So advanced, the Americans couldn't even allow the Soviet Union to even glanceat the submarines.
Great video 📹 👍
Another one of your excellent videos. The intro to this one was the best of all of them so far.
I love your extremely, highly technical terminology about long distance weapons!!😁😁👍👍
Very nice, you carried out that rock analogy to conclusion and also far better than I could have.
Brief but to the point. The details are even more amazing. Someday?
Imagine a fleet of these and Surcouf's. Coming to bring an enemy to its knees.... eventually in the future. It might take a while.
The French: Let's put a cruiser gun turret on a submarine! :D
absolutely love the intro
"happy fun time refined spicy rocks" is now the term for fissile materials.
The start reminds me of George Carlins flame thrower bit. Haha
I just posted the same thing. Should’ve known someone would beat me to it 😂
Fascinating ships I always thought. I think I remember somewhere that the pilots were...less than enthused to find they were expected without being asked to become kamikaze's... If they had been asked that was a different thing, but from memory they weren't until after they saw the modifications already being made to their planes.
1 minute in and I already hurt my side from laughing so much lol
Amazing introduction of the topic!
That introduction was just amazing
You really gotta give us some info on the I-201 some time. A solid design.
Happy fun times refined spicy rocks. Gonna have to remember that particular Drachism.
I am watching this as my family drives to the airport on the I-400.
The first minute is absolutely fantastic. The rest is icing on the cake. Cheers
"You dropped your rock." -William Wallace
I think that was the best intro I have heard in along time. Well done sir.
been waiting for this episode. thank you.
Thank you, Drachinifel.
My Father served as an U.S. Army Gunnery Sergent commanding an anti-aircraft battery at the Panama Canal Zone during the earlier part of WW2.
Actually saw the aircraft at the Smithsonian years ago whilst it was being restored.
Its good to see a guide on my favorite class of subs! :) well done
You'd have thought the Japanese would have learned from earlier French and British efforts about the problems of excessively large submarines. While the previously mentioned navy's used guns, the Japanese decided that submarine carriers were the way forward.
Ok that intro was freaking EPIC! “Happy fun times refined spicy rock” love it!
One of these days you're going to have to enable clips because there are so many humorous moments in these videos.
History Channel really needs someone like you. 👍Great video, amazing intro! 🤣😂🙌👏
The introduction of the script is a masterpiece of literature. +100 Internets for your creativity of summarizing millennia of weapon development in one paragraph.
That first minute was legendary.
Drach describing the approximately 500,000 years of human weapons development in about a minute pretty much made my whole day.
That was a wonderful intro. I loved it
I-400 Submarine with 3 aircraft.
Wargaming WoWS: ''Submarine Aircraft carrier you say?''
It will also come as a ARP thingy in the premium store and T10
The Ise/Hyuga BBVs are equipped with the Aichi M6A Seiran. Somehow.
Yeah, I expect to see the I400 class doing air strikes on shipping.
0:57
It's really all about rocks in the end.