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Are Graves still 6' Deep?
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- In this video, I go into detail about the history of graves being six feet deep, and if this is still the current practice of grave diggers across illinois and indiana. This video also goes into detail about why vaults are necessary and why burial vaults were used to begin with. I hope with my videos that I can help educate the general public on the background work that goes into the funeral industry and why burial vaults are often required in most cemeteries.
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Thank you for the " mounds " in the bottom of the grave as it certainly helps us funeral assistance workers remove the lowering tapes from the lowering device when the casket is in the grave . Same in Australia 🇦🇺 appreciate your work 👍
I am a trailer guy, I pay too much attention to how they are built, because I have built many myself....I noticed right away in your other video (the one that this clip is from), that your 'Buggy" as you call it, has a Full Floating truck rear axle, after seeing that it has hydraulic drive to move it into position, it makes total sense! - This would not be my type of work, but I find learning how others are masters of their craft/trade is important...Thank You for everything you do.
Thank you. Well done with respect. ☮
As a former director of a cemetery, graves are typically no deeper than 5' because OSHA requires shoring like they would for a ditch. Technically, a grave is a short narrow ditch and cave ins are common and any depth deeper than 5' could place the grave digger in serious danger. Grave vaults at that level will not typically be affected by frost "heave" as most places in the continental U.S. have a frost depth of 4' or less.
My dad and I dug graves in the 1970's by hand. Shovel, Maddock and digging bar. We always tried to be six feet. but the one cemetery we dug graves in was very rocky, so sometimes they would be a bit shallow.
Barry, the dead is a business plain and simple. I wish there was a channel that explored this and the undertaking business more. It’s something most people don’t know a lot about and we pay a ton of money for their services.
Just like healthcare, awful.
Check @thegooddeath Caitlin Doughty...she touches on the business of funerals.
So just dig your own damn grave then? No one is forcing you to give your loved ones a good burial. This is also nothing like healthcare. Everything you are too lazy to do yourself is a business, genius.
back in the 70's I helped dig graves by hand and we went to about 5 feet unless there was a concrete vault and we always put mounds at the bottom to be able to remove the lowering straps
If the cemetary allows for double depth burials, then a family member's vault can be placed on top of another vault when their time comes. Even then the bottom of the initial grave may be about 7 ft 6 inches to 8 ft deep
They make vaults for two people
I work for a cemetery
@@user-nq4oq9fv8gdouble deep vaults are 4’ high with the lid between 4”-6” so the grave will need to be dug 6..5-7” deep.
Well spoken and informative. Didn't say LIKE once!
I like noticed that.
Love your cross at the bottom!
Also, depending on the soil, without vaults, over decades not only do the chemicals from decomposition “percolate “ to the surface, but skeletal remains begin to “float” up (inches) especially very sandy soil. source: participated in an archaeological excavation of a 15th century cemetery. Taking down the first 18” and smoothing the surface you could clearly see where the bodies were below from the different colors of the soil. Looked like chocolate milkshakes had been poured on the ground in body shapes. Very weird.
Good job mate.
I seem to remember reading that the reason for a 6 foot grave goes back to a king of England sometime making a declaration during one of the bubonic or black plague sort of thing
to prevent people getting sick……….
Basically, they worked out that when healthy people came into contact with sick people they ended up getting sick
And bodies were not being buried deep enough to keep them happy about cleanliness………
But the other reasons you gave are true as well
Thank You Sir! That just means that my loved ones are a little closer to me!
Awesome tutorial You are truly a master and care about your work. Thanks for what you do! My grandfather who was a lfde was always a wilbert vault was the best. !
Without vaults yes 6 feet deep I used to be a grave digger working for a funeral home
Well, graves were also deeper because of freeze and thaw. Depending on your climate, you want the casket or vault deep enough so that it is sitting on soil that is well below the annual freeze and thaw so that the grave does not heave over time. Families always wanted the body within to be below the freeze and thaw line as well.
There is a casket manufacturer in my hometown. We call it the Underground Sofa Co.
Shovel deep I worked for a cemetery when I was in high school and once the backhoe was done we would stick a Shovel down into the hole to check it.
Have you ever heard of jetting the the grave I was going to have a grave ledger installed for myself and I asked what would happen when I pass and they go to lay the ledger back in place. The monument company pours 3 concrete supports (like a post hole size) from the vault capris to just below the surface to keep the ledger from sinking. In my case the monument company said I should make arrangements to have the grave jetted with water to settle the soil.
As beautiful as some Wilbert vaults are, I think I would place it in my living room as a conversation piece.
Waste of money too having them that beautiful. Just needs to be concrete
So do the roots of those large trees affect the burial vaults as they grow? I know that roots can penetrate a whole lot of stuff. Are they able to push a vault as they can a concrete sidewalk, even compromise or penetrate it?
I've wondered about that myself. Also if a large old tree is blown over in a wind storm can the top of the vault be exposed?
When i do a full burial i go shovel deep. Cremations 18-24".
Thanks for your education on this Aus.
I worked as a grave digging for years for the dignity memory. We had our holes 4 1/2 feet.
I briefly worked at a place that had this one man that was sort of the foreman . The man stole peoples lunches each day . He was caught not much would happen . Anyway that man ended up being a grave robber along with his girlfriend. They wanted the jewelry that the woman's mother was wearing when buried. Glad they got caught and he went to either jail or prison but he got longer then the woman which I found odd because it was the woman who wanted the jewelry . Courts just seem to go easy on the women .
What about Jewish funerals? I've been to a Jewish funeral.
Thank you for the cross. Nice to know to see others with the same perspective.
I heard of a body being stolen about 10 years ago or so it might of been longer but I think they had burial vaults back then
In the late 1800s it was common to have casket/vaults. These were metal caskets/coffins and most hold up quite well, so grave collapse is not common. The cemetery I once managed was first used in 1835, upper midwest area. We had an occasion to disinter a burial from 1889, the deceased was being moved to a new burial location to be near family. We expected the worst, but were surprised by the pristine condition it was in. The transport company just crated it up and off it went to it's new resting place.
Ive seen one that was 4ft deep. Cemetery guy said digging was very hard soil.
My uncles grave was easily 6 ft deep. Just depends.
Cemetery guy also told me they had to exhume a lady, to rebury her on a family ranch. Her grave was 11 feet deep. Was only 10 or 15 years, & he didn’t know why so deep.
Sometimes they are dug for two people, one on top of the other. ( married couple etc.), That is what I was told that some cemeteries do that now to save space.
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Bottom seal vaults are best. Top seal vaults will fill up with water. Middle seal vaults will fill half way with water.
In Oklahoma 4’6” is the legal depth
Depth of a shovel handle is what I am used to.
This is very interesting . . . I had no idea!
Informative. Thank You. When my Mom passed 10 years ago last May, I think her grabe was pretty close to 6' to the bottom. She wasn't in one of those expensive vaults. She was in a 22 gauge Batesville casket but, I think the "vault" was some sort of thing with a plastic base and thick plastic over shell as I'm recalling. I've often wondered before, about the depth the vault lid or casket lid without a vault. Thinking of measurements, I always guestimated it wasn't much more than a couple of feet. By way, that plastic vault thing.....is that the going trend?
About a Month after my Brother was Buried , There was a yellow jackets bee's nest at the head of the Grave in the ground ?
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Here in the UK everyone assumes that people are "six foot under", this is a myth. In 1967 both my Father and brother died within weeks of each other. As my family could not afford a funeral they were buried in a common grave along with two others. My father's coffin lies just 2 feet below ground.
Visiting modern cemeteries I often think that the headstones are too close together to accommodate the vault. Are vaults buried at staggered depths to fit more in a limited space? When a new grave is dug are the sides of previous buried vaults exposed?
Can't speak for anyone else, but in our family cemetery when we lose a family member, graves are tight, 6 to 8 inches between each vault, and often one side of each vault is exposed provided we are putting someone to rest in between existing grave.
I'm a sexton for a cemetery. Each plot is 5' x 8'. If a couple shares a head stone there is 10' a available. You measure from the middle out to the side for each space. Also, when you see stones close to one another, a cremation burial could be there. If the head stone fits it's not a problem to put a urn there.
What do you do with the extra dirt from when you create the grave? I assume that after placing the grave liner and casket in the ground and covering it with the soil, you'll have about 1.5 to 2 feet of soil left over.
In my area in Ohio, most of the leftover soil is actually clay, and not good for growing grass but is a good filler. They have a few piles of it at my cemetery. After the burial, they pile the soil on for a few weeks until it settles, then come back and remove some, grade the grave and add topsoil and seed.
@@kennydemartini2169that is what we do also
Cemeteries typically dump it in a back area, out of view, and may use it to fill in low-lying areas.
Here in the southern US they’ve been 4’ for years .
Burn me….spend all that money to put a casket and vault in the ground? Not happening
That is why we have "choices". Ain't always been that way. My entire family wants to all be buried together at our family cemetery . I could not bare the thought of a loved ones body being burnt, but like I said, that is why we have choices. If something happened that I was not going thru with the traditional burial, I would go the new route and have my body dissolved into nothing, using an acid.
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I thought graves were dug by machine these days. Or does it vary depending on the situation and cemetery policy ?
My grave is 3ft-13/16in deep so that i can still see the sun come up every morning.
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Good video. Green burial isn't 6’ deep either. Animals don't dig more than 2’ down and you can bury anything that does degrade so grave robbing would be low as well.
What about graves with two burials in one grave ?
Do coffins still need to be in the concrete? why?
Most importantly, it's cheaper for you.
Disease would have been another reason, especially the bubonic plague and later the cholera.
Do all cemeteries require burial vaults?
No, but many do.
No, most cemeteries do for maintenance reasons but the minimum required is often a concrete box, it doesn't have to be sealed, just something to keep the grave from collapsing in.
great video but how deep are the graves when you have caskets on top of each other
In the area I work, double depth graves are not that common, I would have to measure the the lawn crypts that are installed. Ours are around 30" tall. So 60" total wi5y 24" of ground cover the grave would be around 7' deep.
Most graves would fill with water after 4 feet in depth.
Different here in UK.....6ft standard.....8ft double.
What is the depth for stacking vaults?
I tried to edit that post. Evidently, woke Google/RUclips dod away with that function. I caught my misspelling after the post. I meant grave, NOT grabe.🤣🤣
When I die, just throw me in the trash, use the money to smoke some marinaras with the fam.
they still commonly are just depends on the cemetary. indiana where i am most ppl dont use grave vault cause of price my parents n brother were buried in caskets 6 feet down. it just depends again on the cemetary.
The question is, were they evern or is it a leftover from vampire hysteria
Wasted families money indeed .
Just think of what this total amount of wasted CASH, could help out the family .
This person is not there . Vist them many times ,, it’s called your memory .
A Grave Channel? What Will they think of next? Im going to create one about Chicken Wire.
6 foot was the minimum for not getting the smell when they just buried a casket
Doubt that's true. Go to a green burial cemetery none of them are deeper than 3.5’ I don't think you'll notice a smell.
A gravel shovel to dig a hole?
9 feet is better. Lessens the chance of the casket, vault, and body from getting washed away in a flood. This happened in Sac City, IA at Oakland Cemetary. The Raccoon River is too close.
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Aren't burial vaults required by local , state and federal laws? Because I have heard that the local- state- federal laws have said that if the deceased 💀 person when making his or her own funeral arrangements can be fined by the local state and federal authorities for not compling with these rules regulations and laws and could even be sent to prison for what some people say that by not buying a burial vault when making their funeral arrangements that the person or persons are violating these laws and can be both fined and sent to prison for breaking the laws and regulations as well as the requirements set down by local state and federal government authorities, is this true or not? Please send a reply back to me a.s.a.p. thanks.
Burial vaults are required by many cemeteries, but not by government. The purpose is to prevent the ground from sinking when the casket rots out. They usually have holes in them to let water in and out, so serve no sanitary purpose.
How bugs can get to u in ur vault and casket
I never knew that
What about military cemeteries. Do they have regulations on Burial depths ?
Back in the day they were that deep was for the smell .
0:24 I thought that Christianity believes that the lord not only has jurisdiction, but love over every non-sinner, religious or not.
Romans 3:23. There are NO non-sinners.
Ten feet for my mother in law.
Face down eh
@@dav01kar and using a lead weight
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Vaults are a waste. I won’t have one.
I'll alert the media. 🙄
@@jcr9599 I wish you would. It’d be nice to get the word out that vaults prevent natural decay and cause a body to turn into a slimy mess for 5 or more decades. It’s be nice to get the word out that vaults aren’t legally required and are only a tactic for funeral industries to make more money. It be nice if the public knew all about funeral really costs it the opening and closing fee for the grave (usually the county charges around $200) and the cost of the stone (for as little as a few hundred $) for a total under $1000 instead of the 10s of thousands funeral parlors charge.
Very few jurisdictions will allow a casket put directly into the earth. Better check your wishes with the local sexton.
@@StandardMan0 Even with all the confidence you have, you are still wrong... There are plenty of cemeteries that don't require a vault. Maybe you should do a little research before your next proclamation...
@@StandardMan0 what sexton? Military cemeteries don’t require vaults. Neither do ordinary civilian family cemeteries. Nor do most city cemeteries. ALL Orthodox Christian cemeteries prohibit vaults.
What about in Texas? What is their depth?
You're cute
Graves are the biggest waste of time money and land. What a racket!
what a stupid thing to say, you do what you want, I'll do what I want
I don't believe in it myself but it's people's right and religious beliefs. It's not like you're short on land in the USA either.
Very uncalled for and disrespectful comment.
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