Hi Daniel. 100%. I won't buy untested unless I am prepared for it to be crap. I remember buying a lot all shipped in blue shop towels. Unbelievable! On of the cards had all of the PCI-E connector caps stripped off. I am still intending to repair it! /flex :)
@aaron96244 That's better than a monitor I had bought recently, where it was "wrapped" in a dino chicken nugget box inside a smashed office paper box. Shockingly it arrived nearly destroyed. Somehow the actual display still works
@@L4ftyOneoh really? Because eBay won't refund you. It specifically says "no refund" Ain't you ever been to a brick and mortar store that has a sign "all sales final" I don't know what law you think you're talking about, but if it says "no refund" then they don't have to refund you. It's called Caveat Emptor, which is legal speak for "buyer beware" If you bought it and it said "no refund" then in the process of giving them money, you AGREE LEGALLY that you cannot be entitled to a refund. That's all the TOS shit you agree to with a smartphone, the agreement YOU clicked waives your legal rights away. Same thing with buying anything that says "no refund", you are entering an agreement by purchasing the items, you are waving your right to a refund. Dunderhead. Take one year of paralegal classes and tell me I'm wrong, because I'm not.
"I am the administrator" I just want to say, as someone who has worked in the IT world for almost a decade now. That phrase is said a lot when I am at work.
Not always the case I mean really I have come across listings where they listed that''pulled from a working machine'' but also having ''Working when pulled'' or other similar wording sometimes even stating why the gpu was pulled was to upgrade
Two GPU mystery loot boxes are exactly how I got acceptable skills with my hot-air station. I'm no NorthwestRepair, but at least I don't explode caps or lift pads anymore (well, most of the time). Also, the better the GPU in one of these bin o' parts, the more likely it's to be broken in interesting ways, so they make for a great diagnostic learning experience. One of the most rewarding things I've ever accomplished was diagnosing and fixing a very badly banged up Radeon RX 580 (it was even missing components) that came in the second box (it was the star of the box, but it was also completely borked). So, while I wouldn't buy one of these bundles looking for a diamond in the rough, they're great if you want to get better at fixing stuff.
I have an FX-5950 Ultra, which I wanted BADLY when I was a teenager with no money, and I believe it has a dead GPU. I bought a Quadro FX card with the same GPU in it hoping to get to the point where I could do the same thing and be able to repair graphics cards well enough to bring it back to life. Until I get the tools and skills I'll stick with rebuilding 400 and 500 series NV cards, though!
@@406Steven thats a good idea actually - shp around for the same GPU in a cheap card - ru ready to do it yet ? - would be a shame if u did get the GPU on and it didnt fix it - ughhh the hours it takes
6:24 Exactly what I had to do with my EVGA GTX 580, was a good card whilst it worked correctly. Good for the £30 I paid for it in 2019 too, just too bad cex decided to screw me over and not replace it when it began having issues whilst in the warranty period. I'd say overall, seems your bundle that you got was quite the flop. Was fun to watch though!
@@auturgicflosculator2183 cex offer a 2 year warranty on everything they sell. I had problems with that specific store before then. I go to a different store now and haven't had issues since with the occasional return.
CeX are usually really good with their 2 year warranty. But it does depend entirely on your local store. I’m fortunate to have a really decent one, others I’ve been to less so
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Yeah, I share the same sort of experience here. I live near a pretty great store now, and haven't had any problems with them at all. And there's usually a good amount of hardware in store too.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial we have CeX down here in Australia now too, just had a look & considering they give 24mth Warranty on GPUs they are priced pretty well compared to eBay
One PC parts shop used to sell "PCIe GPU VGA output" cards without name for around 2$ each, initially they ranged from 5450s to 8600GTs (including some cool ones from back in a day). But after I got lot of 6 GT 310s back to back I kinda stopped buying their lots xD
I sold a box like this of 15 cards one time to clear out my old working but unusable inventory. It included some nice and rare retro cards like an 8800 GTX, 2x EVGA 7800 GT CO, ATI TV Wonder Pro, ATI X850 XT PE, ATI 9700 Pro, Voodoo 4 4500 with some other less noteworthy cards.
@@HappyBeezerStudios yeah, my friend has a pair of those ultra rare recalled and only sold for a week or so evga 7900 GTO KO SSC cards, the collectors price is more than a brand new 4080. kinda neat...hilarious that they're only worth something because if you plug em in, they'll smoke themselves
So I just found out that you can get a GTX 1060 6GB for under 50 dollars and sometimes even under 40. It was such a legendary budget offering for such a long time. Is it still a good card 8 (soon to be 9) years later? Mad that when I first started watching your channel that card was still the newest thing lol
@@mascaradninja9838 yeah, I mean the RX 580 is pretty much AMDs Nvidia GTX 1660 in terms of performance, you may be able to find an nvidia GTX 980 ti for arpund the same price, and thats also around the same performance
This has quickly become my favorite tech channel. And my wife has started asking questions about all these boxes in my garage of “e waste” suddenly appearing 🤣
There is no e-waste..😂 I made the very ,very bad decision to get rid of my collection 21 years ago when I got married. Several valuable machines and all the peripherals,:an amiga 500 with memory expansion ,two Atari 1040 ST's one the STe,one the STfm version,all with monitors,mice joysticks,games etc. I even had the megafile 30 for the ST I've regretted it ever since and now I keep all old hardware. 😢
@@eurocrusader1724 I feel you my friend, we had cat least 5 IMB 5150's (grandfather used them for pirating sattelite TV) that just went to the dump because "they were worthless old computers" PAIN.
I made the mistake of buying a box of scraps off Craigslist once, and every single part had something wrong with it. Chances are, if someone is selling an assorted box, it's all the rejects they couldn't fix.
These lots only worth buying as "it's sure needs repair" mindset. I buy junk all the time so it's really familiar. I reccomend getting MODS/MATS on one of your pendrive and see if it's a RAM problem. If not then maybe a PROPER REFLOW will do the trick.
@@TheSabaton1 Every card is repairable there. But it does not worth the effort at all. As those cards grew older, their users pushed them to their limits, and eventually killed them ALL.
The VE may be garbage, but I guess you got to give it some respect for actually being able to still work after 20+ years Guess I should be thankful any GPU bundles I bought actually were perfectly fine for the most part LMAO
it's funny how one of these here in Brazil already costs the equivalent to $20 (R$100+), even if it's not working, how I love the 97% taxing on aliexpress and the scalping on the local used market
Yeah, its like you pay one for yourself and another for the government, for example the ps5 was 500 dollars which should've launched for a little over R$2500 but it launched for over R$5000🤔
@@Gatinho_com_raivaah and it's not only that, but also, some companies like to charge more here, the XBOX Series S got a price increase here in South America, and only in South America
@Gatinho_com_raivaah the plight of the average 3rd worlder: paying double the price while having half or even a 3rd of the salary of the average 1st worlder, absolutely brutal.
When you are testing the GTX570 it says Testing: GTX580 in the description on the bottom red bar. Not a big deal just being a nerd and doing what I love, watching great videos like yours. I am a fan of almost all of your work, I have an extensive collection of vintage computer hardware myself. Keep up the great coverage of the mediocre hardware that us budget fans love and have a great day Budget-Builds Official.
The 570 was known for desoldering itself from the pcb, you're on the right track with the blow dryer but it doesn't get hot enough to melt the solder balls
OMG, the GeForce 4 Mx440, the first graphics card I ever had. It lacked hardware Pixel and Vertex shader so some games wouldn't launch on it but I remember playing Need For Speed Most Wanted back in the days with it and it did run pretty ok, i did overclock it too. My country was pretty poor in those years so having a computer at home was a privilege, this card did wonders back then with GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas, Half-Life 2, NFS Underground 1 & 2, Hot Pursuit 2, Most Wanted. Ah, you brought a lot of memories back from my childhood
We all saw the GTX 570, testing how that can keep up would be quite interesting. The GTX 580 was about as fast as a GTX 660 Ti when the latter released. The 660 Ti is faster than the 750 Ti. The GT 1030 sits between a 750 and 750 Ti. So the 570 could be somewhere around a 750 Ti terms of performance. Sadly it seems to have problems. Might be worth reflashing the BIOS, perhaps even reflashing a slower clocked BIOS (or modding your own) Could be an interesting thing for a future video. Finding out what clocks and voltages run stable. The Radeon VE/7000 wasn't just the slowest Radeon, it was the low-end model of the first series of Radeons and should sit between a Rage Pro and a Rage 128 performance-wise. It's display output is also pretty good and can be a decent alternative to a Matrox card when running a Voodoo. The newest drivers are 6.1 for Win 98 and 2000 and 6.11 for XP. And yes, the performance is horrible. I have a Ti 200 which pulls 120 FPS in 1024x768 and about 110 fps in 1280x960 in Unreal (my Pentium 3 is clearly holding it back at low resolutions), but I tend to play at 640x480 because that just looks more appropriate on my CRT. The snapping window issue might be related to the monitor software. I've seen people having the same issue with a RX 5700 XT and a Dell monitor. The X1950 GT would make for a neat ca 2006-07 XP retro rig. Sadly it and the GTX 460 would both need a reflow. The MX 440 is just meh. I guess if it works it's not bad for DX7, but at that point any Geforce 2/3/4 and R200/R300 based Radeon would make a much better option. And they also do DX8 The MX 4000 (or rather PCX4300) drivers aren't under geforce but under legacy drivers. But the last ones are for XP, beta version 93.81 and production branch version 93.71 The biggest surprise is the QUadro NVS 380, which is supported in driver release R340 for Windows 10 from late 2016, which is quite a surprise considering its halfway between a FX 5200 and a FX 5200 Ultra.
I think that seller knew it exactly, that all of them are not working. He tried to scrap some money on this pile of crap, usually with addition "untested". I don't know exactly, how behaves market in UK, but in Poland it is standard (on our eBay local counterpart Allegro). And I won't be suprised, if that (your) seller was Polish xD
G'day @tennickjestzajety69 it happens down here in Australia too, so I don't trust "Untested" anymore especially from someone selling multiple PC Components as you could put them together for testing 🙄, also now what is happening a lot now is people being Super Vague in the listing & then after you buy saying "Oh by the way this is missing, is that OK" which just got me with a CoolerMaster ML240ARGB AIO told "One screw for the mount is missing" when it arrived was just the Pump/RAD & Fans, no mounts or ARGB cables 🤬Seller.
People dont have time nor money to fully test things that cost peanuts while thermal paste alone can cost 10 times the board price itself ... get a grip really. You are buying these to restore or mod, perhaps use components from it and not because they magically work. If you don't know how or don't have a trustworthy shop or person around THEN DONT BOTHER. "tested" or "untested" same thing. Nobody will test them just to get 1, 5, 10, 20 euros out of them usually how it goes on bids or sometimes even fixed price listings. Taste common sense and reality for a change.
I remember all the fearmongering about the CX green label PSUs. It was the "I know something I heard from a dude who knows stuff say it's bad" PSU line. The people who didn't understand the issue of rating a PSU at 30C temps would repeat it and say to use EVGA when EVGA had PSUs rated at 30C or even 25C. Absolute tangent from like 5 seconds of video. Happy to see that CX430M soldiering on.
I have a working CX500M (green label). Got it for pretty cheap used, only issue it had was that it was missing the PCIe power cable. Ordered one from ali express and works fine. In fact it pretty much never is going to see anything above 30ºC ambient
Cool to see a ViewSonic monitor. My bedroom TV is an old Viewsonic. When I had a cable TV guy in installing new equipment this spring he told me he had trouble finding the proper code for it because of its age.
15:10 get a copy of MODS/MATS and let it tell you what's broken. Also a proper temp controlled heat gun. Need a 10 min cycle, warm up, reflow, cool down. Hotter than a hairdryer.
my first gaming pc i bought from a pc creator had Duel GTX 580s in SLI, she truely save Christmas that year. And that started my passion for building computers.
It's always a sad day when your once-trusty graphics card starts glitching out, because you know it's time has come. As a vintage PC collector, I remember when my Voodoo 3 died---that was a reall bummer
The Radeon 7000/VE is actually good for older slot1/socket 370 system, since it has old enough drivers, which are not that taxing on the CPU. For Windows XP gaming, well it's bad.
this reminds me of when i was a kid and my brother and i found a damaged open grave at the local church, but the occupants of this grave are graphics cards If you can find a gf4 4200/4400/4600/4800 ti or 4800se, i reckon that would make a brill video!
The Ti 4200 was like the midrange budget card back in the day. Released in 2002 and had no trouble keeping up with later budget cards all the way up to 2005. And the other ones are simply faster.
I remember when I was in my SR year of high school (1995) I was deeply entrenched in the graphics card wars. I went from Diamond Stealth, 3Dfx Voodoo (in my opinion the greatest cards & chipsets in history) & then I switched to Matrox because it was king at one point. I even had a card made by Intergraph after talking with the guys at their booth at Star Trek 30th Anniversary "One Weekend on Earth" in Huntsville, AL. I gave up on GPUs when they started costing the equivalent of a mortgage payment. I currently have an Asus ROG i9 12th Gen laptop with an RTX3070 Ti (mobile version chipset).
The Geforce MX line, the GPUs every kid had because back then every parent bought a prebuilt family PC from PC World. It was the card that got me working so I could buy a 9700 Pro.
I’m gonna chime in here as probably one of the more GPU heavy channels and a VERY avid graphic card collector. This was a fun video to watch as I love seeing people do these, but yes unless you are buying these GPU bundles for fun or for RUclips content I would avoid them. I will say these days they are actually not as hit or miss as they used to be due to the fact there is very little money to be made off GPU bundles anymore. It’s not the 2010s anymore and who’s gonna buy a bundle of 10 series GPUs. So I will say in my own experience having bought a few of these bundles and doing one on video as well that usually they ARE untested GPUs cause seller will not go through the effort. I honestly think budget got unlucky and got one where the seller genuinely knew the conditions of these cards and chose to sell them this way. Couple tips if you plan to do something like this. One, make sure the eBay listing says for parts and not working. If you buy one that says used then you could get one of those bundles and if the GPUs aren’t working argue it back with EBay and they will usually side with you due to the seller saying they completely worked. eBay in my opinion tends to send more with the buyer than the seller. Two, avoid recyclers or large liquidators. They almost ALWAYS test these things as they get them and will do whatever to make a quick buck even at your expense. Try to buy from some random dude who very likely shoved these in a closet for years and just wants them gone. Third and this is gonna sound crazy, but GPUs that are dirtier are generally more trustworthy than something cleaned up. If it is cleaned up then someone very likely knows the condition of the cards. Finally and this is rare, but occasionally you can message a seller and they MIGHT actually test the cards for you before hand. I’ve had this happen a number of times and these people just want these cards GONE and will do whatever you want to get them out their sight. Anyway. Great video budget, sorry you didn’t luck out, but that is how it is.
No, I'm 7 years old and know only LED. Does "incandescent" mean a candle ? Why would a candle shatter ? Watching TIkTok instead of doing actual school work in school, I'm still going to question your statement and insist that LEDs are the only light technology that ever existed outside of candles made from goose fat. Okay, I know I can't keep this charade up any longer. You can tell I'm 43 years old because I learned how to spell in school because back when I went to school, teachers actually had the power to take away whatever pocket device you tried to play games on during class. Anyway, back to knowledge flexing: incandescent bulbs were a coal-based hurricane lamp that relied on witchcraft to produce light. They were first invented in Latvia in the middle ages and were a direct cause of the bubonic plague. See, God didn't approve of Man using black magic to light his igloos up, and so he unleashed 7 great plagues upon mankind. 1 bubonic plague 2 plague of frog spawn 3 lawyer plague 4 interior decorator plague 5 intestinal gas plague 6 "firmware update required" plague And finally 7 butter churn immolation plague
Halogen were worse. Bug and retina burners, as well as fire hazards. Remember the ceiling facing floor lamps in mid-nineties. I still have some of these cards.
Hey man, love to hear SimCity soundtrack in the background! It wasn't the popular choice for gamers I think, but it had its moments :D Great video btw!
16 minutes in, on the desktop, the Legit Activator reg key, hmmmm question mark question, comedy gold with the Halo Trial also there. If the reg key perhaps not being "legit" ooppss for showing this on a video.
Holy cow the ATI 7000/VE can play HL2?!?!?!?!?! That is damn impressive! Working and plays HL2. You need to take back all the bad things you said about it! I have the pci version in a joke Pentium III "Fleabay" machine and it's about as powerful as a voodoo 3 except it can run 32bit unlike the voodoo.
On One of my test boards, 1155 with Pentium something or other - I tested a load of cards (with built in graphics still enabled to get a screen in windows if a card is faulty). Tested a lot of cards, and none of them worked, just fans spinning - recently I tried one of my own good cards, and it didn't work...turns out one of the cards I tested previously had killed something on the board and pci express slot is now dead.
G'day @@chrismay2298 Yeah while it doesn't happen often I had a 💥GTX460💥short as soon as I powered on for first test & it took out the PCIe on the ASUS B75 that was for the same build, 3770 IGP still worked but Mobo would not recognise if a was GPU installed so was useless for gaming PC. I have a few "Sacrificial" DELL Motherboards I got for free that I use for 2nd hand retro parts testing now
You can fix some of these bumpgate specials by applying a serious amount of pressure to the core (middle of the chip). The pressure has to be even or it'll crack, no hairdryer / heat needed. It can be a permanent fix assuming you luck out on the 99% chance of cracking the core.
I have started collecting older cards that might still have a bit of life in them. Budget is £60 max per card and so far I have a GTX 960 4GB, GTX 1050TI 4GB and a FirePro 4300 also 4GB. Total spend so far is £135. Will be fitting these into cheap EliteDesks and Optiplexes which I hopefully can sell on for a small profit.
I've been getting into used parts myself, since I started putting together a semi-retro gaming rig, been mostly fortunate so far. The real pain comes when the GPU's arent even packed properly, worst i came accross was an original Nvidia Titan that was packed in nothing but four layers of paper bag, no padding, no cardboard, nothing. And as expected it was pretty much DOA.
The Quadro 280 is quite interesting as that they made a PCI, AGP and PCI-E version of the card. what would be interesting would be to see the cards against each other as it could even be on same motherboard as some motherboards had both AGP and PCI-E, A battle of the slots. Also The PCI NVS is quite a good cheap windows 98 card for motherboards that lack AGP its fast, has win98 drivers but it has some VESA resolution issues. lastly Using a rubber on pins brush off and use isopropyl alcohol is often overlooked for memory and card revival, carbon builds up on the pins if they have been out of a PC for ages. Another great video Thanks.
Most interesting thing about it is, it's basically a Geforce FX 5200 with slightly higher clocks, but not as high as the 5200 Ultra. And there are Windows 10 drivers from 2016 for it!
Since you have so many malfunctioning GPUs, have you thought on trying to reball the GPU chips using the cheapest materials you can find? Even if it doesn't work, it's still content for the channel...
I do not think some of those cards are even able to generate enough heat to melt the soldering. Most likely most of them have dead or almost dead GPU chip
on ebay even if seller describes cards as not working, you can be that guy and return them IF they listed in "used" category rather than "parts/not working" category
I had the exact same 570HD, on my unit the VRMs failed doing kind of the same stuff that is doing to you it seems to work but stops doing so, the vrms overheat like crazy and break themselves
You are using contact cleaner right? not just on the pcie, but also on the display ports too? They are likely cooked, the bad ones; but never hurts to be certain.
Funny mentioning the 7200, as I have a working one. I only wish I could find a low profile bracket that has a hole for the S-video, as I wanted to put it in a slim case setup... 😅
i usually apply some contact cleaner first (the no - oil type) and insert and remove the card a couple of times just to make sure the contacts are free from any corrosion /dirt
Respectfully... This is a load of crap. It's not going to work very long if it even works at all. You're always going to have significantly better results with a hot air rework station, by replacing that trash tin solder with something more robust, maybe even leaded. its better for the silicon anyways. Question is it even worth it? probably not, or maybe as a hobby.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp But who has the setup for reballing at home? Household ovens do indeed get hot enough to melt the solder, and while it won't be a permanent fix, it can get some more time out of a card.
I have this exact GTX570 in my summerhouse PC with a Xeon X5460, 4GB of RAM (maximum motherboard supports) and a shady Polish 600W PSU (iBox Cube II Max 600W) that was bought for 30€ in 2021.
Would love to see a video on trying to resurrect the dead cards, Maybe the old oven method :D ,Also the worst of the bunch i wonder how far it can be overclocked. :D
The Geforce 4 MX 440 is an amazing card for Windows 98 era retro gaming. Since it is basically a beefed up Geforce 2 MX it has great driver support for Windows 98.
I got one of these mystery boxes a long while ago. Most of it was pretty meh. But, I got a Radeon HD 6670 when it was only a year old at that point. The fan on its heatsink was dead. I replaced the heatsink assembly with a dead laptop's heatsink+fan that I had which had the same mounting hole spacing. It was so janky having a laptop heatsink sticking 6 inches out from the top of the GPU PCB, but it worked really well, and for a long time. I ended up giving it to a friend.
I put case fans on a couple of cards over the years. My 8800 GT (when it still worked) got a pair of 80mm fans that dropped temps by 30°C, the 7300 GT has a 70 mm fan on it and still runs, the HD 4870 had a pair of 80mm for a while, but it took up too much space, so it's back to it's stock fan.
Although your eBay Purchase wasn’t great at least the Seller seemed fairly amicable in attempting to resolve the issue, I do my utmost to work with Buyers / Sellers if there are issues so at least the Buyer / Seller will be happy at the end of the day although there are a small minority that you can never please no matter how hard you try! Nice Video btw! 🙂 Anthony - Birmingham
More Gpu lootbox videos please also that EVGA GTX 580 HD is actually a pretty rare model i would try putting it the oven and reflowing it along with that GTX 460 as well you have nothing to lose by doing so
Yeah, reflow might help here, looks like the either the connection to memory or possibly an actual bad memory chip. I'd guess 95% fixable. Forget the oven crap though, do it properly with lots of flux and the right soldering tip.
A 20 for content of THIS quality is a steal. FROM you, not FOR you. TBH you have amused me enough to earn another video view of other videos. Take it as a win. I am. And I would love to see you attempt card repair. Might want to brush up on the more recent techniques. NW Repair goes into the weeds but he does have some idea what he is doing. Your renaissance has been quite enjoyable as you muck about in these older systems. Please, by all means, continue, sir. Thank you.
You might be able to fix the cards by making a flux out of rosin and isopropyl alcohol, then cooking them in the oven at the correct temperature. The flux makes sure the solder joints actually bond properly. The lines on the screen show ram errors, they could be a solder joint gone bad.
The 460s are a pain in the butt for SLI. They had 3 revisions and only 1 and 2 are compatible with each other in SLI. I ended up with 5 learning this. Rev 1/2 has a 256 bit bus. Then the Gtx 560 came out which was just an overclocked 460 so they nerfed the Rev3 460s with a 192 bit bus.
Jack the GTX 570 in the oven it will work I've done it with a GTX 670 ti and it was completely dead and now it's working so try it and if it's not that I know little components what can causes that
Many years ago I bought a used ATi X1950XTX. For a brief time it was the fastest, most powerful video card - in the world - (you have to say those last three words like Jeremy Clarkson). It ran unbearably hot, and lasted only a few months before it started artifacting, too. I suspect the previous owner OC'd the living hell out of it.
Did something similar a while back, but seemingly with way more luck. I at least scored a 4870 and 8800 GT out of it, and they both worked. And an 8800 GTX that seems to work when it feels like it.
For those GTX 5xx cards, a lot had an IHS on top of the GPU die and the paste ubderneath would dry out and force reduced clock speed. I had quad SLI GTX 580's and chose to RMA them instead of popping the IHS myself. Eventually, i had four stable at stock clocks and all of those finalcopies came w/o the IHS and ran great until I retired that system
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Gpu lootboxes, what a time to be alive.
EA But its GPUs
@@drakethedragon457 EA usually steals from you
I think "gpu lootboxes" were here for around couple years before loot boxes
@@desdee7615 Yeees....but still as shitty 😀
@@drakethedragon457 EA, its in the box
Respect for the seller 👍
Majority will state UNTESTED NO REFUND! 1000+ pc parts sold and they want us to think they don`t have pc there.
Hi Daniel. 100%. I won't buy untested unless I am prepared for it to be crap. I remember buying a lot all shipped in blue shop towels. Unbelievable! On of the cards had all of the PCI-E connector caps stripped off. I am still intending to repair it! /flex :)
refund is still a must by law, if they write that it doesnt matter
@aaron96244 That's better than a monitor I had bought recently, where it was "wrapped" in a dino chicken nugget box inside a smashed office paper box. Shockingly it arrived nearly destroyed. Somehow the actual display still works
@@loganmitchell1382 Unbelievable how some people ship things!!!
@@L4ftyOneoh really? Because eBay won't refund you.
It specifically says "no refund"
Ain't you ever been to a brick and mortar store that has a sign "all sales final"
I don't know what law you think you're talking about, but if it says "no refund" then they don't have to refund you.
It's called Caveat Emptor, which is legal speak for "buyer beware"
If you bought it and it said "no refund" then in the process of giving them money, you AGREE LEGALLY that you cannot be entitled to a refund.
That's all the TOS shit you agree to with a smartphone, the agreement YOU clicked waives your legal rights away.
Same thing with buying anything that says "no refund", you are entering an agreement by purchasing the items, you are waving your right to a refund.
Dunderhead.
Take one year of paralegal classes and tell me I'm wrong, because I'm not.
The term "came from working machines" apparently doesn't mean the card actually works but the machines they died in still work...
Of course why wouldn't it?
"Yeah the PC still works, it's why we took out the broken GPUs so we can keep using them"
😂
"I am the administrator" I just want to say, as someone who has worked in the IT world for almost a decade now. That phrase is said a lot when I am at work.
Ive screamed that at my pc before
"Pulled from working units" Well yes. The unit is working but the gpus do not. That's why they were pulled.
Not always the case I mean really I have come across listings where they listed that''pulled from a working machine'' but also having ''Working when pulled'' or other similar wording sometimes even stating why the gpu was pulled was to upgrade
Two GPU mystery loot boxes are exactly how I got acceptable skills with my hot-air station. I'm no NorthwestRepair, but at least I don't explode caps or lift pads anymore (well, most of the time). Also, the better the GPU in one of these bin o' parts, the more likely it's to be broken in interesting ways, so they make for a great diagnostic learning experience. One of the most rewarding things I've ever accomplished was diagnosing and fixing a very badly banged up Radeon RX 580 (it was even missing components) that came in the second box (it was the star of the box, but it was also completely borked).
So, while I wouldn't buy one of these bundles looking for a diamond in the rough, they're great if you want to get better at fixing stuff.
I have an FX-5950 Ultra, which I wanted BADLY when I was a teenager with no money, and I believe it has a dead GPU. I bought a Quadro FX card with the same GPU in it hoping to get to the point where I could do the same thing and be able to repair graphics cards well enough to bring it back to life. Until I get the tools and skills I'll stick with rebuilding 400 and 500 series NV cards, though!
@@406Steven thats a good idea actually - shp around for the same GPU in a cheap card - ru ready to do it yet ? - would be a shame if u did get the GPU on and it didnt fix it - ughhh the hours it takes
I'd love to get into BGA stuff.
@@StanleytheCat-v8z me too. 😉
6:24 Exactly what I had to do with my EVGA GTX 580, was a good card whilst it worked correctly. Good for the £30 I paid for it in 2019 too, just too bad cex decided to screw me over and not replace it when it began having issues whilst in the warranty period.
I'd say overall, seems your bundle that you got was quite the flop. Was fun to watch though!
@@auturgicflosculator2183 cex offer a 2 year warranty on everything they sell. I had problems with that specific store before then. I go to a different store now and haven't had issues since with the occasional return.
CeX are usually really good with their 2 year warranty. But it does depend entirely on your local store.
I’m fortunate to have a really decent one, others I’ve been to less so
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Yeah, I share the same sort of experience here. I live near a pretty great store now, and haven't had any problems with them at all. And there's usually a good amount of hardware in store too.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial we have CeX down here in Australia now too,
just had a look & considering they give 24mth Warranty on GPUs they are priced pretty well compared to eBay
Yeah, CEX are the worst for warranty repairs.
I will never buy from them, ever again.
I had to take them to small claims to get my money back.
Jerks
One PC parts shop used to sell "PCIe GPU VGA output" cards without name for around 2$ each, initially they ranged from 5450s to 8600GTs (including some cool ones from back in a day). But after I got lot of 6 GT 310s back to back I kinda stopped buying their lots xD
i have 5450 15 years old and still work in my first pc
I sold a box like this of 15 cards one time to clear out my old working but unusable inventory. It included some nice and rare retro cards like an 8800 GTX, 2x EVGA 7800 GT CO, ATI TV Wonder Pro, ATI X850 XT PE, ATI 9700 Pro, Voodoo 4 4500 with some other less noteworthy cards.
Yo, some of these cards alone would sell for a neat price.
@@HappyBeezerStudios yeah, my friend has a pair of those ultra rare recalled and only sold for a week or so evga 7900 GTO KO SSC cards, the collectors price is more than a brand new 4080.
kinda neat...hilarious that they're only worth something because if you plug em in, they'll smoke themselves
usually lootboxes reward you with something great every 10 pulls.
Every 75 or so if you play chinese gacha games though...
No that's just the minimum for an SR, you have to go to 200 to guarantee an SSR
could be sold by Nexon and have a 0% chance at a rare.
@@d9zirable lmao is this for fate grand order?
@@crsorsmth5113 FGO is 250. Most gacha games usually give a 5* at most 90 pulls
I used to go to a nightclub with old motherboards on the walls as decoration giving a Cyberpunk/Mad Max vibe.
Probably best use case scenario.
So I just found out that you can get a GTX 1060 6GB for under 50 dollars and sometimes even under 40. It was such a legendary budget offering for such a long time. Is it still a good card 8 (soon to be 9) years later?
Mad that when I first started watching your channel that card was still the newest thing lol
I still have it, I mean I should probably upgrade it, but it still works quite well, and I don't play games like before so
@@CyberDunk2077 I have one of those in a closet somewhere.
you can find the rx 580 8gb for the same price, from what i see in the latest benchmarks it's outperformed the GTX 1060
@@mascaradninja9838 yeah, I mean the RX 580 is pretty much AMDs Nvidia GTX 1660 in terms of performance, you may be able to find an nvidia GTX 980 ti for arpund the same price, and thats also around the same performance
I had a 1050ti 4gb but it was absolute bollocks so I got a gtx 980 now 4or 6gb can't remember but it's is massively better than the 1050ti was
So what I've gotten from the new video is to not buy bulk GPUs for 25 bucks on eBay.
This has quickly become my favorite tech channel. And my wife has started asking questions about all these boxes in my garage of “e waste” suddenly appearing 🤣
There is no e-waste..😂
I made the very ,very bad decision to get rid of my collection 21 years ago when I got married.
Several valuable machines and all the peripherals,:an amiga 500 with memory expansion ,two Atari 1040 ST's one the STe,one the STfm version,all with monitors,mice joysticks,games etc.
I even had the megafile 30 for the ST
I've regretted it ever since and now I keep all old hardware.
😢
@@eurocrusader1724 I feel you my friend, we had cat least 5 IMB 5150's (grandfather used them for pirating sattelite TV) that just went to the dump because "they were worthless old computers" PAIN.
@@eurocrusader1724the moment I read "amiga" I went "Nooooo...!" haha
I made the mistake of buying a box of scraps off Craigslist once, and every single part had something wrong with it. Chances are, if someone is selling an assorted box, it's all the rejects they couldn't fix.
Two BBO videos within two days!? You're spoiling us! Thank you for all the great content.
These lots only worth buying as "it's sure needs repair" mindset.
I buy junk all the time so it's really familiar.
I reccomend getting MODS/MATS on one of your pendrive and see if it's a RAM problem.
If not then maybe a PROPER REFLOW will do the trick.
And what if it is a ram problem?
@@GoghyPcs just replace the memory on the card from new parts or a donor card
@@TheSabaton1 Every card is repairable there. But it does not worth the effort at all. As those cards grew older, their users pushed them to their limits, and eventually killed them ALL.
The VE may be garbage, but I guess you got to give it some respect for actually being able to still work after 20+ years
Guess I should be thankful any GPU bundles I bought actually were perfectly fine for the most part LMAO
probably so basic, less to go wrong.
it's funny how one of these here in Brazil already costs the equivalent to $20 (R$100+), even if it's not working, how I love the 97% taxing on aliexpress and the scalping on the local used market
Yeah, its like you pay one for yourself and another for the government, for example the ps5 was 500 dollars which should've launched for a little over R$2500 but it launched for over R$5000🤔
@@Gatinho_com_raivaah and it's not only that, but also, some companies like to charge more here, the XBOX Series S got a price increase here in South America, and only in South America
Goofy ahh brasil being a member of BRICS but still taxing the f out of their supposed friend and partner china
@Gatinho_com_raivaah the plight of the average 3rd worlder: paying double the price while having half or even a 3rd of the salary of the average 1st worlder, absolutely brutal.
@@AverageDoomer69 we have 1/5 of the minimal salary of the US. And Brazil is the least poor country in SA
When you are testing the GTX570 it says Testing: GTX580 in the description on the bottom red bar. Not a big deal just being a nerd and doing what I love, watching great videos like yours. I am a fan of almost all of your work, I have an extensive collection of vintage computer hardware myself. Keep up the great coverage of the mediocre hardware that us budget fans love and have a great day Budget-Builds Official.
The 570 was known for desoldering itself from the pcb, you're on the right track with the blow dryer but it doesn't get hot enough to melt the solder balls
Needs about 230° to properly meld the solder. And probably a good amount of flux.
OMG, the GeForce 4 Mx440, the first graphics card I ever had. It lacked hardware Pixel and Vertex shader so some games wouldn't launch on it but I remember playing Need For Speed Most Wanted back in the days with it and it did run pretty ok, i did overclock it too. My country was pretty poor in those years so having a computer at home was a privilege, this card did wonders back then with GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas, Half-Life 2, NFS Underground 1 & 2, Hot Pursuit 2, Most Wanted. Ah, you brought a lot of memories back from my childhood
Ohh,the X1950 IS my favourite card,just built with Radeon X1950GT on 478 platform.
AND ,got X1950XT in original box, with all of it !!
We all saw the GTX 570, testing how that can keep up would be quite interesting. The GTX 580 was about as fast as a GTX 660 Ti when the latter released.
The 660 Ti is faster than the 750 Ti. The GT 1030 sits between a 750 and 750 Ti. So the 570 could be somewhere around a 750 Ti terms of performance.
Sadly it seems to have problems. Might be worth reflashing the BIOS, perhaps even reflashing a slower clocked BIOS (or modding your own) Could be an interesting thing for a future video. Finding out what clocks and voltages run stable.
The Radeon VE/7000 wasn't just the slowest Radeon, it was the low-end model of the first series of Radeons and should sit between a Rage Pro and a Rage 128 performance-wise. It's display output is also pretty good and can be a decent alternative to a Matrox card when running a Voodoo.
The newest drivers are 6.1 for Win 98 and 2000 and 6.11 for XP.
And yes, the performance is horrible. I have a Ti 200 which pulls 120 FPS in 1024x768 and about 110 fps in 1280x960 in Unreal (my Pentium 3 is clearly holding it back at low resolutions), but I tend to play at 640x480 because that just looks more appropriate on my CRT.
The snapping window issue might be related to the monitor software. I've seen people having the same issue with a RX 5700 XT and a Dell monitor.
The X1950 GT would make for a neat ca 2006-07 XP retro rig. Sadly it and the GTX 460 would both need a reflow.
The MX 440 is just meh. I guess if it works it's not bad for DX7, but at that point any Geforce 2/3/4 and R200/R300 based Radeon would make a much better option. And they also do DX8
The MX 4000 (or rather PCX4300) drivers aren't under geforce but under legacy drivers. But the last ones are for XP, beta version 93.81 and production branch version 93.71
The biggest surprise is the QUadro NVS 380, which is supported in driver release R340 for Windows 10 from late 2016, which is quite a surprise considering its halfway between a FX 5200 and a FX 5200 Ultra.
Amazing pace on the video releases, Hamish! Keep it up!
I LOVE these kind of videos, they really spark my interest!
Oh no... you brought back memories. I think as a kid I actually had the Radeon VE... oh god
I think that seller knew it exactly, that all of them are not working. He tried to scrap some money on this pile of crap, usually with addition "untested". I don't know exactly, how behaves market in UK, but in Poland it is standard (on our eBay local counterpart Allegro). And I won't be suprised, if that (your) seller was Polish xD
G'day @tennickjestzajety69 it happens down here in Australia too, so I don't trust "Untested" anymore especially from someone selling multiple PC Components as you could put them together for testing 🙄,
also now what is happening a lot now is people being Super Vague in the listing & then after you buy saying "Oh by the way this is missing, is that OK" which just got me with a CoolerMaster ML240ARGB AIO told "One screw for the mount is missing" when it arrived was just the Pump/RAD & Fans, no mounts or ARGB cables 🤬Seller.
People dont have time nor money to fully test things that cost peanuts while thermal paste alone can cost 10 times the board price itself ... get a grip really.
You are buying these to restore or mod, perhaps use components from it and not because they magically work.
If you don't know how or don't have a trustworthy shop or person around THEN DONT BOTHER.
"tested" or "untested" same thing. Nobody will test them just to get 1, 5, 10, 20 euros out of them usually how it goes on bids or sometimes even fixed price listings. Taste common sense and reality for a change.
I remember all the fearmongering about the CX green label PSUs. It was the "I know something I heard from a dude who knows stuff say it's bad" PSU line. The people who didn't understand the issue of rating a PSU at 30C temps would repeat it and say to use EVGA when EVGA had PSUs rated at 30C or even 25C.
Absolute tangent from like 5 seconds of video. Happy to see that CX430M soldiering on.
I have a working CX500M (green label). Got it for pretty cheap used, only issue it had was that it was missing the PCIe power cable. Ordered one from ali express and works fine. In fact it pretty much never is going to see anything above 30ºC ambient
Imagine finding a PSU that isn't certified to be used during summer.
Cool to see a ViewSonic monitor. My bedroom TV is an old Viewsonic. When I had a cable TV guy in installing new equipment this spring he told me he had trouble finding the proper code for it because of its age.
15:10 get a copy of MODS/MATS and let it tell you what's broken. Also a proper temp controlled heat gun. Need a 10 min cycle, warm up, reflow, cool down. Hotter than a hairdryer.
the 570 looks so sleek, I love the plastic shine of the cooler
I just want to thank you again for regularly making content again. Still one of my favorites channels on RUclips.
I have never clicked anything faster
Can’t get this kinda content from anyone else. This was a very enjoyable video lol.
I would recommend trying to use an actual heat gun on some of the dead cards for a couple of minutes at a high temperature.
I've been keeping my LG plasma TV going for years using that technique.
my first gaming pc i bought from a pc creator had Duel GTX 580s in SLI, she truely save Christmas that year. And that started my passion for building computers.
It's always a sad day when your once-trusty graphics card starts glitching out, because you know it's time has come. As a vintage PC collector, I remember when my Voodoo 3 died---that was a reall bummer
The Radeon 7000/VE is actually good for older slot1/socket 370 system, since it has old enough drivers, which are not that taxing on the CPU. For Windows XP gaming, well it's bad.
I'm getting so much fun out of this mate thank you for making my day.
That's actually great value if you want to line the pc museum shelf with classic cards that are for show only.
this reminds me of when i was a kid and my brother and i found a damaged open grave at the local church, but the occupants of this grave are graphics cards
If you can find a gf4 4200/4400/4600/4800 ti or 4800se, i reckon that would make a brill video!
Those are pretty sought after retro cards so probably woudlnt't be very budget
The Ti 4200 was like the midrange budget card back in the day. Released in 2002 and had no trouble keeping up with later budget cards all the way up to 2005.
And the other ones are simply faster.
I remember when I was in my SR year of high school (1995) I was deeply entrenched in the graphics card wars. I went from Diamond Stealth, 3Dfx Voodoo (in my opinion the greatest cards & chipsets in history) & then I switched to Matrox because it was king at one point. I even had a card made by Intergraph after talking with the guys at their booth at Star Trek 30th Anniversary "One Weekend on Earth" in Huntsville, AL. I gave up on GPUs when they started costing the equivalent of a mortgage payment. I currently have an Asus ROG i9 12th Gen laptop with an RTX3070 Ti (mobile version chipset).
The Geforce MX line, the GPUs every kid had because back then every parent bought a prebuilt family PC from PC World. It was the card that got me working so I could buy a 9700 Pro.
I’m gonna chime in here as probably one of the more GPU heavy channels and a VERY avid graphic card collector. This was a fun video to watch as I love seeing people do these, but yes unless you are buying these GPU bundles for fun or for RUclips content I would avoid them. I will say these days they are actually not as hit or miss as they used to be due to the fact there is very little money to be made off GPU bundles anymore. It’s not the 2010s anymore and who’s gonna buy a bundle of 10 series GPUs. So I will say in my own experience having bought a few of these bundles and doing one on video as well that usually they ARE untested GPUs cause seller will not go through the effort. I honestly think budget got unlucky and got one where the seller genuinely knew the conditions of these cards and chose to sell them this way. Couple tips if you plan to do something like this. One, make sure the eBay listing says for parts and not working. If you buy one that says used then you could get one of those bundles and if the GPUs aren’t working argue it back with EBay and they will usually side with you due to the seller saying they completely worked. eBay in my opinion tends to send more with the buyer than the seller. Two, avoid recyclers or large liquidators. They almost ALWAYS test these things as they get them and will do whatever to make a quick buck even at your expense. Try to buy from some random dude who very likely shoved these in a closet for years and just wants them gone. Third and this is gonna sound crazy, but GPUs that are dirtier are generally more trustworthy than something cleaned up. If it is cleaned up then someone very likely knows the condition of the cards. Finally and this is rare, but occasionally you can message a seller and they MIGHT actually test the cards for you before hand. I’ve had this happen a number of times and these people just want these cards GONE and will do whatever you want to get them out their sight. Anyway. Great video budget, sorry you didn’t luck out, but that is how it is.
wait, people were selling boxes of 1030s and 1050s in like 2018-19?
@@HappyBeezerStudios I shoulda specified. Most untested gpu bundles are likely gonna be 10 series these days.
Glad to know you're back!
11:52
Anyone remember the days of incandescent light bulbs where that light would have burned out or exploded when it fell?
No, I'm 7 years old and know only LED.
Does "incandescent" mean a candle ?
Why would a candle shatter ?
Watching TIkTok instead of doing actual school work in school, I'm still going to question your statement and insist that LEDs are the only light technology that ever existed outside of candles made from goose fat.
Okay, I know I can't keep this charade up any longer. You can tell I'm 43 years old because I learned how to spell in school because back when I went to school, teachers actually had the power to take away whatever pocket device you tried to play games on during class.
Anyway, back to knowledge flexing: incandescent bulbs were a coal-based hurricane lamp that relied on witchcraft to produce light. They were first invented in Latvia in the middle ages and were a direct cause of the bubonic plague. See, God didn't approve of Man using black magic to light his igloos up, and so he unleashed 7 great plagues upon mankind.
1 bubonic plague
2 plague of frog spawn
3 lawyer plague
4 interior decorator plague
5 intestinal gas plague
6 "firmware update required" plague
And finally
7 butter churn immolation plague
Halogen were worse. Bug and retina burners, as well as fire hazards. Remember the ceiling facing floor lamps in mid-nineties. I still have some of these cards.
Hey man, love to hear SimCity soundtrack in the background! It wasn't the popular choice for gamers I think, but it had its moments :D Great video btw!
A new video literally the day after the last? Never thought I'd see that on this channel.
Im so tempted to get a box like this, postage is just so incredibly expensive
Edit: I knew it! Well, almost, it was a 4MX instead of a 2MX
16 minutes in, on the desktop, the Legit Activator reg key, hmmmm question mark question, comedy gold with the Halo Trial also there. If the reg key perhaps not being "legit" ooppss for showing this on a video.
Nostalgic to see mx440 , that is the first gpu i owned many years ago it barely worked with gta vice city
Holy cow the ATI 7000/VE can play HL2?!?!?!?!?! That is damn impressive! Working and plays HL2. You need to take back all the bad things you said about it! I have the pci version in a joke Pentium III "Fleabay" machine and it's about as powerful as a voodoo 3 except it can run 32bit unlike the voodoo.
Good old -dxlevel70
On the other hand, the voodoo 3 can run glide.
Anyone is brave just sticking unknown cards straight into anything other than a test rig.
I hear this all the time, but working as a desktop tech, have yet to see any damage from just chucking them in. FUD on the interwebs.
On One of my test boards, 1155 with Pentium something or other - I tested a load of cards (with built in graphics still enabled to get a screen in windows if a card is faulty).
Tested a lot of cards, and none of them worked, just fans spinning - recently I tried one of my own good cards, and it didn't work...turns out one of the cards I tested previously had killed something on the board and pci express slot is now dead.
G'day @@chrismay2298 Yeah while it doesn't happen often I had a 💥GTX460💥short as soon as I powered on for first test & it took out the PCIe on the ASUS B75 that was for the same build, 3770 IGP still worked but Mobo would not recognise if a was GPU installed so was useless for gaming PC.
I have a few "Sacrificial" DELL Motherboards I got for free that I use for 2nd hand retro parts testing now
G'day @@pauljenkins433 yeah I had similar with a GTX460 taking out the PCIe on an ASUS Mobo although It really let me know 💥BIG TIME💥
I don't know hardware that much but unlike flash drive, GPU has no virus on it. So any random cards is safe to stick in there?
multi graphics card oven bake time? :D
crap cards get OC'd too, i got a cheap quadro on ebay, it was not able to do any 3D
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You can fix some of these bumpgate specials by applying a serious amount of pressure to the core (middle of the chip). The pressure has to be even or it'll crack, no hairdryer / heat needed. It can be a permanent fix assuming you luck out on the 99% chance of cracking the core.
I have started collecting older cards that might still have a bit of life in them. Budget is £60 max per card and so far I have a GTX 960 4GB, GTX 1050TI 4GB and a FirePro 4300 also 4GB. Total spend so far is £135. Will be fitting these into cheap EliteDesks and Optiplexes which I hopefully can sell on for a small profit.
A 1050ti being an "older card" is crazy. It's the first card I ever ran back when I built my first PC in 7th grade. I'm in college now.
@@lucasward9506 My first GPU was a Tseng Labs circa 1983 so old is a relative term for sure. Perhaps I should have said old but good.
I've been getting into used parts myself, since I started putting together a semi-retro gaming rig, been mostly fortunate so far. The real pain comes when the GPU's arent even packed properly, worst i came accross was an original Nvidia Titan that was packed in nothing but four layers of paper bag, no padding, no cardboard, nothing. And as expected it was pretty much DOA.
reminds me of dankpods videos, the lucky dips and him buying massive bundles of random mp3 players
Well, the MX 4000 and the Radeon VE are indeed nuggets
@@HappyBeezerStudios exactly!
The Quadro 280 is quite interesting as that they made a PCI, AGP and PCI-E version of the card. what would be interesting would be to see the cards against each other as it could even be on same motherboard as some motherboards had both AGP and PCI-E, A battle of the slots. Also The PCI NVS is quite a good cheap windows 98 card for motherboards that lack AGP its fast, has win98 drivers but it has some VESA resolution issues. lastly Using a rubber on pins brush off and use isopropyl alcohol is often overlooked for memory and card revival, carbon builds up on the pins if they have been out of a PC for ages. Another great video Thanks.
Most interesting thing about it is, it's basically a Geforce FX 5200 with slightly higher clocks, but not as high as the 5200 Ultra.
And there are Windows 10 drivers from 2016 for it!
glad you’re uploading more often
Since you have so many malfunctioning GPUs, have you thought on trying to reball the GPU chips using the cheapest materials you can find? Even if it doesn't work, it's still content for the channel...
I do not think some of those cards are even able to generate enough heat to melt the soldering. Most likely most of them have dead or almost dead GPU chip
on ebay even if seller describes cards as not working, you can be that guy and return them IF they listed in "used" category rather than "parts/not working" category
he got his money back
oh i love your videos iam watching since 2018 days :D and i cant bore from your videos
I had the exact same 570HD, on my unit the VRMs failed doing kind of the same stuff that is doing to you it seems to work but stops doing so, the vrms overheat like crazy and break themselves
You are using contact cleaner right? not just on the pcie, but also on the display ports too? They are likely cooked, the bad ones; but never hurts to be certain.
gpus from 2005-2010 were plagued by the bumpgate. same reason why so many ps3 and xbox 360 failed. I had a 7200 and a 9500GT failing on me.
Funny mentioning the 7200, as I have a working one. I only wish I could find a low profile bracket that has a hole for the S-video, as I wanted to put it in a slim case setup... 😅
@@HarmonyEdge my 7300 GT is also still running.
The 8800 GT tho, that thing is better dead.
i usually apply some contact cleaner first (the no - oil type) and insert and remove the card a couple of times just to make sure the contacts are free from any corrosion /dirt
I feel like other people have said it, but Nvidia has a "Legacy" tab for OLD(I mean it) Cards.
Hardware modders might still get some use from the dead cards by grabbing MLCCs and other capacitors off the boards.
put the 460 in the oven!! might reball the solder on the memory chips
Respectfully... This is a load of crap. It's not going to work very long if it even works at all. You're always going to have significantly better results with a hot air rework station, by replacing that trash tin solder with something more robust, maybe even leaded. its better for the silicon anyways. Question is it even worth it? probably not, or maybe as a hobby.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp But who has the setup for reballing at home?
Household ovens do indeed get hot enough to melt the solder, and while it won't be a permanent fix, it can get some more time out of a card.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Usually more reputable computer repairers do. The repair industry situation is looking a little grim though.
reminds me of the dank pods nugget haul videos. Very entertaining.
not to say you dont know this but clean and sand paper all plug and play, and re apply thermal paste for all before the bin
I have this exact GTX570 in my summerhouse PC with a Xeon X5460, 4GB of RAM (maximum motherboard supports) and a shady Polish 600W PSU (iBox Cube II Max 600W) that was bought for 30€ in 2021.
Would love to see a video on trying to resurrect the dead cards, Maybe the old oven method :D ,Also the worst of the bunch i wonder how far it can be overclocked. :D
The Geforce 4 MX 440 is an amazing card for Windows 98 era retro gaming. Since it is basically a beefed up Geforce 2 MX it has great driver support for Windows 98.
But so do the Geforce 3 and Geforce 4 Ti. And Radeon 8000 and 9000.
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Indeed but the Geforce 4 MX 400 is usually alot easier to find.
I got one of these mystery boxes a long while ago.
Most of it was pretty meh. But, I got a Radeon HD 6670 when it was only a year old at that point. The fan on its heatsink was dead. I replaced the heatsink assembly with a dead laptop's heatsink+fan that I had which had the same mounting hole spacing. It was so janky having a laptop heatsink sticking 6 inches out from the top of the GPU PCB, but it worked really well, and for a long time. I ended up giving it to a friend.
I put case fans on a couple of cards over the years. My 8800 GT (when it still worked) got a pair of 80mm fans that dropped temps by 30°C, the 7300 GT has a 70 mm fan on it and still runs, the HD 4870 had a pair of 80mm for a while, but it took up too much space, so it's back to it's stock fan.
Although your eBay Purchase wasn’t great at least the Seller seemed fairly amicable in attempting to resolve the issue, I do my utmost to work with Buyers / Sellers if there are issues so at least the Buyer / Seller will be happy at the end of the day although there are a small minority that you can never please no matter how hard you try! Nice Video btw! 🙂 Anthony - Birmingham
More Gpu lootbox videos please also that EVGA GTX 580 HD is actually a pretty rare model i would try putting it the oven and reflowing it along with that GTX 460 as well you have nothing to lose by doing so
Yeah, reflow might help here, looks like the either the connection to memory or possibly an actual bad memory chip. I'd guess 95% fixable. Forget the oven crap though, do it properly with lots of flux and the right soldering tip.
A 20 for content of THIS quality is a steal. FROM you, not FOR you.
TBH you have amused me enough to earn another video view of other videos. Take it as a win. I am.
And I would love to see you attempt card repair. Might want to brush up on the more recent techniques. NW Repair goes into the weeds but he does have some idea what he is doing.
Your renaissance has been quite enjoyable as you muck about in these older systems. Please, by all means, continue, sir. Thank you.
when he says "thats still good today" and i feel like i'm from his future 🤯
yes we want to see it - try to bring em back :)
You might be able to fix the cards by making a flux out of rosin and isopropyl alcohol, then cooking them in the oven at the correct temperature. The flux makes sure the solder joints actually bond properly. The lines on the screen show ram errors, they could be a solder joint gone bad.
Many years ago I was able to snatch a 9800 XXL thanks to a lot with no guarantees.
Can't complain, it still works perfectly.
X1950 (pro in my case)brings back great memories for sure.
This is a good example of the polar opposite of picking up a bargain on eBay 😆
The 460s are a pain in the butt for SLI. They had 3 revisions and only 1 and 2 are compatible with each other in SLI. I ended up with 5 learning this. Rev 1/2 has a 256 bit bus. Then the Gtx 560 came out which was just an overclocked 460 so they nerfed the Rev3 460s with a 192 bit bus.
Jack the GTX 570 in the oven it will work I've done it with a GTX 670 ti and it was completely dead and now it's working so try it and if it's not that I know little components what can causes that
Not sure the hairdryer will do anything - stick it in the oven instead to see if it helps reflow the solder!
X1950Pro AGP was the first graphics card i bought for my self. To run flight Simulator X. Good card in it's day
This is how i always imagine buying these gpu bundles would look like.
Many years ago I bought a used ATi X1950XTX. For a brief time it was the fastest, most powerful video card - in the world - (you have to say those last three words like Jeremy Clarkson). It ran unbearably hot, and lasted only a few months before it started artifacting, too. I suspect the previous owner OC'd the living hell out of it.
So, the Radeon VE is even slower than a Rage 128 Pro?
And now it's time for a round of baking in the oven for the other cards?
It's generally a good idea to replace the thermal paste on those old gpus. I scored a rtx 2060 on ebay with a bent bracket for $60.
Did something similar a while back, but seemingly with way more luck. I at least scored a 4870 and 8800 GT out of it, and they both worked. And an 8800 GTX that seems to work when it feels like it.
"Will it run Crysis?"
If that GPU could talk it would be BEGGING for mercy.
For those GTX 5xx cards, a lot had an IHS on top of the GPU die and the paste ubderneath would dry out and force reduced clock speed. I had quad SLI GTX 580's and chose to RMA them instead of popping the IHS myself.
Eventually, i had four stable at stock clocks and all of those finalcopies came w/o the IHS and ran great until I retired that system
Oh,i DO liked it.
"How is it don't work,it has nothing on it!!"
Some real computing hours today boys, girls, and enbies.