My main camera is the Z5 and i have no what idea you and the other so called experts are saying about it. The camera is a work horse and takes beautiful photos. Why would i or anyone who wants a quality photo need to shoot a photo at 25,000 iso. Its beyond me why people want to shoot at such high iso photos.
Hello! I´ve been thinking about buying this z5 and since you have it I want to ask you how is the autofocus in low light places. Sometimes I do photoshoots at events and take pics in very low light places were autofocus must not fail me. is it good? thank you!
my main camera is now a medium format but z50 is always with me. As much as I love the output of my main camera I end up making more pictures with z50.
This is an interesting dilemma. From what I've seen on RUclips the Z5 iso performance is equal to the Z6. So is $400 more worth it? Now what about the Z6ii another $400? Better focusing, iso performance and CF/SD slots. If you were an enthusiast where would you lean? The Z6II seems the winner to me honestly, the Z6 was $2000 for a long time. BUT the catch is lots of back ordered. Dont know if I want to wait 3+ months for the 6ii.
Also , the Z5 occasionally comes down to $999. That's tough to ignore. I have the Z5 as a backup to my Z6II, but I shoot mainly portraits and events. I do landscape for fun.
I have both the z5 and z50 both amazing camera's, very happy with those photomachines, the z6 is also a fantastic camera but it's not only 400 extra but also a 150 more for a memory card so that is 550 dollars more.
Cool that you're digging those. I would recommend the Z50 to anyone in a heartbeat at it's price point and feature set. I carry mine all the time. I still can't recommend the Z5 to my viewers though. It just makes too many compromises for the price in my opinion for a full frame buyer. Everything full frame comes at a higher price from the glass and bodies on down. I always advise shooters on a budget to stay APS-C or smaller. You get a lot more for your dollar there. I hear ya on the cost of CF-Express, but again... CF Express has tremendous advantages in speed as well as durability.
For my private use i have always a small bag with me: Nikon Z5, Nikon Z50, 2x FTZ Adapter and 10-20DX,18-200DX, 20/1.8FX, 50/1.8FX and 85/1.8FX a old flash SB-900 for every camera 5 Batterys and 20 SD Cards a 128GB from Sandisk in a flipcase.
I take pictures as a hobby and I am deciding between a Z5 and Z50. Do you think the Z5 is worth the extra money? RUclipsrs seem to speak more highly of the Z50 but I have also heard full-frame sensors introduce a large increase in quality
Have we not lived well with Non-BSI sensors for over two decades? I'm sorry but it's almost a dis-service to make a video about the Z5 and why it's not a good purchase and not actually use it. There are many (me included) who have never owned a BSI sensor body and done very well during this whole digital photography era, and many of us do not care to shoot above 3200 ISO for obvious reasons and also don't care about FPS. I want to know about image quality in its intent and how it compares to the IQ of the Z6 and if it could be a decent FF back-up. Dismissing it as a quality camera without even touching it is quite disappointing to hear
I totally agree with you. I have a D750 and love the high iso from it, about 6400 love them.If the z5 Will do the same, for me is more than enough. Trolling a camera without testing, I don't get it. I plan buy a z5 till the end of the year, I hope.
I agree. I didn't use the top display on the Z7. I hardly use the LCD on mirrorless with the great EVF. The Z5 outshoots the Z50 by a decent margin, but I like having both for the same reasons you like the D850 and D500 (which I had and loved.) You save a lot by not having to buy $400 of CFE cards and a reader you'll need for the Z6. Almost enough for another Z lens. The difference between BSI and non-BSI just isn't that large in practical use or technical terms. I didn't plan on keeping both. No lie, I'm watching the Z6 II closely for that dual processor! I'm still in the return window for my Z5 ;)
You will not the regret that swap I predict. You'll also never look back after the first cfexpress or XQD card you buy. Both z5 to z6 and SD to XQD are huge upgrades.
I own the z6 and z5 I can tell you right now the z6 is not as better in low light as you may think the shadows are just a tad bit cleaner at the really high isos dynamic range is better on the z5 no green shift and the banding patterns are not as apparent low light is not an issue on the z5.
Z5 or Z50 For me Z50 is better than z5 for photos and videos. But it has only 1 card slot and the z5 has dual card slots. Is it a deal breaker I usually do potraits and events
If you can afford it... The Z6 or z6ii for events would slay. You'd not believe that sensor's low light high iso ability. The dual slots are really a funny complaint. I've never had my cards run in backup mode ever. Video on one stills and overflow on the other. We never had dual film rolls in the old days and got by somehow. Just be careful with your media and retiree worn older cards and you're fine. :)
I'd strongly consider the z6. It's a wonderful camera. So versatile and epic in low light. I love mine. I own the D850 D500 z50 z6 and z7 and I recommend the z6 to most of the photographers I coach. It's a joy to use.
What lens do you recommend for a Nature/Bird photog wanting to try landscape? Would be going on a Z6ii… 24-70 f/4? Trying to be reasonable about budget. Thx!
Thanks Hudson, great information on the Z5. I was halfway tempted to get it, but your identifying marks make it easy to pass on. Wholeheartedly agree. My dilemma though, is the DSLR to mirror less move. I have the 2 beasts (850 /500), and love them dearly. I am not sure I can bring myself to sell them in order to move to the Z6/7. Yet, I don't want to invest in more F type lenses either. Uggghhhh. The Z6/Z7 have all I want and I know they are workhorses too. So, I guess my question is; you still have the 850/500. Are you actively shooting with those? And if so, is it much reduced with your mirror less models getting the big workouts? Thanks for any advice :-). Keep up the great work
Hey Rob, It's funny. I'd have to report the exact opposite. I haven't used the D850 in a long time. I'm planning to sell it. I find myself hitting the center of the D-pad to zoom to 100% in the viewfinder, hitting play to view images or menu to change settings in the viewfinder. What I still do use is the D500. There isn't a Z equivalent. It's group AF mode is still tops for fast erratic action and the incredible frame rate and buffer are wonderful. Sony has a camera in the A9 that does keep up, but Nikon is a step away still. That said, I can shoot action very well with the Z6 and Z7, it just requires learning a new method using the rapidly evolving AF-F area mode and being more judicious with the buffer. I would avoid investing in F-mount glass, although the 105 1.4, 300 and 500 PFs are unlikely to be superseded anytime soon. I don't see ditching those. What I'd consider if I were you is a Z6 with a 24-70 F4 and or a 50 1.8. You'll fall in love with that and it will be your low light and knock around weapon. Then when a Z7s or Z8 arrives, you can trade up the 850. ;-) I had shot a lot of mirrorless systems from Panasonic to Fuji to Sony and when Nikon announced the 6 and 7. I thought I'd review the 6, hate it, send it back and do a video about how optical is still king. To my surprise I couldn't put the 6 down. Even with it's early FW 1.0 autofocus weakness. The viewfinder was just outrageously amazing. Instead I bought a Z7 and my once beloved 850 has languished on the shelf. If you do buy new gear, I'd so appreciate your considering my links. It helps a bit especially now when I can't be out doing what I love, teaching workshops. www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks thanks so much.
Hudson Henry Photography Wow, thanks so much for the detailed reply Hudson, much appreciated! You make some solid sense 😎, and waiting on the upgrade to the Z7 is a good plan. And i will consider your links for sure 👍
Enjoyed the video... thanks... I recently purchased (June '21) the Z5 with 24-50 for $1250 and got the FTZ for $100. I am thrilled with the Z lineup. Switching from Olympus to the z5 has been a game changer for me. Oh, I do portrait work so some of what you mention doesn't really affect me. I am looking for a second body for backup and your video really helps regarding the z50 information. Thanks again!
Feels like Nikon's targeting the D70/D90/D7xxx/D6xx folks to dip a toe into mirrorless with the Z5. Very similar specs/FPS, full-frame. Totally agree that for most of your audience (hi, hello!) the Z6 is the better choice. I know that one of the things I'd longed for was more than 5.5 FPS for action. Z6 gives me that (and more things to cull through!). I don't think the Z5 would make me take notice.
I Disagree. The Z5 is substantially cheaper than the Z6 and the z50 is nearly the same price as the z5. At least that’s the case here In Australia. The difference in low light performance cf the z6 very small. Burst mode is not needed for everyone. 1.7 crop is only for 4K. The Z5 is the cheapest way to get into full frame and utilise those amazing 1.8s primes. The Z5 brilliant and does things that no other can at that price point.
Hello! newbie here, planning to get my first camera. my target field is Portraits/wedding/street photography, a bit of action/sports like motocross / rodeo games. Im opted to get z5, since i can save a lot for the body then buy 2-3pcs Z lens, but my only concern in realworld use is the 4.5fps of Z5, is it capable of getting good photos of action?Choosing between z5 or z6II.. hope you can share some insights. Thanks!
Z6ii! Period. Frame rate, build quality, and low light capability from the backlit sensor. All of those things will prove incredibly valuable to the type of photography you love. The Z5 is a budget full frame body (which makes no sense to me as full frame lenses cost much more than DX lenses). If you want full frame, dont' skimp on the sensor and processing power. If you're on a budget, get the Z50 where you can afford a wide array of glass. For what you want though. Opting for the Z6ii and getting a 50 1.8 for event work will blow your mind. I allow that body's Auto ISO to run to 20,000 and get epic results when run through DXO Pure RAW. It's that backlit sensor. The Z5 doesn't have it. I've got links to all that I use and reccomend right here. Thanks in advance if you use them. www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
@@HudsonHenryPhoto what the f?..20k iso? What lens did you use? Hows the noise on the final image output?..yeaah ill go with z6II..i think ill get 15-30 f4 z lens first..is it good?..
Id go z6 if you can. Z50 if not. Much more bang for the buck in APS-C glass. I just don't think the budget limited are well served jumping into full frame and the z6 and Z6ii have serious build and performance advantages over the 5 that more than warrant the extra $$ if you have it. If not stick with APS-C. You'll have much more available glass at better prices. The Z50 is a fantastic little machine that beats the z5 in burst shooting and video capability.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for the clarification. I am budget limited. I want to enter the mirrorless ecosystem and I think z50 would be the right start, however, I really hope Nikon releases something new in APS-C line-up as Z50 is kinda old imo.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto but what about the dual card slots? That is why i confused what is my next camera the nikon z50 or nikon z5 For me nikon z50 is better than the z5 but it has 1 card slot and the z5 has 2 dual card slots?
Hudson, I watched one of your posts that you told us how to adjust the focus on each lens but I can’t find it or I just keep passing it up. Could you tell me which one it is and what the software is called that does it automatically? I loved that video and information. I don’t own a laptop so I bought longer cords to set it up with my desk top. Thanks and I appreciate your effort and all your posts. Thanks, Greg
I feel the same way as you about the Z5, however, Richard Wong did a lot of testing of the Z5 and found that it performs similarly to a mirrorless D750 in that it has NO BANDING, even when really pushed. This won't matter to the vast majority of shooters, but to a landscape photographer like myself who likes to do a lot of panos in very low light (like after sunset), where I cannot use bracketing (panos while light is quickly fading) I will tell you that I miss the performance of my trusty old D750 sometimes when shooting with my Z7. I can't bring up the shadows in my after-sunset panos anymore the way I used to with the D750. I am considering getting a Z5 strictly for low light, low ISO (golden hour tripod work) shooting.
The Z6 is so baller in low light. I'm sure the 5 isn't bad, the 750 I had a few years ago was very good, but wow is the 6 better than anything I've used excepting maybe the D5.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Wow, well I was already seriously considering the Z6 for video, and that just adds to the argument for the Z6s! Thanks for your reply Hudson.
For parts of the world where $ is very important, the Z5 makes a good starter wedding and event camera. For those that can afford the z6, I agree that it's better to go z6. I love my z50 as a walk around camera
I don't see the Z6 being that affordable, but maybe I'm not looking at it right. I think if the budget is tight, the DSLR world might be a good place to hang out for a year or two. That 4.5 fps would bother me in events and if there was any way to budget for the z6's insane 20+ thousand ISO performance event shooters certainly would be well served doing so.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Agreed. I suppose Nikon felt they needed an option to sell against the canon eos rp. Dual sd and Ibis for those on the fence about getting into mirrorless ff and not wanting to go xqd. I agree there is no benefit for those already in the mirrorless Nikon space. The D750 is a great dslr in this space and the z5 may be a good alternative. There are also those casual shooters that want full frame, like the ease of mirrorless and don't want to spend over 2k for a basic setup. This camera may make sense with the z6s/z7s and z8/9 releases which may push up the prices of ff z cameras with a lot of higher end features. Nikon is playing it safe to make sure they have affordable bodies and glass. Canon mirrorless ff lenses are expensive as are panasonic.
No I have only spent a little time with the RP. I'd put it way under the Z6 for viewfinder, ergonomics, UI and build quality. I'd really urge the Z6 over the Z5. I'm not planning to test one. The key things that make the Z6 rock are missing and it's not enough savings to warrant stepping down.
Hi, Hudson. I can't remember if you've commented on how you'd compare your new Leofoto legs versus your long-time favourite Gizto GT5543XLS? IIUC, the Leofoto legs are lighter and can go just as tall but for a lot less $$.
I honestly think they are better built Peter. The mechanisms (say to lock and loosen the systematic top in place) are better thought out and the spider is CNC machined instead of cast and dipped. Leofoto is a brand on the rise. Mark my words. They are gunning for the best of the best at a lower cost and starting to innovate, not just copy. It's drool worthy. I'm VERY pleased.
So impressed with your gut feeling on the Z5. Even though I initially disagreed with it, and I'm glad I subscribed either way. Can't wait for the Z6II. I'm first on the list with one seller!
I went for the Z5 over the Z50 as I have a lot of the same batteries from my 7100 and the Z50 is a new battery system and hard if not impossible to get new ones. I was going to go for the Z6 but then I don't do video and well the XQD cards are just tooo expensive. The Z5 just feels great and even with the 24-50 lens it gives me so much more than my 7100 and even using the ftz with a few of the DX lenses I have are great
Glad you're liking it. I would still highly recommend the Z50 if price limited for most folks. Especially if you are using DX lenses already. It's a huge resolution loss shooting in DX mode on full frame. With the Z5 you drop to 10MP with a DX lens. Everything about the full frame world is much more expensive. Glass, cards, you name it. You just get much more bang for the buck with APS-C and DX optics if price is the limiting factor. Add in the fact that the 50 has a much larger buffer, frame rate, and more balanced video options and I can't with good conscience recommend the 5 to those on a budget. The 50 is a great deal.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto like I said getting more batteries for the Z50 are like finding hen's teeth here in the UK. And as I was going to go full frame, was going to go for a 750, I decided on the Z5 as it is just better for me. Also now that lenses are being made by third parties they will be cheaper and there is a great second hand market for full frame S and F lenses
Hudson once again always a pleasure to listen and watch, as you state (and I have) the Z6 and Z50 do make a great combination. Still have my D500 with the 300 PF which makes a great camera for nature photography....
Good video. I agree that for your customer base the Z5 is not a good deal. That is not the same as saying that it is a bad camera. I think that there is a market for the camera, particularly after the Z6 is largely replaced by the Z6s. As always thanks for the great video. I’m looking forward to seeing the pictures from the new 70-200
I totally agree. Not a bad camera, but tough to recommend to my audience sitting between the Z50 and Z6. I personally prefer the Z50 when recommending a starter camera for a number of reasons and the 6 has some really strong advantages.
Just got the Z5 with the FTZ adapter. Where I live it costs me 1550 USD. The Z6 with adapter would have cost me 1750 USD. Except that it's not in store anymore, so I would have had to get it outside our tax free zone, which would have cost me 1900 USD. That's without memory cards. They cost 150 USD per card, cheapest price. Wanting to have at least two, I would have had to add an additional 300 USD. Plus card reader (90 USD). Even if I would have been able to get the cheapest price, the Z6 would have cost me almost 600 USD more than the Z5. I'm not a video shooter, nor do I need more than the 4.5 fps shutter speed. That said, hadn't it been for the crazy price for the memory cards for the Z6, I probably would have spent that extra money. But to get two 32GB memory cards for 300 USD, which wouldn't cover all my shooting situations - so would have to add additional cards, just raises the price too much for me. I was considering the Z50, but leaving Fujifilm I wanted a camera where I could see the difference. The Z system seems really promising, and the images I've shot so far are on a whole different level.
AS long as you're enjoying it. :-) That's what counts. As I frequently say... All the cameras now are really amazing. I do think the 6 is worth the extra for 90% of the people considering full frame. The reality is that if you really delve into the full frame world and get excited and grow, then the glass you lust after and buy will make the cost of the cameras, cards and readers very small by comparison. Good full frame glass just doesn't come cheap. I'm a HUGE fan of the Z6 sensor in low light and I've got zero use for SD cards after years with XQD and CF-Express speed and robust build quality. There will be more bodies and new sensors coming. There always are. I predict CF-Express will become a new standard in all higher end cameras moving forward. Some brands will stick to CF Type A's SD size form, but that limits the speed to 50% of Type B's dual bus architecture. More and more brands will adopt Type B to ease the internal memory requirements for larger buffers and faster frame rates by having much faster throughput speed. I've had so many SD failures over the years. Never a XQD or CF Express.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto if I'd be a professional, I would have spend the extra money for the Z6 or Z6 II, no doubt about it. And I do agree with everything you write. What I failed to add, is that the Z5 is an amazing camera for someone, who switches to Nikon, who has a lot of memory cards, and who isn't professional. I switched from Fujifilm, and as much as I love the X-T3 and thoughts behind it, from what I've experienced with the Z5 so far, it just is on a whole different level. Yes, for high paced photography where I need the high fps, or for the person doing videography, who has a gimbal and all the other necessary stuff, the X-T3 is probably a better choice. But if I want IBIS and a sturdy camera (I mean, the X-T3 is not exactly a plastic camera, so not saying it isn't robus), which gives you a lot of good options for customizability as well as being able to fully operate it with just one hand, you could go with the X-H1, but then again, you could also go with the Z5 and get great image quality and amazing lenses. I hated the way the Xtrans sensor renders the images. Most people don't see it, but some do, and I'm one of them. There's something about how it renders the transition between details, which makes it look muddy or plasticky. And it only gets less pronounced with really sharp lenses, and since they anyway cost the same as the Z lenses, why not spend that money and go full frame? The autofocus isn't that great with fujifilm, unless you get the more expensive lenses. Again, leaving me with l reason to stay with Fujifilm really. I used manual lenses a lot, but while the focus peaking is good, it's not perfect on the Fuji cameras. And my two favorite manual lenses are the two Voigtlander SLIIS, 40mm and 58mm, which are made for Nikon, so they work perfectly on the Z5 (of course would have done so on all of the Z cameras). The thing with Fujifilm though is that the brand caters a lot to photographers like me, who are not action shooters, but more into slower photography like documentary, street, etc. But with the prices of their higher end cameras, we are anyway spending the same amount as if we went full frame. So I was wondering why I wouldn't just do that. Honestly, I was contemplating switching to MFT, for the features of the Panasonic and Olympus cameras, and if Nikon had chosen the same strategy as Canon price wise, or made cameras the same way as Sony - and if MFT gear hadn't been insanely difficult to get where I live, I probably would have gone with MFT. But I'm so happy that Nikon made a camera like the Z5, which allowed me to get a full frame camera which seems to be perfect for me, so I can experience the difference between what you can do with an APS-C camera and what you can do with a full frame camera. I still don't think that you can't create amazing photos with smaller sensors, but actually trying to use a full frame camera myself, I get the difference. I strongly considered the Z50, and I probably would have gone with it in the end, if the Z5 hadn't been there, or I would have thought to myself that there would have been no idea in switching from one APS-C system to another, and maybe have just bought used MFT gear. The Z5 saved me 😁 I feel that the Z5 is perfect to pull in people like me to the system. I have no idea how many of us exist, but I have a feeling that if those Fuji shooters, who care about the aesthetics of our images would be exposed to what the Z5 has to offer, and we compare prices, then I think there would be many, who would be tempted to make the switch. As a side note, regarding the two voigtlander lenses. It's insane to see the difference between the results on the X-T3 and the Z5. You really see which sensor they were made for and how sharp they really are, not to talk about how beautifully they render on a Nikon sensor. I know that they cater for a bit different kind of photography than what you're doing, but if you ever get the chance, you should check them out.
The 16-50 & 50-250 gave such good built in vr as do the 70-200 and 500pf/FTZ that I dont notice it. Yes, I'd love a more pro built dx Z, but it will be bigger and cost much more. :)
Hudson, your insights are what I was looking for. The BSI sensor providing lower-light capability, and IBS appear to be the primary advantages of the Z6 over the Z5 for stills. I'm not so sure that a 6S would add much more additional value for me. Unfortunately, if I buy a Z6 I'll need to sacrifice my D500 and DX lenses for financial reasons and I like the D500 a lot. No real wrong option, just different ones. Thanks for listening.
Yeah... It's tough to dump the 500 Al. Maybe a Z50 just to play with the mirrorless or wait a bit. I sure hope a top gun APS-C z camera is coming. It was a long long wait for that D500 you and I both love.
The Z5 does have IBIS. I agree, I would NOT say the Z systems can match the D500 yet. Especially with the value of AF-P lenses. I sure miss the snappy feel and sound of the D500's shutter! However, most of the time I get better exposures and take better photos with the Z5 or even the Z50 (at higher ISO's though.) I experiment more with metering modes and settings with the EVF. I no longer image review and can change EVERY setting without taking the camera away from my eye. The few times I got better photos with the D500 I didn't feel the difference was unacceptable. Had I not seen the photos side-by-side I wouldn't have even really known.
Im thinking of going from d750 to Z5 with adapter, after trade in of a few things its about 300$, while the z6 would be closer to 1000 after i have to buy an xqd and the adapter. Thats too much of a price gap for me
Not sure if you'd get the low light performance you're used to with that sensor. Read some comparisons. Maybe close...? The 750 is a lowlight beast. The Z6 even more so. They cut costs on the Z5 by not having the backlit sensor... Hard to say.
As usual a great video!! My question is if anyone should buy any Nikon with the rumors intensifying about their financial condition in the photographic division. (A rumor sounded for some time now) There are rumors the NPS is non-active and predictions that they may be heading down the same path as Olympus. In regards to your video I think I will stick with my Z50 instead of considering a Z5. Best wishes Duane
Well Duane, I predict we'll look back and laugh at that some years from now. I responded to you in another thread about this with a comment about all the Hasselblad obituaries that have been written over the past decade. Nikon is a much more valuable brand. It's not about to disappear and it's engineering and building cameras more durable, fun and usable than anyone else. Sony fans love to gloat about the numbers, but they are shrinking for everyone. Despite that, I predict Nikon is not following Kodak and Minolta any time soon. The Z product line is new but evolving faster than other brands and the lenses are just drop dead unbelievable. They have the right mount and reverse compatibility. You can adapt everyone els's glass to it, but it's flange width and distance gives advantages that are clear with each S lens released. They're epic. You can't put those lenses on any other brand bodies because they are wider and shorter flanged. It only works the other way round.
Hudson, I really enjoy your videos. Informative. Honest. Positive. I still love, with a capital L, my D850 and its 2.8 F glass. Its an amazing camera. That said, I took the leap into the Z system with the Z6. The prime lenses have blown me away. The 14-30mm has already become a favourite. Even the 24-200mm is a great walking around lens. Like you, I believe that the Z5 is simply too close in price to the Z6, not to opt for the better machine. As a backup, I too would go for the Z50. I am sufficiently smitten by the lighter and capable Z6, that I have started saving for the upgraded Z7 that is supposed to be coming. Go ahead Nikon....take my money.
With the new no fee cancellations introduced last week by the major airlines within the US, you might want to reintroduce some workshops middle of next year!
I still haven’t made the Z jump yet. When I get around to buying a second body it will be either the Z6 or Z7 or given my level of procrastination the updated model
$400 over the Z5 plus $200 for an xqd card makes the Z6 $600 more - if you don't need more than 4.5 shots per second burst and in tests the BSI sensor in the Z6 is not significantly better in low light than the Z5 the $600 saving would be better spent on a decent prime lens.
CF-Express is so worth investing in. You'll never want to mess with an SD again. If the budget is really tight, go APS-C every time. You get more bang for the buck in every single department. THe Z50 is a better choice for the budget conscious. If you want full frame everything gets more expensive and you'll be buying CF-express soon anyway. You'll curse the money spent on those slow, fragile SDs down the road. As for low light, I let the Z6(ii) sensors run up to 20,000 ISO as my auto limit and it's very very correctable. Not sure who's judging the ISO equivalence, but I don't think it's much of a horserace. :-)
Nice thoughts/perspective. Most of my work is concert photography and my primary shooter has been the D750. I expect (unless it doesn't live up to the rumored specs) to get a Z6s when it becomes available, but my D750 has developed some issues that likely mean I'll have to get a replacement before the Z6s is available. Struggling with the decision of how much to spend "now" to only spend a pile more when the Z6s comes along. You've provided some good reasons to pull the Z5 off my consideration list.
The 6 is amazing, particularly in low light. The s will be an incremental adjustment, but no sensor change I hear. Watch my latest vid on kitesurf shooting for how good the auto area AF has gotten in the Zs in firmware 3.1. The eye/face detect will be epic for you.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto for me, the primary benefit of the Z6s over the Z6 (if rumors are true) is the second card slot. So long as it's at least as good as the 6 in other regards, that's the one I want. :) having said that, what are your thought on the low-light performance of the Z7?
With XQD's robust build quality I've never put an SD in my D500 or 850s second slot. I've never heard a credible story of one failing. I've been using the same two 128 GB XQD's for about 4 years as my primary with never a hiccup. I know some people really care, but I'd only feel the need if I was stuck with flimsy SD cards again. :) if they give it to us, I'll set it to overflow. The 7's noise performance is as bad as the D850. The 6's is better than the d750 you rightfully love for that work. It's on par or really close to the D5.
Thank you so much for the review. I was waiting for the Z5 to be available where I live , but you praise so much the Z50 that I might end up getting it for now and get a D700 for portraits with shallow depth of field... Or take the jump and get a Z6+24-70 combo (With ftz and xqd)
Great Analysis, I have one question, I was reading several reviews that the Z50 has a BSI sensor I talked to Nikon and they refused to agree or disagree and they said it is proprietary information and that I should seek independent review such as DPReview. please advise
That's really odd. Who at nikon told you that? I never looked into it. I didn't expect a $900 body to be BSI. DP Review says it is, but I take that with a grain of salt. I don't know either. Weird. All I can say is that it does a surprisingly good job in low light, much like the D500. I wonder if they aren't versions of the same sensor.
Even DP Review has backed off their original BSI claim. In a thread about the Z50, one person claims that Nikon verified that it’s just a regular CMOS sensor, not BSI. There are lots of posts on YT saying the low light performance is just so-so. But, nobody should be buying this for that purpose - it’s currently the only Z-mount DX game in town, and I enjoy mine for grandkid snapshots and videos, but for anything demanding, I still grab my Z6 and/or Z7.
@@carlmarch603 I imagine they just unwittingly typed BSI without checking. I'd be really surprised to see BSI at this price point. I will say that mine does a better job in low light than I expected though, much like the D500. I was pleasantly surprised while not being blown away. :-)
Agreed. Nikon lists all the Z-series sensors as CMOS under tech specs. However, in the overview sections for each camera on the Nikon USA website, they highlight the BSI sensor for the Z6 and Z7. Might be some trademark or contractual issue with the sensor supplier (Sony) to not list it in the tech specs.
Hudson, luv you man but I think you are off base on the Z 5. Believe it or not there are some serious photographers that do not gave a rat's ass about shooting video with a DSLR or mirrorless system. I am proudly one of those photographers. I have not purchased a mirrorless system yet, but I did get a chance to demo a Z 50 and it felt like a toy in my hands. My main crop sensor Nikon's are a D300s and a D7100 both with grips. The Z 5 will come down in price very soon and it will provide thousands of photographer's with an excellent entry level full frame mirrorless camera as the D610 did in the DSLR vane. Just the mere fact that Nikon is going to release a S version of the Z 6/7 shows they made a huge mistake by not including dual card slots and a fully functional battery gtip.
You should spend some more time with the z50. It's a more powerful little toy in many ways than you might imagine. I'd recommend it as a starter or budget camera over the Z5 any time. Optics are cheaper and smaller too. I love having that in my pocket or ski bag. Give me a single XQD over dual SDs any day of the week. I've yet to hear of an XQD failure. I never put a SD in my 850 or 500's 2nd slot. Slow and fragile is how I think of them. I've been shooting on nothing but two 128GB XQD's for the past 100,000 frames (I love time lapse too) and hundreds of hours of videos with not a single hiccup. None of my friends have had any either. Before XQD, I had two CF and at least half a dozen SD failures. I've never used a grip on any camera ever. One came free with my D700. I passed it on with the camera still still sealed in it's original package. I use a tether tools dummy battery and a power brick if I need more battery. That lasts for weeks and isn't awkward and bulky. Smaller is my favorite. I'll stick by my guns on this one. I wasn't a big fan of the D610 either. I had it for the shortest time I've ever owned a Nikon body. Like the Z6 to the Z5, I just thought the 750 was a much better camera for the money difference. The 750 was epic in low light almost like the Z6 or D5 (which is just too big for me to lug into rough country). Like the Z5 the 610 had really bad video limitations too, not a big deal for someone who shoots no video, but video is a major consideration for many today. Different tastes make the world interesting. I totally respect those who disagree, but I stand my my assessment that for my audience as a whole, the Z5 is more than $400 less valuable than the z6. The low light prowess of the Z6s sensor is so good. Filming is another topic, but if it doesn't matter to you, I still couldn't recommend foregoing the 6's build, frame rate, and low light for $400. That's my strong opinion.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Hudson, thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my comment especially with all that is going on in Oregon with the wildfires. I have a cousin in Eugene ,she has some health issues and I am very concerned and have urged her to get out of town until the aqi returns to normal. Maybe a little more background on my photography career and journey will help you understand where I am coming from. My journey with Nikon began in the '70's with Nikon FTN. I did have the honor to shoot a grand total of 1 wedding with the FTN and then 15 with a 500 C/M. I great pleasure for 25 plus years to shoot local high school, college and youth sports and was a full time "sub" for two local weekly papers and every once in a while one of the parent daily papers. Nikon F2A, Nikon F3HP and then what I consider the single greatest SLR ever made the Nikon F4s. Both the F3HP and F4s had drives. I love big bodies and can not go back now. I have come full circle and now I am shooting my grandchildrens youth sports just for fun not professionally. I also never had a card failure, but I lost one out of my D300. Full disclosure I still reach for my D700 more than all my other bodies when I am not shooting action. I never owned a D600/610 I was just using the model as an example. My current line up is D300, D300s, D7100, D700 and D750 and more legacy AI, AIS and "D" glass then you can shake a stick at and a good deal of modern glass. One of the things that brings a great smile to my face is when my two sons show the other parents who are taking pictures with smartphones and PNS my images and they almost always ask how did he get such great action photos....
They've got plenty of DSLRs that do that, but I haven't used the 2nd slot in any of them since the XQD came out. I don't know of anyone's XQD cards failing. They're virtually bulletproof. I know it's a hangup for folks. I could care less about the 2nd slot personally unless it's a single flimsy SD slot. I'll take one XQD over 2 SDs any day of the week. :)
Then there's the weather sealing, durability and backlit sensor's low light insanity that the Z5 doesn't have... Well worth the price difference to jump to the 6 every day of the week in my book. If price is really the pinch point the APS-C world is much more enticing. The Z50 with 16-50 and 50-250 is an unbelievable deal that I love to use on a regular basis.
Absolutely. If price is important you'll get easy more bang for the buck with APS-C with every lens you buy. It has faster frame rate, bigger buffer, just as good a viewfinder and AF as the z5, 6 or 7 and way better video chops. The kit 16-50 is a gem of a surprise. If you want to spend the money to step up to full frame, then the z6 is worth every extra cent and more in my book. That sensor is gold in really low light. It's built like a tank and weather sealed. Plus it's a stellar video camera.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto besides the 16-55mm and the 55-250mm, which other APS-C lenses from the Z system are there, which are not full frame? If you anyway buy into the Z system and purchase the lenses which otherwise are are for full frame, how much more budget option is there really to the Z50 then?
Like the dslr line, the high end focus is on FX lenses, but there is an 18-140 on the short term roadmap. Right now you've got the FX equivalent of 24-375mm in the 2 affordable zoom lenses on offer and they're way better than you'd expect. There's a ton of nice older Nikkor DX glass out there like the 12-24 that will work great on the FTZ. Tons of good budget options already really.
Here it is sir Z70-200/2.8 s is Ridiculous. The responsiveness; the weight compared to my VR 2; the Inate sharpness! It balances very well on my Z6. The bokeh is like 3D man the colors are sensational. Also theAF is quicker as well I don’t know the % but it is noticeably quicker than with FTZ Adapter on my VR2 A monster Winner from Nikon
I ordered on January 6th too at about 1am when I was up in the night and saw the link for NPS members. NPS has a different que. They set some aside for us. It's not head of the line, it's just a different and slightly faster line. :-) Hard to call 8 months fast though, LMAO.
I think as an entry camera into full frame then its probably ideal and will keep lots of wedding photographers happy because of the dual slots. From what I’ve seen thus far the absence of a back lit sensor doesn’t seem to be that much of a problem but it all comes down to what you need. I do agree with you but give it a few months and the price will fall as it did with the z6 and 7 and then it will make much more sense.
Maybe so. I think it would need to in order to be considered entry level. I personally will take a single XQD over the dual SD any day of the week, but I know a lot of folks hang up on that. I never put an SD in the 2nd slot of my D850 or D500. XQD is so robust.I've never heard of a failure let alone had one. The sensor in the 6 is special. I'd really urge folks to save extra for it.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto XQD & CFE doesn't work in every market around the world, it's a big negative factor for a brand like Nikon in many countries primarily because of ridiculous pricing & highly inconsistent availability. Those cards are not for consumer oriented cameras priced below 2500$ at least until the price of those cards reduces to half or even lower. I am choosing Z5 over Z6 mainly because of SD eco system.
I agree with you about the Z5. I have a Z6 and two Z50. They serve different purposes. The Z50 is a pocket camera and secondary cameras for multi-camera video shoots. Can't wait to see what the Z8/9 might be!
LeRoy Michaelson I cant wait either, it’s so exciting to see how the new technology and mount is improving our experience and that’s not to say there isn’t a place for DSLR because I think there is. Really interesting times ahead 😃
Ha. I'll take a single XQD any day over dual sd. It's a far better format. I'd like to see CF Express/XQD and SD for those who want a second, but I'm fine with a single XQD. They're fast and bombproof.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I’m thinking about mirrorless, Z5 or Z6, I don’t shoot any video(I have a d750), but not sure if I’d be happy with the Z5 lacking in low light capabilities. I’m used to the cheaper SD cards, the CFExpress are expensive. I travel a lot and probably would need 2 - 128gb cards, I guess it’s a cost up front.
I just got the Z5 selling both the D7200 and D750 and I think I fits most people needs BSI and XQD and higher FPs are good but I don't think it justify the extra cost since XQD is insanely expensive and it's mostly for video advantages (4k and 8k) I think Z5 is the best travel camera for most and can be a backup camera and the S lens blows all G lens it's a no brainer to upgrade. Rather then keeping g lens and spending it all on the body Unless comparing it to the A7iii it may lose in some features but I do think it should be given more love then a pass This should be Nikon's cash cow but everyone is killing it. By recommending the Z6 you are killing Nikon's sales since most will just get one used
Different opinions make the world more interesting. :-) Nothing wrong with that. I'll keep steering folks with the money to invest in full frame right over the Z5. If you can afford full frame glass, then the BSI, and CF-Express are more than worthwhile too, along with the framerate, dual processing, weather sealing, magnesium core, larger buffer, the list goes on. If the budget is tight, you'll always get way more bang for the buck in APS-C and in many ways I think the Z50 is a more attractive option. I really wish they'd make a D500 like Z camera though. That would put a big smile on my fast for sports and action. I remember the SD days. I lost about a card a year to them simply falling apart. I"m still using the same 128XQD I bought 4 years ago over and over and over and over. They are bombproof. The new CF-Express cards are even more bombproof and it's fun to watch 256GB fly into LR's import in seconds. :-) I would not go back to SD if they paid me to. :)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto nice yeah I do understand for most professionals the Z6ii or z6 is the minimum standard. But I do see why the Z5 exist it's just what most folks need. I'm kind of apprehensive of getting the z50 since the lens section is so limited and you'd end up using full frame lens anyways The best crop camera I feel is still Fuji the lens available for street and travel are all there D500 is more wild life camera haha so it focus APC on the zoom aspects. there are rumours a D580 is coming next year 😂 Nikon will need to match the A9 standard if they make a wildlife camera imo. XQD and CF express are still overprice for my needs
Nikon shooter for 55yrs ..... REALLY REALLY wanted the Nikon to do well BUT THE VIDEO ON YOUR YT IS SUBPAR.......Rather have FF n IBIS than a crop frame without IBIS (Z50) A5 is better than that ... Do not care bout video.... I will stay with My D850 n D750 OR a Z5 W/ IBIS n FF n HUMAN EYE AF, with new update........... OTHERWISE i RELLY ENJOY UR YT channel........
My point is that if you're looking at the much more expensive commitment to full frame, then the Z6ii is well worth the extra money. Well worth it. Better build, weather sealing, much deeper buffer, faster frame rate, insane video, backlit chip with usable 20,000 ISO output. I can't begin to recommend the Z5 to someone with the money for good full frame optics. If you're in the market for a bargain or have a limited budget, then the Z50 is a way better option. The new DX glass is cheap, great and has VR built in, the frame rate is better, the imaging is really great. There's nothing wrong with APS-C, particularly for longer lens shooting. Oh and the Z50 keeps right up in every autofocus aspect including face and eye detect. More and more of us do care about video as well and they really crippled the Z5 to save on cost there, while the Z50 does fabulous 4k full sensor video. I'm not saying anything about the Z50 being a better still camera than the Z5, I'm just saying it's the better option for those on a budget and I stand strong on that assertion.
I notice zero difference with the Z cameras than my D850, D500, D810, D800 or other cameras. I don't use the LCD that much. Using Prioritize viewfinder, I rarely ever need a second battery, unless I'm doing long exposure night work or shooting tons of frames of sports or wildlife. Just like the DSLRs. Better yet, they use the same batteries as my DSLRs (well not the Z50, but all the other Z cameras). I don't know what goes on with the CIPA testing, but every Z camera I've used and I own all but the Z5, have blown my mind with actual battery life.
In a way you're right, but if the specs of the Z5 interested me, I'd at least rent and review it for my community. The problem is that if you are really entry level, then the Z50 is a better choice for a number of reasons I state in the video. If you want to go full frame and grow as a photographer then the Z5 will limit your growth in ways that will make you want the Z6 more than $400. I can't recommend it for my audience. It's not a bad camera. It's just hemmed in by better choices. You do remind me I need to sell my 850 though. I use the 500 for action with long lenses, the Z6 mainly to film or work in low lit situations, the Z50 for a pocket or adventure camera when I don't want much weight or bulk and the Z7 is my main camera when quality matters. The 850 just sits and looks sad on my shelf...
My main camera is the Z5 and i have no what idea you and the other so called experts are saying about it. The camera is a work horse and takes beautiful photos. Why would i or anyone who wants a quality photo need to shoot a photo at 25,000 iso. Its beyond me why people want to shoot at such high iso photos.
Hello! I´ve been thinking about buying this z5 and since you have it I want to ask you how is the autofocus in low light places. Sometimes I do photoshoots at events and take pics in very low light places were autofocus must not fail me. is it good? thank you!
my main camera is now a medium format but z50 is always with me. As much as I love the output of my main camera I end up making more pictures with z50.
Cool. I guess the Z50 is just so nimble to carry around, and the image quality looks great from what I've seen.
This is an interesting dilemma. From what I've seen on RUclips the Z5 iso performance is equal to the Z6. So is $400 more worth it? Now what about the Z6ii another $400? Better focusing, iso performance and CF/SD slots. If you were an enthusiast where would you lean? The Z6II seems the winner to me honestly, the Z6 was $2000 for a long time. BUT the catch is lots of back ordered. Dont know if I want to wait 3+ months for the 6ii.
Also , the Z5 occasionally comes down to $999. That's tough to ignore. I have the Z5 as a backup to my Z6II, but I shoot mainly portraits and events. I do landscape for fun.
I have both the z5 and z50 both amazing camera's, very happy with those photomachines, the z6 is also a fantastic camera but it's not only 400 extra but also a 150 more for a memory card so that is 550 dollars more.
Cool that you're digging those. I would recommend the Z50 to anyone in a heartbeat at it's price point and feature set. I carry mine all the time. I still can't recommend the Z5 to my viewers though. It just makes too many compromises for the price in my opinion for a full frame buyer. Everything full frame comes at a higher price from the glass and bodies on down. I always advise shooters on a budget to stay APS-C or smaller. You get a lot more for your dollar there. I hear ya on the cost of CF-Express, but again... CF Express has tremendous advantages in speed as well as durability.
Can you please do a few focus tests with a7 and a11 off for me and update this thread? Thanks!
www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4528656
For my private use i have always a small bag with me: Nikon Z5, Nikon Z50, 2x FTZ Adapter and 10-20DX,18-200DX, 20/1.8FX, 50/1.8FX and 85/1.8FX a old flash SB-900 for every camera 5 Batterys and 20 SD Cards a 128GB from Sandisk in a flipcase.
I take pictures as a hobby and I am deciding between a Z5 and Z50. Do you think the Z5 is worth the extra money? RUclipsrs seem to speak more highly of the Z50 but I have also heard full-frame sensors introduce a large increase in quality
@@gregsharpe8453 Hobby = Z50 Job = Z5 you can adapt every Lenses and have redundant Shoot (Dual SD Cards) I SHOOT RAW! :)
Have we not lived well with Non-BSI sensors for over two decades?
I'm sorry but it's almost a dis-service to make a video about the Z5 and why it's not a good purchase and not actually use it.
There are many (me included) who have never owned a BSI sensor body and done very well during this whole digital photography era, and many of us do not care to shoot above 3200 ISO for obvious reasons and also don't care about FPS.
I want to know about image quality in its intent and how it compares to the IQ of the Z6 and if it could be a decent FF back-up. Dismissing it as a quality camera without even touching it is quite disappointing to hear
I totally agree with you. I have a D750 and love the high iso from it, about 6400 love them.If the z5 Will do the same, for me is more than enough. Trolling a camera without testing, I don't get it. I plan buy a z5 till the end of the year, I hope.
I agree. I didn't use the top display on the Z7. I hardly use the LCD on mirrorless with the great EVF. The Z5 outshoots the Z50 by a decent margin, but I like having both for the same reasons you like the D850 and D500 (which I had and loved.) You save a lot by not having to buy $400 of CFE cards and a reader you'll need for the Z6. Almost enough for another Z lens. The difference between BSI and non-BSI just isn't that large in practical use or technical terms. I didn't plan on keeping both. No lie, I'm watching the Z6 II closely for that dual processor! I'm still in the return window for my Z5 ;)
You will not the regret that swap I predict. You'll also never look back after the first cfexpress or XQD card you buy. Both z5 to z6 and SD to XQD are huge upgrades.
@@skyrunr just curious with your thoughts on returning the Z5 now that the Z6II is out. I'm on the fence about both at the moment.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto fair enough. right now it comes down to price and if I can sell of some gear.
I own the z6 and z5 I can tell you right now the z6 is not as better in low light as you may think the shadows are just a tad bit cleaner at the really high isos dynamic range is better on the z5 no green shift and the banding patterns are not as apparent low light is not an issue on the z5.
Z5 or Z50
For me Z50 is better than z5 for photos and videos. But it has only 1 card slot and the z5 has dual card slots. Is it a deal breaker
I usually do potraits and events
If you can afford it... The Z6 or z6ii for events would slay. You'd not believe that sensor's low light high iso ability. The dual slots are really a funny complaint. I've never had my cards run in backup mode ever. Video on one stills and overflow on the other. We never had dual film rolls in the old days and got by somehow. Just be careful with your media and retiree worn older cards and you're fine. :)
I just sold my Nikon d7200. I have no interest in another APS-C camera. What would you do? get a D850? Z6? Its so confusing right now.
I'd strongly consider the z6. It's a wonderful camera. So versatile and epic in low light. I love mine. I own the D850 D500 z50 z6 and z7 and I recommend the z6 to most of the photographers I coach. It's a joy to use.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks.
What lens do you recommend for a Nature/Bird photog wanting to try landscape? Would be going on a Z6ii… 24-70 f/4? Trying to be reasonable about budget. Thx!
You know that's a crazy sharp lens and if you want to go wider, shoot panos and get more megapixels to boot. I LOVE mine. :)
Thanks Hudson, great information on the Z5. I was halfway tempted to get it, but your identifying marks make it easy to pass on. Wholeheartedly agree. My dilemma though, is the DSLR to mirror less move. I have the 2 beasts (850 /500), and love them dearly. I am not sure I can bring myself to sell them in order to move to the Z6/7. Yet, I don't want to invest in more F type lenses either. Uggghhhh. The Z6/Z7 have all I want and I know they are workhorses too. So, I guess my question is; you still have the 850/500. Are you actively shooting with those? And if so, is it much reduced with your mirror less models getting the big workouts? Thanks for any advice :-). Keep up the great work
Hey Rob, It's funny. I'd have to report the exact opposite. I haven't used the D850 in a long time. I'm planning to sell it. I find myself hitting the center of the D-pad to zoom to 100% in the viewfinder, hitting play to view images or menu to change settings in the viewfinder. What I still do use is the D500. There isn't a Z equivalent. It's group AF mode is still tops for fast erratic action and the incredible frame rate and buffer are wonderful. Sony has a camera in the A9 that does keep up, but Nikon is a step away still.
That said, I can shoot action very well with the Z6 and Z7, it just requires learning a new method using the rapidly evolving AF-F area mode and being more judicious with the buffer. I would avoid investing in F-mount glass, although the 105 1.4, 300 and 500 PFs are unlikely to be superseded anytime soon. I don't see ditching those. What I'd consider if I were you is a Z6 with a 24-70 F4 and or a 50 1.8. You'll fall in love with that and it will be your low light and knock around weapon. Then when a Z7s or Z8 arrives, you can trade up the 850. ;-)
I had shot a lot of mirrorless systems from Panasonic to Fuji to Sony and when Nikon announced the 6 and 7. I thought I'd review the 6, hate it, send it back and do a video about how optical is still king. To my surprise I couldn't put the 6 down. Even with it's early FW 1.0 autofocus weakness. The viewfinder was just outrageously amazing. Instead I bought a Z7 and my once beloved 850 has languished on the shelf.
If you do buy new gear, I'd so appreciate your considering my links. It helps a bit especially now when I can't be out doing what I love, teaching workshops.
www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
thanks so much.
Hudson Henry Photography Wow, thanks so much for the detailed reply Hudson, much appreciated! You make some solid sense 😎, and waiting on the upgrade to the Z7 is a good plan. And i will consider your links for sure 👍
Enjoyed the video... thanks... I recently purchased (June '21) the Z5 with 24-50 for $1250 and got the FTZ for $100. I am thrilled with the Z lineup. Switching from Olympus to the z5 has been a game changer for me. Oh, I do portrait work so some of what you mention doesn't really affect me. I am looking for a second body for backup and your video really helps regarding the z50 information. Thanks again!
Feels like Nikon's targeting the D70/D90/D7xxx/D6xx folks to dip a toe into mirrorless with the Z5. Very similar specs/FPS, full-frame. Totally agree that for most of your audience (hi, hello!) the Z6 is the better choice. I know that one of the things I'd longed for was more than 5.5 FPS for action. Z6 gives me that (and more things to cull through!). I don't think the Z5 would make me take notice.
Hi Hudson. For Z6 shooters, do you consider the D500 to be a good back-up body for wildlife photography in 2020? Or would you prefer a Z50?
500. :) is so great for action and wildlife.
I Disagree. The Z5 is substantially cheaper than the Z6 and the z50 is nearly the same price as the z5. At least that’s the case here In Australia. The difference in low light performance cf the z6 very small. Burst mode is not needed for everyone. 1.7 crop is only for 4K. The Z5 is the cheapest way to get into full frame and utilise those amazing 1.8s primes. The Z5 brilliant and does things that no other can at that price point.
Hello! newbie here, planning to get my first camera.
my target field is Portraits/wedding/street photography, a bit of action/sports like motocross / rodeo games.
Im opted to get z5, since i can save a lot for the body then buy 2-3pcs Z lens, but my only concern in realworld use is the 4.5fps of Z5,
is it capable of getting good photos of action?Choosing between z5 or z6II.. hope you can share some insights. Thanks!
Z6ii! Period. Frame rate, build quality, and low light capability from the backlit sensor. All of those things will prove incredibly valuable to the type of photography you love. The Z5 is a budget full frame body (which makes no sense to me as full frame lenses cost much more than DX lenses). If you want full frame, dont' skimp on the sensor and processing power. If you're on a budget, get the Z50 where you can afford a wide array of glass. For what you want though. Opting for the Z6ii and getting a 50 1.8 for event work will blow your mind. I allow that body's Auto ISO to run to 20,000 and get epic results when run through DXO Pure RAW. It's that backlit sensor. The Z5 doesn't have it. I've got links to all that I use and reccomend right here. Thanks in advance if you use them. www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks
@@HudsonHenryPhoto what the f?..20k iso? What lens did you use? Hows the noise on the final image output?..yeaah ill go with z6II..i think ill get 15-30 f4 z lens first..is it good?..
What should I buy for aviation photography? Nikon Z5 or Z50 with crop sensor?
Id go z6 if you can. Z50 if not. Much more bang for the buck in APS-C glass. I just don't think the budget limited are well served jumping into full frame and the z6 and Z6ii have serious build and performance advantages over the 5 that more than warrant the extra $$ if you have it. If not stick with APS-C. You'll have much more available glass at better prices. The Z50 is a fantastic little machine that beats the z5 in burst shooting and video capability.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks for the clarification. I am budget limited. I want to enter the mirrorless ecosystem and I think z50 would be the right start, however, I really hope Nikon releases something new in APS-C line-up as Z50 is kinda old imo.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto but what about the dual card slots?
That is why i confused what is my next camera the nikon z50 or nikon z5
For me nikon z50 is better than the z5 but it has 1 card slot and the z5 has 2 dual card slots?
I already did. 😀 In my hands now with the 24-200. Glad I bought that kit. I wanted the 24-200 for my Z7 anyway.
Enjoy it! There's no wrong answer. :)
Do you think that the Z50 can replace the D500. I am using my D500 for my birding, and have the Z6 also.
I think, no. The Z50 is truly an entry level camera, while the D500 is the top dog of APS-C. Wait for a Z60, Z70?
Agree. You can't beat the D500 as an action wildlife APS-C cam. It's a beast.
Great review, sir! Refreshing to see someone use pen and pad; almost never see anymore with all the tech out there. And..subscribe!
Hudson, I watched one of your posts that you told us how to adjust the focus on each lens but I can’t find it or I just keep passing it up. Could you tell me which one it is and what the software is called that does it automatically? I loved that video and information. I don’t own a laptop so I bought longer cords to set it up with my desk top. Thanks and I appreciate your effort and all your posts. Thanks, Greg
You're probably looking for ATS 088, Greg: ruclips.net/video/XT1vb17IRzk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/XT1vb17IRzk/видео.html yep Reican. They rock. There's a link in that description.
@@DarrenLloydPDX thank you much and that's what I am looking for. I am a subscriber but why I could not find it or see it, I have no idea!
I feel the same way as you about the Z5, however, Richard Wong did a lot of testing of the Z5 and found that it performs similarly to a mirrorless D750 in that it has NO BANDING, even when really pushed. This won't matter to the vast majority of shooters, but to a landscape photographer like myself who likes to do a lot of panos in very low light (like after sunset), where I cannot use bracketing (panos while light is quickly fading) I will tell you that I miss the performance of my trusty old D750 sometimes when shooting with my Z7. I can't bring up the shadows in my after-sunset panos anymore the way I used to with the D750. I am considering getting a Z5 strictly for low light, low ISO (golden hour tripod work) shooting.
The Z6 is so baller in low light. I'm sure the 5 isn't bad, the 750 I had a few years ago was very good, but wow is the 6 better than anything I've used excepting maybe the D5.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Wow, well I was already seriously considering the Z6 for video, and that just adds to the argument for the Z6s! Thanks for your reply Hudson.
For parts of the world where $ is very important, the Z5 makes a good starter wedding and event camera. For those that can afford the z6, I agree that it's better to go z6. I love my z50 as a walk around camera
I don't see the Z6 being that affordable, but maybe I'm not looking at it right. I think if the budget is tight, the DSLR world might be a good place to hang out for a year or two. That 4.5 fps would bother me in events and if there was any way to budget for the z6's insane 20+ thousand ISO performance event shooters certainly would be well served doing so.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Agreed. I suppose Nikon felt they needed an option to sell against the canon eos rp. Dual sd and Ibis for those on the fence about getting into mirrorless ff and not wanting to go xqd. I agree there is no benefit for those already in the mirrorless Nikon space. The D750 is a great dslr in this space and the z5 may be a good alternative. There are also those casual shooters that want full frame, like the ease of mirrorless and don't want to spend over 2k for a basic setup. This camera may make sense with the z6s/z7s and z8/9 releases which may push up the prices of ff z cameras with a lot of higher end features. Nikon is playing it safe to make sure they have affordable bodies and glass. Canon mirrorless ff lenses are expensive as are panasonic.
Hi Hudson, can you make a comparison between Canon RP and Nikon Z5, please
No I have only spent a little time with the RP. I'd put it way under the Z6 for viewfinder, ergonomics, UI and build quality. I'd really urge the Z6 over the Z5. I'm not planning to test one. The key things that make the Z6 rock are missing and it's not enough savings to warrant stepping down.
Fair assessment-noticed you have eye cup on Z body, can you please elaborate on this?
That's in my gear links with mirrorless bodies at www.hudsonhenry.com/atslinks ;)
Hudson Henry Photography Thank you kindly
Hi, Hudson. I can't remember if you've commented on how you'd compare your new Leofoto legs versus your long-time favourite Gizto GT5543XLS? IIUC, the Leofoto legs are lighter and can go just as tall but for a lot less $$.
I honestly think they are better built Peter. The mechanisms (say to lock and loosen the systematic top in place) are better thought out and the spider is CNC machined instead of cast and dipped. Leofoto is a brand on the rise. Mark my words. They are gunning for the best of the best at a lower cost and starting to innovate, not just copy. It's drool worthy. I'm VERY pleased.
So impressed with your gut feeling on the Z5. Even though I initially disagreed with it, and I'm glad I subscribed either way. Can't wait for the Z6II. I'm first on the list with one seller!
I went for the Z5 over the Z50 as I have a lot of the same batteries from my 7100 and the Z50 is a new battery system and hard if not impossible to get new ones. I was going to go for the Z6 but then I don't do video and well the XQD cards are just tooo expensive.
The Z5 just feels great and even with the 24-50 lens it gives me so much more than my 7100 and even using the ftz with a few of the DX lenses I have are great
Glad you're liking it. I would still highly recommend the Z50 if price limited for most folks. Especially if you are using DX lenses already. It's a huge resolution loss shooting in DX mode on full frame. With the Z5 you drop to 10MP with a DX lens. Everything about the full frame world is much more expensive. Glass, cards, you name it. You just get much more bang for the buck with APS-C and DX optics if price is the limiting factor. Add in the fact that the 50 has a much larger buffer, frame rate, and more balanced video options and I can't with good conscience recommend the 5 to those on a budget. The 50 is a great deal.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto like I said getting more batteries for the Z50 are like finding hen's teeth here in the UK. And as I was going to go full frame, was going to go for a 750, I decided on the Z5 as it is just better for me. Also now that lenses are being made by third parties they will be cheaper and there is a great second hand market for full frame S and F lenses
Enjoy it. There's nothing wrong with it. I just very highly recommend stepping up to the z6 for those that can afford full frame gear.
Hudson once again always a pleasure to listen and watch, as you state (and I have) the Z6 and Z50 do make a great combination. Still have my D500 with the 300 PF which makes a great camera for nature photography....
Right on! It sure does Carl. I have that combo still for the same reason. I dream of the Z equivalent of the D500 though. :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Yes a mirrorless D500 would be awesome. Or even a mirrorless version of my D7500 would be nice!
Good video. I agree that for your customer base the Z5 is not a good deal. That is not the same as saying that it is a bad camera. I think that there is a market for the camera, particularly after the Z6 is largely replaced by the Z6s.
As always thanks for the great video. I’m looking forward to seeing the pictures from the new 70-200
I totally agree. Not a bad camera, but tough to recommend to my audience sitting between the Z50 and Z6. I personally prefer the Z50 when recommending a starter camera for a number of reasons and the 6 has some really strong advantages.
Just got the Z5 with the FTZ adapter. Where I live it costs me 1550 USD. The Z6 with adapter would have cost me 1750 USD. Except that it's not in store anymore, so I would have had to get it outside our tax free zone, which would have cost me 1900 USD. That's without memory cards. They cost 150 USD per card, cheapest price. Wanting to have at least two, I would have had to add an additional 300 USD. Plus card reader (90 USD). Even if I would have been able to get the cheapest price, the Z6 would have cost me almost 600 USD more than the Z5. I'm not a video shooter, nor do I need more than the 4.5 fps shutter speed. That said, hadn't it been for the crazy price for the memory cards for the Z6, I probably would have spent that extra money. But to get two 32GB memory cards for 300 USD, which wouldn't cover all my shooting situations - so would have to add additional cards, just raises the price too much for me. I was considering the Z50, but leaving Fujifilm I wanted a camera where I could see the difference. The Z system seems really promising, and the images I've shot so far are on a whole different level.
AS long as you're enjoying it. :-) That's what counts. As I frequently say... All the cameras now are really amazing. I do think the 6 is worth the extra for 90% of the people considering full frame. The reality is that if you really delve into the full frame world and get excited and grow, then the glass you lust after and buy will make the cost of the cameras, cards and readers very small by comparison. Good full frame glass just doesn't come cheap. I'm a HUGE fan of the Z6 sensor in low light and I've got zero use for SD cards after years with XQD and CF-Express speed and robust build quality. There will be more bodies and new sensors coming. There always are. I predict CF-Express will become a new standard in all higher end cameras moving forward. Some brands will stick to CF Type A's SD size form, but that limits the speed to 50% of Type B's dual bus architecture. More and more brands will adopt Type B to ease the internal memory requirements for larger buffers and faster frame rates by having much faster throughput speed. I've had so many SD failures over the years. Never a XQD or CF Express.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto if I'd be a professional, I would have spend the extra money for the Z6 or Z6 II, no doubt about it. And I do agree with everything you write.
What I failed to add, is that the Z5 is an amazing camera for someone, who switches to Nikon, who has a lot of memory cards, and who isn't professional.
I switched from Fujifilm, and as much as I love the X-T3 and thoughts behind it, from what I've experienced with the Z5 so far, it just is on a whole different level. Yes, for high paced photography where I need the high fps, or for the person doing videography, who has a gimbal and all the other necessary stuff, the X-T3 is probably a better choice. But if I want IBIS and a sturdy camera (I mean, the X-T3 is not exactly a plastic camera, so not saying it isn't robus), which gives you a lot of good options for customizability as well as being able to fully operate it with just one hand, you could go with the X-H1, but then again, you could also go with the Z5 and get great image quality and amazing lenses.
I hated the way the Xtrans sensor renders the images. Most people don't see it, but some do, and I'm one of them. There's something about how it renders the transition between details, which makes it look muddy or plasticky. And it only gets less pronounced with really sharp lenses, and since they anyway cost the same as the Z lenses, why not spend that money and go full frame? The autofocus isn't that great with fujifilm, unless you get the more expensive lenses. Again, leaving me with l reason to stay with Fujifilm really. I used manual lenses a lot, but while the focus peaking is good, it's not perfect on the Fuji cameras. And my two favorite manual lenses are the two Voigtlander SLIIS, 40mm and 58mm, which are made for Nikon, so they work perfectly on the Z5 (of course would have done so on all of the Z cameras).
The thing with Fujifilm though is that the brand caters a lot to photographers like me, who are not action shooters, but more into slower photography like documentary, street, etc. But with the prices of their higher end cameras, we are anyway spending the same amount as if we went full frame. So I was wondering why I wouldn't just do that. Honestly, I was contemplating switching to MFT, for the features of the Panasonic and Olympus cameras, and if Nikon had chosen the same strategy as Canon price wise, or made cameras the same way as Sony - and if MFT gear hadn't been insanely difficult to get where I live, I probably would have gone with MFT. But I'm so happy that Nikon made a camera like the Z5, which allowed me to get a full frame camera which seems to be perfect for me, so I can experience the difference between what you can do with an APS-C camera and what you can do with a full frame camera. I still don't think that you can't create amazing photos with smaller sensors, but actually trying to use a full frame camera myself, I get the difference. I strongly considered the Z50, and I probably would have gone with it in the end, if the Z5 hadn't been there, or I would have thought to myself that there would have been no idea in switching from one APS-C system to another, and maybe have just bought used MFT gear. The Z5 saved me 😁
I feel that the Z5 is perfect to pull in people like me to the system. I have no idea how many of us exist, but I have a feeling that if those Fuji shooters, who care about the aesthetics of our images would be exposed to what the Z5 has to offer, and we compare prices, then I think there would be many, who would be tempted to make the switch.
As a side note, regarding the two voigtlander lenses. It's insane to see the difference between the results on the X-T3 and the Z5. You really see which sensor they were made for and how sharp they really are, not to talk about how beautifully they render on a Nikon sensor. I know that they cater for a bit different kind of photography than what you're doing, but if you ever get the chance, you should check them out.
@@peterkaltoft8032 Great analysis. I'm very glad you're loving the switch. :-)
if the Z50 had image stabilisation i would have gotten it this very minute!
The 16-50 & 50-250 gave such good built in vr as do the 70-200 and 500pf/FTZ that I dont notice it. Yes, I'd love a more pro built dx Z, but it will be bigger and cost much more. :)
Hudson, your insights are what I was looking for. The BSI sensor providing lower-light capability, and IBS appear to be the primary advantages of the Z6 over the Z5 for stills. I'm not so sure that a 6S would add much more additional value for me. Unfortunately, if I buy a Z6 I'll need to sacrifice my D500 and DX lenses for financial reasons and I like the D500 a lot. No real wrong option, just different ones. Thanks for listening.
Yeah... It's tough to dump the 500 Al. Maybe a Z50 just to play with the mirrorless or wait a bit. I sure hope a top gun APS-C z camera is coming. It was a long long wait for that D500 you and I both love.
The Z5 does have IBIS. I agree, I would NOT say the Z systems can match the D500 yet. Especially with the value of AF-P lenses. I sure miss the snappy feel and sound of the D500's shutter! However, most of the time I get better exposures and take better photos with the Z5 or even the Z50 (at higher ISO's though.) I experiment more with metering modes and settings with the EVF. I no longer image review and can change EVERY setting without taking the camera away from my eye. The few times I got better photos with the D500 I didn't feel the difference was unacceptable. Had I not seen the photos side-by-side I wouldn't have even really known.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Seriously, my D500 replaced (upgraded) a D750.
Im thinking of going from d750 to Z5 with adapter, after trade in of a few things its about 300$, while the z6 would be closer to 1000 after i have to buy an xqd and the adapter. Thats too much of a price gap for me
Not sure if you'd get the low light performance you're used to with that sensor. Read some comparisons. Maybe close...? The 750 is a lowlight beast. The Z6 even more so. They cut costs on the Z5 by not having the backlit sensor... Hard to say.
Z6 is good but z5 is very good considering cost.
As usual a great video!!
My question is if anyone should buy any Nikon with the rumors intensifying about their financial condition in the photographic division. (A rumor sounded for some time now)
There are rumors the NPS is non-active and predictions that they may be heading down the same path as Olympus.
In regards to your video I think I will stick with my Z50 instead of considering a Z5.
Best wishes
Duane
Well Duane, I predict we'll look back and laugh at that some years from now. I responded to you in another thread about this with a comment about all the Hasselblad obituaries that have been written over the past decade. Nikon is a much more valuable brand. It's not about to disappear and it's engineering and building cameras more durable, fun and usable than anyone else. Sony fans love to gloat about the numbers, but they are shrinking for everyone. Despite that, I predict Nikon is not following Kodak and Minolta any time soon. The Z product line is new but evolving faster than other brands and the lenses are just drop dead unbelievable. They have the right mount and reverse compatibility. You can adapt everyone els's glass to it, but it's flange width and distance gives advantages that are clear with each S lens released. They're epic. You can't put those lenses on any other brand bodies because they are wider and shorter flanged. It only works the other way round.
Thanks for all your videos Hudson. Awesome.
What about a review for the new nikon 24 - 200 for the Z cameras
Other RUclipsrs are impressed. Mine is on the FedEx truck.
Ha, I'm getting some time with a friend's next week. :-)
Hudson, I really enjoy your videos. Informative. Honest. Positive. I still love, with a capital L, my D850 and its 2.8 F glass. Its an amazing camera. That said, I took the leap into the Z system with the Z6. The prime lenses have blown me away. The 14-30mm has already become a favourite. Even the 24-200mm is a great walking around lens. Like you, I believe that the Z5 is simply too close in price to the Z6, not to opt for the better machine. As a backup, I too would go for the Z50. I am sufficiently smitten by the lighter and capable Z6, that I have started saving for the upgraded Z7 that is supposed to be coming. Go ahead Nikon....take my money.
With the new no fee cancellations introduced last week by the major airlines within the US, you might want to reintroduce some workshops middle of next year!
There will be workshops next year. Have no fear. :-)
Any thought on D780?
It's a great dslr for low light work. Great.
I still haven’t made the Z jump yet. When I get around to buying a second body it will be either the Z6 or Z7 or given my level of procrastination the updated model
$400 over the Z5 plus $200 for an xqd card makes the Z6 $600 more - if you don't need more than 4.5 shots per second burst and in tests the BSI sensor in the Z6 is not significantly better in low light than the Z5 the $600 saving would be better spent on a decent prime lens.
CF-Express is so worth investing in. You'll never want to mess with an SD again. If the budget is really tight, go APS-C every time. You get more bang for the buck in every single department. THe Z50 is a better choice for the budget conscious. If you want full frame everything gets more expensive and you'll be buying CF-express soon anyway. You'll curse the money spent on those slow, fragile SDs down the road. As for low light, I let the Z6(ii) sensors run up to 20,000 ISO as my auto limit and it's very very correctable. Not sure who's judging the ISO equivalence, but I don't think it's much of a horserace. :-)
Nice thoughts/perspective. Most of my work is concert photography and my primary shooter has been the D750. I expect (unless it doesn't live up to the rumored specs) to get a Z6s when it becomes available, but my D750 has developed some issues that likely mean I'll have to get a replacement before the Z6s is available. Struggling with the decision of how much to spend "now" to only spend a pile more when the Z6s comes along. You've provided some good reasons to pull the Z5 off my consideration list.
The 6 is amazing, particularly in low light. The s will be an incremental adjustment, but no sensor change I hear. Watch my latest vid on kitesurf shooting for how good the auto area AF has gotten in the Zs in firmware 3.1. The eye/face detect will be epic for you.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto for me, the primary benefit of the Z6s over the Z6 (if rumors are true) is the second card slot. So long as it's at least as good as the 6 in other regards, that's the one I want. :) having said that, what are your thought on the low-light performance of the Z7?
With XQD's robust build quality I've never put an SD in my D500 or 850s second slot. I've never heard a credible story of one failing. I've been using the same two 128 GB XQD's for about 4 years as my primary with never a hiccup. I know some people really care, but I'd only feel the need if I was stuck with flimsy SD cards again. :) if they give it to us, I'll set it to overflow. The 7's noise performance is as bad as the D850. The 6's is better than the d750 you rightfully love for that work. It's on par or really close to the D5.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto yeah, im bummed the rumors are 1 XQD + 1 SD, but for me its better than single card.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto ill have to look more into the D5, but if thats the one I think it is, I suspect its outta my league financially.
Thank you so much for the review. I was waiting for the Z5 to be available where I live , but you praise so much the Z50 that I might end up getting it for now and get a D700 for portraits with shallow depth of field...
Or take the jump and get a Z6+24-70 combo (With ftz and xqd)
Z6, Z6, Z6. :-)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto the D700's were sold, Z6 it will be, then :)
PS: thanks for your reviews.
Great Analysis, I have one question, I was reading several reviews that the Z50 has a BSI sensor I talked to Nikon and they refused to agree or disagree and they said it is proprietary information and that I should seek independent review such as DPReview. please advise
That's really odd. Who at nikon told you that? I never looked into it. I didn't expect a $900 body to be BSI. DP Review says it is, but I take that with a grain of salt. I don't know either. Weird. All I can say is that it does a surprisingly good job in low light, much like the D500. I wonder if they aren't versions of the same sensor.
Even DP Review has backed off their original BSI claim. In a thread about the Z50, one person claims that Nikon verified that it’s just a regular CMOS sensor, not BSI. There are lots of posts on YT saying the low light performance is just so-so. But, nobody should be buying this for that purpose - it’s currently the only Z-mount DX game in town, and I enjoy mine for grandkid snapshots and videos, but for anything demanding, I still grab my Z6 and/or Z7.
@@carlmarch603 I imagine they just unwittingly typed BSI without checking. I'd be really surprised to see BSI at this price point. I will say that mine does a better job in low light than I expected though, much like the D500. I was pleasantly surprised while not being blown away. :-)
Agreed. Nikon lists all the Z-series sensors as CMOS under tech specs. However, in the overview sections for each camera on the Nikon USA website, they highlight the BSI sensor for the Z6 and Z7. Might be some trademark or contractual issue with the sensor supplier (Sony) to not list it in the tech specs.
Hudson, luv you man but I think you are off base on the Z 5. Believe it or not there are some serious photographers that do not gave a rat's ass about shooting video with a DSLR or mirrorless system. I am proudly one of those photographers. I have not purchased a mirrorless system yet, but I did get a chance to demo a Z 50 and it felt like a toy in my hands. My main crop sensor Nikon's are a D300s and a D7100 both with grips. The Z 5 will come down in price very soon and it will provide thousands of photographer's with an excellent entry level full frame mirrorless camera as the D610 did in the DSLR vane. Just the mere fact that Nikon is going to release a S version of the Z 6/7 shows they made a huge mistake by not including dual card slots and a fully functional battery gtip.
You should spend some more time with the z50. It's a more powerful little toy in many ways than you might imagine. I'd recommend it as a starter or budget camera over the Z5 any time. Optics are cheaper and smaller too. I love having that in my pocket or ski bag.
Give me a single XQD over dual SDs any day of the week. I've yet to hear of an XQD failure. I never put a SD in my 850 or 500's 2nd slot. Slow and fragile is how I think of them. I've been shooting on nothing but two 128GB XQD's for the past 100,000 frames (I love time lapse too) and hundreds of hours of videos with not a single hiccup. None of my friends have had any either. Before XQD, I had two CF and at least half a dozen SD failures.
I've never used a grip on any camera ever. One came free with my D700. I passed it on with the camera still still sealed in it's original package. I use a tether tools dummy battery and a power brick if I need more battery. That lasts for weeks and isn't awkward and bulky. Smaller is my favorite.
I'll stick by my guns on this one. I wasn't a big fan of the D610 either. I had it for the shortest time I've ever owned a Nikon body. Like the Z6 to the Z5, I just thought the 750 was a much better camera for the money difference. The 750 was epic in low light almost like the Z6 or D5 (which is just too big for me to lug into rough country). Like the Z5 the 610 had really bad video limitations too, not a big deal for someone who shoots no video, but video is a major consideration for many today. Different tastes make the world interesting. I totally respect those who disagree, but I stand my my assessment that for my audience as a whole, the Z5 is more than $400 less valuable than the z6.
The low light prowess of the Z6s sensor is so good. Filming is another topic, but if it doesn't matter to you, I still couldn't recommend foregoing the 6's build, frame rate, and low light for $400. That's my strong opinion.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Hudson, thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my comment especially with all that is going on in Oregon with the wildfires. I have a cousin in Eugene ,she has some health issues and I am very concerned and have urged her to get out of town until the aqi returns to normal.
Maybe a little more background on my photography career and journey will help you understand where I am coming from. My journey with Nikon began in the '70's with Nikon FTN. I did have the honor to shoot a grand total of 1 wedding with the FTN and then 15 with a 500 C/M. I great pleasure for 25 plus years to shoot local high school, college and youth sports and was a full time "sub" for two local weekly papers and every once in a while one of the parent daily papers. Nikon F2A, Nikon F3HP and then what I consider the single greatest SLR ever made the Nikon F4s. Both the F3HP and F4s had drives. I love big bodies and can not go back now. I have come full circle and now I am shooting my grandchildrens youth sports just for fun not professionally. I also never had a card failure, but I lost one out of my D300. Full disclosure I still reach for my D700 more than all my other bodies when I am not shooting action. I never owned a D600/610 I was just using the model as an example. My current line up is D300, D300s, D7100, D700 and D750 and more legacy AI, AIS and "D" glass then you can shake a stick at and a good deal of modern glass.
One of the things that brings a great smile to my face is when my two sons show the other parents who are taking pictures with smartphones and PNS my images and they almost always ask how did he get such great action photos....
The Z5 makes sense at £/$ 950 - I'm only going to get interested when Nikon produce a camera that backs-up stills and video.
They've got plenty of DSLRs that do that, but I haven't used the 2nd slot in any of them since the XQD came out. I don't know of anyone's XQD cards failing. They're virtually bulletproof. I know it's a hangup for folks. I could care less about the 2nd slot personally unless it's a single flimsy SD slot. I'll take one XQD over 2 SDs any day of the week. :)
The z5 and z6 are basically the same camera. If you don't need video or technically 3 fps difference, the the z5 is definitely the better choice.
Then there's the weather sealing, durability and backlit sensor's low light insanity that the Z5 doesn't have... Well worth the price difference to jump to the 6 every day of the week in my book. If price is really the pinch point the APS-C world is much more enticing. The Z50 with 16-50 and 50-250 is an unbelievable deal that I love to use on a regular basis.
With the recent price drop on the z5 do still recommend the z50 over it.
Absolutely. If price is important you'll get easy more bang for the buck with APS-C with every lens you buy. It has faster frame rate, bigger buffer, just as good a viewfinder and AF as the z5, 6 or 7 and way better video chops. The kit 16-50 is a gem of a surprise.
If you want to spend the money to step up to full frame, then the z6 is worth every extra cent and more in my book. That sensor is gold in really low light. It's built like a tank and weather sealed. Plus it's a stellar video camera.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto besides the 16-55mm and the 55-250mm, which other APS-C lenses from the Z system are there, which are not full frame? If you anyway buy into the Z system and purchase the lenses which otherwise are are for full frame, how much more budget option is there really to the Z50 then?
Like the dslr line, the high end focus is on FX lenses, but there is an 18-140 on the short term roadmap. Right now you've got the FX equivalent of 24-375mm in the 2 affordable zoom lenses on offer and they're way better than you'd expect. There's a ton of nice older Nikkor DX glass out there like the 12-24 that will work great on the FTZ. Tons of good budget options already really.
Here it is sir Z70-200/2.8 s is Ridiculous. The responsiveness; the weight compared to my VR 2; the Inate sharpness! It balances very well on my Z6. The bokeh is like 3D man the colors are sensational. Also theAF is quicker as well I don’t know the % but it is noticeably quicker than with FTZ Adapter on my VR2 A monster Winner from Nikon
Yeah. Loving mine too. The FL ED also blows the doors off the VRII, but this is somehow even nicer yet, and ludicrously beautiful to behold too.
i’m waiting on a z-mount macro.
there are so many ectreme good macros out there... for me, i dont need a Z Macro.
Congrats on the 70-200! I ordered mine from B&H January 6th - still waiting...
Me too. January 7th. I have a Z 5 coming today, as a second camera to my Z 6.
I ordered on January 6th too at about 1am when I was up in the night and saw the link for NPS members. NPS has a different que. They set some aside for us. It's not head of the line, it's just a different and slightly faster line. :-) Hard to call 8 months fast though, LMAO.
Ha! I just got notification from B&H that my order is being processed - credit card was charged! Can’t wait to take that lens for a spin!
I think as an entry camera into full frame then its probably ideal and will keep lots of wedding photographers happy because of the dual slots. From what I’ve seen thus far the absence of a back lit sensor doesn’t seem to be that much of a problem but it all comes down to what you need. I do agree with you but give it a few months and the price will fall as it did with the z6 and 7 and then it will make much more sense.
Maybe so. I think it would need to in order to be considered entry level.
I personally will take a single XQD over the dual SD any day of the week, but I know a lot of folks hang up on that. I never put an SD in the 2nd slot of my D850 or D500. XQD is so robust.I've never heard of a failure let alone had one.
The sensor in the 6 is special. I'd really urge folks to save extra for it.
Hudson Henry Photography I agree with you 100% on the XQD, SD cards are just not strong enough.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto XQD & CFE doesn't work in every market around the world, it's a big negative factor for a brand like Nikon in many countries primarily because of ridiculous pricing & highly inconsistent availability. Those cards are not for consumer oriented cameras priced below 2500$ at least until the price of those cards reduces to half or even lower. I am choosing Z5 over Z6 mainly because of SD eco system.
I agree with you about the Z5. I have a Z6 and two Z50. They serve different purposes. The Z50 is a pocket camera and secondary cameras for multi-camera video shoots.
Can't wait to see what the Z8/9 might be!
LeRoy Michaelson I cant wait either, it’s so exciting to see how the new technology and mount is improving our experience and that’s not to say there isn’t a place for DSLR because I think there is. Really interesting times ahead 😃
I don't considering a Z5 Good deal , it's just to expensive for what you get , the only features that i like is Two Sd Slot .
Ha. I'll take a single XQD any day over dual sd. It's a far better format. I'd like to see CF Express/XQD and SD for those who want a second, but I'm fine with a single XQD. They're fast and bombproof.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I’m thinking about mirrorless, Z5 or Z6, I don’t shoot any video(I have a d750), but not sure if I’d be happy with the Z5 lacking in low light capabilities. I’m used to the cheaper SD cards, the CFExpress are expensive. I travel a lot and probably would need 2 - 128gb cards, I guess it’s a cost up front.
NOI. Z6 for the same price or a few dollars more.
so 400$ is just a few dollars???
@@frederikvanreusel plus $150 for memory card plus you need a card reader
I just got the Z5 selling both the D7200 and D750 and I think I fits most people needs
BSI and XQD and higher FPs are good but I don't think it justify the extra cost since XQD is insanely expensive and it's mostly for video advantages (4k and 8k)
I think Z5 is the best travel camera for most and can be a backup camera and the S lens blows all G lens it's a no brainer to upgrade. Rather then keeping g lens and spending it all on the body
Unless comparing it to the A7iii it may lose in some features but I do think it should be given more love then a pass
This should be Nikon's cash cow but everyone is killing it. By recommending the Z6 you are killing Nikon's sales since most will just get one used
Different opinions make the world more interesting. :-) Nothing wrong with that. I'll keep steering folks with the money to invest in full frame right over the Z5. If you can afford full frame glass, then the BSI, and CF-Express are more than worthwhile too, along with the framerate, dual processing, weather sealing, magnesium core, larger buffer, the list goes on. If the budget is tight, you'll always get way more bang for the buck in APS-C and in many ways I think the Z50 is a more attractive option. I really wish they'd make a D500 like Z camera though. That would put a big smile on my fast for sports and action.
I remember the SD days. I lost about a card a year to them simply falling apart. I"m still using the same 128XQD I bought 4 years ago over and over and over and over. They are bombproof. The new CF-Express cards are even more bombproof and it's fun to watch 256GB fly into LR's import in seconds. :-) I would not go back to SD if they paid me to. :)
@@HudsonHenryPhoto nice yeah I do understand for most professionals the Z6ii or z6 is the minimum standard. But I do see why the Z5 exist it's just what most folks need. I'm kind of apprehensive of getting the z50 since the lens section is so limited and you'd end up using full frame lens anyways
The best crop camera I feel is still Fuji the lens available for street and travel are all there
D500 is more wild life camera haha so it focus APC on the zoom aspects. there are rumours a D580 is coming next year 😂 Nikon will need to match the A9 standard if they make a wildlife camera imo.
XQD and CF express are still overprice for my needs
Nikon shooter for 55yrs ..... REALLY REALLY wanted the Nikon to do well BUT THE VIDEO ON YOUR YT IS SUBPAR.......Rather have FF n IBIS than a crop frame without IBIS (Z50) A5 is better than that ... Do not care bout video.... I will stay with My D850 n D750 OR a Z5 W/ IBIS n FF n HUMAN EYE AF, with new update........... OTHERWISE i RELLY ENJOY UR YT channel........
My point is that if you're looking at the much more expensive commitment to full frame, then the Z6ii is well worth the extra money. Well worth it. Better build, weather sealing, much deeper buffer, faster frame rate, insane video, backlit chip with usable 20,000 ISO output. I can't begin to recommend the Z5 to someone with the money for good full frame optics. If you're in the market for a bargain or have a limited budget, then the Z50 is a way better option. The new DX glass is cheap, great and has VR built in, the frame rate is better, the imaging is really great. There's nothing wrong with APS-C, particularly for longer lens shooting. Oh and the Z50 keeps right up in every autofocus aspect including face and eye detect. More and more of us do care about video as well and they really crippled the Z5 to save on cost there, while the Z50 does fabulous 4k full sensor video. I'm not saying anything about the Z50 being a better still camera than the Z5, I'm just saying it's the better option for those on a budget and I stand strong on that assertion.
For that much money I should be able to get the same amount of battery life as DSLR’s instead of buying MORE batteries.
I notice zero difference with the Z cameras than my D850, D500, D810, D800 or other cameras. I don't use the LCD that much. Using Prioritize viewfinder, I rarely ever need a second battery, unless I'm doing long exposure night work or shooting tons of frames of sports or wildlife. Just like the DSLRs. Better yet, they use the same batteries as my DSLRs (well not the Z50, but all the other Z cameras). I don't know what goes on with the CIPA testing, but every Z camera I've used and I own all but the Z5, have blown my mind with actual battery life.
Looks like you have too many cameras anyway so the Z5 would be a waste of money
In a way you're right, but if the specs of the Z5 interested me, I'd at least rent and review it for my community. The problem is that if you are really entry level, then the Z50 is a better choice for a number of reasons I state in the video. If you want to go full frame and grow as a photographer then the Z5 will limit your growth in ways that will make you want the Z6 more than $400. I can't recommend it for my audience. It's not a bad camera. It's just hemmed in by better choices.
You do remind me I need to sell my 850 though. I use the 500 for action with long lenses, the Z6 mainly to film or work in low lit situations, the Z50 for a pocket or adventure camera when I don't want much weight or bulk and the Z7 is my main camera when quality matters. The 850 just sits and looks sad on my shelf...