OK I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS HUGEEE and I also rolled Boss Boss Boss with 5bil mesos: x.com/x3TheAran59/status/1748250723937063268 • Patch Notes (KR): maplestory.nexon.com/testworld/news/all/23 • Patch Notes (EN - Max Blog): orangemushroom.net/2024/01/19/kmst-ver-1-2-168-meso-changes-and-new-potential-reset-system/
Removing cubes from CS and forcing you to use meso allows them to bypass so many internet gacha laws. If you thought manipulation was bad now? HA, they will no longer be legally obligated to disclose rates because money is not directly involved
What even worse is the fact this opens the door for nexon to selling their own in game currency. I can see it happening. They're either going to sell mesos in meso market or they ate going to sell meso boosters for real money.
So below 15* its 30% cheaper only?? So its still the same price after 15 but were getting 40m cubes an a 150m meso cap with nerfed boss crystals. Yeah naw im good i will def find another game to play.
Yeah how are reboot players in kms going to get mesos? They don't have a meso market. This is literally to get reboot players to go back to kms reg servers.
@@robkc6069 Sure but NA+EU (reboot and reg) combined only account for a small fraction (4-7%) of their maplestory revenue. So frankly nexon dgaf about if ppl quit reboot here if it means appeasing their primary audience/paying playerbase in KMS+CMS.
So this is the compensation of being involved in a very huge scandal. Good job nexon. I never knew that giving nerfs to the economy of the game is considered as a hugeeeeee compensation.
This actually will revamp the in game economy. Trading items will now be the best way to make meso. Higher pot items now aren't paywalled so more people will obtain and sell them. Regular servers just got the revamp they needed and reboot is fucked.
@@JemKadetchyincorrect. So they’re nerfing the most popular version of maplestory so far which is by far reboot. It does nothing but hurt the reboot players. Which is about 90% of the player base atm.
@@nirorit don’t understand? This isn’t rocket science. It’s long been in the talks since whales started moving to reboot and that was what 3 years ago in KMS? It only started getting worse in the last year. However. His point hinges on the fact that it’ll help normal servers but it just guts the game entirely and focuses on trading. Which is normal server only. However that also hinges on the huge leap of faith they won’t manipulate the meso market as well… so overall it just guts both reg and reboot server while making the game extremely unfriendly for any sort of new or even mid player. So please don’t be presumptuous.
I truly think reboot is gonna die soon, not sure if the players are gonna jump over to regular but if these changes come to GMS, reboot is very unappealing
@@haowen8872 If these changes come through in their current states, then yeah, reboot in GMS will almost definitely die. People will not be moving unless they started literally within a month and don't have much there, but those with 8K+ Legions and hundreds to thousands of hours are definitely not going to switch unless they love the game that much. But honestly, as someone who fits all of that, I would rather quit and move to another game or a private server.
There's literally no purpose to it on reboot which has zero economy. The only purpose I can think of, is Nexon will add some kind of meso increase NX boost players will be able to buy in future
@@minilabyrinth Since they found out meso bags weren't a good idea, the only other option would be to open meso market for non-reboot (which would defeat the purpose of the no-trade-system) or to place meso on a global trading system, redeemable to global servers across regions (G-K-T-C-J-Eu-MSEA)
@@iHappyKorea they been killing reboot idendity in the past 2 years, at this point just make us a reg server, if this change comes to our region we're done
@@iHappyKorea That's the entire reason, why bother with reg or reboot server at this point. Mind as well just make one server. Maybe that's why GMS rename reboot servers *Wears tinfoil hat*
They put a cap on the amount of mesos you can farm, but they raised the about of mesos you can sell in the meso market. 🤔 I think this was a reaction to the recent mistake they made with that event where a bunch of people got 1mil maple points, and the meso maker collapsed. I guess they never rolled back.
GMS has way different rates than KMS (and majourity of players are Heroic worlds on GMS), so i don't know if this is something they will do for GMS. Acquisition mesos rate nerf makes no sense for reboot, there is no trading so more mesos is needed since everything needs to be done by that individual player to progress. Mesos cap especially screws over frenzy totem users in interactive worlds, mesos cap overall makes sense for those worlds because of trading and having an economy system. Overall, terrible changes for GMS and TMS.
You know what really makes me want to play the game more? having my rates nerfed down SIX TIMES lower than what they were! Six waps to make up what I used to get in just two hours. It's ok at least I'm rewarded for all my boss mules I've invested the time to learn and mesos to make stronger. Oh wait those are nerfed for my income too! At least nexon wants to look out for the player and not rig cube rates. Oh wait since cubes are buried behind meso being purchased for maple points they aren't legally obligated to disclose rates to the players and the FTC can't come after them for it again. I sure am excited to see these changes come to GMS!
Reg server can sell all the boss loots for extra meso, including huge meso gains if they hit pitched set and so on. In reboot, we can't. So, you tripping bro?
you must be tripping lmfao. just buff reg server. considering reboot cannot trade, the increase in meso rates is the only way to afford anything with a respectable amount of time put into the grind. @@chaningufai1855
@@Levolpehh because bots aren't the problem, they pretend to fight the bots as an excuse to make changes they think will make them more money, bots selling mesos on meso market is good for them cause whales need NX to buy it so they don't care where meso really comes from, their main concern is low spender or f2p having access to mesos in an easy way making them not spend, so lets introduce a cap, now with these changes they will have some kind of control on how much currency bots can inject in the game have full control on economy and TimeGate as far as they want and change the rates as they see fit for maximizing their profits, this is in no way a good change for no one but they try to make it seem as a great move that will benefit the players
It's clearly just an excuse to further limit meso income, so they can control/manipulate the economy by introducing ways to PAY $$ for meso, increase meso cap, or drop rates, in order to compensate for their losses from removing cubes. Or did you think Nexon was going to just take an L by removing the cubes?
@@CognitoTanKhaiiHuitkh9917 There is no way they are going to compensate us for making them suffer a loss with the lawsuit. They are going to milk all their losses back from the playerbase just in a different form (by manipulating the meso economy). They are just gonna find new loopholes in the system to take advantage of that's all.
That's not it, it's the base rate. The base rate is 100%, so if you have 200% meso obtain and lets say you are Lv285 and your cap is 200m, so it will be 200m * 300% cos your stat window meso % will multiply the cap.
@@x3TheAran59 i see thanks brother for that good answer and explanation for meso cap , demn i hate equations that why haha , but the loots are still there like sol frag etc. if i use 5개 재물 a day right?
I’m done live service games. I will no longer in my life ever be Slave to a game that rewards daily play. I think I’m going to just focus on my life. I’m 28 anyways.
These changes to Reboot simply disincentive progression, let alone playing. Starforcing above 17* will be unjustifiable for a dailystory player, its already lame with booms and tier downs, but at least you can get tons of meso through various means. The same goes for potentials as well. Even though Maplestory has been a great unique game, it's just a game. Removing all the beneficial elements for practically all levels and type of player is enough to kill it.
Game can't be saved unless they fire everyone who enabled the current system, firing Kang alone is not enough. Nexon introduced paid cosmetics with expiry date in 2002 and gacha system to the world in 2004. They're the primordial evil and representation of corporate greed in gaming world. Quitting the game is the only way they'd go into overdrive trying to salvage the game because Maple makes up majority of Nexon's revenue pie.
3 line boss is decent option for mid-game but still 2l boss and 1l att is late-game pot and is better almost nobody takes 2L+ ied unless ur legion is lacking and still this depends on class lol, ideal you want 1l ied or none Yeah almost nobody wants it at the end lol
@@DynamicRoulett terrible for mid game, it is only able to be decent in extreme early game before anything is past 15 stars the highest boss you could kill would be cra and pno
NX spending from buying cube in cash shop to buying mesos in meso market (Legit way, or else trading p2p but it was illegal in TOS). So now they can do shit about the new cubing system and player can't complain because it's "FREE' now.
Not really the FTC can examine how much mesos people are buying then apply it to cubing and SF systems. Just cause they "converted" the cash doesn't let them get away with it. Else genshin didn't need to disclose the rates due to"free" primogems
wow if these changes go live reboot is literally dead. How the f*ck are you suposed to get mesos if Ursus is removed, boss crystals are nerfed and farming mesos is capped? like wtf are these braindead, completely out of touch changes? At this point they are just making the game insuferable to play so players stop playing and they can just shut down everything. Just nuke the game now and be done with it, don't kill the game slowly like this.
So reboot it will be 20x more expensive to cube because reds go from 12m to 42m and boss crystals go down to like 1/5th the previous price, 10x more expensive to black cube, and about 3.5x more expensive to starforce. Can’t wait for the 3rd reboot server to release so we don’t have to be jealous of all the people with 3L potentials, it’s gonna be such a waste of money to go for 3L that people will have to 23* their gear first.
Hi Steve, since it has potential button, but seems like only shows cubing for main potential but how to cube for additional potential? Using additional pot cube?
i dont know if im happy this game is going to die finally, or sad to see my most played game of all time get reduced to a pile of rotting flesh due to a corrupted company. either way, many people will finally touch grass very soon, which is always a good thing.
Does anyone know where we can read up on how KMS players feel about these (and other) changes? Is Inven the best source for that? Or maybe the KMS Official Forums? I wonder... How does Nexon Korea (the higher ups) feel about KMS Reboot? Like do they care about that server? Or perhaps they regret ever making it a thing? Do they genuinely think these changes are somehow positive for KMS Reboot players? I'm so damn curious how they think and what their logic is behind so many of their decisions this past calendar year. It's hard not to think that this is all some ruse to shake the community in an attempt to shift the focus of the playerbase... Question would be "why?" ofcourse, but only they would know that. I have so many tinfoil hat theories that could possibly explain these massive game-changing updates, but I'm praying to the heavens that I'm wrong lmao. Anywho, thanks for bringing us some footage of these changes in the KMST as always. 🙌
I am a person who plays kms. Public opinion in Inven, Maple's largest community, is currently insane. Inven's administrators found excessive expressions of hate and violence, so much so that they restricted the writing of posts. Kms' original server players who are not currently using the reboot server want the reboot server to die. These changes were introduced because they believed reboot servers were servers that shouldn't exist because they don't use a lot of cash. They consider reboot server users to be disabled, trash, and an evil to society. The reason is simply that they spend less money on games. I am stating the actual public opinion without any exaggeration. kms users who use reboot servers find this situation ridiculous. The changes that will be introduced in the future are not for any positive development of the game, but rather to appease users of the original servers. This is quite unfair and the management is being tyrannical.
I wish nexon was capable of balancing two separate server types and separate experiences, but no it looks like they always just nerf reboot to match reg because reg whales cry so hard nonstop
They overnerfed reboot for sure, but that's because it was so overtuned that it literally made no sense for someone to play reg. They literally had to close down reboot registrations in korea because reboot was killing reg. That's how blatantly overtuned it was, that you'd literally have to be fucking insane to play reg. 2.5x base exp was almost a free fz totem, which they don't even have in kr 6x base meso gain enabled HYPER FAST progression Huge profits from boss crystals FD buff enabling easier boss mules that don't have to go through the trouble of scrolling+bonus cubing, further dramatically speeding up progression Increased boss drop rates buff Cubes for sale at the vendor We're talking lightning fast progression. It might have been more balanced in the CRA/Magnus days when the game was harder. But to say it wasn't overtuned now is copium. They still overnerfed it. Boss crystal gains should be 2-3x to make up for not having access to trading/auctionhouse.
I am a person who plays kms. Kms' original server players who are not currently using the reboot server want the reboot server to die. These changes were introduced because they believed reboot servers were servers that shouldn't exist because they don't use a lot of cash. They consider reboot server users to be disabled, trash, and an evil to society. The reason is simply that they spend less money on games. I am stating the actual public opinion without any exaggeration. KMS users who use reboot servers are very angry about this situation. The changes that will be introduced in the future are not for any positive development of the game, but rather to appease users of the original servers. This is quite unfair and the management is being tyrannical. The population of original server players is nearly five times that of reboot players, so the reboot server cannot currently win the public opinion battle. Even though this is a fairly unreasonable change. The game development team and Wonki noticed this and decided to kill the reboot servers even more.
From what I've seen, regular world whales are celebrating (as usual) at reboot suffering, and pretty much every one else hates it. Pls someone correct me if wrong
KMS player opinions are complicated. The opinions of users who responded positively are as follows. 1. All additional options have a Memorial feature. 2. Meso has become valuable, increasing the value of gameplay. 3. Making cubes for free has the effect of being a healthy game in the long run. The opinions of users who responded negatively are as follows. 1. This nerf is the same act of shifting responsibility for Maple's incompetent operation to users. 2. There is no explanation for probability manipulation yet, and making the cube free is nothing more than escaping the issue of paid goods fraud. 3. There is still a huge shortage of mesos needed for Star Force.
Thank you, first person ive seen to actually be able to post a (at least seemingly) unbiased overview of Korean players' opinions on the matter. @@trombone93
@@trombone93 Oh wow, thanks for the insight! I totally had a different POV, I was thinking most KMS players would outrage especially the whales, given the fact that the fundamental of the game has changed. It is gonna be harder for the whales to play the game since there is a meso cap implemented restricting them from cubing/sf-ing. Wonder how will this change affect the market price of the ready-made eqs.
Change good for KMS non-reboot. Terrible for Reboot with zero rational and logic behind gutting reboot besides they felt like it, for the lulls, and wonki giving reboot the double birdies. Reboot is just getting screwed over, player base PO'd, with no benefits to make sense of the nerfs. Usually things are they nerf reboot, but have something else given so that it ends up being a net buff still.
This only benefits the kms reg whales. Since they already spend God knows how much money on kms. This is going to hurt the f2p and casual players the most.
Probably they'll allow trading soon and just make it reg server. It doesn't make sense on having reboot servers at this point if they are basically the same.
Meso cap is only going to impact actual players not bots, bots will just make new characters... seriously pointless and stupid, same with removing Ursus they will just bot in other ways, just harming legit players. Find other ways to deal with bots it's not difficult
To me, Reboot world is truly dead if Nexon add the current scrolling and bonus potential system, without doing anything to provide more F2P means of earning messos.
So, is there a limit to how many mesos you can get a day from trade? Or how many you can get from meso market? This basically is a revive for regular servers as people will have to go back to merching. I dont think this is inherently bad actually. This is really good for the life of the game and it will also make high pot items cheaper sinse you can make them with meso now. But nexon still has to make money somehow. Sinse MS is F2P they need to make a system that inconviences us into spending money. Thats what cubes where made to do. Whats going to be the next one...
With this change it pretty much removes or shifts the blame of fraud that KMS got caught in and also makes KMS be the sole supplier of Meso. Seeing as you can purchase Maple Points with Nexon Cash through the Cash Shop. If this change comes to GMS~ In GMS I remember theres a maximum of 10 transactions through the Meso Market, so with the max meso available to purchase through Meso Market going from 1B to 5B, the daily limit technically would be 50B Meso. I dont think Meso transactions through boss crystals, trade or Auction House would affect your daily meso cap, as from what I can see its mainly just mob drops. As you said KMS has 2 sides of the argument regarding the change but mainly the issues are sprouting from Reboot players as it pretty much kills the Reboot player population.
It’s literally going to be either one of three things; or even all of them… 1 being cap increasing. They showed they wanted to do this with 6th job so they just changed where they were going to hit it. 2 raw mesos.. probably an item that will give you mesos based on the map that you’re on with how many hits it takes to kill the mobs. Relatively simple to do. 3. Nx based auction house… no gambling involved but would directly control the games economy as well as what items are available. Would allow them to manipulate the game and rates without breaking any laws as it’s no longer gambling or rate based.
From my understanding it looks like its purely mob drops where the cap is effected. So other methods of obtaining meso shouldnt impact your daily cap limitations.
I cannot fathom the thought process behind nerfing the meso gain and making everything even more expensive after having a HUGE scandal being reveiled to the public. And even touching the reboot meso gain which already has it's own difficulty curve since there is no trade and thus economy system is complete and utter BS. The only thing they care about is people pumping in more real money (look at the meso market change) and increasing the necessity of gameplay hours which in turn looks good for their numbers. They don't care about gameplay. They don't care about progression. Do they even care about the game?
Well….. Who would believe it… Nexon with another masterpiece. They absolutely know what they are doing and they make sure the normal server whales and minor whales will be happy and keep spending while reboot will die slowly and some players will HAVE to play the normal server. After all the whales and minor whales have to keep spending basically on the game to feel superior on the average players. Nexon with another master plan…. GG that’s a K.O. To the average players and f2p scene overall. We are at a point that 5% of the community takes the side of Nexon and we know exactly who they are and 95% of the community want Nexon to burn to ashes.
As a non-reboot player, I'd rather be able to roll cubes w/o paying real money for cubes with the better rates than the farmable ones. 190 mil a day is 4 black cube rolls which is $10 a day (and yes the exchange rates are way worse). Ok so you're gonna spend 10$ a day on average on this game HAHAHA sure. Also a new pity system to not fk over unlucky players. They are improving one of the shittiest systems in the game and this is a good thing.
OK I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS HUGEEE and I also rolled Boss Boss Boss with 5bil mesos: x.com/x3TheAran59/status/1748250723937063268
• Patch Notes (KR): maplestory.nexon.com/testworld/news/all/23
• Patch Notes (EN - Max Blog): orangemushroom.net/2024/01/19/kmst-ver-1-2-168-meso-changes-and-new-potential-reset-system/
Bet there's boosted rates on test servers lmao
The real villain we had to defeat was wonki all along, the Black Mage knew this would happen and wanted to destroy the maple world ahead of time 😂
Reboot is always fine until last time wonki say dun happy can go to reboot that word, that's where reboot start to doom thx to tis fatty.
Black Mage was the good guy afterall. He knew 20 years in advance. “You wouldnt comprehend why it had to be done” never hit so hard til today
@@mahiruchan6424 ah yes wonki meme DLLM Dont Like? Leave maple
Removing cubes from CS and forcing you to use meso allows them to bypass so many internet gacha laws. If you thought manipulation was bad now? HA, they will no longer be legally obligated to disclose rates because money is not directly involved
What even worse is the fact this opens the door for nexon to selling their own in game currency. I can see it happening. They're either going to sell mesos in meso market or they ate going to sell meso boosters for real money.
they releasing maplestory API.
not sure what you on, but whole game settings will be accessible for everyone fully.
Agree
@@JerichoX24they already mentioned fully disclosing years ago. Guess what? They lied
Exactly. The rates will change as whatever they want.
This patch shall be named MapleStory: The End.
New Age : Poverty
So below 15* its 30% cheaper only?? So its still the same price after 15 but were getting 40m cubes an a 150m meso cap with nerfed boss crystals. Yeah naw im good i will def find another game to play.
Good luck spending 2 years worth of mesos to get a single item to 22* lmao
Cya rebooter
@@sinbadtheprophetlol as if playing on reg server is any better? 💀
@@gioagos4997 it is if you have money. If not, reboots the way to go.
meso nerf for a server with no economy to gaslight that botting issue
Yeah how are reboot players in kms going to get mesos? They don't have a meso market. This is literally to get reboot players to go back to kms reg servers.
people are smart now to cut ties with Maple.
I’m guessing they have calculated that the amount of people who will move to reg will be more profitable for them then the people they lose on reboot
@@popcornbutter6820 they must have calculated only KMS. GMS reboot population would quit before going to reg server.
@@robkc6069 Sure but NA+EU (reboot and reg) combined only account for a small fraction (4-7%) of their maplestory revenue. So frankly nexon dgaf about if ppl quit reboot here if it means appeasing their primary audience/paying playerbase in KMS+CMS.
So this is the compensation of being involved in a very huge scandal. Good job nexon. I never knew that giving nerfs to the economy of the game is considered as a hugeeeeee compensation.
This actually will revamp the in game economy. Trading items will now be the best way to make meso. Higher pot items now aren't paywalled so more people will obtain and sell them. Regular servers just got the revamp they needed and reboot is fucked.
@@JemKadetchyincorrect. So they’re nerfing the most popular version of maplestory so far which is by far reboot. It does nothing but hurt the reboot players. Which is about 90% of the player base atm.
@@gioagos4997if you don’t understand don’t immediately refute
@@nirorit don’t understand? This isn’t rocket science. It’s long been in the talks since whales started moving to reboot and that was what 3 years ago in KMS? It only started getting worse in the last year. However. His point hinges on the fact that it’ll help normal servers but it just guts the game entirely and focuses on trading. Which is normal server only. However that also hinges on the huge leap of faith they won’t manipulate the meso market as well… so overall it just guts both reg and reboot server while making the game extremely unfriendly for any sort of new or even mid player. So please don’t be presumptuous.
@@gioagos4997what are you saying?
Well the end is near, it was fun while it lasted. R.I.P Maplestory 2003-2024 Cause of death: Nexon.
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Do they expect players to have 10 280 lvl charas to farm 190mil per day jus to cube 20 times? And sf acs 10 times?
seems like it lmfao
In that case, I'm good watching others play. I'm done if that hits GMS.
@@leecwgaming Dont think it will, many people will loose their jobs at NA Nexon if it hits GMS
Reddit going to have a field day with this lol
GMS will be insta killed if this comes holy shit
lol... lol😢
Yeah even just one change like the increased cubing price or meso cap would be enough for me to quit
yeah i uninstall and im play maple 2014
I truly think reboot is gonna die soon, not sure if the players are gonna jump over to regular but if these changes come to GMS, reboot is very unappealing
@@haowen8872 If these changes come through in their current states, then yeah, reboot in GMS will almost definitely die. People will not be moving unless they started literally within a month and don't have much there, but those with 8K+ Legions and hundreds to thousands of hours are definitely not going to switch unless they love the game that much. But honestly, as someone who fits all of that, I would rather quit and move to another game or a private server.
The meso cap is the biggest most cringe thing to ever hit. Hope it doesn't come to GMS
There's literally no purpose to it on reboot which has zero economy. The only purpose I can think of, is Nexon will add some kind of meso increase NX boost players will be able to buy in future
@@minilabyrinthmesos booster 😂cost 30k cash.
@@minilabyrinthyou right 😂
@@minilabyrinth Since they found out meso bags weren't a good idea, the only other option would be to open meso market for non-reboot (which would defeat the purpose of the no-trade-system) or to place meso on a global trading system, redeemable to global servers across regions (G-K-T-C-J-Eu-MSEA)
Thank you Nexon for forcing me to touch grass. I think I can finally give up on the game.
wait, so they literally scam the player base, lie, get sued and, to retaliate, they punish the player base?
That is insane ,if all of this is gonna happen it is literally over.
if it does happen, your prob gonna keep playing lol
@@oppaluv Nah, I'd play MapleRoyals / another private if this is a permanent change to GMS
(which it probably will be not long from now).
@@oppaluv Projecting your own lack of discipline while failing to English is wild
Maple is a LIFESTYLE game. Some people use it like tinder. It ain’t ever going away
@@Kokumajutsushimaple royals sucks.
Mind as well enable trading for reboot
Then whats the point in playing reboot? At that point the difference in reg and reboot would be that reg server has scrolling and b-pots.
the point of reboot is long dead with this change lol, might as well just enable trading if this is where the patch is heading
@@iHappyKorea they been killing reboot idendity in the past 2 years, at this point just make us a reg server, if this change comes to our region we're done
@@iHappyKorea That's the entire reason, why bother with reg or reboot server at this point. Mind as well just make one server.
Maybe that's why GMS rename reboot servers
*Wears tinfoil hat*
@@DynamicRoulett if that was the case, why stop there by enabling trading in reboot. Just merge reboot and reg servers.
They put a cap on the amount of mesos you can farm, but they raised the about of mesos you can sell in the meso market. 🤔
I think this was a reaction to the recent mistake they made with that event where a bunch of people got 1mil maple points, and the meso maker collapsed. I guess they never rolled back.
GMS has way different rates than KMS (and majourity of players are Heroic worlds on GMS), so i don't know if this is something they will do for GMS.
Acquisition mesos rate nerf makes no sense for reboot, there is no trading so more mesos is needed since everything needs to be done by that individual player to progress.
Mesos cap especially screws over frenzy totem users in interactive worlds, mesos cap overall makes sense for those worlds because of trading and having an economy system.
Overall, terrible changes for GMS and TMS.
You know what really makes me want to play the game more? having my rates nerfed down SIX TIMES lower than what they were! Six waps to make up what I used to get in just two hours. It's ok at least I'm rewarded for all my boss mules I've invested the time to learn and mesos to make stronger. Oh wait those are nerfed for my income too! At least nexon wants to look out for the player and not rig cube rates. Oh wait since cubes are buried behind meso being purchased for maple points they aren't legally obligated to disclose rates to the players and the FTC can't come after them for it again. I sure am excited to see these changes come to GMS!
*laughs in MapleSEA*
F3. Went to reboot cuz i couldnt trade of dutch restrictions... where do i earn meso now? Time to pull the plug and focus irl mesos XD
it's over. Reboot is destroyed, boss crystal price and meso rate is same as regular now.
That's good, otherwise it's unfair for normal server player coz our progress is way slower
@@chaningufai1855u can legit buy/sell ur items and make mesos from other sources like boss drops, in what world is that fair for reboot
Reboot shouldn even exist, duno why nexon even make it to make ppl despair.
Reg server can sell all the boss loots for extra meso, including huge meso gains if they hit pitched set and so on. In reboot, we can't. So, you tripping bro?
you must be tripping lmfao. just buff reg server. considering reboot cannot trade, the increase in meso rates is the only way to afford anything with a respectable amount of time put into the grind. @@chaningufai1855
Cost of resetting potential holy shit 45m
Basically, for reboot at least, doubling purple cube costs
Why is it so expensive. In reboot it was just 500k for cubing and cubes were like 70m for like 10.
Maple: can't win the Botters, punishes everyone.
RIP Ursus
dont you need unique korean id for kms? why are they having such a bad apparent botitng issue?
@@Levolpehh because bots aren't the problem, they pretend to fight the bots as an excuse to make changes they think will make them more money, bots selling mesos on meso market is good for them cause whales need NX to buy it so they don't care where meso really comes from, their main concern is low spender or f2p having access to mesos in an easy way making them not spend, so lets introduce a cap, now with these changes they will have some kind of control on how much currency bots can inject in the game have full control on economy and TimeGate as far as they want and change the rates as they see fit for maximizing their profits, this is in no way a good change for no one but they try to make it seem as a great move that will benefit the players
Faster than most korean RUclipsrs
Removing ursus to prevent botters but ended up punishing casuals..
Hopefully there is a replacement or compensation for this somewhere
@@CognitoTanKhaiiHuitkh9917 replacement is probably Nexon releasing a Meso Drop Booster in Cash Shop XD
It's clearly just an excuse to further limit meso income, so they can control/manipulate the economy by introducing ways to PAY $$ for meso, increase meso cap, or drop rates, in order to compensate for their losses from removing cubes. Or did you think Nexon was going to just take an L by removing the cubes?
@@CognitoTanKhaiiHuitkh9917 There is no way they are going to compensate us for making them suffer a loss with the lawsuit. They are going to milk all their losses back from the playerbase just in a different form (by manipulating the meso economy). They are just gonna find new loopholes in the system to take advantage of that's all.
Imagine cubing rates is rigged and no pity system in msea
different rates
msea i think 0.00001
@@MasterStacona spent 300 bc on my dkr already lol...still U
@@Lucas-wn5wm same, 300 on my gene still U
That's why this system is not likely to come to any overseas servers since we have different cubes.
What's happening to red cubes we currently own? I have like 500 in my cash inventory
a question, now what is the incentive to play in reboot?
Basically, just hard-core mode now
RIP reboot 2024. Its now just regular world but crippled without trading.
Higher drop rate still
You still avoid a huge money sink with the FD buff replacing scrolling+bonus cubing :^) so technically still slightly faster progression.
@@Sam-vi2ho Oh you didn’t hear? They’re nerfing fd passive before this patch comes to us so it’s the same as reg server.. it’s joever for reboot 😢
@@Sam-vi2ho you're surviving in copium if you didnt realize that the FD buff is confirmed to being removed in GMS lol
@@iHappyKoreaisn’t it a 20% nerf not a complete removal?
Hey steve , about meso cap you mean for 1개 재물 will get only 190-200m per day right? So does it mean we can farm only for 1재물
That's not it, it's the base rate. The base rate is 100%, so if you have 200% meso obtain and lets say you are Lv285 and your cap is 200m, so it will be 200m * 300% cos your stat window meso % will multiply the cap.
@@x3TheAran59 i see thanks brother for that good answer and explanation for meso cap , demn i hate equations that why haha , but the loots are still there like sol frag etc. if i use 5개 재물 a day right?
Sol fragment drop will not affect on that right?
@@jayjaydeguzman2027this is about meso not frags G
we need gms to tell us if this is coming or not, i dont wanna waste 6 months playing for this trash to come in.
Gms team prob knows that so hopefully they sort it out
Oh they’re not going to… they’ll try to hide it behind sales AND THEN do it without telling you….
So what are we playing instead? OSRS?
Oh gods no. Plus it's not confirmed for gms so we can't be doomers yet
I’m done live service games. I will no longer in my life ever be Slave to a game that rewards daily play. I think I’m going to just focus on my life. I’m 28 anyways.
@@herochrisxfk that, I’m doing my daily’s
@@DB-rp2gjexcept for the fact that every patch for the last 2 years has been to more closely tie GMS to KMS 💀
Is this change coming to GMS reboot Kronos/Hyperion for sure too?
Nexon：we fucked，we nerf reboot，we nerf every income source
At least they fucked
These changes to Reboot simply disincentive progression, let alone playing.
Starforcing above 17* will be unjustifiable for a dailystory player, its already lame with booms and tier downs, but at least you can get tons of meso through various means.
The same goes for potentials as well.
Even though Maplestory has been a great unique game, it's just a game. Removing all the beneficial elements for practically all levels and type of player is enough to kill it.
Game can't be saved unless they fire everyone who enabled the current system, firing Kang alone is not enough. Nexon introduced paid cosmetics with expiry date in 2002 and gacha system to the world in 2004. They're the primordial evil and representation of corporate greed in gaming world. Quitting the game is the only way they'd go into overdrive trying to salvage the game because Maple makes up majority of Nexon's revenue pie.
who want 3 line boss and ied? att% is the only stat you want.
3 line boss is decent option for mid-game but still 2l boss and 1l att is late-game pot and is better
almost nobody takes 2L+ ied unless ur legion is lacking and still this depends on class lol, ideal you want 1l ied or none
Yeah almost nobody wants it at the end lol
@@DynamicRoulett terrible for mid game, it is only able to be decent in extreme early game before anything is past 15 stars
the highest boss you could kill would be cra and pno
Well, they've been trying to kill KMS reboot for a while, I think they succeeded
so instead of banning the bots they removed a meso income, nexon does it again
whats the point of reboot now ? are we gonna get bonus pot ? trading or the ability to transfer to a reg server since reboot is garbage ?
also wondering what happened to the cubes in the calendar
Now that you don't need cubes to reroll potential on reg server and you don't get extra mesos on reboot, is there any advantage to playing reboot?
NX spending from buying cube in cash shop to buying mesos in meso market (Legit way, or else trading p2p but it was illegal in TOS).
So now they can do shit about the new cubing system and player can't complain because it's "FREE' now.
Not really the FTC can examine how much mesos people are buying then apply it to cubing and SF systems. Just cause they "converted" the cash doesn't let them get away with it. Else genshin didn't need to disclose the rates due to"free" primogems
The comments telling me people prefer paying for “dynamic RNG” cubes and farming more than 150mil mesos per day.
You're telling me you're okay with dynamic RNG, but with a "choice" and only getting to do it 5 times a day before you're broke.
Hopping over to Path of Exile 2 if this patch doesn't change when it reaches GMS
wow if these changes go live reboot is literally dead. How the f*ck are you suposed to get mesos if Ursus is removed, boss crystals are nerfed and farming mesos is capped? like wtf are these braindead, completely out of touch changes? At this point they are just making the game insuferable to play so players stop playing and they can just shut down everything. Just nuke the game now and be done with it, don't kill the game slowly like this.
Times like these that make me say
If Maple wasn't greedy I'd pay all day
Leaving for now until again astray
I hope to love Maple again one day
Press Cube to Pay Respects
So reboot it will be 20x more expensive to cube because reds go from 12m to 42m and boss crystals go down to like 1/5th the previous price, 10x more expensive to black cube, and about 3.5x more expensive to starforce. Can’t wait for the 3rd reboot server to release so we don’t have to be jealous of all the people with 3L potentials, it’s gonna be such a waste of money to go for 3L that people will have to 23* their gear first.
it has officially changed to Mesos Story
More like CapStory
Completely destroys the meaning behing having different servers that fit different playstyles. Just waiting to see if it hits GMS.
Considering how SEA tends to follow extremely closely to KMS, I think the writing is on the wall my dudes
rip when cubing 2 lines for mule...
Hi Steve, since it has potential button, but seems like only shows cubing for main potential but how to cube for additional potential? Using additional pot cube?
brother did you even watch the video?
i dont know if im happy this game is going to die finally, or sad to see my most played game of all time get reduced to a pile of rotting flesh due to a corrupted company. either way, many people will finally touch grass very soon, which is always a good thing.
This comes to GMS then I'm liberating from the game like everyone else.
Does anyone know where we can read up on how KMS players feel about these (and other) changes? Is Inven the best source for that? Or maybe the KMS Official Forums?
I wonder... How does Nexon Korea (the higher ups) feel about KMS Reboot? Like do they care about that server? Or perhaps they regret ever making it a thing? Do they genuinely think these changes are somehow positive for KMS Reboot players? I'm so damn curious how they think and what their logic is behind so many of their decisions this past calendar year. It's hard not to think that this is all some ruse to shake the community in an attempt to shift the focus of the playerbase... Question would be "why?" ofcourse, but only they would know that. I have so many tinfoil hat theories that could possibly explain these massive game-changing updates, but I'm praying to the heavens that I'm wrong lmao.
Anywho, thanks for bringing us some footage of these changes in the KMST as always. 🙌
I am a person who plays kms. Public opinion in Inven, Maple's largest community, is currently insane. Inven's administrators found excessive expressions of hate and violence, so much so that they restricted the writing of posts.
Kms' original server players who are not currently using the reboot server want the reboot server to die. These changes were introduced because they believed reboot servers were servers that shouldn't exist because they don't use a lot of cash. They consider reboot server users to be disabled, trash, and an evil to society. The reason is simply that they spend less money on games. I am stating the actual public opinion without any exaggeration.
kms users who use reboot servers find this situation ridiculous. The changes that will be introduced in the future are not for any positive development of the game, but rather to appease users of the original servers. This is quite unfair and the management is being tyrannical.
16m for a level 120 item just for epic > unique is INSANE for a new player, so expensive. Reboot is going straight to hell lmao
Without the cubes, it is literally just a roulette lol.
I wish nexon was capable of balancing two separate server types and separate experiences, but no it looks like they always just nerf reboot to match reg because reg whales cry so hard nonstop
They overnerfed reboot for sure, but that's because it was so overtuned that it literally made no sense for someone to play reg. They literally had to close down reboot registrations in korea because reboot was killing reg. That's how blatantly overtuned it was, that you'd literally have to be fucking insane to play reg.
2.5x base exp was almost a free fz totem, which they don't even have in kr
6x base meso gain enabled HYPER FAST progression
Huge profits from boss crystals
FD buff enabling easier boss mules that don't have to go through the trouble of scrolling+bonus cubing, further dramatically speeding up progression
Increased boss drop rates buff
Cubes for sale at the vendor
We're talking lightning fast progression. It might have been more balanced in the CRA/Magnus days when the game was harder. But to say it wasn't overtuned now is copium.
They still overnerfed it. Boss crystal gains should be 2-3x to make up for not having access to trading/auctionhouse.
so... whats the point of the reboot server?
so where the gains? its not scaling to better ?
How can Korean players be okay with this changes? They nerf not only reboot but reg server too. This is peak stockholm syndrome situation.
Lets wait if it comes to gms, if it does it was a nice run. Not spending for the next 6 months 😂 well maybe just for the monthly vac pet.
yeah? and what's your pet gonna vac? LMAO
@@nianticseizure mesos
@@nianticseizuremesos for 6 months
The easiest way to say no is to quit the game until they change.
As a reg server player and long time grinder, Tis changes suck from the stupid mesos cap. Now I can't farm mesos and frag at the same time wtf.
So, what would be the point to play Reboot after these changes ? That's the part I didn't get, tbf.
Ironman mode server
I am a person who plays kms.
Kms' original server players who are not currently using the reboot server want the reboot server to die. These changes were introduced because they believed reboot servers were servers that shouldn't exist because they don't use a lot of cash. They consider reboot server users to be disabled, trash, and an evil to society. The reason is simply that they spend less money on games. I am stating the actual public opinion without any exaggeration.
KMS users who use reboot servers are very angry about this situation. The changes that will be introduced in the future are not for any positive development of the game, but rather to appease users of the original servers. This is quite unfair and the management is being tyrannical.
The population of original server players is nearly five times that of reboot players, so the reboot server cannot currently win the public opinion battle. Even though this is a fairly unreasonable change. The game development team and Wonki noticed this and decided to kill the reboot servers even more.
What are the KMS players opinions on these changes?
pretty sure they're happy about this because the majority of players are reg servers.
From what I've seen, regular world whales are celebrating (as usual) at reboot suffering, and pretty much every one else hates it. Pls someone correct me if wrong
KMS player opinions are complicated.
The opinions of users who responded positively are as follows.
1. All additional options have a Memorial feature.
2. Meso has become valuable, increasing the value of gameplay.
3. Making cubes for free has the effect of being a healthy game in the long run.
The opinions of users who responded negatively are as follows.
1. This nerf is the same act of shifting responsibility for Maple's incompetent operation to users.
2. There is no explanation for probability manipulation yet, and making the cube free is nothing more than escaping the issue of paid goods fraud.
3. There is still a huge shortage of mesos needed for Star Force.
Thank you, first person ive seen to actually be able to post a (at least seemingly) unbiased overview of Korean players' opinions on the matter. @@trombone93
@@trombone93 Oh wow, thanks for the insight! I totally had a different POV, I was thinking most KMS players would outrage especially the whales, given the fact that the fundamental of the game has changed. It is gonna be harder for the whales to play the game since there is a meso cap implemented restricting them from cubing/sf-ing.
Wonder how will this change affect the market price of the ready-made eqs.
Oh boy it's over
“They don’t have rigged cubes anymore” 💀💀
This is the death to reboot and the death to maplestory lol
rest in peace ursusus 🙏
Actually this is not Reboot meso nerf, this is Reboot server death.
Rip..
eko top viper hello
@@MizuLuri
hahaha hello mizu
They need to reduce 1-15 more if they want a cap it and 16 to 20 by 30%
What will happen to new event reward? Give miso?
Change good for KMS non-reboot.
Terrible for Reboot with zero rational and logic behind gutting reboot besides they felt like it, for the lulls, and wonki giving reboot the double birdies.
Reboot is just getting screwed over, player base PO'd, with no benefits to make sense of the nerfs. Usually things are they nerf reboot, but have something else given so that it ends up being a net buff still.
This only benefits the kms reg whales. Since they already spend God knows how much money on kms. This is going to hurt the f2p and casual players the most.
@@DB-rp2gjthats the thing if its only good for the whales, once ftp and casuals start quitting, who whales gonna sell shit to? Good job nexon
R.I.P Maple 2013-2024 I wasted My years playing you and you were fun but it’s time we part ways.
Bots will be all thats left once Nexons's done.
this shit is literally the comet that killed the dinos
Reboot will be basically as I predicted, a reg server where players cannot trade.
Probably they'll allow trading soon and just make it reg server. It doesn't make sense on having reboot servers at this point if they are basically the same.
do gms get this too its really nice for f2p cubing ?
Only in kms right?
kms *test server
BlackMage knew all along and we were too busy to kick his butt.
Meso cap is only going to impact actual players not bots, bots will just make new characters... seriously pointless and stupid, same with removing Ursus they will just bot in other ways, just harming legit players. Find other ways to deal with bots it's not difficult
There are ways to deal with bots but they refuse to hire people to actually perform that duty.
@@DB-rp2gjisit high cost to hire, otherwise I dun see the reason why not.
yeah +1000 likes you
Reboot is literally dead. No reason to play reboot anymore. Just play at regular server and enjoy the trading,bpot system.
no way they taking my ursus buff away
To me, Reboot world is truly dead if Nexon add the current scrolling and bonus potential system, without doing anything to provide more F2P means of earning messos.
They'd need to make it cheaper or give us significantly better rates.
the real Maplestory: Last Chapter
So wonki is last boss here ?
So, is there a limit to how many mesos you can get a day from trade? Or how many you can get from meso market? This basically is a revive for regular servers as people will have to go back to merching. I dont think this is inherently bad actually. This is really good for the life of the game and it will also make high pot items cheaper sinse you can make them with meso now. But nexon still has to make money somehow. Sinse MS is F2P they need to make a system that inconviences us into spending money. Thats what cubes where made to do. Whats going to be the next one...
With this change it pretty much removes or shifts the blame of fraud that KMS got caught in and also makes KMS be the sole supplier of Meso. Seeing as you can purchase Maple Points with Nexon Cash through the Cash Shop.
If this change comes to GMS~
In GMS I remember theres a maximum of 10 transactions through the Meso Market, so with the max meso available to purchase through Meso Market going from 1B to 5B, the daily limit technically would be 50B Meso.
I dont think Meso transactions through boss crystals, trade or Auction House would affect your daily meso cap, as from what I can see its mainly just mob drops.
As you said KMS has 2 sides of the argument regarding the change but mainly the issues are sprouting from Reboot players as it pretty much kills the Reboot player population.
You’re delusional. No one wants to play reg
It’s literally going to be either one of three things; or even all of them… 1 being cap increasing. They showed they wanted to do this with 6th job so they just changed where they were going to hit it. 2 raw mesos.. probably an item that will give you mesos based on the map that you’re on with how many hits it takes to kill the mobs. Relatively simple to do. 3. Nx based auction house… no gambling involved but would directly control the games economy as well as what items are available. Would allow them to manipulate the game and rates without breaking any laws as it’s no longer gambling or rate based.
will this come to gms?
Instead of manipulating rates, now they just manipulate the meso market
Does meso cap include selling items in auction house or boss crystal, etc or is it just purely from mob drop?
From my understanding it looks like its purely mob drops where the cap is effected. So other methods of obtaining meso shouldnt impact your daily cap limitations.
no just from mobbing, every other method doesn't count for the cap
Only mob, bosses, merching and meso market are uncapped
The game is self imploding
I cannot fathom the thought process behind nerfing the meso gain and making everything even more expensive after having a HUGE scandal being reveiled to the public. And even touching the reboot meso gain which already has it's own difficulty curve since there is no trade and thus economy system is complete and utter BS. The only thing they care about is people pumping in more real money (look at the meso market change) and increasing the necessity of gameplay hours which in turn looks good for their numbers. They don't care about gameplay. They don't care about progression. Do they even care about the game?
No.
Well….. Who would believe it… Nexon with another masterpiece.
They absolutely know what they are doing and they make sure the normal server whales and minor whales will be happy and keep spending while reboot will die slowly and some players will HAVE to play the normal server.
After all the whales and minor whales have to keep spending basically on the game to feel superior on the average players.
Nexon with another master plan…. GG that’s a K.O. To the average players and f2p scene overall.
We are at a point that 5% of the community takes the side of Nexon and we know exactly who they are and 95% of the community want Nexon to burn to ashes.
As a non-reboot player, I'd rather be able to roll cubes w/o paying real money for cubes with the better rates than the farmable ones. 190 mil a day is 4 black cube rolls which is $10 a day (and yes the exchange rates are way worse). Ok so you're gonna spend 10$ a day on average on this game HAHAHA sure. Also a new pity system to not fk over unlucky players. They are improving one of the shittiest systems in the game and this is a good thing.
I not sure oversea will get pity system and same potential reset price as them. Since market is dif for other region.