1:49 at least penistone station building is still standing as it did when the last train ever come here and at least the Huddersfield platforms are still open to the public but not so for the woodhead route
The line also suffered from being more expensive to operate trains along it as BR would need to have at least 3 locomotives available for the same train, 2 diesel (one at each end) and at least 1 Class 76. The Fiddlers Ferry MGR trains are a case in point.
If the Manchester Piccadilly-Hadfield/Glossop line was convertible from 1500 DC to 25kv AC electrification why couldn’t the whole line have been done? This was so short-sighted and a hideous waste!
@@trainman86trainstramsandmore Only because that’s within easy commuting distance to Manchester. If you need to go to Sheffield now it’s a hell of a long way round!
A new tunnel would have been required as the arc distance for 25kV AC is a lot greater that for 1500V DC. But what would have been the point? Atbthe time the decision was made to close this route traffic levels across the country were falling due to the recession,ov the early 1980s.
0:31 - This is not true, the Great Eastern Main Line was electrified at 1500VDC from Liverpool street to Shenfield in 1949, and extended as far as Chelmsford and Southend before conversion to 6.25Kv AC in the 1960's, and then 25Kv in the 1980's
Not the first either, the Shildon to Eramus Yard was electrified c.1915 by the NER to 1500V DC as a test bed for the electrification of the NER's section of the ECML. IIRC at least one ex-NER ,locomotive ended up at Ilford as part of that line's electrification.
Well intresting thanks even though it was hard to see and read the text Sad to see it all closed , to think we had a electric main line in the 50s And then i look at todays .....#mess !!!
Should I redo this video again?
1:49 at least penistone station building is still standing as it did when the last train ever come here and at least the Huddersfield platforms are still open to the public but not so for the woodhead route
Excellent! That took me back a fair bit! Cheers!
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The line also suffered from being more expensive to operate trains along it as BR would need to have at least 3 locomotives available for the same train, 2 diesel (one at each end) and at least 1 Class 76. The Fiddlers Ferry MGR trains are a case in point.
Good to see a map.
If the Manchester Piccadilly-Hadfield/Glossop line was convertible from 1500 DC to 25kv AC electrification why couldn’t the whole line have been done? This was so short-sighted and a hideous waste!
It would have been expensive to convert the whole thing but they still saved it up to Hadfield
@@trainman86trainstramsandmore Only because that’s within easy commuting distance to Manchester. If you need to go to Sheffield now it’s a hell of a long way round!
@@nigelkthomas9501 unless u go on transpennine express I suppose
A new tunnel would have been required as the arc distance for 25kV AC is a lot greater that for 1500V DC. But what would have been the point? Atbthe time the decision was made to close this route traffic levels across the country were falling due to the recession,ov the early 1980s.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 What absolute crap!
0:31 - This is not true, the Great Eastern Main Line was electrified at 1500VDC from Liverpool street to Shenfield in 1949, and extended as far as Chelmsford and Southend before conversion to 6.25Kv AC in the 1960's, and then 25Kv in the 1980's
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Not the first either, the Shildon to Eramus Yard was electrified c.1915 by the NER to 1500V DC as a test bed for the electrification of the NER's section of the ECML. IIRC at least one ex-NER ,locomotive ended up at Ilford as part of that line's electrification.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 He specifically said first main line. The Shildon line was not a main line, so does not count.
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Well intresting thanks even though it was hard to see and read the text
Sad to see it all closed , to think we had a electric main line in the 50s
And then i look at todays .....#mess !!!
Sorry about the text issue this happens often