Possibly repeating what someone else has said so apologies. That is the Guards compartment not Controllers, that's an American term. The decorative cloths over the seats are called antimacassar. Macassar was an oil that gentlemen put on their hair so these were to protect the upholstery. People had them on their furniture at home for the same reason back in the day, and also used on the arms of chairs. As an apprentice Vehicle Builder at The Plant Doncaster BREL I worked on many MKI and II coaches and also many Brake Vans. We had the Royal Scotsman coaches in one year and they were something else.
Back in the early 60s greasy hair goo went out of fashion. "Greasy kid stuff" it was called in commercials for Vitalis, as I recall. Nobody uses stuff like Brylcreem anymore.
Over 20 years ago, I worked for a railroad in the United States, and we had a great deal of abandoned infrastructure. Mostly buildings, a turntable that actually worked, as well as dormant microwave sites scattered across the line. Looking, I wish I would have taken pictures, as most of it is long gone. Some the newer cars in your video, don't look too terribly old - perhaps 20 or 30-years old. With the mold & bird droppings, a respirator is definitely required. Thanks for taking the video, as it was both entertaining & educational. :)
For info - the 'decorative napkins' over the backs of the seats in the first class carriage are actually called antimacassars. They are so placed to try to avoid the seat backs getting 'filthy' from the heads of travellers resting on them.
9711 was moved to Weardale Railway in January 2020, so the Mk2 DBSO has been in this shed a little over a year. It is due for restoration, however like so many projects, covid will have paused these plans - the owners, Crewe Diesel Preservation are planning on refurbishing a full push-pull set in fact. The Inter-City Mk2 M3374 carriage is available to buy as a Hornby model and, I THINK, is owned by Riviera Trains, who of course are also not operating due to covid. Rolling stock storage is often basic but run down, but there nothing here which is abandoned or forgotten in the slightest. My dad is a huge railway geek and I was in sheds worse than this back in the early 80s watching engineering volunteers slowly restore their giant projects.
these are probably stored here pending restoration, having already been purchased by a heritage railway or railtour company. Great to see no smashed glass or deliberate vandalism/graffiti etc. Thanks for not disclosing the location, as it helps keep the idiots away. That old mk1 First Class coach is in great condition. A cool explore this one, and i enjoyed watching it.
The cab is a Driving Brake Second Open. This was part of a batch of MK2f carriages converted in 1979 for the Edinburgh to Glasgow service. As this was a back and forth journey it meant that the Locomotive could be controlled and train driven from the opposite end of the rake in one of the 2 directions, normally from Edinburgh to Glasgow. This means that this was not necessary for the Locomotive to run round at one end of the journey and it could operate the service in push-pull mode, saving time in the intensive schedule. A batch of Class 47 locos were converted to be able to run in push-pull mode and reclassified as 47/7. In 1984 when the train was travelling at high speed in push mode and had just passed Polmont, the leading DBSO hit a cow thst had got into the line and due to its relatively light weight, derailed. As the loco continued to push for a few more seconds, the carriages zig-zagged, causing a many fatalities. The DBSOs still in service today are now speed limited as a result.
They worked from London Liverpool Street to Norwich on the Great Eastern main, in recent years, with Class 86 and 90s propelled at speeds of up to 100 mph. Several mods were made since the incident in '84 including snowploughs, added ballast weight and gangway reinforcement to enable 100 mph running. Some were recently in use with DRS and Network Rail.
My old account was on that train,,he changed seats with the man next to him and that man got killed 15 minutes later by being partially flung out a window,my accountant of Muslim faith said the experience changed his life.
Not really as abandoned but more likely stored out of harms way. The blue / greys look to me as being part of a fully restored set that was recently out on the mainline for tours. Let's hope videos like this don't end up giving chance for vandals trashing them.
Sadly they'll crush you to death if you were to crash in one. As nice as a lot of the old carriages were they're literal death traps compared to modern ones.
I’m not even 50 and I remember trains having these “private” compartments. All I see now are dens of smoke and a bygone age but that’s how many trains were in the UK up until the 1980s. The Mk2 coach, the one they said wasn’t that interesting, it looks just like the diesel-pulled InterCity trains I remember! This is the age of the train!
Car 9711 is an old DBSO (driving brake second open) which I recognize from the Norwich to London Liverpool Street line where I worked on the railway for 24yrs. These were withdrawn back in the 00s and were originally pushed pulled with class 86 locos, hence the driver controls at one end. It is still in "Anglia" blue and white livery. I will just add these sets came from Scotland where they were used on push-pull services between Glasgow and Edinburgh with a 47/7 for motive power.
I would definitely love to see more vehicle graveyards. I’m a huge car and urbex fanatic, so combining the two worlds is perfect to me. Keep up the videos lad, loving them!
The Building was originally the Gun Barrel Shed, part of the Wolsingham Iron Works Established in 1864. Gun Barrels for the Royal Navy where cast and machined in the building during World War 1, extended during World War 2 producing Shells & Casings and RMS Titanic's Anchor Head was Cast on Site as their as well. Plans to make the Garde II listed building into a museum for the Weardale Railway have not materialized so far.
Sadly listing buildings seldom seems to help with their preservation as the jobs for the boys shambolic way English heritage is run. Take it from someone who is trying to renovate a Grade 2 listed cottage.
@@PurityVendetta If it’s only grade II you’ll be dealing with the local conservation officer not Historic England (as it is now called). Gaining LBC for even major changes to a grade II building is usually pretty easy, as long as you put the case.
Great video guys! I guess a facility like this one is not in regular use anymore due to the size of modern trains, as well as the unsafe condition of the structure. Maybe it was built to service steam engines back in the day? Anyway, more videos like this one please. The history of the UK's transport infrastructure is really interesting and not often reported.
Aviation, especially on the older commercial planes, the wing numbers tell a story of original owners until they are retired. Although today’s and previous videos all good! Keep up the good work!
In over 30 yrs on The Railway, that is the first ever Brakevan that I have seen that doesn`t have a Coal Stove in it. It used to be part of my job to prepare those things for going into traffic, including lighting the Fire. Network Rail only Banned them from use not long ago.
Love this vid pal! The ‘napkins’ on the headrests/seat backs are called antimacassars. There were designed to protect the seats from chemicals in hair creams back in the day. Just a little fun fact there for ya. Cheers for the vid. Get me fired up to do some urbex myself which I’ve always fancied.
The Wairarapa line, connecting Wellington NZ, up the Hutt Valley, through the 8.9 Km Rimutaka tunnel and on over the plains to Masterton--about 100 Km all told, uses mainly refurbished and regauged Mk2 carriages with plug doors. There is plenty of bright lighting, personal reading lights, good toilets and a power point for every seat. Roaring along at about 70--85 km/hr...or less.. it is a real cruise of a journey. 100km==100 mins :-)
They're not really called 'cars' in the UK, that's mainly American terminology. They're called coaches or carriages here. And these aren't abandoned, they're up for renovation and sadly if folk get into them and ruin them, then they will indeed become scrap. You were clearly respectful, which is great, but so many others aren't and these things get destroyed or burnt out.
@Ben LawsIndeed. Hence why I said 'not really', as opposed to 'not'. There are some exceptions, but on the whole, they're coaches or carriages. Depends on the type of train.
@@StrathpefferJunction In the UK it's generally loco hauled trailing stock which are known as coaches or carriages, whereas it's the vehicles of self powered multiple unit trains which are known as "cars", especially with urban electric units, like those on the london underground.
For Heaven's sake, people! When he said, " burnt-out car warehouse", he meant the automobile warehouse and garage that had been gutted by a conflagration of flame and 🔥 , that had been documented on the news. The one owned by an automobile dealership.
@@majorpygge-phartt2643 Yes; as you say, London Underground people often shorten the term to ‘car’, as per ‘6 car set’ etc. These days, with modern stock there’s not much difference with so much being ‘self powered’ rather than loco hauled.
I remember the WCML in 1974, Lodon to Glasgow, fairly sure the locomotive was an 84 in early Electric Blue but not certain, it was all so clean and felt like you were in a rocket, my usual motive power was a 4EPB!
Wow what a find bet you never expected that when you stood outside these building. Absolutely love this kind of stuff. Don’t think the building has much time left so is likely to start collapsing on the rolling stock within 😢 Great video guys
Thank you, that was interesting to see. The cloth on the back of the chairs is called 'Antimacasa' it comes from when Men used an oil in their hair (like Brillcream) called Macasa. It used to stain the back of armchairs at home or when out, so everyone used antimacasa's.
English accent but strange American terminology..... "car" - carriage "cabin" - cab "railroad" - railway "fee" - fare "decorative napkins" - err, headreast covers/antimacassars "there wasn't nowhere near as much...."
It's the same as that family guy episode, when Stewie says to Brian about his girlfriend Jillian's voice getting that inflection in her voice, and her voice going up at the end of every senteeence!. I noticed it working in a shop, that so many people now speak with a fake American voice, and cant even form a sentence without using the word like... When students came in to the shop from say London,it would be that stupid gangsta "innit,blud"" accent,or the generic accent, that's now used in every part of the country
It’s amazing how people think sites are abandoned and trespass on other peoples property. We had a similar situation on the Wirral. People would turn up at a functioning training centre and help themselves to property on the train.
That's a guards van with the wheel in that was at the end of the train with a guardsman in the train was at the front pulling the carriages. It shows you the younger generation using the American terms for words that's the one that's the influence from America. Although I do thank you for the footage very interesting and that lovely long old building.
The coaches with the long double insulated windows are MK3/4's and the white and maroon coach is a MK1 BR standard, also some hoppers, a fuel tanker, a 20T brake van. Although the MK3's look abandoned, the soft furnishings are easily replaced and being of all galvanised steel and aluminium construction can be brought back to use fairly quickly. MK1's had ash frames as well as asbestos fireproofing which is why many MK1's linger untouched because the asbestos removal is a heinous job to take on. The MK3's were originally designed for the Intercity 125 sets, an interesting side note is Reliant that maker of three wheel vehicles of which I own one, made all the fibreglass under carriage furniture as well as the plastic coach end interiors for British Rail. A lot of heritage railways have gained very cheap MK3's but they don't sit well with steam and not all heritage railways have copious amounts of mainline diesels in their flock so they are warehoused until suitable engines are acquired, also some heritage companies who restore coaches to mainline operation lease them to steam and diesel charter companies who operate railtours but with the baloneyvirus stopping everything, its likely these are mothballed until the plandemic has ended. (I use those terms precisely in that some suggest that those in control held their hand back so their slimy mates could bilk billions out of the taxpayer, the longer the crisis the more billions they can thieve, Covid is a nasty nasty contagion that should have been dealt with far more effectively than the hamfisted bumbleclustery we got from BloJo)
You story is very illuminating, but that was the Original Question. I don’t need a story book resume, being in the Railway Industry for 58 years means I am aware of all you say and perhaps more.
For anyone questioning this shed I found where it is and I won't give away its location but all the stock isn't abandoned it is all preserved under a heritage society and this shed connects to a much bigger yard with mainline connection, so without permissions this video is more illegal than you may think
It is abandoned there's hardly any roof above and you can hear all the water coming in, they would have much newer and secured places built to house trains to be worked on, that place is disused for sure. Most of those trains are from British rail era.
@@TheAnonyy it isn't the shed is apart of weardale railway the carriage siding is falling apart but those coaches are mainline ready and are used for rail tours
@@TheAnonyy its not Abandoned, its a fully operational Preserved line, its operated by Volunteers and need the money donated by others to help restore things like it, its the weardale railway
Ah yes an Anglia mk2 DVT. I used to see these operate on the London liverpool st to Norwich via Chelmsford with a class 86/87 propelling. Think they were withdrawn around mid 2000s when replaced by the class 90 IC sets
Mk2 DBSO rather than DVT (the mk3 driving vehicles were DVT - which yes you're right, is what caused them to be withdrawn). And pulled/pushed by Class 86 or 90. Class 87s never worked in regular service on Anglia.
I think the two Mark 2 coaches are Mk2D.s. These were my favourites as the ride was very good without being spongy, the seats were positioned directly at windows and were low enough not to create a sense of claustrophobia. All carriage design since then has showed declines in comfort, by use of aircraft style high backed seats and partially or fully blocked views of the passing landscape.
That blue end unit, was used so that they did not have to change ends with the locomotive, they could drive it from either end, two sets come to mind, the gatwick express, and the Edinburgh to Glasgow express, where they were driven from either end for time saving and simplicity,
The napkins on the seat backs are called antimaccassars and they are to mop up hair oil. People used to oil their hair.... The red"engine" with the brake wheel is an old guards van that would have been found as last carriage on every train, and which on passenger trains would have accepted bicycles and extra baggage.
Another so called abandoned place that isn’t, the coaches are stored awaiting restoration , the last thing needed is vandals finding the place , take nothing but photos leave nothing but footprints, hope they end up back on the main line .
Weardale Shed. Not disused. Carriages stored for later restoration. I am sure you could have got permission to enter if you had contacted the Weardale Railway. E3507 is not listed on my register of existing Mk1 & 2 Carriages so now added for future observation.
At 7:50 he says "a brakevan was added to the end of a train as the cars did not have brakes." I knew British Rail did things on the cheap, but not that cheap!. There's not much friction between steel wheels and steel rails - so all trains have brakes on every car/wagon/carriage. Typically they are operated by the release of vacuum in a hose continuous throughout the length of the train.
I cannot understand what vandals get out of ruining places and totally trashing them? Not either of you though.The maroon and cream carriage reminded me of when I was a student in Glasgow a very, very long time ago. When I went home to Oban at the end of term, the train that I was on, had to travel at some speed, till it got to Craigendoran outside Helensburgh, as the blue electric trains used the same track, and were close behind us, and went to Helensburgh Lower station! One of my friends had her suitcase from the rack above, fall and wallop her on the head! "Those were the days", and it was lovely to see the old carriages. I love your videos, as they often stir my memories. ........old Tich.
Was the short vehicle they called an engine in the text in reality is a brake van.?...the wheel is for a manual brake which old time guards applied on non-braked goods trains.
Apart from the 'Americanisms' creeping into the English language, was a very interesting video. To be honest they didn't seem that old to me, but I'm one that went to school on a steam train in the late 1950's early 1960's.
I would love to see more abandoned machinery graveyards, whether it's planes, trains, ships or automobiles. There's just something special about seeing these steel monsters who will never run again. If the locations are too small maybe make a compilation episode. Thank you very much!
At 7:38 the carriage/coach you're in is DBSO 9711 which is in Anglia Railways livery was retired from service in December 2006. It was moved to Crewe in Jan 2023.
Great video of stuff most of us would like see, keep it up guys, especially the industrial sites which I find really intriguing. More vehicle/machinery graveyards ? Yes please 👍
They are not abandoned neither is the shed. This is a heritage railway and like all heritage railways is closed ATM due to government restrictions. This is a secure site with big fences and security measures. Its a live railway site. This is trespass.
06.04 These are 1970s rolling stock. In the late 1970s I did something like 12,000 miles a year using carriages like this. Look at the space with a table at every window and compare it with the trains of today with airplane type seating. I could well have stood at that buffet bar. Thanks for showing.
Better than it being left to rack and ruin though. This way we have all got to take a look at it instead of just a few hoarders. And thankyou, now a few more of us can go take a look as we know where it is with a bit of research on the internet. Just found it myself using the internet.
@@waynesmith4612 Hoarders? You of course know how much attention these need to become serviceable for Main Line use? It isn't hoarding. A train tends to have many pieces of rolling stock. They need many items, especially different types. If you want to see them, go to the Heritage Railways, and pay to see them, which helps the restorations costs to be covered. The DBSO means less run arounds, and no need for loops, and a propelling return journey, with a suitable equipped loco. Bums on seats pays for us all to see them. Private storage should be respected.
@@MAPFWH Yes but right now no-one is seeing them except a select few, not only that if you watch the vlog you will see they are just going to further rack and ruin. Sorry i have seen this to many times, things going to be restored by people who just have no idea or the funds to complete the task. But in fairness to all, yes some preservation groups do a fine job as i'm sure we both know, but i have to ask you in all honesty judging by this vlog this doesn't seem to be the case does it? Lets hope this vlog kick starts the restoration because as i said this place is really easy to find using the internet. Lets hope they get restored before the wrong type of explorers find them. Personally i'm glad these have been brought to light and i do genuinely hope they get fully restored to their former glory, that im certain we can both agree on.
@@MAPFWH By the looks of them coaches work stopped on them long before covid started, judging by their state sometime around the time of the black death.
The modern train sets here in the UK which are designed and made by international manufacturers, although assembled in the UK, are based on a so-called international aesthetic standard. In terms of the design requirement or the demand, the train companies nowadays are seeking for efficient most, then safety under the supervision of the government. The sitting comfort has been put on a less priority position. Sadly, even we think the old style interior is stunning and vivid, they're probably regarded as unpractical by train operators. It is little possible to see them running on the track again for a regular service while heritage expo services could be possible.
Ex Foundry this building was used to load castings onto rail cars and not originally a rail repair depot these are awaiting restoration . They form part of a heritage rail line now if you'd looked through the windows and doors you would have seen the shunting line and all the other paraphernalia of the heritage line
Disliked not because they filmed it, but it's opened up to vandals and arsonists, as many have said, coaches and loco stored due to covid lockdown. And some more vulnerable coaches stored away from weather for protection. And most in service condition awaiting reopening of heritage runs and revenue to restore coaches waiting repair.
@@s.a.m_e.v.a.n.s I think you've missed my point. They entered private property when they had no business to be there, splashed it on u tube thus revealing the location through other peoples comments, leaving the place open to vandalism by less scrupulous individuals. My point was, people should stay out of places they shouldn't be, ie, have the respect to do so.
Its not a railway maintenance depot. It was a gun barrel shed where they made the huge guns for the royal navys battleships in the dreadnought arms race. Its now owned by a heritage railway who have repurposed it.
The British Railways mk1 carriage was the basis for the class 305 which ran from Liverpool Street to Enfield Town, Chingford, Cambridge, Bishops Stortford & Hertford until 1987. The trains were a great ride with comfortable seats that surpass the Class 315 which ran on the Southbury line until recently with the London Overground running newer trains & the Class 317 which still runs on the Lea Valley line alongside ex-Stanstead Express Class 379 while the Stanstead Express is running with Class 745 trains.
The small brown one is actually a brake van what the American term a caboose for those in the states and was used on goods trains for the guard you would typically find a stove vacuum/air brake and the big wheel you commented the driver using is the hand brake which was mainly used fur taking up slack in the coupling chains when slowing down to stop wagons bouncing back and forth and damaging the stock and the good contained within
This is the heritage railway that I work at, they are not abandoned at all and its a live, working depot. They hopefully should be restored soon
What heritage?
You sure
Was this place used once as a film set? It looks familiar. PS. You’re not a ghost that don’t know you are dead yet?
that was wy the hearing pros where like new
Sure thing. When will they be ready, 2040?
Possibly repeating what someone else has said so apologies. That is the Guards compartment not Controllers, that's an American term. The decorative cloths over the seats are called antimacassar. Macassar was an oil that gentlemen put on their hair so these were to protect the upholstery. People had them on their furniture at home for the same reason back in the day, and also used on the arms of chairs. As an apprentice Vehicle Builder at The Plant Doncaster BREL I worked on many MKI and II coaches and also many Brake Vans. We had the Royal Scotsman coaches in one year and they were something else.
Back in the early 60s greasy hair goo went out of fashion. "Greasy kid stuff" it was called in commercials for Vitalis, as I recall. Nobody uses stuff like Brylcreem anymore.
Good to hear from someone who knows what they talking about.
My inner train nerd is having a field day with this video.
Over 20 years ago, I worked for a railroad in the United States, and we had a great deal of abandoned infrastructure. Mostly buildings, a turntable that actually worked, as well as dormant microwave sites scattered across the line. Looking, I wish I would have taken pictures, as most of it is long gone.
Some the newer cars in your video, don't look too terribly old - perhaps 20 or 30-years old. With the mold & bird droppings, a respirator is definitely required. Thanks for taking the video, as it was both entertaining & educational. :)
Well i have never seen a set of points inside a shed like this. In fact it looks to be a complete crossover. Amazing.
For info - the 'decorative napkins' over the backs of the seats in the first class carriage are actually called antimacassars. They are so placed to try to avoid the seat backs getting 'filthy' from the heads of travellers resting on them.
Thanks for letting us know!
Yes, I posted that already x
Victorian gentleman used Macassar oil to style and fragrance their hair.
@@Pianoguy32 I mean that was a hundred years before that coach was made
@@noaerrr the headrest covers were around then too. Hence they are called 'antimacassars'
9711 was moved to Weardale Railway in January 2020, so the Mk2 DBSO has been in this shed a little over a year. It is due for restoration, however like so many projects, covid will have paused these plans - the owners, Crewe Diesel Preservation are planning on refurbishing a full push-pull set in fact. The Inter-City Mk2 M3374 carriage is available to buy as a Hornby model and, I THINK, is owned by Riviera Trains, who of course are also not operating due to covid. Rolling stock storage is often basic but run down, but there nothing here which is abandoned or forgotten in the slightest. My dad is a huge railway geek and I was in sheds worse than this back in the early 80s watching engineering volunteers slowly restore their giant projects.
I'd hoped someone might see this video and snap these carriages up and restore and display them.
@@FlickeringEmber They are stored there waiting their turn, cant restore everything at once.
@@FlickeringEmber hi i agree, what clown put them there in the first place ?
@@petersmith4455
No clowns. The point of this comment is that the building and these coaches are NOT abandoned 🤷♂️
That's good news
these are probably stored here pending restoration, having already been purchased by a heritage railway or railtour company. Great to see no smashed glass or deliberate vandalism/graffiti etc. Thanks for not disclosing the location, as it helps keep the idiots away. That old mk1 First Class coach is in great condition. A cool explore this one, and i enjoyed watching it.
Reminds me of the old sheds may Dad worked in at Newton Abbot when it was a proper working station back in the late 70s early 80s
The cab is a Driving Brake Second Open. This was part of a batch of MK2f carriages converted in 1979 for the Edinburgh to Glasgow service. As this was a back and forth journey it meant that the Locomotive could be controlled and train driven from the opposite end of the rake in one of the 2 directions, normally from Edinburgh to Glasgow. This means that this was not necessary for the Locomotive to run round at one end of the journey and it could operate the service in push-pull mode, saving time in the intensive schedule. A batch of Class 47 locos were converted to be able to run in push-pull mode and reclassified as 47/7. In 1984 when the train was travelling at high speed in push mode and had just passed Polmont, the leading DBSO hit a cow thst had got into the line and due to its relatively light weight, derailed. As the loco continued to push for a few more seconds, the carriages zig-zagged, causing a many fatalities. The DBSOs still in service today are now speed limited as a result.
They worked from London Liverpool Street to Norwich on the Great Eastern main, in recent years, with Class 86 and 90s propelled at speeds of up to 100 mph. Several mods were made since the incident in '84 including snowploughs, added ballast weight and gangway reinforcement to enable 100 mph running. Some were recently in use with DRS and Network Rail.
@@kevvynolan8753 Cheers, didn't know that, very interesting. Trying to get an 00 gauge model of one is proving difficult!
@@split_pin don’t think you can get any models, you can get a conversion kit though
@@Bahamas-rd8le Bachmann make an 00 gauge one but its ludicrously expensive.
My old account was on that train,,he changed seats with the man next to him and that man got killed 15 minutes later by being partially flung out a window,my accountant of Muslim faith said the experience changed his life.
Not really as abandoned but more likely stored out of harms way.
The blue / greys look to me as being part of a fully restored set that was recently out on the mainline for tours.
Let's hope videos like this don't end up giving chance for vandals trashing them.
Why is everything so americanised🤷 cool find mind probably grade 2 listed by now
@@deanwilliams5466 they're mk2s E and F types are my guess but they aren't mk3s
I dont think this was made by a rail fan just someone who likes to tresspass into abandoned buildings.
9711 Anglia was actually seen at a scrapyard in 2017, so seeing it here indicates that someone wants to preserve it.
The DBSO seems to be owned by the weardale railway
The interiors of these carriages are in better condition than the current modern day offerings
Much more comfortable as well
Sadly they'll crush you to death if you were to crash in one. As nice as a lot of the old carriages were they're literal death traps compared to modern ones.
@@TalesOfWar true, they used to splinter into a thousand pieces in big accidents.
@@TalesOfWar more chance of getting hit by a train than actually having a crash in one though...
These coaches definitely in storage as they are in very good condition. Used to look after 1254 20 years ago when it was a cross country vehicle.
Get the jargon right lads !
Carriage/Car = Coach 🤦🏼♂️
Warehouse= Carriage shed or depot 🤦🏼♂️
Controller= Guard 🤦🏼♂️
Train= Loco 🤦🏼♂️
Holding cell ! 🤦🏼♂️ = Guards van !
Jargon busted 👍🏼😉
Those seats I remember being so much more comfortable than the new trains, even on first-class, they seem thin and flimsy.
My family like having meals on vintage lines. They dress up these carriages and it's great.❤️
I've seen this building myself many times, but never ventured in as it's still active, with plans for the rail line attached to be used a lot more
Where is it friend lol
@@PrincepsAve Weardale Railway Wolsingham.
The first class seating is not private it's just a corridor carriage which were common up until the mid 1970s.
I’m not even 50 and I remember trains having these “private” compartments. All I see now are dens of smoke and a bygone age but that’s how many trains were in the UK up until the 1980s. The Mk2 coach, the one they said wasn’t that interesting, it looks just like the diesel-pulled InterCity trains I remember! This is the age of the train!
It was the genesis of high capacity trains in the UK, the 2+2 seating arrangement.
Car 9711 is an old DBSO (driving brake second open) which I recognize from the Norwich to London Liverpool Street line where I worked on the railway for 24yrs. These were withdrawn back in the 00s and were originally pushed pulled with class 86 locos, hence the driver controls at one end. It is still in "Anglia" blue and white livery. I will just add these sets came from Scotland where they were used on push-pull services between Glasgow and Edinburgh with a 47/7 for motive power.
DBSO 9711 was originally ex Scotrail. Used between Edinburgh and Glasgow on the push-pulls with a 477 at the other end.
@@rasherpig all DBSOs were originally on the Edinburgh and Glasgow route with 47/7s
@@Trainman10715 Yes. They were all converted in Glasgow for the Push/Pull Edinburgh - Glasgow service
I would definitely love to see more vehicle graveyards. I’m a huge car and urbex fanatic, so combining the two worlds is perfect to me. Keep up the videos lad, loving them!
This isn't a graveyard, more a rather insecure secure store.
Thanks, more to come certainly
ive done a few buddy
The Building was originally the Gun Barrel Shed, part of the Wolsingham Iron Works Established in 1864. Gun Barrels for the Royal Navy where cast and machined in the building during World War 1, extended during World War 2 producing Shells & Casings and RMS Titanic's Anchor Head was Cast on Site as their as well. Plans to make the Garde II listed building into a museum for the Weardale Railway have not materialized so far.
Sadly listing buildings seldom seems to help with their preservation as the jobs for the boys shambolic way English heritage is run. Take it from someone who is trying to renovate a Grade 2 listed cottage.
Interesting
Thanks for this info, I just watched the video.
@@PurityVendetta If it’s only grade II you’ll be dealing with the local conservation officer not Historic England (as it is now called). Gaining LBC for even major changes to a grade II building is usually pretty easy, as long as you put the case.
Great video guys! I guess a facility like this one is not in regular use anymore due to the size of modern trains, as well as the unsafe condition of the structure. Maybe it was built to service steam engines back in the day? Anyway, more videos like this one please. The history of the UK's transport infrastructure is really interesting and not often reported.
Aviation, especially on the older commercial planes, the wing numbers tell a story of original owners until they are retired. Although today’s and previous videos all good! Keep up the good work!
With you on that one 👍
In over 30 yrs on The Railway, that is the first ever Brakevan that I have seen that doesn`t have a Coal Stove in it. It used to be part of my job to prepare those things for going into traffic, including lighting the Fire. Network Rail only Banned them from use not long ago.
Love this vid pal! The ‘napkins’ on the headrests/seat backs are called antimacassars. There were designed to protect the seats from chemicals in hair creams back in the day. Just a little fun fact there for ya. Cheers for the vid. Get me fired up to do some urbex myself which I’ve always fancied.
The Wairarapa line, connecting Wellington NZ, up the Hutt Valley, through the 8.9 Km Rimutaka tunnel and on over the plains to Masterton--about 100 Km all told, uses mainly refurbished and regauged Mk2 carriages with plug doors. There is plenty of bright lighting, personal reading lights, good toilets and a power point for every seat. Roaring along at about 70--85 km/hr...or less.. it is a real cruise of a journey. 100km==100 mins :-)
They're not really called 'cars' in the UK, that's mainly American terminology. They're called coaches or carriages here. And these aren't abandoned, they're up for renovation and sadly if folk get into them and ruin them, then they will indeed become scrap. You were clearly respectful, which is great, but so many others aren't and these things get destroyed or burnt out.
@Ben LawsIndeed. Hence why I said 'not really', as opposed to 'not'. There are some exceptions, but on the whole, they're coaches or carriages. Depends on the type of train.
@@StrathpefferJunction In the UK it's generally loco hauled trailing stock which are known as coaches or carriages, whereas it's the vehicles of self powered multiple unit trains which are known as "cars", especially with urban electric units, like those on the london underground.
For Heaven's sake, people! When he said, " burnt-out car warehouse", he meant the automobile warehouse and garage that had been gutted by a conflagration of flame and 🔥 , that had been documented on the news. The one owned by an automobile dealership.
@@majorpygge-phartt2643 Yes; as you say, London Underground people often shorten the term to ‘car’, as per ‘6 car set’ etc. These days, with modern stock there’s not much difference with so much being ‘self powered’ rather than loco hauled.
Even then, the word passenger is typically used in the American term passenger cars. But we do also say coaches here.
I remember the WCML in 1974, Lodon to Glasgow, fairly sure the locomotive was an 84 in early Electric Blue but not certain, it was all so clean and felt like you were in a rocket, my usual motive power was a 4EPB!
Wow what a find bet you never expected that when you stood outside these building. Absolutely love this kind of stuff.
Don’t think the building has much time left so is likely to start collapsing on the rolling stock within 😢
Great video guys
It's grade 2 listed, the owners want to restore it but need funds first.
Thank you :)
Thank you, that was interesting to see. The cloth on the back of the chairs is called 'Antimacasa' it comes from when Men used an oil in their hair (like Brillcream) called Macasa. It used to stain the back of armchairs at home or when out, so everyone used antimacasa's.
A good insight into how good train travel used to be.
English accent but strange American terminology.....
"car" - carriage
"cabin" - cab
"railroad" - railway
"fee" - fare
"decorative napkins" - err, headreast covers/antimacassars
"there wasn't nowhere near as much...."
Poor educational standards of English schools im afraid.
It's the same as that family guy episode, when Stewie says to Brian about his girlfriend Jillian's voice getting that inflection in her voice, and her voice going up at the end of every senteeence!.
I noticed it working in a shop, that so many people now speak with a fake American voice, and cant even form a sentence without using the word like...
When students came in to the shop from say London,it would be that stupid gangsta "innit,blud"" accent,or the generic accent, that's now used in every part of the country
@@tonyjones9442 Netflix generation. Linguistic impotence.
I enjoy seeing history before it's lost to the elements like this. it's really sad too seeing it treated like this.
The decorative napkins you refer to are "antimacassar" and were used to prevent staining of the upholstery from hair products.
Originally Macassar oil in VIctorian times, of course, hence the name.
BR Mk1 and 2s, they are awaiting removel to Crewe, the building is a gem too.....
Going to Crewe for LSL?
It’s amazing how people think sites are abandoned and trespass on other peoples property. We had a similar situation on the Wirral. People would turn up at a functioning training centre and help themselves to property on the train.
That's a guards van with the wheel in that was at the end of the train with a guardsman in the train was at the front pulling the carriages. It shows you the younger generation using the American terms for words that's the one that's the influence from America. Although I do thank you for the footage very interesting and that lovely long old building.
Love the mk2 coaches. Great find.
The coaches with the long double insulated windows are MK3/4's and the white and maroon coach is a MK1 BR standard, also some hoppers, a fuel tanker, a 20T brake van. Although the MK3's look abandoned, the soft furnishings are easily replaced and being of all galvanised steel and aluminium construction can be brought back to use fairly quickly. MK1's had ash frames as well as asbestos fireproofing which is why many MK1's linger untouched because the asbestos removal is a heinous job to take on. The MK3's were originally designed for the Intercity 125 sets, an interesting side note is Reliant that maker of three wheel vehicles of which I own one, made all the fibreglass under carriage furniture as well as the plastic coach end interiors for British Rail. A lot of heritage railways have gained very cheap MK3's but they don't sit well with steam and not all heritage railways have copious amounts of mainline diesels in their flock so they are warehoused until suitable engines are acquired, also some heritage companies who restore coaches to mainline operation lease them to steam and diesel charter companies who operate railtours but with the baloneyvirus stopping everything, its likely these are mothballed until the plandemic has ended. (I use those terms precisely in that some suggest that those in control held their hand back so their slimy mates could bilk billions out of the taxpayer, the longer the crisis the more billions they can thieve, Covid is a nasty nasty contagion that should have been dealt with far more effectively than the hamfisted bumbleclustery we got from BloJo)
Actually they’re MK2 coaches, not MK3 or 4
You story is very illuminating, but that was the Original Question. I don’t need a story book resume, being in the Railway Industry for 58 years means I am aware of all you say and perhaps more.
Giving the bollocks you said in covid, I’d like to see you run a country with the pressure Boris is getting..
This is Madness they all need to get out of there.
For anyone questioning this shed I found where it is and I won't give away its location but all the stock isn't abandoned it is all preserved under a heritage society and this shed connects to a much bigger yard with mainline connection, so without permissions this video is more illegal than you may think
It is abandoned there's hardly any roof above and you can hear all the water coming in, they would have much newer and secured places built to house trains to be worked on, that place is disused for sure. Most of those trains are from British rail era.
@@TheAnonyy it isn't the shed is apart of weardale railway the carriage siding is falling apart but those coaches are mainline ready and are used for rail tours
@@TheAnonyy its not Abandoned, its a fully operational Preserved line, its operated by Volunteers and need the money donated by others to help restore things like it, its the weardale railway
It'll be magnificent to have this place and the trains restored to its former glory.
Ah yes an Anglia mk2 DVT. I used to see these operate on the London liverpool st to Norwich via Chelmsford with a class 86/87 propelling. Think they were withdrawn around mid 2000s when replaced by the class 90 IC sets
Mk2 DBSO rather than DVT (the mk3 driving vehicles were DVT - which yes you're right, is what caused them to be withdrawn).
And pulled/pushed by Class 86 or 90.
Class 87s never worked in regular service on Anglia.
I went here a few weeks ago and for anyone that hasn’t been it really is as amazing as it looks.
I think the two Mark 2 coaches are Mk2D.s. These were my favourites as the ride was very good without being spongy, the seats were positioned directly at windows and were low enough not to create a sense of claustrophobia. All carriage design since then has showed declines in comfort, by use of aircraft style high backed seats and partially or fully blocked views of the passing landscape.
Yes, the later MK2s were the best!
That blue end unit, was used so that they did not have to change ends with the locomotive, they could drive it from either end, two sets come to mind, the gatwick express, and the Edinburgh to Glasgow express, where they were driven from either end for time saving and simplicity,
Not abandoned, just no-one there when you arrived. It's in use and the carriages are preserved.
These look like stored movie props to me. What do you think viewers?
Nah
@@NinfaCarpentergeorgia198 Definitely not, it's just a maintenance shed of a preserved railway.
I think it used to be a maintenance shed, but is now just a storage shed ... but a crumbling one.
The napkins on the seat backs are called antimaccassars and they are to mop up hair oil. People used to oil their hair....
The red"engine" with the brake wheel is an old guards van that would have been found as last carriage on every train, and which on passenger trains would have accepted bicycles and extra baggage.
Another so called abandoned place that isn’t, the coaches are stored awaiting restoration , the last thing needed is vandals finding the place , take nothing but photos leave nothing but footprints, hope they end up back on the main line .
They wont go back on the mainline bit may go into service for railtours or heritage etc
@@transportacrosstheuk7369 they are going to crew heritage center
@@southwesttransportphotogra554 good to see them getting some.kind of life are they being broken up?
@@steventhornton4716 I think they are being preserved
@@southwesttransportphotogra554 so glad they are being saved
Weardale Shed. Not disused. Carriages stored for later restoration. I am sure you could have got permission to enter if you had contacted the Weardale Railway.
E3507 is not listed on my register of existing Mk1 & 2 Carriages so now added for future observation.
Fascinating to see but sad these have been left to decay considering there is many train fans out there. Thank you for the tour.
It is such a shame, your welcome
CARRIAGES ON THEIR OWN, put them together to make a train, there's also a 20ton guards van there (my old workplace, I was a Tinsley guard).
Yeah I would like to see more as I’m a rail fan (fan of trains)
At 7:50 he says "a brakevan was added to the end of a train as the cars did not have brakes." I knew British Rail did things on the cheap, but not that cheap!. There's not much friction between steel wheels and steel rails - so all trains have brakes on every car/wagon/carriage. Typically they are operated by the release of vacuum in a hose continuous throughout the length of the train.
Great to see something a bit different. Look forward to the next video!
Happy you enjoyed it, thank you
I cannot understand what vandals get out of ruining places and totally trashing them? Not either of you though.The maroon and cream carriage reminded me of when I was a student in Glasgow a very, very long time ago. When I went home to Oban at the end of term, the train that I was on, had to travel at some speed, till it got to Craigendoran outside Helensburgh, as the blue electric trains used the same track, and were close behind us, and went to Helensburgh Lower station! One of my friends had her suitcase from the rack above, fall and wallop her on the head! "Those were the days", and it was lovely to see the old carriages. I love your videos, as they often stir my memories. ........old Tich.
Was the short vehicle they called an engine in the text in reality is a brake van.?...the wheel is for a manual brake which old time guards applied on non-braked goods trains.
Apart from the 'Americanisms' creeping into the English language, was a very interesting video. To be honest they didn't seem that old to me, but I'm one that went to school on a steam train in the late 1950's early 1960's.
Guys, as always an amazing video thank you and stay safe.
Thanks for the support
Brilliant love this find
I would love to see more abandoned machinery graveyards, whether it's planes, trains, ships or automobiles. There's just something special about seeing these steel monsters who will never run again. If the locations are too small maybe make a compilation episode. Thank you very much!
At 7:38 the carriage/coach you're in is DBSO 9711 which is in Anglia Railways livery was retired from service in December 2006. It was moved to Crewe in Jan 2023.
Great video of stuff most of us would like see, keep it up guys, especially the industrial sites which I find really intriguing. More vehicle/machinery graveyards ? Yes please 👍
Fantastic find. I have just gotten into the world of urbex here in Spain. Awesome video.
more abandoned machinery graveyards, if it's planes, trains, ships or automobiles. just something special about them and control rooms
quite the place that one yet soon to fall down by the looks of the gantry supports
Thanks for this great explore I loved it 100%👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
No problem, thankful that you liked it
Yes I would like to see more vehicle graveyard because they are basically vehicles stuck in time
An interesting video, but as a request, can you please get the terminology right?
I am hoping heritage railways are interested in this rolling stock.
This is an active heritage railway, these individuals were trespassing on the site.
@SamsTrainsIsRacist you've got a point
@SamsTrainsIsRacist yes it proves a point
there mainly British rail mk 3 ( mk 2 dbso basicly a dbso means you can control the locomotive at the front) and mk 1 coaches if you were wondering
They are not abandoned neither is the shed. This is a heritage railway and like all heritage railways is closed ATM due to government restrictions. This is a secure site with big fences and security measures. Its a live railway site. This is trespass.
Yes 9711 has not been there for that long, it was seen in open air in November 2018 at Crewe Heritage, as someone else has mentioned
The white wheel at 8:23 is a parking brake to keep the train from moving while stabled on a siding, especially where the siding is on a gradient.
06.04 These are 1970s rolling stock. In the late 1970s I did something like 12,000 miles a year using carriages like this. Look at the space with a table at every window and compare it with the trains of today with airplane type seating. I could well have stood at that buffet bar. Thanks for showing.
This is a Heritage Railway depot and technically you are trespassing , it's not abandoned and now you've possibly opened up the place to vandalism .
Better than it being left to rack and ruin though. This way we have all got to take a look at it instead of just a few hoarders. And thankyou, now a few more of us can go take a look as we know where it is with a bit of research on the internet. Just found it myself using the internet.
@@waynesmith4612 Hoarders? You of course know how much attention these need to become serviceable for Main Line use? It isn't hoarding. A train tends to have many pieces of rolling stock. They need many items, especially different types. If you want to see them, go to the Heritage Railways, and pay to see them, which helps the restorations costs to be covered. The DBSO means less run arounds, and no need for loops, and a propelling return journey, with a suitable equipped loco. Bums on seats pays for us all to see them. Private storage should be respected.
@@MAPFWH Yes but right now no-one is seeing them except a select few, not only that if you watch the vlog you will see they are just going to further rack and ruin. Sorry i have seen this to many times, things going to be restored by people who just have no idea or the funds to complete the task.
But in fairness to all, yes some preservation groups do a fine job as i'm sure we both know, but i have to ask you in all honesty judging by this vlog this doesn't seem to be the case does it? Lets hope this vlog kick starts the restoration because as i said this place is really easy to find using the internet. Lets hope they get restored before the wrong type of explorers find them. Personally i'm glad these have been brought to light and i do genuinely hope they get fully restored to their former glory, that im certain we can both agree on.
@@waynesmith4612 We're in a Pandemic lockdown situation. Maybe the last twelve months or so have meant that work stopped.
@@MAPFWH By the looks of them coaches work stopped on them long before covid started, judging by their state sometime around the time of the black death.
The modern train sets here in the UK which are designed and made by international manufacturers, although assembled in the UK, are based on a so-called international aesthetic standard. In terms of the design requirement or the demand, the train companies nowadays are seeking for efficient most, then safety under the supervision of the government. The sitting comfort has been put on a less priority position. Sadly, even we think the old style interior is stunning and vivid, they're probably regarded as unpractical by train operators. It is little possible to see them running on the track again for a regular service while heritage expo services could be possible.
This was one of the best abandoned videos I have watched in a long time. Good photography and editing. Thanks for sharing. I will watch more.
Ex Foundry this building was used to load castings onto rail cars and not originally a rail repair depot these are awaiting restoration . They form part of a heritage rail line now if you'd looked through the windows and doors you would have seen the shunting line and all the other paraphernalia of the heritage line
Disliked not because they filmed it, but it's opened up to vandals and arsonists, as many have said, coaches and loco stored due to covid lockdown. And some more vulnerable coaches stored away from weather for protection. And most in service condition awaiting reopening of heritage runs and revenue to restore coaches waiting repair.
.... in the guard / Break Van it was nice to see that Nobody had stolen the Track Circute Clips hanging on the back shelf
there owned by crewe heritage centre . but yes more trains planes truck and bus grave yards pleaseeeee
They're owned ..😉
Sad to see lovely items left to decay, I hope one day they will have a new life on a railway somewhere. Camborne central....
Why can't people like this stay out of places they aren't meant to be. No respect for anyone or anything.
Did you watch the same video as me ? Because they entered had a look around with the upmost respect and left.
@@s.a.m_e.v.a.n.s I think you've missed my point. They entered private property when they had no business to be there, splashed it on u tube thus revealing the location through other peoples comments, leaving the place open to vandalism by less scrupulous individuals. My point was, people should stay out of places they shouldn't be, ie, have the respect to do so.
Its not a railway maintenance depot. It was a gun barrel shed where they made the huge guns for the royal navys battleships in the dreadnought arms race. Its now owned by a heritage railway who have repurposed it.
The British Railways mk1 carriage was the basis for the class 305 which ran from Liverpool Street to Enfield Town, Chingford, Cambridge, Bishops Stortford & Hertford until 1987. The trains were a great ride with comfortable seats that surpass the Class 315 which ran on the Southbury line until recently with the London Overground running newer trains & the Class 317 which still runs on the Lea Valley line alongside ex-Stanstead Express Class 379 while the Stanstead Express is running with Class 745 trains.
Would love to see more vehicle graveyards. Love all that stuff
It appears to be the old Gun works in Weardale It’s part of the Auckland project that took the. Line over recently
The small brown one is actually a brake van what the American term a caboose for those in the states and was used on goods trains for the guard you would typically find a stove vacuum/air brake and the big wheel you commented the driver using is the hand brake which was mainly used fur taking up slack in the coupling chains when slowing down to stop wagons bouncing back and forth and damaging the stock and the good contained within
This site is not abandoned. Accessing it without permission is trespass.
@@seansco1 it’s Durham England mate it’s trespassing
Great explore. This isn’t abandoned. Maybe take a little research before posting
Great video. Love how the microwave oven is labeled "Menumaster".
Amazing views of that train shed
Love the mushrooms/fungus growing on the walls of the carriage. Doesn't look abandoned at all!
This is amazing - Thank you for sharing - I like the Brake Van - interesting - it is like that Time had stood still!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂
The seat head over ( napkins) are called Antimacassar. It's to stop hair oil from staining the seat rest. Great job 👌
Do you not remember the slam door trains when they all had 1st class on the windows? I use to ride these to school every day it wasnt that long ago
Brilliant,keep up the good work.
Thank you
Let hope they get restored
Not abandoned - vehicles are stored. Important not to trespass here.
I am ex BR and so easily could report this trespassing....
@@johnmasters504 what's being ex BR got to do with reporting trespassing? Literally anyone could "easily" do that.