What to say to Jehovah's Witnesses
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- In this video I offer seven suggestions for thought-provoking, respectful dialogue with Jehovah's Witnesses.
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I said to a lady who came to my door with an elder have you all ways been a witness she said no i was methodist until 5 years ago so i said why should i trust an apostate you could be a catholic next month , the look i got was priceless
Love it. 😂
Very good. I pointed out to my ex husband who is still a believer about the CSA and over-ups and lies and that he buries his head in the sand. But got nowhere. He was a college lecturer so I remarked that I thought he was intelligent so shut does he allow the JW’s to control him and why can’t he use his mind to do some research? I wonder and hope I gave him something to think about, having “ sewed some seeds”!
Great Question!
Appreciate you stressing the respectful approach.
Understand what you say but I simply can’t respect their beliefs. Their track record on SA alone is abhorrent
Yes to find common ground and be personally respectful is a base level for conversation. It doesnt mean you respect the organization
Excellent points. The best tool to make JWs think is to ask questions. If they think you are trying to "teach" something they will immediately shut down. To Lloyd's point...having these conversations isn't about YOU and your ego winning the argument, it's about THEM and helping them think honestly and objectivity about their religion.
These are pure genius. How great would it be for those of us who found a way out of this destructive cult to actually plant a seed that results in another person finding their way out because of two things - a thought provoking question and our kindness. Thank you for all you do for us, Lloyd ❤️
Me: "What if I decide voluntarily later that I wish to leave your religion, are there repercussions?" Thanks Lloyd for this timely video.
If they have children, you could pose 'if I have children who decide it's not for them, would that be a problem?'
@@ozzyd971 Exactly 💯
My husband and I just stopped going and later moved homes. That was about 28 years ago. No one bothered me for quite some years. Never been disfellowshipped even though we left due to seeing it was just another cult. I'm now agnostic or atheist.
@@ozzyd971Thing is they seldom admit to the truth about shunning
Youre fortunate. And a bit sneaky haha
The man at the door who changed my mindset and started my path to freedom never knew how effective his conversation was. I defended my position but I am forever grateful to him for cracking my shell.
Do you still know where it was?
Who was the man at the door?!?
An elder came to my home some weeks ago, and invited me to a meeting with the elders's body. So I decided to go after been thinking it a Lot, I don't know, maybe curiousity. They were polite, they asked me about My prívate life, never asked about My feelings. I realized that is the same product than 14 years, in a diferent box. I'm ex ministerial servant. Thanks Lloyd For your work!
What fantastic ideas. Not confrontational, thought provoking !
When Lloyd Evans shows up at your door, "Come in!". When a JW is at your door, "GTFO!" Lloyd brings happiness wherever he goes; the JW's - whenever they go!
Lloyd, its good to hear and see you again. Thank you for this. I agree, respect is needed. They are just doing as directed. My husband said he would ask whats the deal with the beard change. 😊
I have been following you for years. It is good to see you are getting back your Mojo
I politely told them I'm an atheist and they got the message. Simple as that. They were very nice about it. Australia.
Good for you! Concise. Polite. Goal oriented.
Here are some carefully crafted questions designed to gently challenge Jehovah's Witnesses and encourage them to think critically about their beliefs. These questions are respectful and intended to promote thoughtful dialogue rather than confrontation:
### Questions About Beliefs and Teachings
1. **Questioning Beliefs**:
- "If I were to question my beliefs and research them thoroughly, would that be a good thing in your opinion? Why or why not?"
- Follow-up: "Shouldn't we all scrutinize our beliefs to ensure they are true?"
2. **Research and Information**:
- "If I wanted to learn more about your religion, should I look at only the official website or also independent sources? Why is that?"
- Follow-up: "Is it wise to rely solely on information provided by the organization being investigated?"
3. **History and Prophecies**:
- "Has your organization ever made predictions about the end of the world or significant events that did not come true? How does your faith account for these?"
- Follow-up: "How does Deuteronomy 18:20-22, which describes identifying false prophets, relate to these failed predictions?"
4. **Exclusive Truth Claims**:
- "Do you believe that Jehovah's Witnesses are the only true followers of God? What evidence supports this belief?"
- Follow-up: "How can one verify that claim objectively?"
### Questions About Doctrine and Practice
5. **Salvation and Goodness**:
- "Is being a good person enough to survive Armageddon, or must one also be a baptized Jehovah's Witness? Why is that?"
- Follow-up: "How do you reconcile the idea of a loving God with the belief that only Jehovah's Witnesses will be saved?"
6. **Living in the Last Days**:
- "What evidence do you have that we are living in the last days as described in the Bible?"
- Follow-up: "Do you think life now is objectively worse than it was 100 years ago, considering advancements in medicine, technology, and human rights?"
### Questions About Organizational Claims
7. **Authority and Changes**:
- "Jehovah's Witnesses have made doctrinal changes over the years. How do you reconcile these changes with the belief that the organization is directed by God?"
- Follow-up: "If God's guidance is perfect, why would there be a need for such changes?"
8. **Communication with God**:
- "When did Jehovah's Witnesses start being recognized as God's channel of communication, and what evidence supports this specific timing?"
- Follow-up: "Can you provide any historical or scriptural evidence that clearly shows this transition?"
### Questions About Personal Reflection
9. **Personal Doubts**:
- "Have you ever had any doubts about your beliefs or teachings? How did you address them?"
- Follow-up: "Do you think it's healthy to have doubts and seek answers, even if it leads to questioning the faith itself?"
10. **Outside Perspectives**:
- "How do you feel about listening to the perspectives of former Jehovah's Witnesses who have left the organization? Why do you think they left?"
- Follow-up: "Is there value in understanding why people leave the faith and what their experiences were?"
### Respect and Openness
It's important to remember that these questions should be asked in a spirit of genuine curiosity and respect. Jehovah's Witnesses are often very sincere in their beliefs, and respectful dialogue is more likely to encourage thoughtful reflection than confrontational debate.
Would you like more detailed explanations on any of these questions, or do you have other topics you'd like to explore?
Absolutely love this. I am taking a screenshot of all of these.
Thorough list.🎉
"I know you've had many failed end time dates. What is your current date?"
Nice to see you back
I had JWs come to my door about 10 years ago. They had a really nice brochure that they wanted to leave with me that told me about the nice Paradise that God promised humankind after Armageddon. I asked the brother if there would be any large polluting factories in this new Paradise. He firmly stated that God would do away with all the large polluting factories. I then looked at the picture of Paradise and asked the brother where all the plastic lawn furniture in the picture had come from. I had never seen a JW's brain plummet toward the ground and explode into flames before that point. He left my property absolutely frustrated in defeat.
That's easy. It came with the nice house that they just took over after the owners were fireballed. That used to be a game we'd play while going door-to-door, we'd lay claim to all of the nice houses we intended on taking.
@@Eric_01 Well yeah, but they're not gonna tell the householder "all your stuff are belong to us after armageddon"
There were several days when my mom came home from the ministry recounting interactions that had shaken her, and that stayed with her.
It still took her close to a decade to leave after the first wake-up interactions, but when she did leave, she was done for good- the elders couldn't get her to answer the phone or open the door if they tried all day or night.
I heard 'entering into a discussion with Jehovah's Witnesses' as "something that sounded like a good idea at the time"!
I'm a disfellowshipped apostate works well
:/
That's a guaranteed coronary inducer
This presentation is so compassionate and well thought out. You are an excellent teacher, Lloyd!!
For a while I was sad you stopped for various reasons generating a flood of vids reacting to each move of JWorg. Since than, I see you vids, even fewer, are still growing in quality on the matter. Thank you Lloyd.
Very important and valuable material. Thanks Lloyd!
You make my day just showing up... I published my story after leaving which includes tips for witnessing to the witnesses. Amazing job, you did!
I teach their kids, I work in education. I became aquaintences. They've had me over for dinner + I've talked to them a lot about the Bible (I'm a Christian). So I just try to show love + patience and sow seeds of inquiry
got to the point where you said all JW will survive Armageddon but not other Christians. Well they told their kids I would survive! 👀
Sadly, they think they have you on a hook. That's the ONLY reason you're allowed in their house.
@@Eric_01 This is the sad truth. They use those opportunities to lure you into the religion. It's dishonest.
@@Eric_01 I can't control how they think but I can control myself thank you very much
@@poon I enjoy their company and I can show them that not all Christians are evil. Clearly we have developed trust enough with me teaching their children that we have some camaraderie and regardless of their motivations, I also have my own motivations and they're not nefarious but these Jehovah witnesses are not stronger spiritually than me
A timely and informed video for me. Thank you, sir.
very powerful smart and empathetic
One time I saw witnesses with carts. I passed by smiling at them and one 'sister' offered me a watchtower publication. I took it and we had a conversation. I shosed her a picture of the elders book and asked her if she could sell me that book. She said she never saw that book before. Next to her was a man. I don't know if he was an elder. He was irritated and told me that this book was not for the public. Some weeks later I saw the same 'sister' with two other women. I told her, That meanwhile I got that book online, as pdf and showed her a page of it on my screen.
She looked at it. There was mentioned comittee and I asked her what that is all about. Then she admitted to me, that this book was just for elders and other persons are not supposed to read it... but she said it in a und and polite way. I told her that I find it very interesting and will read it anyway.
Such good points/suggestions you make regarding what sort of questions to ask to "sow seeds" Lloyd. Thank you 😊
Hi Mr. Loyd and everyone,I hope you are all doing great.Thank you Loyd for the nice job of educating us and your hard work, be blessed.
Can they think logically? No... Good points made, Lloyd. I'll look forward to using some of these points.
Also, so decent of you to ask to be respectful of them. I have a hard time because I know that my ex, for one is pompous. I think a lot of them are and I will remember how you stressed to be respectful. I really have to work on that. You're an intelligent man ❤️
I wish I had watch this great video before my teacher, a JW elder, shunned me while I was a sincere non baptized JW student with bible reading privilegy at the platform, so that I could have make these specific questions to him when they (an old couple with some decades as JWs) were open to random questions at the end of our weekly study.
I was a JW student for a bit more than 3 years until I decided to stop attending all meetings, and to block at WhatsApp all JW contacts at once. I took this decision firmly at New Year's Eve 2022.
Greetings from Ecuador Lloyd!
I've taken notes on all your suggestions, they were brilliant. Now I know what to say when confronted with a Jehovah Witness. ❤
Since collecting older WT publications off of eBay, etc, I love showing JWs things directly from them such as the May15-1984 Watchtower cover or the pyramid diagrams in Divine Plan of the Ages, or the Beth-Sarim and Millions Now Living…, the pre ‘75 stuff, etc. Some will obstinately try to defend or deflect, but it’s the seed of getting them to think. 💥💡Neu Light 💡💥
I love that approach!! It worked on me, so I also purchased some Russell/Rutherford books to show to JWs ❤ 😊
Best and most useful video I've seen in a good while. Thank you
A few years ago I spoke with my father an elder of some 35+ years about why I no longer believe. Among many things discussed one was the long string of failed predictions and prophecies. He admitted these were true and knew of a few. I asked him what does the bible say about those that make prophecies in gods name and those prophecies don't come true. He said he didn't know. I asked him to use his app on his own phone and look up Duet 18:20-22. He wouldn't do it. I said, you can use your bible on your phone and read what god says about false prophets, he would not do it. Imagine that, an elder not willing to look up a scripture in his own bible on his own phone. He later told me that the organization has never claimed to be a prophet. I said, that may be true but what do you call someone who is not a prophet and still makes prophecies that ultimately don't come true? That was over 3 years ago and I'm still waiting for a response on that one.
They did call themselves prophets!! Watchtower April 1, 1972: in the article ‘They shall know, that a prophet was among them’ the group of International Bible Students, later Jehovah’s Witnesses, are identified as “The Prophet”.
Rutherford called Charles Taze Russel “one of God’s great reformers and prophets.” (Watchtower Oct.1, 1919)
@@madamecurious I found out about these articles after my conversation with my dad. It doesnt matter though because they know that anyone that is not a claim to be a prophet and still makes prophecies are still a false prophet.
I actually had some come to my house last week, on a Thursday morning , which I found odd . I am so educated on this cult now, had I not been working , I wanted to bad to answer the door and warn them . I know they would have become frightened and run off quickly . 😕 I just feel so bad for them . Thanks for another video Lloyd ❤
"A great crowd, which no man was able to number", always came to mind when hearing about their number of members.
A wonderful video Lloyd, certainly one of your best.
Your suggestions, insights and thoughtfulness are much appreciated.
This is GOLD!! ...some of your best content right here! I often come across them doing 'cart work' and am always impelled to go 'have a chat'... but on giving that a moments thought, I usually don't under the burden of knowing it's futility. These are great ideas to facilitate engagement & sow the first seeds of doubt... or potentially water existing ones!
I believe this presentation is one of you best. Lots of food for thought in this. Really good thought provoking questions. I hope I can remember all of this for when they come knocking the next time. I always ask them why they continue to adhere to a religion that has a long history of proven false prophecies and refuse to follow the biblical teaching on false prophecies. They never give an answer but just quickly leave.
Very well structured Lloyd, I couldn't help my grin escalating into soft laughter because I'm thinking that you were schooled very well by them😂😂. That prep before field service.
I don't mean the latter in an offensive way because I happen to be in tge same boat as you when I use the scripture interpretation in reverse to my JW family members. I'm just happy I never got to baptism, otherwise I would not have been allowed to exchange scripture interpretation with them.
😂😂 About two year's ago I was told jokingly by one of my cousin's "I think we must shun you anyway since you know more about the truth then most". Fortunately the shunning rule has changed.
Sometimes I can't help to think that because we humans are so complex that some churches and cult'ures befit our psychological profiles.
Tell you why; if you allow vengeance to grow in your heart but don't have the stomach to repay evil with evil you keep hopping for the day that your god would do the repayment.
Sorry I have so much on my mind and I jump from topic to topic on everything JW.
excellent. recently two sisters asked me if id go back,i said no its a cult ,the watchtower..and im what youd call an apostate. the sister said i never thought id ever hear you say that ,i said i really care about all you bro and sis but ive studied done research,,ill never come back...
I can't wait your next video!😊
love from Japan❤
Thank you Lloyd. This is some quality advice that can help exJW's and JW's. I still prefer you over other youtubers even though you have less content. What I like is that you have are concise and you do not ramble on about irrelavent stuff. You don't waste time, the most precious thing we have.
Great video Loyd, found in the past that family jw members will tell white lies to me and when held to the point would try to brush it off with we are all imperfect and like you stated squirm or maneuver away from the point I was making. Then go into "I'll punish you mode" by a soft shunning or stewing angrily. But great video with awesome advice.
Good advice and ideas, Lloyd. I am happy that I asked the congregation secretary to put me down as a do not call and to never be contacted again by JW's. I am enjoying the silence 🤭
Great video, good to see your back at it. And good food for thought.
* If the Bible is the inspired word of God, why does your organization change its interpretation so often?
* Why does the Watchtower discourage independent research and critical thinking about your doctrines?
* How can you be sure that your organization is the only true religion when there are so many other sincere believers in the world?
* Why did Jesus say that he didn't know the time of the end, yet your organization has repeatedly predicted it?
* If salvation is only through your organization, what happens to all the good people who lived and died before the Watchtower was founded?
I was talking to my sister about this subject last week and she told me that she says “well, my mother is a jw and she’s never been able to recruit me so I doubt you’ll be able to!” I thought it was genius.
I get my daughter to answer the door when they call as I know I would just lay into them > I was dragged up in this vile cult as a child and I still hold it against them now and I’m 52 years old! They took away my childhood. I’ve had therapy and I still have anger about this cult and my jw believing mother
Me, too, and I'm 58!
I’m so sorry! I have JW family members, and I just try to keep in mind that they were duped and not to hold anything against them.
@@karenwestberg5838 I totally understand but my mother isn’t a good person and hides behind this so called religion, Christian she is not!
Fantastic Reasoning Lloyd
Thank you for all your work
If i think of any lines of reasoning ill let you know
So pleased to see Lloyd back in action . I have been wondering how best to approach JWs , I do tend to lose it a bit when we touch on the topic of curation/ evolution. The calm non confrontational way is obviously a good approach. The JWs that have stands on street corners tend not to like entering into a dialogue , they are just standing around chatting and seem to slightly resent being disturbed! They just refer you to ‘the website’ or just state if you don’t want to listen to us just go away. The ones that know on your door can’t use that approach.
Fantastic video once again, Lloyd!! Definitely the best compilation of rationales for a polite but questioning dialogue. And those are usable also outside the JW realm.
Excellent video! Thank you, Lloyd!
After the ARC the WT put it in print. The Feb 2017 study edition ‘Who is leading god’s people today?’ Par 12. Its a nice recent reference to offer them at the door.
These are brilliant! 😊
Hello Lloyd,
I thought of an additional question that could be included in the 1st scenario to plant additional seeds.
That question is, "If I am forced to lie on behalf of my religion, would that be a sign of my religion not being true?" or something like that.
Basically, the thrust of this question is to plant the seed that having to lie for the organization does not lend itself to being a "true" religion.
Where I live, it has always been 1 year for the Do Not Call List--and then the elders go round and check again.
That seems worthless, I don't think I ever had JW visit two years in a row, I never took notes of when they visit but I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the area of every 5 years for JW and about 20 years for Mormons. I think I would be less polite if it was more frequent, well me in the past before learning the consequences they'll suffer if they don't obey their cult leaders.
Where I live I haven't seen at Jehovah Witness been over 3 years
I was the territory assistant for many years and no one ever requested the DNC list to do visits 😂
@@berniereay4055 perhaps because of Covid?
@@jason.B182 lucky you! In our hall the elders absolutely called at the house on the DNC list, saying perhaps they had moved or they had a change of heart. And as an exJW, I have myself (in an area I was not known by them), told them to Not Call Back, and I was told they put me on a list that was good for a year, at which point they would return to see if I still felt the same way. They are freaking zombies for Watchtower.
Say to any JW if you can give me a reasonable explanation for the JW two witnesses rule then I’ll study with you! Watch their body language close down as they can’t find an answer to your question and you wave goodbye!
They seem to have forgotten that under the Mosaic Law rape did not require two witnesses.
Yeah, they're just going to throw Deut. 19:15 at it. That it's old testament doesn't matter, just like it doesn't with nearly all xtian beliefs. So, I guess you're gonna study with them.
@@Eric_01 JWs can say what they like but a lot of their doctrine is based on the old testament. Holidays, birthdays, 1914, times of the gentiles, etc, etc
Cult? Who was the first witness? REVELATION 1:5; 3:14 COLOSSIANS 1:18
@@ascotinva The birthday and holidays doctrines are made up though. Not biblical. They got 1914 wrong and retracted their original prophecy. It's not a good record.
Amazing how you use the power of empathy and compassion to truly reach out to someone stuck in a high control group. I will take your advice and engage in a conversation with my JW in-laws. Many Thanks 🙏
Good discussion, but my question is what is a good person, because we all have good and bad in us, we all sin and fall short of the glory of God, so there is no totally good person, so is not just about being a good person, it's about believing and having faith in Christ, believing Christ walked the earth, and died for our sins, which means loving God, and your neighbors as yourself, but not about being in a organization, I'm in no organization, but still believe in the father, son, and holy Spirit.
I would ask them why they call themselves Jehovahs Witnesses. They should cite Isaiah 43 v 10. I would ask them to show me. If they do I would ask when this was written and why they think it was addressed to them. There are a number of follow up questions I would ask, depending on their response.
Where do you expect that to lead?
Great questions!!!
Absolutely brilliant video. Lloyd. One of your best ever!
My recent reply to JWs at my door saying they wanted to “share the love of God with me” was, politely, “I respect you as individuals, but I have no respect at all for any religion. I was in it for decades but now I’m done with it.” They gave me a polite farewell and went on their way. I do see them as victims, so I don’t want to treat them as adversaries.
I say goodbye and close the door.
Possibly your best video to date, Lloyd. So so so profound.
Great suggestions! I especially like the one about whether JWs might think Catholics have the right to question their religion while JWs are not ‘allowed’ to question their religion. Good point! I like the way you
advised showing JWs respect. It’s not their fault that they got lured into and duped by the Watchtower’
Duped, deluded, indoctrinated, groomed, and conditioned by the insidious, devious, callous Watchtower organization!
The last time I spoke with a JW I asked her why Caleb from the Caleb and Sophia cartoon couldn't have the cupcake. She replied that many JW parents allow their children to attend birthday parties. I then asked why the cartoon didn't show that. Why don't we see Caleb attending the birthday parties of his classmates? The JW lady didn't like that question at all.
Great topics and questions to ask and talk about. Well done!
very good points....thanks for this video 🙂
Very Clever Lloyd, I'm Definately Gonna use this tactic.
Thank you great advice ❤
I’m going to ask my daughter if she thinks that I deserve to die when “Armageddon” happens even though i didn’t change my lifestyle or moral behavior since i left the cult. Good one Lloyd !!
THIS was a really GREAT video. I would so very much like to hear more teaching like this - it's invaluable. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Got invited to the convention by a friend and didn’t really know how to decline so I said I would check my calendar.
Thanks Lloyd.
😂😂 This gives me an idea Mr. Evans if by some chance the EXJW meetup is scheduled for this weekend and I see a cart, I'll try the "let me Google your religion".
Of course I'll be out of my area (still pimo and others in my local area are acquainted with me). It would be interesting to see how they react.
Keep them coming,Miss your rebuttals,theres many good rebuttal info, broadcast and jesus movie id like to hear your thoughts
Hey, Lloyd, I liked these questions and they would certainly plant that seed, it seems to me, if the person is already in the org. A friend at work that uses Uber has said that her Uber driver won't shut up about how great being a JW is...while simultaneously offering her edibles, if you know what I mean. It turns out the Uber driver isn't baptized yet, but is just studying. She's completely eaten up with it, and has made statements about certain things she enjoys now, knowing she's about to have to give them up.
Anyway, my suggestion or question is what a good line of questioning would be to plant that seed in a person that isn't fully committed yet, but seriously contemplating it.
Also with grace and tact, take opportunity to ask a child simple questions when they come knocking on your door with their JW parent. I’ll never forget when a lady randomly asked me “Why wouldn’t you want to celebrate your birthday?” And in my mind, as a little 10 year old I was about to tell her “Well you need to look at the origins of things” but instead I thought how stupid that response was and told her nothing and kept silent! 😆 Am grateful for that lady.
In the late '90s on a Sat morning I was still in my underwear and heard what I thought was my wife (she was gardening) knocking on the door. It was two JW women who took one look at me and hurried away. I found the solution 😅
Very good points Lloyd will help some maybe wake up.
I remember when a relative invited me to a meeting for the 10th time and we got into a little bit of a row about it I said "I guess Jehovah will just have to kill me in armageddon! You are okay with that?" She didn't really know what to say! We've never argued about it again.
Brilliantly put Lloyd.
Should have had these questions written on the screen each time you say them. Maybe make a short for it, which can easily be "summoned for help" anywhere at anytime?
Thanks again, Lloyd for a perfectly presented teaching tool. I've been out for 7 years after being in for 37, (but PIMO for quite awhile before the exit). . Anyway, adding to the idea thread you suggested, I've wanted to engage with a witness about a question perhaps already used, and that's to ask them, what happens when a person dies? Maybe not the easiest subject to broach without ending in the "painted into a corner" moment, but they hold an incredibly firm belief that we are out of existence at death, (which I completely agree with) and await the resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous. The ultimate goal being how to show them then, that when a person dies, a resurrection for that person is completely irrelevant . .They'd never know it if they didn't get one. . .
Really enjoyed this episode and would love some further suggestions in the same vein. Thank you 🙏
Love this.
I’m subscribed to your channel for a few years and I might not have watched even half of your videos, but so far this is your best (in my opinion)! I will definitely use it in conversations with my parents and if they end up leaving the JW cult, then the purpose has been achieved no matter how long it takes. For me that would mean the world ❤️ I guess I became annoying by mentioning in most of my comments that me and my siblings are trying so hard to “wake our parents up” and it just doesn’t happen 😢
Make them think and show them love❤
I know you! We were friends as teens. You’re looking well mate.
@22:03 my mom will right out make up crazy stuff on the fly just to make herself sound right. One time i said well let’s not go past the scriptures and she got agitated.
Thanks Lloyd, I might try some of these when I find a couple of witnesses standing by their carts somewhere
I love the perspective. These are victims. Aspire to make them think.
When I was in high school, I had a conversation the soon to be valedictorian, who was the sort who read textbooks for fun, and would challenge teachers on certain points, pointing out if they stated something as "fact" that is opinion.
We knew of each other, and I was known as the straight-laced-glad-handing-christian-boy. He had seen me give a lecture in english class trying to assert that god is "a reasonable" option compared to evolution. And tried to pull me into firey debate, which the teacher didn't squash, but pushed back on his harshness.
On one day towards the end of school, we were alone in a lightbox room in art class, and he asked me a question about my belief. I started to explain, and he listened. Then he asked "Okay, but why?" and in one way or another, kept asking that, over and over. Until I simply didn't have an answer.
It didn't wake me up then, but it sure stayed with me.
"Why do you believe that" is one of the best questions you can ask a cult believer, because usually it's for bad or nonexistent reasons.
@@LloydEvans The best bit was when I responded after a particular long pause with "Well... because that's what the bible really says-" and he immediately responded with. "But- why do you trust the bible" - deftly acknowledging both the circular reasoning, but also pointing to the fact that there really truly is no reason. None whatsoever.
There is a great video on yt by an education youtuber called "The Rules For Rulers" where he breaks down in simplest terms, how all human power systems work. Understanding that really showed me how EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of the creation of scripture (the book)... why Jesus would have been killed... why the papacy came out of it... why Constantine took control of it... why Abraham "would have" started it; the power to control a 10-tribe patriarchal nation with him at the top... the real reason for a physical "most holy" or "ark"... its all the same story over and over and over and over.
The "why" is the same wafer thin mumbo jumbo then as now, with even more layers of confusion and absurdity. It's an ancient paper mache government - the same as every scam ever told.
You have problems - I've an answer. Just trust me, and do what I say.
I just don’t answer the door… for anyone. I don’t care if it’s JWs, Mormons, sales people, political activists etc. My time and safety is precious to me. Just keep the door locked and ignore everyone, problem solved (Publishers Clearing House is my one exception 😀).
I treat them the way they treat me…I act like they don’t exist. If I’m invisible then so are they.
When I was in crowded Amsterdam, Netherlands in 2022, I saw some street preachers. One was giving a sermon while another handed out what I assume were tracts. People were ignoring them. As I passed, I held my arm out with the palm of my hand open in a "talk to the hand" gesture. That was my first encounter with street evangelism.
Your best video ever.
There are lots of people with deeply held beliefs who are good people. It has always been a mystery to me how they can believe most people are going to Hell and at the same time be happy normal people.
As aways, good to see you, "Brother"😅.