Batter Up: Play Super Nintendo With a Baseball Bat

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • 12 years before the Nintendo Wii took over living rooms, Sports Sciences released Batter-Up, a motion-controlled baseball bat for the Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, and personal computers. The company claimed it was the first "virtual reality baseball bat." Was it a swing-and-a-miss or a home run? Learn how Batter Up works and the history of Sports Sciences.
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  • @GamingHistorian
    @GamingHistorian  Год назад +1261

    Fun fact: I strained my elbow while filming myself swinging this bat. Hope your year is off to a great start!

    • @Drayton226
      @Drayton226 Год назад +8

      Cool

    • @incorporealfear
      @incorporealfear Год назад +19

      The things we do for work ay?

    • @MentalLiberation
      @MentalLiberation Год назад +8

      Feel Better my friend. My year was off to a great start, and then it took a nasty nosedive, with a bunch of inconveniences that really pissed me off. On the plus side though, I did get a lot of great games. Keep up the great work norm and kudos to the upcoming achievement of excellence: 1M subs

    • @JavierFernandez01
      @JavierFernandez01 Год назад +6

      Hahah awesome. Those things were so incredibly cool. I never did get to play with one. I did do the mat for foot race games. :D

    • @Patrick.Howie.
      @Patrick.Howie. Год назад +2

      @@incorporealfear obviously you're not Canadian

  • @DGR_Dave
    @DGR_Dave Год назад +196

    I'm not even joking, I just found one of these YESTERDAY and had never seen one before and had no idea what it was used for! I can't wait to watch now and find out all about it haha!

    • @GamingHistorian
      @GamingHistorian  Год назад +41

      Great timing! You might discover you know TOO much now

    • @beavertom
      @beavertom Год назад +10

      DGR does Troll levels with the batter up bat when?!?

  • @danboy12342
    @danboy12342 Год назад +174

    I love that we go from ahoy or tv level highest quality documentaries an hour long to 20 minutes of plastic niche, love this channel

  • @mrbransformer4184
    @mrbransformer4184 Год назад +360

    This is hands down my favorite gaming show. Period. Thank you for the hard work and the incredibly awesome in-depth looks at everything.

    • @criznittle968
      @criznittle968 Год назад +8

      we're in agreement

    • @GamingHistorian
      @GamingHistorian  Год назад +37

      Thank you very much!

    • @edicionespictorama248
      @edicionespictorama248 Год назад +3

      Same here. I also struggle finding similar content and often find myself watching old videos. Any recommendations?

    • @distractedFreek
      @distractedFreek Год назад +3

      I really enjoy his voice and rhythm, kinda reminds me of the narrator from How it's Made.

    • @henrybierman8431
      @henrybierman8431 Год назад +2

      I think it tops AVGN because this show gets better every episode, but AVGN peaked like ten years ago

  • @EvaFull
    @EvaFull Год назад +54

    That box art SCREAMS, “The ‘90’s!!”
    😂😂😂
    I literally had a flashback to being a teenager in that era & seeing that marketing everywhere whenever I would go shopping at the mall.
    😂😂😂

    • @GamingHistorian
      @GamingHistorian  Год назад +12

      I definitely had flashbacks of my old school binders when I saw the Batter Up boxart

    • @EvaFull
      @EvaFull Год назад +1

      @@GamingHistorian That style art definitely scarred a whole generation of us ‘80’s/‘90’s kids. 😆

    • @KLegyyn
      @KLegyyn Год назад +1

      That box art reminds me of that one kid playing a NARC video game in space screaming: "ASSSSSSSSSSSS!"
      .
      .

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Год назад +2

      Makes me want to wear a Vuarnet hat to go with my leopard print Airwalks, Stussy T-shirt, and acid washed 501's

    • @osurpless
      @osurpless Год назад

      And yet in recent years, Eastern European models have made wondrous use of the fisheye lens throughout their oeuvre…

  • @vinegarfly
    @vinegarfly Год назад +128

    Thank you Gaming historian! Haven't watched this one yet, but your quality and entertainment value is always top notch 👌

  • @nelson-haha89
    @nelson-haha89 Год назад +13

    I swear I played with one of these as a kid. The picture unlocked a memory way deep in my brain.

    • @Marzimus
      @Marzimus Год назад +1

      Memory unlocked!

    • @doomtho42
      @doomtho42 5 месяцев назад

      Same here. As soon as I saw the picture a rush of memories came flooding back to me. Memories that I doubt I’d accessed since soon after they occurred. What a sensation of trippy nostalgia.

  • @PatTheNESpunk
    @PatTheNESpunk Год назад +22

    Great video! I have a "swinging" golf accessory for the NES, that likely uses similar tech to all of this, but mine is broken. You needed to hit a real ball, so it seems that would be for a golfing enthusiast with a net and all. I'd love to test it out.

  • @ToddJambon
    @ToddJambon Год назад +48

    A technology that blew me away as a kid was the Sega hologram in the arcade. I thought that every TV would be like that in the future and that it was the future of gaming displays, as well. I wonder if you could do an episode on that? I know you probably don't have the machine; but I think a lot of video and gameplay footage is out there. I'd like to know why they only ever made two games.

    • @Pendarr
      @Pendarr Год назад +3

      Yes!! I went to an arcade/ice skating rink called TILT when I was a little kid and they had that hologram machine, it absolutely blew my mind! I don’t remember anything about the game or what it was called (an easy google search I’m sure) but I’ll never forget that arcade cabinet and the technology 😊

    • @ToddJambon
      @ToddJambon Год назад +3

      @@Pendarr the nost common game was called Time Traveler.

    • @robwaters8848
      @robwaters8848 Год назад +1

      @@Pendarr Pretty sure it was something like a time traveling cowboy and you do western shootouts.

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat Год назад +3

      It's an illusion. The light from a Sony TV is reflected by a concave mirror, which is what makes it look like the image is floating in space. But it's actually just a TV screen, and it has no more ability to be 3D than any other TV. The footage you see is stored on a Laserdisc.
      We might see something like this again, but the mirror does add a lot of cost and weight to the cabinet, and the design typically only looks good if there is minimal or no background (so the characters appear to float in the air), which is pretty limiting.

    • @ToddJambon
      @ToddJambon Год назад

      @@EebstertheGreat i understand how it works. And im sure we could do much better today

  • @CaptainCat101
    @CaptainCat101 Год назад +12

    I'd totally get that bat to get it autographed by a professional baseball player

  • @Tom_Van_Zandt
    @Tom_Van_Zandt Год назад +3

    This is the 1st Gaming Historian video I've watched in close to 3 years...when the woman's voice comes on at the end and mentions how episodes are funded it's very nostalgic for me. It reminds me of my mom on a Sunday afternoon watching PBS.

  • @JQAlchemist
    @JQAlchemist Год назад +2

    Not gonna lie, that weird 90'd fisheye lens-like art also reminds me of the character art that was used in Road Rash [32-Bit] for the PS1, Saturn, PC, and 3DO

  • @mightymouse9001
    @mightymouse9001 Год назад +3

    You really have the perfect voice for documentaries like this.

  • @MotorBro78
    @MotorBro78 Год назад +8

    I think it’s great Sports Sciences kept at making motion control and infrared peripherals. During that age of gaming it was really ambitious to try to develop that stuff. The consoles and the games were never designed with motion control in mind. That all changed with the Wii. Gotta tip my hat at the effort, good stuff. And a great video, too, Norm!

  • @qubafootbag
    @qubafootbag Год назад +13

    Thank you for one another great episode!! I love when you say "faded into obscurity" this phrase happen to be present on this channel quite often 😁

  • @TheKraig
    @TheKraig Год назад +2

    This seems perfect for an arcade baseball game. Easily repaired/replaced when damaged, offers that short burst of fun and may have benefited from having an arcade game designed for it specifically (better outfield controls). I'm surprised this wasn't also subject to the anti-violent parent brigade which also helped define the 90s. Love the insights and research as always, sir.

  • @Pensfan5919
    @Pensfan5919 Год назад +4

    So, there's a similar thing to this for hockey, but only compatible with one game, as far as I can tell. The plastic Wiimote stick that EA made for their only Wii NHL game (why they didn't port 3-on-3 arcade, I'll never know), NHL Slapshot. It was fun, but my only one broke during a move a few years ago and lost the foam blade at the end.

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall Год назад +33

    It’s always a good day whenever a new Gaming Historian video is released. Keep up the great work Norman!

    • @cmd6939
      @cmd6939 Год назад

      agreed! I'm always hoping to see that blue dot every time I log in to youtube.

  • @Morbos1000
    @Morbos1000 Год назад +2

    It is funny how I have such clear memories of things from the early 90s that they feel like they were yesterday, yet I see things like this and it feels like it is from the ancient times!

  • @Ubritoons96
    @Ubritoons96 Год назад +1

    0:34 Woah, hello new GH office set up. Looks very nice. A good way to start Gaming Historian’s 2023. XD

  • @8ByteBrian
    @8ByteBrian Год назад +4

    I remember a friend in my neighborhood having one of these things. It wasn't terrible, but the bat was so small I always felt like it was going to go flying out the window with every swing. The motion detection wasn't bad, but there was definitely lag. I think after about a week, we were all bored with it.

  • @haydenhiggins3312
    @haydenhiggins3312 Год назад +8

    Your channel is one the best gaming channels I’ve watched. Thanks for making great content.

  • @songoku9348
    @songoku9348 Год назад +5

    Ah, always a blessing when Norman uploads.

  • @DoppelgangerShockwave
    @DoppelgangerShockwave Год назад +1

    I remember that bat. I didn't have many baseball games, so I had passed on it for that reason alone.

  • @IronSwish777
    @IronSwish777 Год назад +1

    Been a fan of your videos since first stumbling upon your Tetris video 5 years or so ago. I truly can’t think of a more likeable RUclipsr; the quality of your videos are professional, well researched, and well worded.
    Then, while watching this video, I noticed the KC on your shirt. Being from KC myself, and experiencing the disappointment that is Royals baseball for each year of my life, save for a couple, it brought a smile to my face hearing you talk about how much you enjoy baseball yourself.
    Keep it up, Norm! Always a pleasure to learn from you.

  • @ryanmichels2981
    @ryanmichels2981 Год назад +9

    Your videos are always SO well done, from content to production quality. When I see a new vid in my subscription feed I’m always excited to see what you have in store for the vid. Keep up the great work!

  • @jmreeves89
    @jmreeves89 Год назад +1

    It's been over a decade. I think it's time (well, maybe this summer when you have more time lol) for a Gaming Historian about Gaming Historian.

  • @WrestlingWithGaming
    @WrestlingWithGaming Год назад +1

    Man, the way it works is so simple that it's kind of ingenious. Great video, Norm!

  • @TanabiGoat
    @TanabiGoat Год назад +9

    I really liked how you analyzed the package art and explained the style being of the era. I remember that art style and I always tremendously hated it, it was always so cringe-worthy. It's like someone say, 'Kids like weird distorted things, let's put that on the box!' It's like fear and loathing in Box Vegas or something :) Anyway, I'm glad that art style is long dead insofar as advertising and packaging goes.

  • @Pyke_
    @Pyke_ Год назад +1

    This is what I call great quality content. There is so many retro gaming channels out there but most of them are just collectors bragging about their gaming collections. Here we have a lot of research, information and good editing.

  • @ElricSowrd
    @ElricSowrd Год назад +3

    I remember seeing this peripheral on Magazines in the late 90's.

  • @TBustah
    @TBustah Год назад +3

    My family had the Genesis version. It worked alright, but as you said, baserunning was awkward. We mostly just used it for home run derbies. In retrospect, they probably should’ve put a controller port on it so that you could use a normal pad for baserunning, pitching, and fielding without having to switch controllers.

  • @matthewj1677
    @matthewj1677 Год назад +1

    My dad was a 8 year old and played baseball and video games, (he has all the nintendo consoles In the living room) but when I showed him this video, he had never heard the batter up bat. Shocking!

  • @lai5115
    @lai5115 Год назад +1

    When the Gaming Historian uploads, it's a good day.

  • @Ratralsis
    @Ratralsis Год назад

    Man, Norm. I gotta say. Bold of you to put the best part of the video (you getting a home run and giving the camera a happy thumbs up) so early in the video. It paid off, but still. Very bold.

  • @hwogrillo
    @hwogrillo Год назад +1

    It's nice to still have a youtuber who makes quality content and hasn't gone all in with spamming my sub box with shorts I'm never gonna click on or livestreams I'm never gonna watch. Thank you for that.

  • @Drayton226
    @Drayton226 Год назад +5

    Gaming historian I never know when you were going to do a video but I know they're going to be wonderful thank you so much

  • @benjaminbernal4729
    @benjaminbernal4729 Год назад +1

    Norman is trying not to laugh while swinging that bat

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 Год назад +7

    After seeing what people were doing while Wii Bowling...I can't possibly see anything going wrong with this...BATTER UP! 👀

  • @Marc_Araujo
    @Marc_Araujo Год назад +13

    Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run is a criminally underrated baseball game for the SNES...shit was dope!!

    • @amazingeric97
      @amazingeric97 Год назад +1

      I actually liked to first Ken Griffey Jr baseball game better. The second game was just too different.

  • @lukestarkiller441
    @lukestarkiller441 Год назад +3

    Another great, informative video, Norm.
    A shame how so many of these motion control peripherals failed just because the technoght wasn't there yet, and what they did have, ended up being too expensive to market.

  • @AltimaNEO
    @AltimaNEO Год назад

    Haha, Im glad you pointed out the box art. It was the first thing I noticed and it gave me that heavy 90s advertisement nostalgia.

  • @spookerredmenace3950
    @spookerredmenace3950 Год назад +1

    ah the 90s the decade of early promises of things we use now, but many failed and died but then were reborn and perfected

  • @juha2031
    @juha2031 Год назад +2

    Gonna watch this tomorrow with a cup of coffee.

  • @BetoSmith89
    @BetoSmith89 Год назад +2

    He is back! I already finished almost all of your videos while waiting for a new one. Keep it coming please! I enjoy watching your content while I’m having lunch or dinner.

  • @dwood78part23
    @dwood78part23 Год назад +3

    I don't remember the baseball controller for the Super NES, so this is going to be a good one.

  • @seriouskano2
    @seriouskano2 Год назад +1

    The Gaming Historian casually flexing with his Earthbound cartridge in the background.

  • @timothy790110
    @timothy790110 Год назад

    Listening to your vids is like puttning on a nice thick, comfy sweater on a autumn evening and snuggling up beside a crackling fire with a warm cup of chocolate

  • @gobosox2080
    @gobosox2080 Год назад +1

    The Bigs was one of my favorite games on the Wii.

  • @50TBRD
    @50TBRD Год назад +1

    When I was putting together my SNES collection like 15 years ago, I did get the Batter-Up Bat complete. Never did acquire the TeeV Golf complete though.

  • @Lasagnaisprettycool
    @Lasagnaisprettycool Год назад

    All that marketing, stars vouching for the product, awards from magazines, future plans that went to the moon, all for a piece of plastic that makes a button press. This is the definition of selling hot air.

  • @MikeDest
    @MikeDest Год назад +1

    I picked up one of these at Goodwill in 2000 for $3. I tried to use it once and then it went back into the box and just put in with the rest of the collection. Fun to see it kind of working.

  • @JessesAuditorium
    @JessesAuditorium Год назад

    Damn dude, you're about to hit 1 million.
    I still remember you answering me what camera you used around 300k, couldn't have happened to a cooler person!

  • @reidmcfatridge
    @reidmcfatridge Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for making these videos. I’m about to have surgery tomorrow and your videos have got me through the last couple months of binge listening them on my way to and from work and prepping for tomorrow. I’ve also started collecting a lot of the pieces you’ve talked about in your previous videos. Also just got a Mario paint today!

  • @JayBe443
    @JayBe443 Год назад

    That patreon bit and the end felt nostalgic! Reminded me of the PBS recognition on shows from my childhood

  • @MrShadow2x
    @MrShadow2x Год назад +1

    I remember my cousin got one of those! I think he got the Genesis version. We thought it was the coolest thing ever at the time, but we didn't fully understand how it worked.

  • @SeeleSO02
    @SeeleSO02 Год назад

    I had that stupid trapper keeper. You unlocked a core memory that I hadn't thought about in so long.

  • @Pangtime
    @Pangtime Год назад

    Your channel has been my favorite RUclips channel for about 2 years now. I always look forward to new episodes. This is coming from someone who has gotten rid of all paid subscriptions. I noticed you are closing in on 1 million subscribers. Must be exciting! Keep up the awesome work and congrats on the upcoming milestone!

  • @doddeddo
    @doddeddo Год назад

    You're the best bro, all these years every time I see a gaming historian video pop up I feel like atreat is coming dude thanks, greets form mexico

  • @CaptainJZH
    @CaptainJZH Год назад +1

    NEW GAMING HISTORIAN LETS GOOOO

  • @amazingeric97
    @amazingeric97 Год назад +35

    I remember when this bat got released for the Super Nintendo. I also remember it being sold at a discount price. I thought about purchasing the bat but decided to stay with the controller. I did play Ken Griffey Jr Presents MLB on the Super NES a lot back in the day. I liked the first Ken Griffey Jr baseball game more than the second.

    • @GamingHistorian
      @GamingHistorian  Год назад +12

      Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball is my favorite. It's definitely more fun with a regular ol' controller too!

    • @Marzimus
      @Marzimus Год назад +2

      Winning Run wasn't the same. Art style was lackluster and the whole thing just didn't feel as fluid and responsive.

    • @joeblankenship377
      @joeblankenship377 Год назад +2

      I definitely remember seeing ads for it. I think a lot of kids were too smart to be fooled by it. There was no possible way that the swing did anything other than push the A button.

    • @borrisg4972
      @borrisg4972 11 месяцев назад

      Also, in the first one you smash into the wall and collapse if you keep running to catch the ball, and you literally run people down instead of tagging them out. When you strike out you curse the ump or break your bat in half.
      Those 3 actions are why you don't waste your time on ANY baseball game other than Ken Griffey 1. Well, that and Bases Loaded 2 on the NES. That was the first game I've seen (and only one I played) that let player 2 charge the mound after player 1 intentionally beans the batter.

  • @sammiller5354
    @sammiller5354 Год назад +1

    My favorite part of the video was Norman’s UMKC Roo’s shirt.

  • @jasonmuller1199
    @jasonmuller1199 Год назад

    Gaming historian has the best game related documentaries, your work is excellent thanks

  • @marcosroberto3576
    @marcosroberto3576 Год назад +2

    "LIght doesn't bend"
    Large masses beg to differ

  • @thecunninlynguist
    @thecunninlynguist Год назад +2

    Always happy to watch twice

  • @ligomi
    @ligomi Год назад +3

    Wow I had one of these and I 100% forgot about it!

  • @_NoDrinkTheBleach
    @_NoDrinkTheBleach Год назад +1

    I think my mom bought me the Batter Up from a going out of business sale for like $5. It absolutely worked, but it had some serious limitations for half of every game. It was definitely best suited for games with Home Run Derby modes.

  • @Pendarr
    @Pendarr Год назад +1

    I love all GH videos but I especially love the ones about things I’ve never even heard of before!

  • @rodddossantos1437
    @rodddossantos1437 Год назад +1

    This channel’s content is always insightful, but also presented in such a calming and almost soothing manner. I’m 44 and this means a lot to me.
    Oh, and good call on Ken Griffey Jr. on SNES (I’m a baseball guy too)!
    Keep up the GREAT work!

    • @TheLarryburns84
      @TheLarryburns84 Год назад

      I love that basically anyone could get into this guy's content, not easy to do with video game related material

  • @angelchayne
    @angelchayne Год назад +4

    Love this channel!!! Never stop making these vids brother! I love documentaries

  • @demontamerbf18
    @demontamerbf18 Год назад

    After watching a lot of videos on RUclips about videogames, consoles and their history I always think I know every piece of hardware released and later I find out something completely new I had never heard of, this was one of those things, amazing video.

  • @thrillbilly9785
    @thrillbilly9785 Год назад

    Growing up playing home console video games with my family and friends in the 80s and 90s, I have never heard of this peripheral.

  • @James-gj8rn
    @James-gj8rn Год назад +1

    I was just watching your Roll and Rocker episode, keep up the great content Norm

  • @michelguerin5208
    @michelguerin5208 Год назад +2

    I really enjoy your video games documentaries. They’re Very informative and entertaining. Keep up the good work and please produce some, more often….😊

  • @trix48751
    @trix48751 11 месяцев назад

    The style of the box art for the “Batter Up Baseball Bat” is also used in title cards of the Cartoon Network classic “Ed, Edd n Eddy”.

  • @PBthesquirrel
    @PBthesquirrel Год назад

    That's smart to make it out of foam. Protect the TV, the people, and I'm guessing probably the electronic innards

  • @InuYugiHakusho
    @InuYugiHakusho Год назад +2

    Gimmicks like Batter Up walked so the Wii could run.

  • @vitacilina555
    @vitacilina555 Год назад +1

    Quality as usual. It's always a better day when there's a new Video release.

  • @feartheoldblood7222
    @feartheoldblood7222 Год назад +2

    Just wanna do my part for the algorithm so take my like and here's a comment of love and support for your amazing quality of work!

  • @caffeineadvocate
    @caffeineadvocate Год назад +2

    Look at you, using the Royals as your team..
    Nice touch. :)

  • @PBthesquirrel
    @PBthesquirrel Год назад

    Yayyy new GH video!! I'm a new fan and have been bingeing your stuff. I even got my mom watching!

  • @robertlauncher
    @robertlauncher Месяц назад

    That Tony’s art makes me glad for the Boyardee knockoff we got later

  • @PedroSilvahf
    @PedroSilvahf Год назад +1

    I knew about this but for Genesis, didn't even tought the snes had one

  • @MaidenHell1977
    @MaidenHell1977 Год назад

    Man just when you think you have seen it all from those good old glory days, here comes Norm with another piece of history no one knew about. Great episode, cheers buddy.

  • @BUNSOPAVES_PHD
    @BUNSOPAVES_PHD Год назад

    Had this for the Genesis and loved it at first playing World Series and RBI Baseball

  • @KasumiKenshirou
    @KasumiKenshirou Год назад +1

    Wow, I was around back then but never even heard of this thing.

  • @theretrosaberguy
    @theretrosaberguy Год назад +1

    I can imagine how many family members got hit over the head with this thing by accident

  • @matthewjones9237
    @matthewjones9237 Год назад +3

    Yay! Nu Vid!!! Thank you , Norman! 🤗😘

  • @taoufiktorchanitaoufik6977
    @taoufiktorchanitaoufik6977 Год назад +1

    reminds me of how I love Nintendo when it tries to be creative while the others only care about "graphics and power"

  • @R3troZone
    @R3troZone Год назад

    Yay motion control periferals! I was one of 3 guys that mass produced a 3rd party golf club for the Wii called the Chickenstick. It was made, assembled and shipped all over the word from just the 3 of us in a small warehouse in Hackensack New Jersey.

  • @johnraymma
    @johnraymma Год назад +1

    I forgot all about this thing I haven't seen that thing in forever!

  • @amtrakpepsiproduct1605
    @amtrakpepsiproduct1605 5 месяцев назад

    Imagine starting up an electronics company for the sole purpose of being able to make things so that you can practice golf in the winter.

  • @callanfox9870
    @callanfox9870 Год назад +1

    why didn't you try it out on a link to the past?
    swinging in the bat while link swings his sword, is the immersion I want.

  • @tookool5616
    @tookool5616 Год назад

    Big ups to the Gaming Historian and Shoutout Sean Ranklin.

  • @GCJACK83
    @GCJACK83 Год назад

    When you think about it, Nintendo may have had examples of all the old motion controllers that came before the Wiimote in the room while they were working on making the Wiimote to see if any of the prior ideas could also be used in what they were doing. Maybe even the Batter-Up Bat.

  • @nesterfesticle7033
    @nesterfesticle7033 Год назад +1

    (Not being creepy) Your voice is comforting.

  • @nerdcave6797
    @nerdcave6797 Год назад

    i've owned one of these as a curiosity for years and wondered about it, but could never find info on it. this video was somewhat of a relief

  • @jorgebarrera2165
    @jorgebarrera2165 Год назад +1

    Another great video, thank you Norm
    Ken Griffey Jr Baseball was bad ass…on another note I’d love to have seen grumpy old Lou Pinella swinging the Batter Up Bat hahahaha

  • @jasoncamps77
    @jasoncamps77 Год назад

    Would we have devices like the Wii without the lessons learned from these predecessors, as flawed as they were? I'm glad we can celebrate the efforts made with these products and appreciate the path they helped pave for the successes that came later.

  • @mgipson90
    @mgipson90 Год назад

    Glad you’re back!!! You were very missed.