Chatreey's N100's is the kingmaker pick. Replaceable/upgradeable storage and ram, single cable operation with a usb display, or how I use it into a usb dock that it takes turns with with my steam deck. That way it's almost a kvm because the ports on the dock are connected to whichever I plug in.
I have and use an N100 as a libreelec media player. One I chose is slightly noisy fan wise. Keeping an eye out for a fan less option that is priced right
Ahoy, great video again. Last Amazon bargain days I bought an IProda N97 PC with 16G/512G for $129. IProda is well known in Asia but not so much in the west. I was holding out for an N97 or faster. I watched an N300 PC. It is cheap at $183 but it was only 8G soldered on. So I'm well sarisfied with this N97 system, very quiet and stays cool and ia snappier than my N5105s. The last I looked it was back at its $233 price but look for it on sale days at Amazon. Cheers, daveyb
Hey man. Great video. In this range of prices, thinking as a gamer ( League of Legends) , would you suggest Blackview MP80 or other one? Keep going with the great work
I think what I'm learning is that you can often just buy whatever happens to be on sale. For example, I got my EQ14 N150 16GB DDR4 500gb M2 SSD for $169.
picked up a chatreey for father in law and a minix for my backup server. Looks like I'll have to give the minix to the FIL and return the chatreey as the fan surges annoyingly at idle and I haven't found a bios/advanced thermal setting (cntl-f1) that takes care of it. The shipped bios is later than any on the chatreey web site but an earlier bios seemed to address this specific issue. I'd guess this is a problem with my specific unit. CPU temp is around/under 40c, so I assume the fan is being spun up/down for some other reason.
Hello I'm new to your channel like what I see. What is the best mini pc for retro gaming that can handle ps3 or better. In this review I didn't see any amd ryzen reviews. Please help I'm trying to build a arcade and would like something that can handle one of the best retro gaming hard drive that I was looking at. You come highly recommended
I run a photo booth/photography business. 25 years in IT and most people are going to iPad setups with DSLR but I really wanted to stay with PC. Currently am running a Surface Pro 3 i7 setup. I want to replace it with a mini PC but need to keep size smaller. I am not up to date with the processors on these minis. What do you think these compare to regarding surface pro power? Thanks!
@@Robtech yeah it DEFINITELY is dated as I understand. I only asked because what might seem powerful we know might be limited with size. I guess I am just trying to find out what level I need to go to since I will need to buy two for redundancy.
You can find similar to the 1st in this video with better specs and cheaper on Aliexpress during big sales especially their anniversary and holidays - it will have the N100, 16gb ddr5 (5 not 4), 512gb storage. This configuration was ~100$usd during last anniversary sale. There is a slightly stronger one with the N97 chip which has higher clock and also offer stronger gpu performances, might cost ~120$usd on sale.
Thx for the overview =) I'm in the market for a mini to host a nextcloud (with onlyoffice running) on, which of these would you recommend for that? Would the Minix Z100-0dB magage that? Hope you have a great week =)
Interesting to learn the N97 outperforms all N100's. Can you hazard a guess as to the fps for FarCry 5 on Peladn W04 in dual ram mode? It's the game I refuse to stop playing every day for past two plus years. I might hit 3000 hours one day. I would think it would be similar to the GTA5 you test on.
The N97 is better than a N100 but it's not going to perform better than a GTX 970. Both machines still use intel UHD graphics and single channel RAM. You're likely looking at very small improvements to no improvement depending on the game's settings. Far cry 5 system requirements recommend a GTX 970 or R9 290X which is around the performance of an 890M iGPU like in a SER9 or about half that of mini pc like the Minisforum HX99G's 6600M GPU or a 790S7 RTX 4060 GPU. By turning down the settings, lower spec computers can be used but it is important to keep in mind the N100 and N97 are meant for essential computing. Not gaming. You will need to rely on cloud gaming services with a N97 to get the best gaming performance from the machine.
The "minimum" requirements specify an AMD Radeon R9 270 (2 GB) or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 (2 GB). The R9 270 has a 3Dmark DX11 graphics score of around 6000, while the WO4 in dual channel mode is around 4000. In other words, it's still far off the minimum requirements and would likely run poorly.
As a rule, Intel on board graphics are as good as amd stuff nearly half the price, so Far Cry 5 wouldn't fly. The N100/N97 can however, decode a stream of AV1, you could home network stream to it very well and with a really clear image.
This is why I don't buy the best Chinese models. I limit my spend to $500. It seems like Chinese manufacturers find a viable unit to produce, set up the production line and make a certain number of them and then are gone. They make minimal effort to maintain support for their invention which makes them all disposable devices. No repair system, no support number to call, and in a year, no sign of them ever being in business.
@PlayingItWrong you get what you pay for. $120 can't pay for a plumber to disconnect and reconnect a sink but apparently it can afford a mini super computer and massive technical support team /s
@Somatom_Man 1. Computer racism is silly. 2. Tech changes so fast that small batch production is often the only viable manufacturing method. If AMD and intel decides to change the processor or even just the name every year with refreshes, then smaller brands are going to use the newer model. It's a pain even just finding car manufacturers making a brand new 2022 or 2023 model in 2024. Idk why we expect different with computers. 3. $500 is a very good budget for most people. It's a one sided argument to assume the buyer is always right. There are a lot of situations where a buyer can have unrealistic expectations, communication skills of sandpaper, or simply buy from brands without a website and complain later why there is no website. There are good and bad brands out there but they do not represent everyone. It is one of those weird quirks of a market that tries to make products a wide range of buyers and there will be a wide range of results. There really isn't a solution other than helping people understand that they cannot take the shotgun approach to buying products in a diverse product market. If people can even just understand basic things like don't buy from sites with 0-7 day return policies and to buy a machine that has the performance needed for their task, everyone could avoid an enormous amount of drama.
Great video! Thank you for including prices. So many reviewers don’t. Awesome!
RIP the Ser5 5560, picked it up when it was on special and it's still my 2nd/backup machine and going strong. One of the best buys I've ever done.
Chatreey's N100's is the kingmaker pick. Replaceable/upgradeable storage and ram, single cable operation with a usb display, or how I use it into a usb dock that it takes turns with with my steam deck. That way it's almost a kvm because the ports on the dock are connected to whichever I plug in.
Thank you Robtech, yeah this the prices we only spend on computer for the last 20 years of tech business history as a entry-level buyer
I bought my black view mini PC based on your recommendation.... Love it. Exactly what I needed.
Thanks for the reviews. I've got the GMKtec N100 (with upgraded RAM and storage) based on your review and it's still going strong.
3 weeks later. How is it now?
@@mrman6035 Still doing great, and I've actually had it longer than 3 weeks. I bought it based on one of his earlier reviews.
Good video GDI Commander!
Great video, I'm just looking at which mini-PC to buy. Thank you!
Thanks, mate! Another important video!
Like to see your channel grow 👍
I have and use an N100 as a libreelec media player. One I chose is slightly noisy fan wise. Keeping an eye out for a fan less option that is priced right
I've got the Neosmay AC8-V2 review coming soon.
Ahoy, great video again. Last Amazon bargain days I bought an IProda N97 PC with 16G/512G for $129. IProda is well known in Asia but not so much in the west. I was holding out for an N97 or faster. I watched an N300 PC. It is cheap at $183 but it was only 8G soldered on. So I'm well sarisfied with this N97 system, very quiet and stays cool and ia snappier than my N5105s. The last I looked it was back at its $233 price but look for it on sale days at Amazon. Cheers, daveyb
Hey man. Great video. In this range of prices, thinking as a gamer ( League of Legends) , would you suggest Blackview MP80 or other one?
Keep going with the great work
Depends on what you're okay with. The Ryzen mini will provide a much higher framerate
I think what I'm learning is that you can often just buy whatever happens to be on sale. For example, I got my EQ14 N150 16GB DDR4 500gb M2 SSD for $169.
They all definitely don't perform the same even if they have the same CPU.
What mini pc would you recommend in the 250-350 us dollar range that can do 1080p ps2 and gamecube emulation and some light 2d and 3d indie games?
This one's $330 and is a great mini PC amzn.to/4i8tBn5. I've done a review on it.
Hey Rob -- I think a ZILLION years ago I asked you why some company didn't consider a magnetic top to open a Mini and HERE it FINALLY is!
picked up a chatreey for father in law and a minix for my backup server. Looks like I'll have to give the minix to the FIL and return the chatreey as the fan surges annoyingly at idle and I haven't found a bios/advanced thermal setting (cntl-f1) that takes care of it. The shipped bios is later than any on the chatreey web site but an earlier bios seemed to address this specific issue. I'd guess this is a problem with my specific unit. CPU temp is around/under 40c, so I assume the fan is being spun up/down for some other reason.
i'm waiting for that $300+ top list where it seems you get the best performance.
Hello I'm new to your channel like what I see. What is the best mini pc for retro gaming that can handle ps3 or better. In this review I didn't see any amd ryzen reviews. Please help I'm trying to build a arcade and would like something that can handle one of the best retro gaming hard drive that I was looking at. You come highly recommended
Nothing under $250 will do a good job for PS3. Here's the list above that ruclips.net/video/Hygiuq59Ri0/видео.html
Can't find some of them and the other ones 2 expensive
I run a photo booth/photography business. 25 years in IT and most people are going to iPad setups with DSLR but I really wanted to stay with PC. Currently am running a Surface Pro 3 i7 setup. I want to replace it with a mini PC but need to keep size smaller. I am not up to date with the processors on these minis. What do you think these compare to regarding surface pro power? Thanks!
That's a 4th generation Intel chip, which is far surpassed by any mid or high end mini PC.
@@Robtech yeah it DEFINITELY is dated as I understand. I only asked because what might seem powerful we know might be limited with size. I guess I am just trying to find out what level I need to go to since I will need to buy two for redundancy.
Something like the Minisforum UH125 Pro which I've reviewed will be plenty for your needs and has a full sized SD card reader.
Hello new to your channel what mini Pc is the best for Gta5 and games like that?
Something using at least a 6800H, 6900HX or 7735HS will give a good experience. Like the GMKtec M7/M7 Pro
Your thoughts on the Beelink EQi12? Listed for $259 on Amazon. Curious to know if this would make your list.
Haven't reviewed it.
Which of these would be better for playing games like roblox and watching streams, tik tok, youtube etc?
The Peladn WO4 is the best choice. The other ones will give an okay Roblox experience.
You can find similar to the 1st in this video with better specs and cheaper on Aliexpress during big sales especially their anniversary and holidays - it will have the N100, 16gb ddr5 (5 not 4), 512gb storage. This configuration was ~100$usd during last anniversary sale. There is a slightly stronger one with the N97 chip which has higher clock and also offer stronger gpu performances, might cost ~120$usd on sale.
Thx for the overview =)
I'm in the market for a mini to host a nextcloud (with onlyoffice running) on, which of these would you recommend for that? Would the Minix Z100-0dB magage that?
Hope you have a great week =)
According to the Nextcloud requirements page, seems to be fine.
Bought the mp80 last 11 11 sale. Hope it lasts
Will the n100 be able to run rblx like shooting games n stuff
Roblox games run at around 30-40FPS on an N100.
Have you seen Intel i3-1220p based mini pcs? Same price range as 5500u units but slightly faster and can be used with openvino.
Next review is an i3-1220P
0db would have been my choice if it could be powered by PD
Interesting to learn the N97 outperforms all N100's. Can you hazard a guess as to the fps for FarCry 5 on Peladn W04 in dual ram mode? It's the game I refuse to stop playing every day for past two plus years. I might hit 3000 hours one day. I would think it would be similar to the GTA5 you test on.
The N97 is better than a N100 but it's not going to perform better than a GTX 970. Both machines still use intel UHD graphics and single channel RAM. You're likely looking at very small improvements to no improvement depending on the game's settings. Far cry 5 system requirements recommend a GTX 970 or R9 290X which is around the performance of an 890M iGPU like in a SER9 or about half that of mini pc like the Minisforum HX99G's 6600M GPU or a 790S7 RTX 4060 GPU. By turning down the settings, lower spec computers can be used but it is important to keep in mind the N100 and N97 are meant for essential computing. Not gaming. You will need to rely on cloud gaming services with a N97 to get the best gaming performance from the machine.
The "minimum" requirements specify an AMD Radeon R9 270 (2 GB) or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 (2 GB). The R9 270 has a 3Dmark DX11 graphics score of around 6000, while the WO4 in dual channel mode is around 4000. In other words, it's still far off the minimum requirements and would likely run poorly.
As a rule, Intel on board graphics are as good as amd stuff nearly half the price, so Far Cry 5 wouldn't fly. The N100/N97 can however, decode a stream of AV1, you could home network stream to it very well and with a really clear image.
@@PlayingItWrong Sounds like a good idea. Going to test that on a HP G3 Min when I get home later.
@@CEG3RDtry and ensure only one leg of the signal is WiFi.(so pc to router wired, router to mini pc wireless for example).
What's this about two 8 Gb ram modules being faster than a single 16 Gb unit? I was not aware of this. Why?
www.crucial.com/articles/about-memory/what-is-dual-channel-memory
GDI FTW
This is why I don't buy the best Chinese models. I limit my spend to $500. It seems like Chinese manufacturers find a viable unit to produce, set up the production line and make a certain number of them and then are gone. They make minimal effort to maintain support for their invention which makes them all disposable devices. No repair system, no support number to call, and in a year, no sign of them ever being in business.
Churn and burn business.
No different to Intel now they've dumped the NUCs to Asus.
I limit myself to $120 😂
@PlayingItWrong you get what you pay for. $120 can't pay for a plumber to disconnect and reconnect a sink but apparently it can afford a mini super computer and massive technical support team /s
@Somatom_Man
1. Computer racism is silly.
2. Tech changes so fast that small batch production is often the only viable manufacturing method. If AMD and intel decides to change the processor or even just the name every year with refreshes, then smaller brands are going to use the newer model. It's a pain even just finding car manufacturers making a brand new 2022 or 2023 model in 2024. Idk why we expect different with computers.
3. $500 is a very good budget for most people. It's a one sided argument to assume the buyer is always right. There are a lot of situations where a buyer can have unrealistic expectations, communication skills of sandpaper, or simply buy from brands without a website and complain later why there is no website. There are good and bad brands out there but they do not represent everyone. It is one of those weird quirks of a market that tries to make products a wide range of buyers and there will be a wide range of results.
There really isn't a solution other than helping people understand that they cannot take the shotgun approach to buying products in a diverse product market. If people can even just understand basic things like don't buy from sites with 0-7 day return policies and to buy a machine that has the performance needed for their task, everyone could avoid an enormous amount of drama.
NOT GOOD FOR GAMING ON AAA TITLES
Obviously, you’d probably need to at least spend 600-700$ or a little more on a mini pc like these to enjoy a triple A game at low settings at 60fps