Malygos Quest Combo Druid w/ a New Elise Friend | Firebat Hearthstone | Saviors of Uldum
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Malygos combo druid seems to always come back around. This is a pretty fun version.
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Firebat is really upset at pocket's galaxy
He has every right to be
It's a really shit card
@@TheFirstWinnerN1 People were saying it was garbage, basically 400 dust, back in the days. I guess times change.
@@leonardouliano4896 2 mana is a lot.
@@legitimateliar9239 I agree, but I played it to legend when it was 7 mana and noone was saying anything.
We need a "fun and interactive" video about pockets galaxy
Somewhere, someone should make a collection of all of HS's "fun and interactive" decks, like freeze mage, tier 0 druid, razakus priest, whatever broken combos were in beta, etc.
@@rawovunlapin8201 Back when the Draw a card whenever you summon a beast was 2 mana, it was an absolute menace.
Interactive GOAT? and sadly due to nerfs it isn't possible :(
While again playing 50 damage from hand after doing nothing but clearing the board and drawing.
Remember how he did a vid about countering tempo rogue in that meta. I think he should do one about dr boom
And galaxy. I mean, if there is a way
How to counter galaxy mage "pray they don't have galaxy or kill them before turn 6
@@bayleaf2383 so just SMOrc them down? Sounds good, _but_ _lemme_ _get_ _some_ _murlocs_ _to_ _way_ _in_ _on_ _this_
@@rawovunlapin8201 sure thing, but you can't SMOrc because they freeze every single turn until they win
@@Juanse2012 just gotta stack their deck ez.
What do you mean uninteractable? Pocket galaxy dies to counterspell bro. It's totally balanced. :^)
To defeat your enemy you have to become it, there must be a lesson in there.
Who is this clean-shaven man and what did he do with Firebat??
From the moment i dropped Elise i saw the possibility but i suck at deck building, thx mr. Bat you did it!
Oh man, the Goose is back!
Boom forces you to run value cards or play combo decks as seen above is the thing that isn't necessarily bad.
I would say that control warrior as a deck is the most annoying thing to face. Aggro loses to it(which it should), Value control deck can barely eek out wins(if played by good players for example Quest Shaman) and now not even combo decks are a counter to it. They have 4x 1 drops, 2x amazing 2 drops, Snip-Snap, Zilliax, Dynomatic, Reckless Mummy which are all great control tools, while also gaining tempo. And even if a there is a combo meta warrior can slot in Hecklebot, Mischief Maker and many others available in the current format. My favourite deck has been Midrange Hunter since the start. Back in the day you could beat them with consistent pressure, then you outvalued them with DK rexxar, then you combo'ed them with frenzy's and dire wolf alphas. Now you can not even do that. As you have to keep up with their tempo, and you don't have enough resources to both survive and combo them. So your only option is to get lucky and try to aggro them down. This is just my perspective as a hunter player. Sorry for the long rant.
You are right. I was playing quest shaman. I thougth ok, i go to fatigue against control warrior i will play mechatun, for the lols when we are at that point. They put out mechatun, 2 times of 2 against control warrior.
Fuck the perspective of a hunter, go get some skill
Yeah, go play a real skillful class like Warrior. Skillfully pulling Omega Devastators from their hero power every time.
@Funky Kong Usually control decks are a deadly dance of using/saving your removal at the right time. Not the case for control warrior as they can use it as they wish and still win. CW's winrate is 58 percent across all ranks on HSreplay. There has never been a control deck that is both so overpowered and with such a low skill floor to pilot. To be honest this whole expansion is flawed. Blizzard did not release very many infinite value generators during the year of the raven. With Dr. Boom and hagatha being the exceptions. They only needed to nerf DR. boom and hearthstone would resume as it was pre-DK. But, no they print new infinite value decks. Instead of fixing the OP, they made everything OP. People enjoy every expansion at the start, but I predict that in a month we will experience the most boring and uninteractive meta we've had in years.
@@acrispim1547 TBH Midrange Hunter has become a really skillful deck since Rise of Shadows as it is essentially a control deck. More of a control deck than Control warrior at the moment.
The Goose is back
Somebody got highrolled
OTK Druid on the other hand is super fun and interactive
Control warrior deserves to get dunked on. Fuck anyone that plays that garbage
It is! Your opponent has the entire game to beat you down while you assemble the combo. It's a bit different from "Galaxy on 5? You win!"
firebat was right about dr.boom
Firebat's new camera is great.
So if you're running Elise to help with the combo, would it be that bad to run Zephrys?
Not swiping missed 6 damage not 4, only having one swipe in hand would mean you can duplicate your hand before pouncing and get a bonus 2 damage
He actually missed 6 damage because with the extra hand space he could duplicate pounce
Wait, when did pocket galaxy become a thing?
When they buffed it by two mana
I've never heard firebat complain about that card once until this video. I do only watch the youtube vids though
@@Ineedanaccountnow0 if you watch his streams he's been complaining since the moment it was buffed by two mana. it's just people in his chat and videos who never watch him that are complaining that he "never said anything before the expansion" despite the fact he's done nothing but mention how unfun and uninteractive it is since the very second the buff was placed into the game.
If you can't tell - I'm a frequent viewer that is probably even more annoyed than he is about these comments in his Twitch chat constantly accusing him of "never saying anything before the expansion" despite the fact he's been one of the loudest complainers about it since the second the buff happened.
@@PirateMacDougall finally someone that can call themselves a fan
@@Ineedanaccountnow0 Watch his latest deck doctor. He stopped the deck doctor because he was too salty from all the pocket galaxies.
Finally someone not on the boom hate train.
Found the wallet warrior player
Oh God, I was planning to reply to every comment individually because I thought there would only be one or two people thinking that nerfing Luna's Pocket Galaxy would somehow change the fact that it is a mechanically uninteresting, unfun, uninteractive and inconsistent (you have to draw it early on while it's only 1 copy in your 30 card deck) card. The card straight up needs Hall Of Famed, no possible nerf in the known universe will change the fact that it is mechanically uninteresting, unfun, uninteractive and even inconsistent.
(Yes I consider inconsistency a problem on powerful cards - I don't like the mindset of losing a game to my opponent drawing a single card and I don't even like the mindset of winning against them because in the back of my mind I know I only won because they didn't draw their single game winning card).
Welcome to wild, Barnes will show you around :)
@@lj4888 Wild is the main gamemode I play but Wild is the format that used to contain hunters dropping boards of giants, Priests constantly resurrecting massive minions from the very start of the game and other such "fun and interactive" decks. You mentioning Barnes is appropriate because Luna's Pocket Galaxy is a similar sort of "fun and interactive" deck build-around, if anything you've proved my point that Luna's Pocket Galaxy belongs in Wild by giving an example of how it would fit evenly into the powerlevel of cards in that format more than Standard.
What if he had hit the floop with the first florist? Would he have to either take the 50-50 on it hitting the goose or just give up and just clone moonfires multiple times with elise>floop>floop>floop?
7:12 me at my own jokes
you could play reborn quest paladin to win almost every matchup against warrior
Captain Inconspicuous and lose to a lot of other decks lol
Dr. Boom pushes same problem as Death Knights did. You *can* defeat them, but you only have very specific options, because you can never ever win value game. This of course shits on any wacky deck motivation, as your chances to win against value of Warrior or aggressive decks is suboptimal.
You can't blame boom for making wacky decks less viable. There will ALWAYS be a deck that forces the weird decks to not be competitive. If it isn't warrior its warlock or mage, or take your pick. Focusing just on one card in one class doesn't make sense. You can not like boom, just don't pretend he is the thing holding a massive part of the game back from being a thing.
I've outvalued warrior decks that drop boom on 7 with an aggro murloc shaman. All you gotta do is count their removals and tech in value cards that fit into your deck as I did with Hagatha.
Quest shaman, quest paladin, and Tess theif rogue
All out value control warrior with boom on curve
@@poopbuttmcgee Hagatha, again, is close to DK with it's passive power. So you require Hero card to beat Hero card, not many classes have that.
And @Keith , I'm not saying Dr. Boom as is is OP, as you still need to play it and stuff like that. I'm saying cards that have very strong hero powers, not to mention RNG involved with them, and even some crazy additional effects like Rush for entire game that makes them have semi-infinite removal go against Hearthstone philosophy, hence why Baku and Genn had to leave early.
Finite cards and finite (short) time playing, everything else is cumbersome.
Love your editor
Personally I think the worst part about the pocket galaxy mage decks is that there are very few cards that can deal with the amount of big minions they put down (in one turn with barely any effort).
"bat cave team thing" you really have way with words
Kool deck
"cool with dr boom" lol
Yo bat I get that Luna’s pocket galaxy is pretty OP but I don’t see how it’s different from the other mana discount mechanics like in this game for example, it wasn’t very interactive for your opponent to sit there and take 40+ damage to the face in one turn over a combo he could not have prevented
Oliver Boetius He could have prevented it, there are disruption cards in the game so that if a combo deck like this becomes the meta you can counter it, another counter it is to be more agressive. Another thing is that luna’s pocket galaxy is one card where this is 6+ cards to get the combo.
hans hansen what warrior cards could he have used to disrupt it besides maybe a highroll heckle bot? And the argument for aggressive play to counter could be used for any slower paced deck, I’m just trying to say that at least with Luna’s pocket you have a chance to contest the board I’ve beaten mages with Luna’s active pretty often but there’s next to nothing “interactive” about feeling like your ahead on the board and safe with 40+ health and then getting smacked for so much burn (not that I feel bad for warriors lol)
Oliver Boetius Warrior is able be very aggresive with the rush minions and mechs, and he could play heckle bot that could hit maly, floop or flourish (not good with names) another card he could play is the minion that plays a spell from each players hand, that work good to get rid of moonfires, and if you watched firebat needed to draw through his whole deck so he it’s a slow deck. With Luna’s on the otherhand what disruption would you be able to run to counter it? There is nothing.
Admittedly warrior and mage are both pretty bonkers right now, but what game is perfect? I think this meta is the best yet, regardless of control warrior and conjure mage being a thing.
Damn dude sweet deck ;)
i agree tho dr. boom only felt slightly oppressive when tempo rouge was so insane that control warrior was the only reasonable counter. With rouge being less busted you can play other reasonable greedy decks that can outvalue warrior while not insta losing vs rouge.
Rogue is so meh atm.
I think the reason Firebat thinks Pocket Galaxy is a problem but Dr Boom is not is because at least from RUclips stream clips he is a combo player. He prefers to set up a game ending combo that you cannot prevent (see Gonk combo, Malygos combo, Tundra Rhino/Zuljin combo, King Krush combo, Heistbaron togglewaggle leeroy combo), which beats Dr Boom because that is a control deck. Boom squeezes out all other midrange/control decks from being able to properly compete, which is frustrating. Decks pre rotation could because they used the likes of Frost Lich Jaina and Deathstalker Rexxar to compete for value, but now we only have Hagatha or at least now quests to an extent.
Firebat's a known aggro player. Janky combos just work well for YT highlights.
dr boom is more interactive aswell because you can play sround some hero powers while with pocket galaxy you can only hope they dont a good hand. alsogalaxy is 2 turns earlier and sets up for strong proactive plays while dr boom sets up for reactive plays
@jocaguz18 Indeed, I did say at least from RUclips stream clips :) He streams a little late in the evening for me to watch in the UK.
The best way to stop Dr.Boom being a problem is simply for Blizzard to remove its obsession with making every infinite value card hero power related.
For example: 4 cost Warlock spell "Summon a 2/2 demon with rush and lifesteal. Repeatable." Repeat for every class, but make Warrior's terrible.
It's not Dr.Boom itself, which is a problem, but its lack of competition.
P.S Also it's not as strong as people make it out to be. Eternium Rover was actually better last expansion.
@jocaguz18 True, but it does need competition.
Hi, does anyone know how can I replace Loti? That’s the only card I don’t have and not enough dust..Is Ziliax ok?
What is the purpose of pounce in this deck with no auctioneer?
Can duplicate it to get more damage, so that gives you reach.Also helps vs aggro.
you can play it turn 1/2 against aggro and still complete quest
@@jacksonmagas9698 makes sense, thanks
As someone who has been playing Highlander Mage with Galaxy, it sure as hell does lose to early aggression as does everything
Blast Wave / Blizzard / Flamestrike can only do so much against 2 drop Tip the Scales or Miracle Rogue topdecking a sap with 1 card in hand and a full board.
Firebat complaining about un-interactivity while playing OTK combo druid LUL
It counters Dr Boom so Dr Boom is fine.
Which involves reducing mana cost TWICE and duplicating his hand.
That requires a multi-turn setup which can be disrupted by anti-combo cards like Hecklebot, Saboteur, Mojomaster. You can also set up other convoluted anti-combos. Luna's is one single card, can be played starting at turn 5, and enables not just one OTK, but turn after turn of disgusting combos.
@@TheJonbone I'm not saying its broken, I just thought it was funny haha
@@GeekProdigyGuy People won't play those disruptors just because they might bump into Maly Druid.
I agree that Pocket Galaxy is pretty bad, but if we’re on that topic, aren’t Malygos mana reduction decks also really uninteractive?
I’m not entirely unsure of the difference between a deck running florist/maly or Gepetto/maly vs a deck running Luna’s/Archmage/Alex.
(If Blizzard is a kind god they’ll rotate both cards out of the game :^) )
With Luna's you can realistically lose by turn 7, giving you almost no time to react to their game plan. With Maly combos it takes much longer to assemble and so you are given much more time to counter it.
You're right, it is uninteractive, however, firebat had to first find flower power, then play all minions that he didnt want to discount, had to roll a 1/3 for the highroll all while saving burn damage for the combo. The combo for Luna's is to simply play lunas then draw cards. One combo is tough to pull off and requires 7 cards and the other is a one card "combo" that can be played on turn 5. Uninteractive decks are only unhealthy for the game when it's one of the best decks to win with AND a vast percentage of players are playing it on ladder. You can also add 2 mountain giants, kalecgos, that 10 mana pharaoh guy (sorry bad with names), tortollan pilgrim AND siamat to your Archmage / Alex list.
Nice video
So why pounce? Been wondering.. i dont play enough druid to know if its affected by spell power, or just something to use in conjunction with early hero power for removal.. or both? Lol!
I havent watched this video yet either.. saving it until a couples later at break.. so.. any help would be appreciated! Thanks all!
it is a card that doesn't use mana that allows you to kill early game minions and get quest credit.
I think pocket galaxy at 6 would be more tolerable and definitely playable but a 2 mana buff was pushing it a little too much
No he's right, it needs Hall Of Famed, no nerf will change the fact that it is mechanically uninteresting, unfun and uninteractive and even inconsistent.
Don't nerf LPG, it enables so much fun in WIld and allows previously unplayed cards to shine. The wild meta is much faster and has many more powerful cards and combos than standard. Hall of Fame it like what was done with Genn and Baku instead.
i have never seen a mage that didnt either go quest cyclone mage or secret mage in wild. Dunno which deck you are referring to.
@@acancaacanca926 you've never come across Reno mages? Guess you don't play much wild at a high level. Check hearthpwn and you'll notice one of the most popular wild decks there runs LPG
@@HeloisGevit Dont play ladder at all. There are sites for wild decks? God people are lazy/unoriginal.
@@HeloisGevit ran across a couple reno mages now. They seem to be countered by quest jade shaman i guess? Honestly seemed meh to me.
@@acancaacanca926 Honestly mate you don't seem to have much knowledge of the wild meta right now. Quest jade Shaman is not a competitive force. Reno mage is.
New expansion=New reasons to bitch and moan
I legitimately thought he was talking about Dreampetal Florist at the beginning before he said Pocket Galaxy, pretty amusing lack of self-awareness there. Not that it takes away from his point, Luna's Pocket Galaxy is obviously overpowered at 5 and is obviously a stupid mechanic in general even at an unplayably high cost like 10-mana. It's just that the numbers are all wrong rather than that it's uninteractive mana cheat, "cheating mana and then killing your opponent with something uninteractive" has described roughly half of the prominent decks in every meta for the last 2-3 years at least.
That's just what Hearthstone is, you either drop stats on curve (and thus "cheat" by abusing the inherent imbalance of tempo built into the game's basic rules) or you find some combination of effects that allows you to "cheat" and break the game in another way. Honest decks haven't really existed for a looong time now, seems kinda late to be ranting about that shift.
What if Omega Devastator wasn't a mech
Alex Coffman shield slam 2 mana or dr boom only gives you 5 mana aswell
SaVe tHe bESt fOr LaSt
What's he talking about with pocket galaxy?
I have rarely seen anyone as salty as Firebat was about the Pocket Galaxy.
Which tier would you put this deck in?
Man if Pockey Galaxy is bad i wonder how much worse the entire Shadowverse is
Complain about Luna but is perfectly alright with a quest that complete itself.
The two are nothing alike
@@crini413 So you don't have to interact with it and I guess it doens't lower mana cost but gives you godlike value for almost nothing.
@@tamroberts7303 quest druid is weak af, sure the hero power is great and it could become a great deck if they print more cards that support the archetype but atm it is a joke. Tier 3 value deck at best.
@@acancaacanca926 Besides the fact it has a 68 percent win rate?
@@tamroberts7303 hahahahaha, no.
Mindblast and vanish were hof because of zephrys
i could understand vanish as it creates an infinite board clear but not really mind blast.
I'm pretty sure there are classic/basic cards still in standard that aren't in the picks for Zephrys, like Shadow Madness, so I doubt they removed those cards because of Zephrys.
@@princessfilth2450 I'm pretty sure zephrys just isn't programmed to take advantage of shadow madness it's not for balance reasons
so if you run siamat with quest druid, do you get all 4? or what about with completed quest shaman?
With quest shaman, yes. Druid, no.
It's a battlecry, not choose one. You get 2 battlecries with shaman, yes.
What if it was like an omega card. so it costed 5 but you couldn't play it till at earliest turn 10
i concur with firebat dr.boom is not that scary the pocket galaxy is way more op.
I remember calling this OTK deck when she was reviled and got called an idiot by 20+ people, OTK META is dead, imagining OTK deck in zoo META, imagine OTK deck vs warrior. OTK Mally Druid has never been better not only does it deal with aggro and even midrange decks but it keeps its crazy draw and does more damage than ever.
This Meta has so many OTK decks,
1x Mage Deck
1x Paladin Deck
1x Druid Deck
2x Priest Decks
2x Rogue Decks
2x Warrior Decks
3x Hunter Decks
RIP SHAMAN.
Pocket Galaxy saw no real play before the buff, upping its mana cost back to where it was would probably make it unplayable again, or at least a card for combos.
thats what it should be .. not an Auto include in almost any mage deck just bcuz its a gg button if u get it turn 5.
I was thinking the same think; however, I fear that they would probably still run it since two more mana (and so two turns later) is not a very big deal when you can catch up so quickly with Stargazer Luna and would have synergy with Phaoris and other big spell synergy stuff. "Why didn't they run it before the buff then?" you could ask. Well, I think that people just gave up on building a deck around such card after all the failures in the first month of BDP, but now that it's consistently played it's just a completely different matter.
Giuseppe Serenelli no, at 7 mana it will be totally unplayable
@@giuseppeserenelli2053 People tried to Play Luna when it was at 7 but the deck was more memeish, not a good winrate. Also, u cant look at Luna the way u do. Luna at lets say 7 would give u These Questions:
- Can i afford to Keep a 7 mana Card in my Opening Hand?
- Are other decks Maybe to aggressive so i simply cant afford to Play Luna ( at deckbuilding aswell as ingame )? Because at 7 u usualy want to do other Things.
Right now Luna with its 5 mana cost fits way to nicely in the game Mage wants to Play. This + the Facts that mage is already in very good shape + Luna at 5 is almost an Auto win make it way to good .. not just imo. Im very positive that Blizzard will nerf Luna, Question just is how. Another Mage target should be Conjurers.
The META was also more aggressive then with no 3 mana deal 3 damage to all secret and less big good minions. Most pockets are played on turn 6 to 8 anyways
Honestly, if they put it back at 7, Pocket might still be playable in a Tortollan Pilgrim deck.
They should just make Skulking Geist a classic card to tech against lunas decks.
Filthy Casul skulking geist destroys 1 mana spells not minions
@@MrFarmerWiesiu Ah fug im an idiot my bad
Firebat doesn't want boom nerfed because how will he climb ladder off stream if they nerf it
Luke's uninteractable? What about Unseen Saboteur :-)
Yes, the way to counter luna's pocket galaxy, is to cast it for them.
You can counter spell it or play a lot of tempo to make it tricky to cast.
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No epic sax?
I'm way cooler with Dr. 7 than with Dyn-o-bullshit, Bullshit Mummy or Bullshit Defender.
Hilarious Firebat criticizing an uninteractable, mana-discounting card while playing an uninteractable, mana-discounting OTK combo.
Crazy how everyone forgot how un fun shadow reaper anduin and raza was.
elpresidente550 because it got nerfed
0:05
What u doing here
Complains about fun n' interactive, plays Maly Druid. Th0nk
Being early on accident pog
Boom should lose passive rush on mechs.
pockets galaxy isnt broken because its fundamentally broken imo,its because mage can get away with casting it on 5 or 4 with coin because they have so much powerful thing to compensate before and after casting pockets galaxy like giant conjurers and girl+cyclone turn
Unironically this. It's broken because it's a mage card and mages are broken by design.
Dr boom is the most unfun card to play against
Yes, I could agree that pocket galaxy can be very op, but there's nothing more unfun than playing against control warrior.
@@tarao666 for me its suprisngly easy I run a warlock quest meacthun deck that uses plague of flames and 1 glvanizer on meachthun
its halrious to see a 40/60 health warrior get destroyed in 1 turn while they cant do shit about it I used a modefied deck from here
ruclips.net/video/PBkraQ75-DU/видео.html
mostly got more draws and replaced the fellord with another twisting nether
Frost Lich Jaina says hi
Nah, it's Pocket Galaxy.
Zemo Frost Lich Jania allows for counter play. You can’t counter play randomly generated omega devastators and zilliaxies. You can’t counter play random armor gain.
he's genuinely just wrong when he says boom is more fun than pocket galaxy, at least pocket galaxy wont waste 20 minutes of your life
Technically he said more outplay potential and in turn makes it more fun - sorry you were wrong and had to point it out
It's interesting how pocket galaxy went from not even played to big enough for Firebat to rant about. Amazing what 2 mana will do.
You're missing the point with your whole "Warrior is totally fine" shtick. It's unfun. The heart of Hearthstone isn't players playing a deck that costs 160$, it is the casual players playing Zoo, playing Tempo, playing Midrange. Control Warrior takes a hot steamy shit on newer players playing non-Control/Combo decks in a way that is unhealthy for the game. Luna's is just a card that you don't like seeing, Control Warrior perverts the game. It's not really a wonder you see people flock to Hunter, since it plays Hearthstone the card game the way it was designed to be played (on the bus, on the toilet) and has a match-up favorable against anti-fun residentsleeper.
Pupper Doggo You can make a control warrior deck without paying anything, and control decks is also part of the game and has been since the start, it’s bullshit to say that the game was only meant to be played on the bus or on the toilet, And when you say that the deck is anti-fun i must say it’s mighty high of you to determine what “fun” in this game is.
@@Maltesfilm OP's problem isn't with the cost of a ctrl wari deck, the problem is with the cost of a counter ctrl wari deck that is a ctrl deck itself...
Bad boom take. Good pocket galaxy take
Complains about uninteractive mana reduction card.
Plays uninteractive OTK combo based on mana reduction
To be fair that's exactly the comparison he used as a joke to introduce the deck/video.
Except it is interactive because if it ever became meta there are multiple combo disruptor cards like Hecklebot, Unseen Saboteur, Wild Bloodstinger etc. The combo also requires multiple turns of set up and you need no duplicates with only combo pieces in your hand.
@@ExOTiC1234 Noone's gonna run those cards just because they might bump into Maly Druid.
1Crivella this actually requires 7 cards and preping to pull of unlike that shitty mage card and like the dude above said this gets countered very easily with combo disruptors
I'm lost, why is pocket galaxy bad for being mana cheat and uninteractable but dreampetal florist is OK?
and that the opponent can do something in response by killing Dreampetal after, unlike galaxy which buffs your hold deck and the opponent can’t do anything about it.
I'd rather inflict self harm than play against another boom on 7 warrior.
I don't like how Hearthstone is basically rock, paper, scissors. Aggro loses to control nearly 100% of the time, Control loses to Combo, and Combo loses to Aggro. Its just not fun. And as far as Dr. Boom goes he is literally all of the late game a control deck could ever want *In a single card*
Good_Rum well that’s most card games and games with a meta. Some deck do well against others but I agree it gets more fun when there’s more decks being played instead of just aggro, control warrior and top decking rng pulling bullshit mage :)
What happened to Midrange?
@@poppers7317 Typically falls under aggro cause the main goal is to pressure your opponent and kill them, its just mildly slower
Complaining about a card not being fun and interactive while playing a Malygos Druid OTK that has enough juice to burn down a control warrior via hand duplication is an interesting choice...
The warrior deserves it. Fuck control warrior and anyone that plays it
LPG really Needs to get nerfed again, either to 6 or even back to 7. Delaying by one turn can be huge since Mage often wants to Blizzard / Reno turn 6, ofc everything above would even further hurt it .. and that would be good. Rn LPG is unhealthy af bcuz of what Firebat said. Card shouldnt be an Auto include in literaly any mage deck, it should be for Combo decks which the best builds Arent atm. Also Conjurers Needs to get hit, atleast 1 mana higher or even take the twinspell.
yet i loose to warrior a lot when playing it. Admittedly I run a subpar version because I dont own all the optimal cards but I stand by that I very much dislike warrior.
Because heavy control counters it, which warrior has shunted out because of Dr boom. This is the problem firebrat isn't seeing. Interactive doesn't necessarily mean healthy for the game. I've experimented quite a bit with Luna's as well and even in non-greedy versions you can die to aggro and tempo decks by the time you play it on turn 4/5. It succeeds against any deck that tries to play for middle ground or doesn't have a lot of hard removal which is most decks at the moment.
Then learn how to counter Warrior. There are tons of ways to counter heavy Control Warrior. The opponent of Firebat played the best boom possible: on turn six. He generated a lot of armor as well, hit his card draw and good Mechs early. But he didn't have a chance. And there are many other decks, which counter Heavy Control. Lunas Pocket Galaxy on the other hand is way more annoying to play against, if Mage draws early into it. Only counter to Mage is pure aggro and that's it.
+Alina Kusy You misunderstand. It's not that there isn't ways to counter warrior, it's that it shuts down a tonne of legitimate deck building options because it's on top of the control scene. Some people enjoy climbing, some like myself enjoy the deck building, so warrior is a pain in the butt as far as restrictive deck building goes.
At least there is no consistent way to get Luna's and you still have a chance after it's played. True it's game breaking when you're able to cast it on turn 5 without consequence and draw into high cost minion cards, but it's not consistent and cannot be relied upon. There are greedy lists that target control warrior simply because control warrior is a good portion of the ladder, but greedy versions will always be kept down by aggro if it ever comes too prominent. It's bad for the game, but I still reckon warrior is worse because of their consistency and dr boom is a big part of that.
The current state of mage is pretty disgusting. Pocket Galaxy, Conjurer's Calling...
Extreme highroll potential and super-high tempo turns up the whazoo. Regardless of how powerful or not it may be, I would rather play against a dozen quest shamans and control warriors than against a single mage. It just is not fun to lose to a turn 6 1-mana 5/5 that casts a flamestrike, or a turn 4 8/8 that spawns behind a wall of 2 taunts and if you do not kill it instantly it turns into 2 or 3 8/8s.
Why not just set it back to 7 mana. Nobody played it at 7 mana right? So it's kinda like removing it from the game, except people can still meme with it.
But that makes them look stupid. Nobody wants to admit mistakes!
I know Luna's Pocket Galaxy is a bad card, but fuck Control Warrior. Boring to watch, and torture to play against. DBMG is a shit card. Being able to discover mechs, rush for every mech, and the best armor up HP. Respectfully disagree with Firebat, Dr. Boom is what makes Control Warrior straight up cancer.
But ur deck suck vs pocket galaxy on 5 turn
"non-interactive cards aren't fun" plays exodia
pocket galaxy will be fun if they nerf conj. I dont want blizzard going back with a buff
They should just completely change its effect like they did with Unleash the Hounds. I would like three of a special set of cards like Ysera. That would be fun and fit the name.
@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana i honestly dont understand what you are refering to.
So firebat thinks dr boom hero is completely balanced?! Tsk tsk tsk...! Because of dr boom other cards LIKE pocket galaxy have to be made to contest it brugh... its the root of all that you dont like about hearthstone.. trust meh! Kek!
He didn't say that. Use your ears
Wall Chicken this was more of a joke, than anything.. to be honest.. couldn’t you tell? Lul!
@@styxxhs8048 He's just blindly raging about ctr wari, it's ok.
Mana discounts and uninteractable cards are unfun
*runs mana discounts and Malygos in a deck*
Pocket galaxy is mad stupid, not trying to start beef just thought the timing was funny
the problem with boom is that every deck that counters it is unplayable aggainst aggro. So yeah he needs a nerf because he is absolutely toxic to the game. Maybe putting brawl on hall of fame or something like that
Wait, you're complaining about non-interactable combos while playing maly combo druid? wow. I love you FB but wow.
There are disruption cards you can tech in against maly druid. Pulling spells or minions out of their deck/hand ruins the combo. No disruption tech works against galaxy. Only thing I can think of is a counter spell and the other player is an idiot/has no choice but to play into it.
@@danielgregg sometimes. but like 50% of the time there has been no interaction with maly combo druid.
@@pinballwitch5256 That's still better than no real ability to interact whatsoever. Galaxy is so good right now that you basically always keep it on mulligan, other than against the most aggressive decks. Also, I think the other compounding issue is the conjurer's package/Tortollan Pilgrim. Big tempo swings, and Pilgrim ups the consistency of the deck.
These broken mechanics that ignore the rule of two either for duplications or mana reduction ruin the game.
Pocket galaxy lets you turn a 100+ mana deck into ~30 mana
Turn 6 , 1 mana cost King Phaoris insta board fill will make me quit the game.
Then we should start with prismatic. In that deck you can have 2 copies of the card, guarantees you the phaoris and a 10 spell, and you can use it in turn 5.
I've been playing Burn Shaman and I don't really think any nerfs are necessary yet. Luna's is a great sign on 5 when I'm playing cause that usually means they're dead.
Maybe it's more about the matchup.
For warrior, Dr Boom can be pretty bad for aggro, but so is warrior in general so I don't really mind. At least it takes 7 mana to do.
I don't get the hate, I guess.
complains about mana reducing decks while playing a mana reducing deck
Usually love the vids but showcasing this deck against arguably its easiest matchup seems pretty lame, especially with FBat groaning about Pocket's Galaxy for 10 minutes. Gg but this could have been a better video man.
Did the same thing with Combo Hunter
complains about uninteractive cards.. plays druid quest