14:20 the saddest part of this to me is that, in many Native American beliefs, a person buried disconnected from their head wanders blind and can't find their way into the afterlife until reunited. This isn't just disgustingly disrespectful of Geronimo, but distinctly sacrilegious, and while I may be an athiest and don't believe in an afterlife, I do believe in respecting the beliefs of others ( within the bounds they don't harm, enslave or exploit others).
Digging up the remains of anyone is macabre enough. But the sons of the American Elite digging up the bones of one of the greatest Native American heroes, to do fratboy shit, is extra perverse specially for how banal it is. That they aren’t using his skull to contact Moloch, but to jerk off onto it only for mockery somehow makes things double evil to me. Do that for no purpose is the definition of the banality of evil to me, I can’t explain it. Gives me more chills than any bullshit. I would prefer that they were summoning demons, like that at least I can understand and serve a purpose. Life is always darker than what any fiction or conspiracy theory can cook up. Ugh…
Indeed, likely the point of it grotesquely, and speaking of, not that anyone here needs reminding, but I think Mt.Rushmore speaks well to such intentional disrespect, in addition to reminding us the palimpsest of history reified by such monuments to thieves; the US "treaty" with the Sioux in the Black Hills immediately reneged upon discovering gold there of course, shocker, along with constructing a literal façade over that history with good 'ol Mt.Rushmore, attempting to transform in our minds the demonic arcons of our past into benevolent deities. On a different (literal) note, enjoy the song Geronimo by Thank You Scientist. Actually, shit, I almost forgot, the song Little Snakes by Protest the Hero is about exactly what I was talking about with Mt.Rushmore and such, if anyone likes unnecessarily complicated prog metal shit.
What America did to natives is disgusting but not for the mystical afterlife reason you're upset about, you're basically an evangelical with an albeit unique twist
watch the clip of HW giving the eulogy at President Fords funeral. at one point, its so bizarre, he brings up the JFK assassination and gives the most obvious dupers delight tell in history. he says “and a lone, deluded gunman...” and LAUGHS. its wild
Holy shit the offshore oil rigs are like mother base in metal gear solid and HW is like big boss who’s clone solidus snake (bush jr) becomes president and pretty much all of mgs2 predicts post 9/11 America
Great to see Bush getting the "attention" he deserves. He seems to pop up everywhere when you start digging a bit deeper into 20th century American history.
I thought he was a varsity cheerleader, though.... I can imagine Poppy in his dotage saying something like this to W., who would have the same reaction that Tony had. Regardless your comment is brill.
hey boys, im drunk and feeling great. if anyone wants a copy of the book this ep is based on, Family of Secrets, i will buy it for the first of you to reach out. its a great read and i want all the homies to read and prosper. hmu fellas, I'm serious
In the sopranos - tony b. and tony s. have the same first name similar to George hw and George d. -Tony b kills Joey peeps and the only person who knows for a fact it was tony b. is tony s. -Tony soprano has a dream where he’s being chased by an angry mob and there is a man in a window with a rifle who is almost certainly supposed to be lee harvey Oswald -tony b goes into hiding for fear of being killed by his former colleagues and calls tony s for help, subsequently revealing his location -tony s then shows up at tony b’s and KILLS HIM VIA SHOTGUN BLAST TO THE HEAD (Thinking back there’s a ton of jfk references in season 5)
Bush was likely an agent but not an officer of the CIA. It is an important but rarely noted distinction. An officer is an employee of the CIA. An agent is someone an officer has recruited for a task or series of tasks. They can be anything from a taxi driver in a foreign country to an oil executive in Texas. They provide services of some kind. Bush could have been able to provide inside information about goings on in the Middle East and Caribbean through his oil interests, Joseph P. Trentos book Prelude to Terror makes the case that he provided offshore oil platforms for use by the CIA for spying on Cuba and perhaps even for CIA-trained Cuban exiles to launch attacks from - one was 'lost' in a storm with no evidence and the insurance company paid out without any investigation. An agent may work out of ideology, or for money, or for an oil executive inside information they could use.
The big conspiracy is the comingling of intelligence with business interests. It is a bit meandering and lacking focus but Joseph Trentos book Prelude to Terror is a good read about this.
Especially when you consider that a lot of those "business interests" involved organized crime going back to Prohibition era with the Caribbean smuggling routes into the 1950s with massive investments in Cuban gambling. On the very day that Kennedy finally greenlit the Bay of Pigs, Bobby Kennedy had Carlos Marcello, the powerful mob boss of New Orleans, kidnapped and dropped into Guatemala. The relationship between intelligence and "business interests" has been very close for a very long time.
What if Oswald was an intelligence agent, remember that in the Marines he received training for radar operation and Russian language - and then promptly left to go to the USSR. Was this a crash program? Was he sent in as a double agent, to feed them false information and come back with the real goods? After he had completed that job and returned to the USA, with a Russian wife whose uncle was high up in Soviet intelligence btw, did Navy Intelligence hand him over to the FBI to continue to work as an agent? Did the FBI send him to infiltrate pro-Castro groups? Did he perhaps come to genuinely believe in the Cuban cause? Desiring to cover up that they created Oswald and set him on his path would explain their desire to cover up so much.
The ships are probably coincidences. Houston was a big city that was booming at that time and was the last name of an American folk hero, and Barbra was a common name. I sincerely doubt they would put deliberate references to their shady dealings on a random ship.
These sickos absolutely cannot help themselves from this sort of shit. It's the zodiac killer writing the police like 'i gave you every clue you need mr. police officer"
Man a whole generation of people taking Chapo as wisdom equating Caro's book to Bush... It should be obvious to anyone who has read the book these things are about two different spheres of power, and Chapo just stumping about "muh Bush" is such a distraction...
It's not homophobia to note that secret societies, armies etc often use homoerotic activity to induct newcomers into a trusted group. Stop looking for reasons to be offended - get mad about the horrendous things George H W Bush probably did instead of focusing on the delivery of that information.
god this episode rules
14:20 the saddest part of this to me is that, in many Native American beliefs, a person buried disconnected from their head wanders blind and can't find their way into the afterlife until reunited. This isn't just disgustingly disrespectful of Geronimo, but distinctly sacrilegious, and while I may be an athiest and don't believe in an afterlife, I do believe in respecting the beliefs of others ( within the bounds they don't harm, enslave or exploit others).
Check out Stewart Lee's bit on Americans
Digging up the remains of anyone is macabre enough. But the sons of the American Elite digging up the bones of one of the greatest Native American heroes, to do fratboy shit, is extra perverse specially for how banal it is. That they aren’t using his skull to contact Moloch, but to jerk off onto it only for mockery somehow makes things double evil to me. Do that for no purpose is the definition of the banality of evil to me, I can’t explain it. Gives me more chills than any bullshit. I would prefer that they were summoning demons, like that at least I can understand and serve a purpose. Life is always darker than what any fiction or conspiracy theory can cook up. Ugh…
Indeed, likely the point of it grotesquely, and speaking of, not that anyone here needs reminding, but I think Mt.Rushmore speaks well to such intentional disrespect, in addition to reminding us the palimpsest of history reified by such monuments to thieves; the US "treaty" with the Sioux in the Black Hills immediately reneged upon discovering gold there of course, shocker, along with constructing a literal façade over that history with good 'ol Mt.Rushmore, attempting to transform in our minds the demonic arcons of our past into benevolent deities.
On a different (literal) note, enjoy the song Geronimo by Thank You Scientist. Actually, shit, I almost forgot, the song Little Snakes by Protest the Hero is about exactly what I was talking about with Mt.Rushmore and such, if anyone likes unnecessarily complicated prog metal shit.
What America did to natives is disgusting but not for the mystical afterlife reason you're upset about, you're basically an evangelical with an albeit unique twist
The Lebron of the Deep State.
So... the rapist of the deep state?
Tf are you talking about?
Unfortunate he wasn't Kobe instead 🚁🚁 💥💥💥 ☠️☠️☠️
Me before watching this vid - "Eh, I doubt Bush killed Kennedy".
Me after watching this vid - "Oh shit, HW killed Kennedy."
watch the clip of HW giving the eulogy at President Fords funeral. at one point, its so bizarre, he brings up the JFK assassination and gives the most obvious dupers delight tell in history. he says “and a lone, deluded gunman...” and LAUGHS. its wild
They didn't mention this but when Seal Team 6 "got him" Osama's code name was Geronimo. Just a nice little historical synchronicity there.
Deeply, deeply evil. Not a soul of that family will enter the kingdom of God.
@K H That's the church, on this side of the grave.
I hope they put out part 2 for losers like me
Holy shit the offshore oil rigs are like mother base in metal gear solid and HW is like big boss who’s clone solidus snake (bush jr) becomes president and pretty much all of mgs2 predicts post 9/11 America
Im surprised Felix didn't mention it
Say what you will about Kojima, man knows his US history.
Holy shit
also theres explicit comparisons between big boss and che guevara. even having characters gush over how amazing El Che was.
Known fact that felix is a fake gamer girl
Knights of Malta mentioned around 59:00 is also an organisation that frequently crops up in various TrueAnon episodes. What a coincidence!!
Great to see Bush getting the "attention" he deserves. He seems to pop up everywhere when you start digging a bit deeper into 20th century American history.
There’s gonna be a second season of Blowback? Hell yeah
SPEAK ABOUT DESTRUCTION
the new season's out now, who listened to it
@@derekcapri8899 Giving me a whole new perception of how badly 60s counterculture abandoned labor.
it was good but not as good as the first season
@@richarcher499 best theme for a podcast
Read my lips: I'm gay
Probably the best episode ever
This is a weird Xenoblade 2 let's play.
They're playing in the original japanese, that might explain it
I don't know about the Wimp Factor, but Poppy never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Next to the homey gravitas, well rehearsed, of Ronnie, Bush's chattering delivery and lack of body awareness, certainly fit the definition of "Wimp."
I thought he was a varsity cheerleader, though.... I can imagine Poppy in his dotage saying something like this to W., who would have the same reaction that Tony had. Regardless your comment is brill.
Please drop number 2 this is gold
They did its great
@@coreygolphenee9633 what episode number???
@@walrusgumbootable i believe 497
I still feel burnt that this wasn't even nominated, much less win, a Single Webby Award.
This video randomly played for me a minute or two of silence, and jesus... those laughs at the beginning will haunt my dreams.
Here because Ben Norton plugged this episode in his livestream with Yasha Levine and Max B. on Monday. Fascinating episode.
he's the cigarette smoking man from the x files
So all the Bushes and the rest can fit in one nut-filled coffin...how economical!
Biggest letdown ever is you guys not naming this episode "Daddy"
Bill Mitchell is our dad now (2016), though that might have expired in 2020. 🤷♀️
Why daddy? Didn’t bush jr call him poppy?
great episode
Anyone know the name of the JFK ep they reference multiple times?
@@ii121 thank you! came here for this
I'm Poppy.
hey boys, im drunk and feeling great. if anyone wants a copy of the book this ep is based on, Family of Secrets, i will buy it for the first of you to reach out. its a great read and i want all the homies to read and prosper. hmu fellas, I'm serious
I'd love to read it
I'd be ecstatic to get a copy of the book, it sounds fantastic. I'm always looking to read something new!
Makes sense that Rogan and Thiell’s entire IDw crew ended up in Austin
In the sopranos
- tony b. and tony s. have the same first name similar to George hw and George d.
-Tony b kills Joey peeps and the only person who knows for a fact it was tony b. is tony s.
-Tony soprano has a dream where he’s being chased by an angry mob and there is a man in a window with a rifle who is almost certainly supposed to be lee harvey Oswald
-tony b goes into hiding for fear of being killed by his former colleagues and calls tony s for help, subsequently revealing his location
-tony s then shows up at tony b’s and KILLS HIM VIA SHOTGUN BLAST TO THE HEAD
(Thinking back there’s a ton of jfk references in season 5)
I do hope that the Chapo crew addresses the really nasty member of the family: Barbara ("Rhymes with rich") Bush.
I missed the epsteinbrain / pete spookigieg episode format. Guess I should listen to Blowback already.
The EisenNixonHower sounds like a WWII German war machine. Talk about getting gestaltzerfall….
Jakarta Method
Great book ngl 😎👍
Bush was likely an agent but not an officer of the CIA. It is an important but rarely noted distinction. An officer is an employee of the CIA. An agent is someone an officer has recruited for a task or series of tasks. They can be anything from a taxi driver in a foreign country to an oil executive in Texas. They provide services of some kind. Bush could have been able to provide inside information about goings on in the Middle East and Caribbean through his oil interests, Joseph P. Trentos book Prelude to Terror makes the case that he provided offshore oil platforms for use by the CIA for spying on Cuba and perhaps even for CIA-trained Cuban exiles to launch attacks from - one was 'lost' in a storm with no evidence and the insurance company paid out without any investigation.
An agent may work out of ideology, or for money, or for an oil executive inside information they could use.
Bush was he director of the CIA under Ford
@@bunyipz2040
Started Zapata oil company in 1953.
The word you meant to type 15 times is 'asset'
Is there a part two?
Dresser inc just makes me think of black cabinets, secret spook groups
The big conspiracy is the comingling of intelligence with business interests. It is a bit meandering and lacking focus but Joseph Trentos book Prelude to Terror is a good read about this.
Especially when you consider that a lot of those "business interests" involved organized crime going back to Prohibition era with the Caribbean smuggling routes into the 1950s with massive investments in Cuban gambling.
On the very day that Kennedy finally greenlit the Bay of Pigs, Bobby Kennedy had Carlos Marcello, the powerful mob boss of New Orleans, kidnapped and dropped into Guatemala.
The relationship between intelligence and "business interests" has been very close for a very long time.
What's it called when your government is indistinguishable from corporations..??
What if Oswald was an intelligence agent, remember that in the Marines he received training for radar operation and Russian language - and then promptly left to go to the USSR. Was this a crash program? Was he sent in as a double agent, to feed them false information and come back with the real goods? After he had completed that job and returned to the USA, with a Russian wife whose uncle was high up in Soviet intelligence btw, did Navy Intelligence hand him over to the FBI to continue to work as an agent? Did the FBI send him to infiltrate pro-Castro groups? Did he perhaps come to genuinely believe in the Cuban cause? Desiring to cover up that they created Oswald and set him on his path would explain their desire to cover up so much.
Yes
We can all take some solace in the fact that not even the Republicans like the Bush presidencies now adays.
Do you guys have any book reccomendation on this?
They're reading from Family of Secrets by Russ Baker.
Is that Dick Cavett in the intro?
Sure is!
@@williamsircin6025 that sucks, I kinda like Dick Cavett
@@williamsircin6025 Wait what? Maybe I just dont get the joke but thats Bush talking to Wallace
@@toosexyformyglasses oh shit, yes, true, never mind
@@toosexyformyglasses Maybe I was thinking of when Cavett turns into Freddy Kruger in Dream Warriors
I wonder if these guys have read Carl Oglesby's book The Yankee & Cowboy War. I've always wondered about Bush's place in that conflict.
Lol Felix Loves to call Silver Spring MD “Silver Springs”
Radiator Springs Maryland
Suburban Fatso & Weekend Operator starring Steven Segal
Poppy is basically Hawkeye
Love and greetings from Zanzibar, leader of the free world.
The main reason they were able to win was " Russia" to a much larger extent than oil?!!! Lol
What Americans play both side colored me shocked.
Which Chapo episode is the one that Felix references in the beginning as covering their theories on the JFK assassination?
345 - The Conspiracy Files: The Deep-ly Gay State.
@@hugoshlim thank you!!
@@hugoshlimthank you thank you ❤❤❤
We have shelter for any and all true Chapistas out there, down here in Corona-free Tanzania!
As Chapo groupies, you never know what other foul diseases we carry!
Why the fuck can this not be played in the background?
just download the podcast
These families are still around and into biotech industry big time
The ships are probably coincidences. Houston was a big city that was booming at that time and was the last name of an American folk hero, and Barbra was a common name.
I sincerely doubt they would put deliberate references to their shady dealings on a random ship.
These sickos absolutely cannot help themselves from this sort of shit. It's the zodiac killer writing the police like 'i gave you every clue you need mr. police officer"
dont hastle the dead boys
"its not a conspiracy" -- goes on to describe a conspiracy lmao
Why do they all have speech impediments
That's what liberalism will do to you
Golden Age? Berserk reference?
You've got anime on the brain boy
Really?
Man a whole generation of people taking Chapo as wisdom equating Caro's book to Bush... It should be obvious to anyone who has read the book these things are about two different spheres of power, and Chapo just stumping about "muh Bush" is such a distraction...
Meh on the homophobia at 15:23.
"fellas is it gay to JO in a skull in front of other fellas"
phew! for a minute there, I was getting worried that David Roush might not be a better person than others - v reassuring!
also, don’t you hate it when felix does a anti-semitism at 17:45 ?? super-duper uncool
lol ok
It's not homophobia to note that secret societies, armies etc often use homoerotic activity to induct newcomers into a trusted group. Stop looking for reasons to be offended - get mad about the horrendous things George H W Bush probably did instead of focusing on the delivery of that information.