Beyond Good and Evil #3: One Ruling Thought (I.17-II.25)

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  • @alexanderleuchte5132
    @alexanderleuchte5132 Год назад +38

    It is so refreshing to see somebody not regurgitating the usual pompous platitudes that sadly characterize most videos about Nietzsche on YT but who really enjoys engaging with the intellectual finesse of his writings, i'm glad i stumbled upon this channel

  • @whoaitstiger
    @whoaitstiger Год назад +8

    Nietzsche's level of self reflection was so developed that his thinking almost resembles a committee at times. His ability to continuously keep himself on check and generate contrarian perspectives seems to have come as close as it possible to come to transcending the drawbacks of individuality. What a truly remarkable intellect he possessed, it never ceases to amaze me!

    • @buglepong
      @buglepong Год назад

      on the other hand, committees are schizophrenic

    • @-Llama_95
      @-Llama_95 5 месяцев назад +1

      Well said. He is-we are-after all, a multiplicity.

  • @deebaker9199
    @deebaker9199 Год назад +5

    Everything about this channel is total gold to me, so greatful. I listen every night that i can...in my three years of sobriety its been a total pleasure i look forward to before slumber 😊🙌 i love reading the comments too. Thankyou so much! ❤

  • @gingerbreadzak
    @gingerbreadzak 8 месяцев назад +3

    00:00 🧠 Nietzsche challenges the idea that the thinking subject or ego is the condition of thought, emphasizing that thoughts arise when they wish, not when we will them.
    01:09 🧠 Nietzsche criticizes the habit of attributing an agent or doer to every action, turning dynamic processes into fixed entities, which he calls the "superstitions of logicians."
    11:28 🤔 Nietzsche discusses the persistence of the theory of Free Will, despite being refuted many times, suggesting that its charm lies in its resistance to refutation.
    14:01 🧠 Nietzsche questions Schopenhauer's idea that the will is the most known aspect of human experience, arguing that willing is a complex phenomenon with multiple sensations, including away from, towards, and muscular sensations.
    16:21 🧠 Nietzsche suggests that philosophers often exaggerate popular prejudices and oversimplify complex concepts, such as the will, in their pursuit of philosophical ideas.
    22:10 🧠 Nietzsche questions the causal relationship between conscious thought and muscle movement, suggesting it's more complex than we assume.
    24:15 💭 Nietzsche asserts that every act of the will involves a ruling thought, highlighting the interconnectedness of thinking and willing.
    30:33 🤖 Nietzsche challenges the concept of free will, emphasizing that it arises from the feeling of command and obedience within ourselves.
    39:20 👥 Nietzsche describes the human body as a social structure composed of many "souls" or competing drives and desires.
    43:40 🧩 Nietzsche suggests that philosophical concepts are interconnected and form a system, even when they appear independent.
    44:04 🧠 Nietzsche challenges the traditional view of philosophy, suggesting that it is not a detached, rational process but a result of innate drives and impulses.
    48:00 🔄 Philosophers often revisit similar questions throughout history, such as the struggle to make the will obey itself, indicating a recurring pattern in philosophical thought.
    50:41 🌍 Nietzsche highlights how language and grammatical functions influence philosophical thinking, suggesting that different languages and cultures may lead to diverse philosophies.
    54:07 🔄 Nietzsche challenges the concept of self-caused cause and argues against the traditional notion of free will, emphasizing that the self is a multiplicity influenced by physiological and social factors.
    01:05:50 🧐 Nietzsche suggests that one's perception of free or unfree will is more about self-discovery and personal strength rather than an objective assessment of the world.
    01:18:01 🤯 Nietzsche criticizes how humans simplify and falsify their understanding of the world to enjoy a sense of simplicity and freedom, even at the cost of ignorance.
    Nietzsche highlights the paradoxical coexistence of the "will to knowledge" and the "will to ignorance" as essential elements of human cognition, challenging conventional notions of opposites.
    Nietzsche suggests that our thoughts and perceptions have been conditioned to prefer superficiality and simplicity, enabling us to live with less caution and more enjoyment.
    He emphasizes that human language often oversimplifies complex concepts by framing them as opposites when they exist on a continuum with subtle gradations.
    This aphorism sets the stage for Nietzsche's exploration of the "free spirit" and the complexities of human knowledge and ignorance.
    01:28:32 🤔 Nietzsche discusses how the simplification and falsification of the world, driven by our need for psychological comfort, infects even those who understand better, and how science seeks to maintain this simplified world.
    01:30:11 🧠 Nietzsche views the intellect's creation of erroneous, grand ideas as an expression of our freedom and love for life, despite their falsehood.
    01:32:27 😊 Nietzsche warns against the solemn, dour attitude of martyring oneself for the truth and encourages a more playful, adventurous approach to questioning and exploring knowledge.
    01:35:06 🚀 Nietzsche advises against getting entangled in intellectual wars that cannot be settled through force, leading to resentment and cruelty, and instead suggests embracing solitude and subtlety in the pursuit of knowledge.
    01:49:28 🎭 Nietzsche advocates voluntary solitude and subtlety, encouraging the willingness to deceive or dissemble in intellectual debates to avoid ideological conflicts and personal harm.
    01:51:02 🌳 Nietzsche suggests that removing oneself from ideological competition, metaphorically placing oneself in a garden, can be more productive and creative than engaging in endless disputes.
    01:52:00 🧐 Nietzsche highlights the difference between immoralist free spirits and past philosophers who were solemn dogmatists, emphasizing the importance of enjoying uncertainty and doubt in the pursuit of knowledge.
    01:53:21 📚 Nietzsche argues that every philosophy is a tragedy because philosophers impose their perspectives and moral ends onto the world, leading to endless clashes with other viewpoints and no ultimate resolution.

  • @pirminblum5959
    @pirminblum5959 7 месяцев назад +4

    I really want to thank you. you changed my life.

  • @dashlamb9318
    @dashlamb9318 6 месяцев назад +3

    I fell out of my chair when you mentioned Alan Watts (37:41) and his "Mind Over Mind"! I've been listening to Watts for the last 6 years. To link him with "Good and Evil" (which is all new to me) was amazing. Thanks.

    • @SabineTheHutt
      @SabineTheHutt 2 месяца назад

      Alan Watts isn't as niche as you think he is

  • @whoaitstiger
    @whoaitstiger Год назад +7

    Nietzsche: All debate is futile.
    Philosophers: I disagree.
    🤣

  • @socialswine3656
    @socialswine3656 Год назад +10

    13:50 section 19
    43:26 Section 20
    54:41 Section 21
    1:06:11 Section 22
    1:17:07 Section 23
    1:27:10 Section 24 (Beginning of Part 2: The Free Spirit)
    1:33:27 Section 25

  • @lostinthesestories3082
    @lostinthesestories3082 Год назад +1

    Man I’m currently reading part by part as I watch these videos and it is so helpful. I’ve always wanted to read his work as I learned it inspired many things I love. So finally I decided to start reading and I was almost about to give up reading when it was getting overwhelming (my lack of grasping much if anything) but reading and then right after listening to you Re read it and then analyze is just so nice. Thank you!!

    • @damin1916
      @damin1916 8 месяцев назад

      I am doing precicely the same thing! I already have 25 pages of notes on just these 3 episodes

  • @davinchat2
    @davinchat2 4 месяца назад +1

    The subpersonality idea seems like it greatly informed Disco Elysium's skills.

  • @lazyfretter2668
    @lazyfretter2668 Год назад

    Do you consider the nietzsche podcast playlist to be in correct order? (I.e. part 3, 2 and 1 in that order) Is there a way for me to listen in reverse order?

  • @Dylonysus
    @Dylonysus Год назад

    Thanks Keegan, Immensely interesting stuff this may be my favorite episode so far , although I’m only a RUclips viewer so I may have missed a bit that is on Spotify. I’ll be returning to this to take notes in depth so much insight in this episode

  • @BreezeTalk
    @BreezeTalk Год назад +3

    Sir I can thank you so much. Thank you so much.
    Your videos are about some of the best philosophical videos I have found, I am so grateful. They help me navigate my emotional intelligence which in turn helps with my IQ CQ and the rest.
    Thank you so much, again. You help me achieve my goals short and long term which brings happiness and peace amongst all my friends, family, and acquaintances.
    Saveself99

  • @andrewbowen2837
    @andrewbowen2837 Год назад +1

    It's interesting his ideas on how thoughts themselves are out of human control. It echoes Hume somewhat, when he said reason is and must always be a slave to the passions. Jonathan Haidt has pursued this in psychology and came up with social intuitionism, where you have gut reactions to stimuli, and then you rationalize your decision afterwards. Nietzsche seems to be on a similar wavelength

  • @nickstebbens
    @nickstebbens 11 месяцев назад +1

    to Will something IS to choose it - the 'Will to Power' is in my mind really the Will to Will - the faculty of making happen that which one chooses to make happen, and all choices have their costs

    • @nickstebbens
      @nickstebbens 11 месяцев назад

      reality, according to the cartography of the frontier of the human faculty of physics at this time, does actually have a framerate, namely, what has been called the Planck-second, or as I call it, the universe (the most basic unit of material sequence - uni as in one, verse as in utterance; what is commonly called 'the universe' by laypeople is, in a more technical evaluation: 'all that which has been created by use of the universe' and more correctly referred to as 'the cosmos')

  • @isaacbarratt854
    @isaacbarratt854 Год назад

    At the 40 min mark approximately: you discuss commanding and the feelings of power that accompany it, but are these feelings of power not feelings of power but rather feelings of correctness for knowing what to expect?
    For example: if i throw this stone and aim to 'hit you where it hurts' and after the first throw indeed the stone hits you where it hurts, the affirmation i feel is one of being correct and not of commanding.
    Now after some practice i develop a degree of expertise: i feel as though i have refined the degree of control over my muscles and tendons to the extent whereby i can command them, but am i actually commanding or am i merely expecting?

    • @isaacbarratt854
      @isaacbarratt854 Год назад

      And so: you discuss this economy of vitality that we somehow command.
      what if: as opposed to commanding all we do is inhibit or promote specific recources within this economy to thereby reduce any incongruencies.
      Eg. If it is good to save money it is costly to be compassionate thereby we make an adaption to the economy of recources at our disposal that seem to flood, as it were, from a resovour of vitality into an outlet called action.
      At full vitality all the recources at our disposal flood into the outlet we call action: but when we want to remove the affect of compassion from our action consiquencially we limit our own feelings of vitality but we never command. Seemingly we place a tarrif on types of affect to limit its influence.
      Like with train tracks: we can pull a lever to augment the direction of the machine on the tracks to ensure it doesnt collide with other trains but we do not 'command' the trains.
      We direct the trains and only if things go as expected we confuse this affirmation of being correct with that of commanding and having 'control of'

    • @isaacbarratt854
      @isaacbarratt854 Год назад

      Affects have perameters of application:
      Anger: we experience resistance when attempting to harm something of value (abraham and isaac)
      Hate: you cant hate something unless it is equal or better than you (beyond good and evil)
      Sadness: is a type of surprise and useful only because it brings into the perifery of our foreground an awareness that concerns the integrity of an ego structure that connot be directly observed. We explain and make adjustments to the ego structure until the sadness goes away, thereby we are convinced that the repairs made are sufficient. Sadness gone? Software update complete.
      Sadness has perameters of application? Well, in what ways is it useful?
      How do you get a drive like anger to do something that it does not want to do: for example, how do i use anger to harm something of value? Revaluate the thing of value as worthless and now you have removed the resistance that previously placed limitations upon your horizon of possibilities
      And so: exactly what is valuation? It helps us direct a flow of energy. The economy of energy has rules and a hierarchy. Discover the rules of this hierarchy and we have control? No, we merely know what to expect

  • @gus8310
    @gus8310 Год назад +1

    Im just starting to delve into Nietzsche. Would you recommend reading him in any order or to read other thinkers before reading him? I am somewhat familiar with some of his ideas but they are purely surface level. I am also starting to read Dostoyevsky and have heard they are quite similar

    • @darillus1
      @darillus1 Год назад +2

      Dostoyevsky is more considered a psychologist than a philosopher, Nietzsche does touch on psychology for sure, but is more known for his philosophical insights and Socratic questioning. would recommend starting with On the Genealogy of Morality and The Joyous Science, before reading Beyond Good and Evil and Human, All Too Human, and then you may dare to try Thus Spoke Zarathustra!

    • @gavaniacono
      @gavaniacono Год назад +2

      My suggestion would be Birth of Tragedy. It's like a foundation for the rest.
      He moved along from theme to theme so much, it would be difficult to underdstand how he gets there without some attention to chronology, imo.

    • @gus8310
      @gus8310 Год назад +2

      @@darillus1 perfect thank you for your insight. I have started reading human all too human and I find it so fascinating the “moral maxims” that he writes similar to la Rochefoucauld they are so eye opening and funny to read in a sense that it explains explicitly why we do what we do. I’m definitely looking forward to reading more of Nietzsche and his philosophical insights, I would love to be able to read thus spoke Zarathustra and be able to grasp the content within.

    • @darillus1
      @darillus1 Год назад +1

      @@gus8310 no worries, hope you enjoy your journey into Nietzsche canon.

    • @gus8310
      @gus8310 Год назад +1

      @@darillus1 hey man it’s already been such a mind blowing journey so far in life, can’t believe at 20 I’ve already gotten a head start and what will be a life long journey of introspection and deep thought about our subjective and the phenomena around us. After watching the podcast on schopenhauer I’m already trying to wrap my head around these complex concepts. But they give life so much more meaning and fun, the curious side of me wants to keep digging that drive in me. The pursuit is the goal as in Faust

  • @StevenDykstra-u3b
    @StevenDykstra-u3b 7 месяцев назад

    Best short essay regarding the concept of beyond good and evil is entitled, if memory serves: "Why be moral;? Social contrract theory versus Kantian-Christian morality." Specifically, the concept of power and defection within this essay.

  • @hermitage6439
    @hermitage6439 Год назад +1

    1:47:00 - 1:50:00 the uselessness (or rather pettiness of) debate, something I find to agree, especially since every philosopher I have read from the past has more or less said the same thing (perhaps for different reasons). It becomes a bit fatalistic, but it makes sense.

  • @vikramchatterjee4495
    @vikramchatterjee4495 Год назад +1

    Essentialsalts is a kindred spirit

  • @tonydang4177
    @tonydang4177 7 месяцев назад

    Living Philosophy is the philosophy

  • @billnye8143
    @billnye8143 8 месяцев назад

    30K followers alrighttt ❤❤❤

  • @zerotwo7319
    @zerotwo7319 Год назад

    I wish I had listen to this ideas earlier.
    When he talks about the 'fight of all against all' sounds too much like de description of a complex system.

  • @金鳳娘
    @金鳳娘 Год назад

    Thanks

  • @Collectorp123
    @Collectorp123 6 месяцев назад

    37:56 - i cannot believe you mentioned the 'Mind Over Mind' lecture! You clearly understand shit. I read Nietzsche through the lens of Watts and vice versa constantly.

  • @soybean1535
    @soybean1535 4 месяца назад

    I'm guessing you read nietzsche as an epiphenomenalist?

  • @James-ll3jb
    @James-ll3jb Год назад

    Confirned by neuroscience in the '80s!

  • @ArmwrestlingJoe
    @ArmwrestlingJoe 11 месяцев назад

    1:17:00

  • @EternalMetaphor
    @EternalMetaphor Год назад

    😮

  • @ArmwrestlingJoe
    @ArmwrestlingJoe 11 месяцев назад

    22:00

  • @ArmwrestlingJoe
    @ArmwrestlingJoe 11 месяцев назад

    47:00

  • @carlyellison8498
    @carlyellison8498 Год назад

    21:47 satiety

    • @kdot78
      @kdot78 Год назад

      what about it?

    • @carlyellison8498
      @carlyellison8498 Год назад

      ​@@kdot78- satiety has 4 syllables, not 5.

    • @darillus1
      @darillus1 Год назад

      @@carlyellison8498 yes its pronounced suh-tai-uh-tee, tomato or tomatoe he's not that far off really

    • @carlyellison8498
      @carlyellison8498 Год назад

      @@darillus1 - he mispronounced it and increased its syllable content by 25%. Quite egregious, I'm afraid.

    • @sanjie8324
      @sanjie8324 Год назад

      @@carlyellison8498 nah what

  • @ahmedmahmud4238
    @ahmedmahmud4238 6 месяцев назад

    I Dont get it, if Nietszche is correct about there being no causa sui, 😂 then his arguments are not his arguments... there is no free will then what's his point in arguing 😂. This is silly.

    • @untimelyreflections
      @untimelyreflections  6 месяцев назад +2

      “If there’s no free will there’s no point in having knowledge, because knowledge of the stove being hot won’t stop me from touching it.”
      the objection doesn’t make any sense

  • @ArmwrestlingJoe
    @ArmwrestlingJoe 11 месяцев назад

    1:35:00