YES! Thank you for making this video. Unfortunately, because I am West African and grew up in the Pentecostal church, Joel Osteen is rather popular among Charismatics. However, when I tried telling my family that basically all Osteen does is never preaching on sin, holiness, etc I was shut down. Thankfully, I will for sure be bookmarking this video to hopefully show to my family sometime in the near future since it is such a CLEAR and straightforward video to grasp. Thanks again! :)
StylinSis3189 it really depends. "Charismatic" is a very very broad term. It's more broad than "Evangelical" and almost as broad as "Christian". I think you mean Word of Faith Charismatics
It's so interesting to see how diverse even Pentecostals can be cuz the Romanian Pentecostal community in the U.S. shuns Osteen. We are very selective of who we quote and who we listen to.
Sharon Murza: Yes that's an interesting point you made. Here's the difference between the two. The difference is that classic Pentecostals study their Bibles and are familiar with basic Bible doctrines, whereas, Charismatics that live on emotions and whatever sounds new. They also don't study their Bibles and lack basic knowledge about Bible doctrine and can easily accept the watered down, milk toast false gospel that Joel Osteen peddles.
What sin do you think Osteen should be preaching about? Rape? Murder? Fornication? Adultery? Envy? Jealousy? Lusting? Over eating? Covetousness? Revilers? Extortion? Theft?
I was thinking that when Osteen was saying "I am strong." In Christ. "I am prosperous" in Christ. Osteen is missing the "in Christ." in each of those things. Ultimately I am nothing if I am not in Christ.
Andrea Do Santos I agree 100%!! We are only confident in Christ alone! No weapon formed against us shall prosper in Christ Jesus our Lord! He is misleading this congregation!
@The Truth yeah man, we're a little sect offshot from Judaism who believe God was nailed to a cross and died then ressurected after 3 days and if you believe in Him you can have your sins forgiven and have His Spirit live in you which in turn helps you become a better person. Bonus points, we get eternal life too!! Best damn cult out there!!!
@The Truth not sure what your trying to provoke with your comments, but I've become a much better person since I became a Christian than what I was when I didn't believe. So if you want to call it a cult, that's fine. If you want to make bizarre comments about accountability, that's fine. Do what ever you like. I know what I used to be like and I know the person I've become in Christ, and I'm at peace with that change in me. Be blessed The Truth. There's so many beautiful, amazing and wonderful things that can happen in life, even if you never join our cult I hope you find something akin to the joy, peace and love I have found.
I sat under Keith Kraft of Elevate Life Church, who partnered with Joel in 2010 while constructing his cathedral in Frisco Tx. I was still a babe in the faith and didn't know anything about theology or sound doctrine. Long story short, I was told to tithe and constantly heard prophecies by Keith to the congregation of coming prosperity. That tithing led me to a car repossession, and ultimately unable to return to the church. Long story short, sometimes the lack of prosperity is a blessing.
"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." --2nd Timothy 4:3
Over ten years ago my church pianist asked me why I couldn't preach like Osteen. I thought she was kidding, but she was dead serious. I said, "Because I can't even stand to look at him." Then I realized she was serious. My church would be a lot bigger if I preached like him, but would it really be a church?
Christians dont need churches nor preachers period! Only the lazy Christians go to churches to hear preachers regurgitate the bible to them. Christians need to pick up the bible and study it for themselves. The Holy Spirit is our greatest teacher but people wont turn to God when studying the bible. They dont pray for Wisdom and for understanding.
Adam Goodword I agree with you that followers of the Lord Jesus don’t need church as we’ve known it the past 5-6 centuries. We need the biblical assembling od the called out ones, the congregation of the Lamb, where everyone is exercising their spiritual gifts for the edification of all.
Mike McGuire Ministries WHAT? Preach like Osteen? But he is CLEARLY preaching the words of Satan! How sad so many are deceived by this servant of Satan! Truly the path that leads to life is narrow and not many find it. I wish they are more preachers like John MacArthur.
As Spurgeon said 'A sermon without Christ is like a loaf without flour' Certainly the NT prophecies about false teachers are fulfilled. 2 Peter 2:3 says 'And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.'
I was about to post that, and I scroll down and what is the first comment? This. When Osteen started with his "I am" this and "I am" that, I just cringed... no no NO. God is the "I Am". It's almost as if Osteen is trying to put himself in God's shoes which is a lot of false prophets do. EDIT: Oi. Watched a few more minutes, and oi. Speaking words to affect reality, to create... yes.. that's... God's power. That's not something that *we* do. That's 100% pure blasphemy for Osteen to say that *we* can speak words and they become reality. God spoke the universe into existence, God's Words change reality. We are not God and I'd have to say that's the biggest blasphemy ever, or one of them, to even imply that men can do the same.
@@Dhalin What are you on about? I admit that Osteen has questionable theology but this statement shows how little bible knowledge you have. Jesus made it clear that we have power and authority in his name to claim powerful things (may it be good or bad so we ought to say good things) So Jesus answered and said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ it will be done. And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.” Matthew 21:21-22 This may only be blasphemous when you try to do these things by your own might but under the name and authority of Jesus, we receive huge power. Educate yourself more on the Word so you dont sound ignorant. God bless
@@JohnDoe-gw6ww There's one problem here. Osteen is teaching that *YOU* are the one doing these things just by your own power of your own voice. What Christ is talking about in the Bible is undying Faith in *GOD* that *GOD* will do these things if you ask Him to. When Christ says that one who has enough Faith can say to a mountain 'be removed and cast into the sea' it's not the believer's power that accomplishes this, but rather God Himself that would lift the mountain and throw it into the sea. Osteen says no such thing about God, and in fact, he doesn't mention God at all in his entire sermon other than the intro and the outro. The rest of it is telling you to worship yourself because you're so awesome if you keep telling yourself that. Osteen is telling you to call yourself "I am" rather than letting God by the "I am" and you asking God humbly and faithfully to do things for you. Christ taught that if you have undying Faith _in God,_ you can ask Him and He will answer. Meanwhile, Osteen is telling you to be the exact opposite of humble, Osteen is actually pushing narcissism and self-absorbency. Look yourself in the mirror and go "I am awesome" ... no, we are not awesome. God Is. Everything we have, is thanks to God. Where in Osteen's sermon did Osteen ever say that we should get on our knees before God and thank Him for everything we have?
The truth that’ll never be making money on television: I am not enough. I look in the mirror and I know somethings wrong. Ive taken an inventory of everything inside me and I find so many mistakes. I find sin in my heart and a hole that no wealth, addiction, or person can satisfy. Because of this I need Jesus Christ. He is enough and he is perfect. He overflows the hole inside me and he makes me righteous and perfect in God’s eyes because of his shed blood. But me? No, no, no the hard truth is I am nothing and not enough, but with Jesus I have the hope of being in a world where there is no sin and brokenness. In this world, we have to suffer and sacrifice and die daily to avoid the evil path of sin. There is nothing I can do to be enough or to do right, except accept Jesus and let him change my heart inside. The truth is the world is still going to be broken and so are we until we meet our creator.
You think Jesus wants sin and a big whole in your heart? He died and rose again so that we have life and it more abundantly and you do that by preaching the gospel your not supposed to preach the gospel with a heart full of sin your supposed to repent and see Gods goodness and then youbwant to preach the gospel to everyone
Appreciate your boldness and courage in calling out a sermon and preacher like this in an intelligent, reasoned, and loving way. This is not mean-spirited, but for the good of the church.
It doesnt take much courage to make a youtube video being negative about somthing positive and maybe joel osten might lack in telling people how bad they are but hes still preaching truth
And it seems funny that so many Americans embrace it, since the average American consumes twice as much as we do in my country New Zealand, and yet believers there still are not content. Godliness with contentment is great gain.
Michael NewZealand it’s also heart-breaking. Jesus Himself expressed grief on this issue Mt 23:27.. but these are not believers of Christ because the sheep know His voice. these are believers of joel osteen and other proponents of prosperity preaching which the bible speaks of as well. “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.” (2 Timothy 4:3, NASB) but it’s not like they are mere victims of a false preacher. paul washer was right when he said this is also God’s judgement for choosing for themselves such preachers instead of the truth. on our part we can only mourn for this tragedy, pray for God’s mercy, and preach the true gospel in love.. hoping such prosperity teaching will not corrupt the gospel in new zealand brother! Godliness with contentment is great gain indeed!
Thanks Miguel for your reply. Sadly the prosperity gospel has spread to so many churches and believers, not always in it's fullest form but subetly sometimes too - not just in NZ but everywhere. And I even know many born again believers who buy into it as least partially. It's because if someone asks you the question "Does God want you to be sick or well?" or "Does God want you to be rich or poor?" most people will say well and rich and hence logically the prosperity gospel seems to follow. And technically when the Lord establishes his kingdom fully in righteousness then there will be no sickness or death, but until then "in this world you will have trouble, but take heart I have overcome the world". If believers would think about the persecuted church in parts of the world and ask how the prosperity gospel applies to them, then I think they could see better to reject it. It is interesting though that you mention Paul Washer in contrast to Joel Osteen. Recently Paul himself said that the Lord rebuked him through listeing to Joel Osteen.
Michael NewZealand yeah such preaching will be really effective in persuading all kinds of people, even dare i say sheep. but amen Jesus has overcome the world and nothing is out of His sovereignty. and yep paul washer did say that the Lord used a false preacher to convict him. not because of the content of joel osteen’s preaching but because joel osteen was still very encouraging..
Watch the hand symbolism he uses. He is communicating to his Freemason family. Much more nefarious than just show business. He is teaching self-divinity. A Satanic message.
@The Truth you should probably consider changing you tag. Because of creation, God is evident, so that man is without excuse. God's Word is accurate. Satan exists, the evidence of his existence is quite clear. Yeshua is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Him. To Him be glory, honor and praise forever and ever!
You said Osteen's preaching is not true Christianity. I say it's not even reality! Think about all of our brothers and sisters in persecuted Nations. No matter how much they declare with their mouth something, they're still dealing with living with a system that hates Christians. And the Lord uses our suffering for our good and God's glory, which is completely contrary to Osteen Doctrine.
Prosperity preachers only use the persecuted when they want them as an excuse to squeeze a new jet out of their followers. Creflo Dollar said that the families of the men beheaded in northern Africa, had called him, saying they "needed him there", and that's why he had to raise money for the newer, faster, slicker jet. And we know that when he got it, he never flew there to minister to any suffering, persecuted Christians. The fact is, persecuted and grieving believers in Jesus would not want him around. The devil makes sure that you feell the cruel, satanic mockery in word faith, when you are suffering because you're a believer in Jesus. The prosperity movement makes it clear that their only solution for any kind of suffering people is to "let them get their own faith!" That's what they'd say while passing by on the other side of the road, from the man who fell among thieves, who was left for dead. The 'Jesus" they promote, is a hard-boiled, compassionless copy of themselves, who is only interested in the high rollers. Everything about it is upside down from true, biblical, gospel Christianity, even the Lord. It also shows itself to be much closer to the occult, to the magic and sorcery of "The Secret"/Law of Attraction, or "When You Wish Upon a Star", than having anything to do with Jesus. That hard-boiled, word faith message doesn't apply to them, when they are trying to get people to buy them that new jet, or when they say a 900-ft "Jesus" told them to tell their followers to give them money to save their namesake hospital, or He would kill the pious preacher. Then, "seed faith" just doesn't seem to cut it (even though a billion dollars is not too many seed faith investments away from a mere $1, paying off at 10-fold or 100-fold). The reason that these people do this, is they are self-reprobated unbelievers, conscienceless charlatans, who have no real faith in Jesus at all, and who get something out of mocking God, and delight to get rich selling their followers a cheap substitute for salvation. Their followers are to blame for listening to these wolves, for preferring the cheap substitute to letting the Lord _really_ save them, but these wolves who exploit their dishonesty, are not real brothers or sisters in Christ. They have no fear of God, because they refuse to heed and believe in Him.
Very true. I was thinking about how strong people's faith can be in poorer countries. I realized that wow, the book of Job makes complete sense in those areas.
At first, I was going to leave a humorous comment. He never once mentions Jesus? There’s nothing funny about that. It breaks my heart. Lord bless you, Tim!
What causes me dismay is that these poor people aren't being fed the pure milk of the word. What he gives them is a self-centered message that is not preparing them for eternity. Sad indeed.
I'm happy in the fact that many false teachers are constantly rising and it is a sign of the end times since the word of Jesus is being fulfilled. I am challenged to even be more zealous in preaching the Biblical Gospel of Christ.
I’m not joking when I say this. He doesn’t mention the name of Jesus because Oprah is in his “congregation”, she and many other people there don’t want to believe Jesus is the only way to salvation. I hope Osteen repents before he dies
We should pray for all of our leaders. They will be judged more harshly. Unfortunately most people don't read their bibles daily. It's up to us to use discernment too.
Haha. I thought to myself I got this, I know what's best for me, then God had to humble and break me multiple times to make realize how wretched I really am and I'm nothing without Him. Thank God for teaching me a lesson.
Being transformed involves renewing the mind, when o first got saved I went along with everybody talking bad about joel but after I really learned alot about what the the bible says I happen to come across one of his sermons and found he is very accurate on the bible and he doesnt even have to stand up there and quote alot of scripture, it's time we not conform to what everybody thinks and take people's (preachers) word for it and look into the bible and find out for ourselves
I need to share this with mum pronto. I have been telling her Joel has been spreading false GOSPEL and now that you have broken it down I will download this video and share it with mum who religiously watches Joel every evening on TV. GOD bless you Tim and may the fire burn to never shut up about the LORD JESUS in HIS body!!!
Bruh!!! *Vinyl needle breaks* WHAT KIND OF NONSENSE IS THAT?!?!?!?! IS SHE CRAZY!?!?!?! DOES SHE KNOW WHO GOD IS??!?!?!?! DOESN'T SHE UNDERSTAND THE TRINITY?!?!?!?! IS SHE CALLING FOR A CURSE? MAYBE SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE CURSE OF THIS BOOK WILL BEFALL ALL WHO MESS AROUND WITH THE LORD'S WORD BOTH IN WRITING AND READING!!!!
Nderitu Pius pls ask your mom to listen to John MacArthur’s sermons. He is preaching the words of God. Joel Osteen is CLEARLY a faithful servant of Satan.
Joe teaches us to be kind, generous, forgiving, doing right all the times. When he said i am prosperous, i am beautiful, i am healthy, etc... he means that AS JESUS IS ABOVE, SO ARE WE IN THE WORLD. We are created in the image of God. We are the righteouness of God in Christ. Jesus already died for our sins. He alread redeemed us. Why do we still want to be called sinners, weak, sick when all our sins are already forgiven, hence we are healed. To say that we are sick, poor, weak, sinners is an insult to the finished work of Jesus. Yes, with Jesus, the Holy Spirit within us, we are strong, kind, generous, faithful etc... Jesus died and resurrected to give to us what he had, even His riches. Nothing wrong to be rich to help others. God's children cannot be broke and sick. When Joe reminds us all those positive things about I AM, he praises Jesus finished works. We are not worms anymore. We sit in Heaven with God and Jesus. We have the fruit of the Holy Spirit within us: we are, love, peace, joy, kindness, gentleness, faith, patience, self control etc... That is what Joe keeps reminding us at every sermons. Please do not call us weak, sick, sinners anymore. Jesus and God already value us and accept us to His family. I love Joe.Osteen.
I would never raise my Bible and "blindly" repeat after any human being before I knew what what going to be said. Classic example of the blind leading the blind. His congregation found what they want and will be rewarded with what this material world can give them, prayerfully some or most will see the true light is Christ Jesus. Never, not once mentioned the one name by which all are saved and reconciled to the Father...Jesus the Christ. Thank you Father, thank you Jesus
My Bible says “As a man thinks, so is he”. My Bible tells me that I build upon the foundation of Christ. I must build. I must decide to use my talents, my influence, my resources for God’s glory. My Bible says I am fearfully and wonderfully made. It also tells me “in me dwells no good thing”. I am saved by grace but I decide each day to intentionally try to be better for Christ. Joel Osteen’s message lifts me up. Helps me direct my energies. Reminds me of the goodness of God and His many promises and challenges for doing His will in today’s world. I tell my granddaughter every day she is awesome, she is smart, she is cute. What would you think if I told her everyday she is a loser, she is stupid, she is ugly? I’m sowing good seeds into her. What seeds are you sowing and what are you allowing people to sow in your life? Regards Glenn
Thank you for posting this. It makes me sad that so many people have been sucked into this trap. It has been said that the Church is the biggest ministry field and one of the hardest. I was sadly sucked into this way of thinking but thanks be to God I am free from that and see the truth now.
“We do not need an awesome God for salvation. . . We simply need to remember that we ourselves are awesome”!!!! WHAT!!!!????. That is literally idolatry and self-righteousness right there!!!. We DO NEED AN AWESOME GOD, Because He shows His awesomeness and love by dying for us because of our sin and our self-righteousness!! Read your bibles people without the influences of these prosperity teachers! We cannot do things to get to by ourselves, God is the reason we get to live in the first place. This motivational session is for non-believers and secular individuals and groups, because Jesus promises hardship, persecution, difficult times ahead for those who believe and share their gospel with those around us, as well as in certain circumstances be willing to die for him. None of this health, wealth and pursuit of happiness. God gives us our joy and our peace. We do not make it for ourselves, if we try we will fail. Read your bibles people. :)
Yep. You are spot on brother. Mathew 10: 16-42 Jesus already told us that it's not going to be easy and that persecution will come. Jesus Himself was accused of using using the power of the devil to cast out demons and He was called names. We are not to blend into the world and it's culture but we are called to stand out and be the light.
This man preaches all his “sermons” without opening the Bible. And IF he quotes a Bible verse, he quotes it wrong!! It’s hilarious, baffling and sad all at the same time that millions of people faithfully go to his “church” week in and week out.
I Listen to Joel for uplifting not for "churchy reasons" If a person is looking for Jesus, they should not have to have someone translate it to them. they should read the bible each day and let the spirit of learning and growth move them.
Tim, everything you said about Osteen's "The Power of I Am" self-worship pep talk (not a "sermon") applies equally to every single talk he gives--literally. Thank you for this. P.S. You've gotta LOVE Charles Spurgeon!
My paternal grandparents were Christians, but they'd watch people like Reverend Joel Osteen and his ilk on the Trinity Broadcasting Network. I became physically disabled in my early twenties from pelvic floor dysfunction. Untreatable abdominal pain, bloating, nausea, and vomiting, Grandfather and Grandmother blamed me for. I wasn't getting better because I resisted the wrongful diagnosis of psychosomatic disorder. My mother and elder brother also thought I was crazy. Before Grandfather passed, he and I had a strained relationship. It was only afterward that I saw critiques of the then mysterious Osteen. Let me tell you, I'd have reached through the television screen and garrotted the man if such technology were possible. Reverend Paul Washer once said the "pastor" was God's judgement upon the congregation, as most of them wanted comfortable lives instead of our Lord. I agree. Osteen and Oprah Winfrey were/are examples of Satan's agents.
"For I (Paul) determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him crucified." [1 Corinthians 2: 2] "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." [Galatians 1: 8] "See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ." [Colossians 2: 8] ✝️
One of my former roommates is an Osteen fan. What I see in Osteen's appeal is that he addresses the feelings of the bullied members of society. It's really tough to be bullied and feel like the heal of the world is in your face all the time. Sometimes people do just need to be flatly reminded that "you are beautiful" etc. I believe that is the appeal of his pep rallies. Sadly, he isn't taking people much beyond triage and basic first aid in this spiritual war in which they find themselves. To compete with his approach, someone needs to clearly define the power of God and the things He has done and the things He is doing. Academic scripture study fails to address the need for triage and first aid. Academics are only accessible to people whose wounds are not so serious. It's like, people are in foxholes and they don't need platitudes and introspection, they need ammo and armor. I've been in that position and discovered how lacking academia is on the battlefield. I've never cared for Osteen's fluff-talk but there's a world of confused and ignorant people who look to their feelings to validate truth. A smart preacher will reach these people by emphasizing God's power over all and that we haven't got any. "Jesus" is not a magic word...etc.
Hate to hear that this is the final entry of this series. It has truly been great! Thank you for introducing us to these (mostly) incredible, God-exalting sermons. You are a blessing to Christ's church.
Mr. Olsteen is more about the SHAM (Self-Help Actualization Movement) than about Christ which says everyone can be a god if we only believe it. Pray that the true Gospel reaches the heart of Mr. Olsteen and that he seek to glorify God above all.
Thank the Lord He is using you to open the eyes of the lost. Let us choose to love, not just their congregation, but Joel and his wife as well. This is how they will know we are of Christ. I take this as constructive criticism of him and his church, which is great! Let us now pray for them so that they see the love of God and stop preaching false doctrine. The Lord is able to deliver anyone from anything. Pray for them and pray for yourselves, this way you will be filled with the peace of the Father. May the Lord Jesus help them and us. Remember, let he who is without sin cast the first stone ❤️ It is our duty to preach the truth to the world and so they will see for themselves what is true and of the Lord.
Joel is literally preaching Satan's message. Worship yourself, be your own god and call things into existence. He surely knows what he is doing. Yikes.
No he isn’t. He is teaching the truth. God says you are my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased. God says your youth is renewed like eagles. Stop exalting satan and declaring that everybody is preaching his messages. Satan didn’t say “you shall have what you say” - God did, read Mark 11:23 ““For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.” Mark 11:23 Before you start cursing the preacher, go study the word and speak the word.
Euge Z Even Jesus prayed 'not my will but Thy will.' Jesus also said "if anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life (have his best life now) will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit his very self?" And Paul says to Titus under the inspiration of the Spirit that "the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say No to ungodliness and worldly passions and to live self controlled, upright and godly lives... Greed for this world is not godly. Grace teaches us to say No to that. Paul said he poured out his life as a drink offering. Paul told the Corinthians that those among them who buy something should live as if it were not theirs to keep, those who use the things of the world as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away. Thanks for listening as I preach the gospel of enduring wealth. Is this what he preaches? Be a Berean!
Renee Solis Hes just cherry picking versus out of context of their chapter and a whole . Mark 11 23 is a tired and well debunked justification prosperity people use. Jesus didn't promise our best lives now. When these prosperity people get cancer, or fall on hard times. They question their faith and wonder why God didn't give them their healing or worldly riches. Even worse in some of these "churches" the congregation will accuse these people of not having enough faith. How devastating is that. To think if Paul had enough faith he could have removed the thorn right? The apostles died horrible deaths, had bad health, not all rich. They not only had faith but sight. Word faith is heretical garbage that deserves the bin like the rest of new age teaching.
Man I thought "What is Joel Osteen doing in the The Great Sermon Series!!!??" but after watching the first minute I realized what was happening. For a second I thought Tim decided to join the dark side lol Great series tho, keep on working hard in your ministry my brother!
Who are we as human beings? We truly don't know. For 27 years I was not attached to myself. I was not attached to anyone or anything. I excelled at whatever I wanted to do. I believe God created us, gave all the right abilities to do whatever we want to do with them. At 27 I joined a church, by age 32, I'm asking myself a question. Who am I? Religion got me to start looking at myself through a microscope, am I sinning, what did I do that was bad, to me it was a negative experience. My success rate started to come down. My problems that I could once solve or now a challenge. By the time I hit my 40s, I was like the people in the world. Waking up to who what and where to dislike, and like. Since I have gotten away from religion. My peace has returned, my success has returned and I'm much happier today. God created us gave us all the abilities to go into the world to do amazing things. Why would he give us such a strong potential to achieve whatever we want, if we believe we have to ask him for help. Isn't it a oxymoronic practice?
I don't know if I should laugh or cry.. Long ago while I told a friend of mine that I was a bit depressed, he told me to listen to Joel Osteen. I listened to only one sermom. Now I realize why he asked me to listen to this guy's sermons, it is just filled with I am, I am, I am.. JESUS SAYS I am the bread of life, I am the light of the world, I am the gate, I am the good shepherd, I am the true vine, I am the way and the truth, I am the resurrection and the life; Before Abraham was born, IAM. when you have Jesus at the center, why do you need self esteem? John the Baptist said I must decrease so that He might increase. Joel Osteen is deceiving many. So sad!
Whenever I imagine or dream what Satan looks like, it is almost identical to Joel Osteen. No joke. Those beady eyes, false grin, pointy chin, slick hairdo. Terrifying.
I have been in depression and hate myself. I lost my way and stick with my past, that hurt me every time I thinking about it. I'm not loving myself enough. Now I getting better a lot after I listening to him. What do you want he to say? I'm old ,sick, depresses,and have no beauties in me? Or I'm a loser like i alway be?and God not love me ?. God also had done it one told the good new to another people and bad people hate him. Jesus didn't die on the cross so I can be a sinful person, hopeless, ,depression all day and feel like God not love me. This world is getting worse every day we all see it with our own eyes instead of making people more sad and depressed why don't you go out and help them give them the words of God make them stand with hope and love for tomorrow. One in my life I losing hope in every one girl could handle with every day I got depression, now I can stand again and knowing that God love me and I'm wonderfully made by my all mighty God. I can do all thing in Jesus name and he love me. Because of him now I can be who he want me to be strong ,beautiful ,kind and happy .
I ran away from his teachings years ago, because I never heard him say Jesus Christ or Holy Spirit. To add salt to the injury about a year ago, I came across a clip of his interview with Oprah, were he denied Jesus Christ. It became clear to me that he's not a Christian.
First fruits of Zion has an excellent video out, called "Irresistable - answering Andy Stanley's replacement theology " that is very good. You can watch it on RUclips.
What's missing in all those statements is this; I am who I am because OF Jesus. That's the truth for every believer, there is nothing wrong with claiming victory but don't forget the Victor, don't leave the true I AM out of it all. Our praise and worship should always be attributed toward Him and only Him, because apart from Him we can do nothing. David said in Psalm 34:1, I will bless the Lord at all times, His praise shall continually be in my mouth. Notice its His praise, not my praise. The core of the gospel is JESUS and Him alone. I am not against 'positive speaking' but if you leave Jesus out of it, then its 'poisonous speaking'. People are forgetting that all power comes from Him. He gives us the power, we don't give ourselves it, Jesus always reminded His disciples, in order for you to gain your life you need to replace your old life with me (Him), Matthew 16:25, Matt 10:39 & Luke 17:33, because He is the life. In Him we live, we move and we have our being, Acts 17:28. Its easy to quote bible verses (even the devil can do that), but only the (Holy) Spirit of God references and witnesses about the Son of God (the Word) and the Son (Jesus) witnesses about the Father (God). Because they are one and the same 1 John 5:7. So let's not leave Jesus out of our sermons because He came to save us from our sins not to give us material prosperity alone because He said, your life is not consistent with the abundance of things, Luke 12:15. It's His gospel not ours. Amen.
Thank you Tim. I am deeply ashamed to say that my wife and I were fans of Osteen for so many years. Sadly, the many charismatic UK churches were went to also reflected this erroneous theology. Sadly these errors are now a pandemic problem. Your analysis is precisely what I have come to believe after now following the likes of Paul Washer and John MacArthur.
I was almost deceived by the caption and thumbnail. But having recently watched 3 other videos on Paul Washer, John MacArthur and RC Sproul, I looked forward to the analysis. Thank you Tim!
An exceptional presentation of Joel Osteen's false gospel. Despite the time that has passed by since this sermon, his popularity continues to climb; all the more reason for us to warn the sheep to run to the Great Shepherd for protection. Thank you Tim.
I hate that this is how this amazing series is going to retire. it breaks my heart that this is such a prominent message in the 'body' right now. I am however glad that you addressed it with tact and compasion.
I understand the responses of most of the people making comments. In response, I wanted to get a better understanding of the context of the sermon/message/speech of Joel Osteen here. Went to the Lakeland church website. Saw there under the "about" section, that the principles of faith are belief in the Scripture, in the trinity, in salvation through Jesus. Saw the music that points people to Jesus, that elevates His name. I listened to other sermons, in which the message is clearly that God is in control, that we need God and Jesus in our lives, that the answer is Jesus and God in our lives. So I understand the comments about this message - and even the underlying principles - but look, people, at the message of Osteen's church. Look beyond a criticism of this message.
When Joel Osteen was on Oprah, she said she couldn't believe in a God the was jealous, to which Mr. Osteen had no reply. It's unfortunate that he knows neither English nor the nature of the God he professes.
Unfortunately no explained to her that God's love for us is so immense, so deep that He has to restrain Himself from showing it too much too soon because it would overwhelm us. His jealousy is for us not against us. What parent would not risk life itself to free their child from a murderer, a thief, or kidnapper? The devil is all those & more. He is jealous for our love because He knows that His love is unselfish. He loves for our sake not like the devil who just wants to destroy.
@@marketingsimplified Exactly. Oprah interprets 'jealousy" as envy, which it is not. Apparently Mr.Osteen does not know the difference either. Here's hoping and praying that someone explains the difference to her before she experiences the difference between life and death.
This is exactly why I praise the Lord for His gift of Biblical preaching in my church. Osteen worships what is horizontally in his mirror and leads many astray. Brethren, the mirror is dark. Let us seek Christ above and eschew the world that we can read in Colossians 2:16-3:4
we to were once lost and now we're found, we were blind, but now we see...The only truth is to open your bible and read, no other way.....We can not depend on man...I had to learn this the hard way, and a very long road....Please open your bibles...God bless Tim, thank you for sharing...you always provide good sharing, teaching and insight!
My heart is to pray for Joel and Oprah. Lord bring them out of darkness and into Your marvelous light. May they know the Truth (Jesus, the Word made flesh, the Word of GOD) and may the Truth set them free from the lies of the world, the flesh and the devil. In Jesus Christ. Amen.
Amy Augustine God doesn't have youtube!!! 😳😳 I don't get why so many people pray via typed words on a social media chat for all to see!!!! Matthew 6:5-6 ESVB “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
Error 404: Jesus not found! I've really enjoyed this series Tim. It's been a great encouragement to me. Urging me to go back and re-listen to my favourite sermons again. Thanks bro
7.9.20 ~ I am a child of the *Most* *High* *God* &, thus, I take the warning given in *His* *Word* concerning the dangers of false teachers (such as Osteen) seriously. Thank you, Tim, for your enriching teachings! God bless!
Tim Challies Thanks Tim for your review. We ought to exercise discernment, and here through the video you exercise your discernment for this not-so-great sermon. God bless your ministry.
J Lupus if you ignore the news telling you of a flood warning in your area and go on to sleep. Then as you sleep water creeps up your yard. Then starts to creep through the foor & walls & inches turn into feet. Hopefully you arent sleeping deep enough that it covers you & drowns you. Hopefuly you wake up & get out of the house. The house would be counted as a loss but yet you will still be alive a have a chance to get a new house. I ask you please Lupus to at least listen to this video so that you can hear a warning that will hopefuly save your life. I pray you hear & see the truth of The true & living God that sets you free. Wake up my friend so we can meet in heaven. 💞
@@louisaccardi6808 it’s funny because she misunderstood that he was making a cheeky comment and she responded like he enjoyed Osteen and was super serious.
Joel's messages brought me closer to God...too! I will always defend him agst the jealous christians...the nay sayers...the self appointed critics...who WILL stand in judgement for what they say agst him!
Stop listening to him, read the Bible, and see how much of a wretch we are, how unholy and unrighteous we are, and then see how amazing the grace of God is. Would you dare tell a cancer patient to just start getting up in the morning and declaring that they are healthy? That's what he is saying. Would you dare to tell the millions of believers who are being jailed, killed, tortured, and ran out of their home by their own family that all they have to do is declare that they have a loving family and it shall be so? That's what he is saying. You need to ask yourself, which god are you truly serving? The true God of the Bible doesn't care about your self esteem, your health, your wealth. He cares about making you holy as He is holy. He cares about you sacrificing your life to fulfill the great commission. He cares about your eternal spiritual health instead of this small water droplet compared to the vast universe of eternity.
Yes. "Christ died for the weak" so that they may become strong. And He said, "let the weak say I am strong". I believe your intention is good. But you shouldn't make easy and cheap claims like this one. You don't know all of the story. And I'm not even siding with Joel on this. I'm trying to stop you from being a stumbling stone for young believers who are easily carried away. If you think there's something wrong with his message, pray for him. Because for what I know he has a lot of influence so his "repentance" can save thousands. Remain Blessed!
I believe your intention is good, but you shouldn't make cheap and easy claims like this one. You don't know all of the story. And even though I'm totally siding with Tim on this I'm also trying to stop you from being a stumbling stone for young believers who are easily carried away. If you think there's something wrong with his message, then pray for him. Because from what I know he has a wide influence and his repentance will lead many to a better understanding of the truth. Remain blessed! Okay, I didn't mean all of that, but just wanted to show you that Tim is doing to Joel's "sermon" exactly what your doing to his video (you commented critically, instead of simply praying for him). Peace
This is wonderful. Tim, keep up your faithful labor brother. This is teaching people after God's own heart how to exercise discernment according to His Word and not "gut feelings". Lord bless you sir 🙏
Loved it, nailed it! Good job my brother. All so true concerning what Joel preaches. God bless you and keep you while on the battlefield for our Lord Jesus Christ and Wonderful Savior. 😇
This sermon was described as Truly truly terrible Flaming dumpster fire Wretched and little So very very bad X2 Not great Pray for Joel and those sitting under his false teachings.
You both are wrong. We need to talk positive on ourselves but having Jesus as the centre of our confession and Osteen may not have that but this man is leaving out the confession and do not really understand that we have been healed by the stripes of Jesus and therefore I can say I have been healed by the stripes of Jesus because the truth and fact are two different things.
We are healed by his stripes. 1 Pet 2:24. But if you read that you will see it is not refering to physical healing. Isaiah 53:4 is quoted refering to Jesus physically healing a person. Is 53:5 is never quoted in that regard by either Jesus, Paul or Peter. Truth and facts are the same. Sorry brother.
I wish i could see you preach other than criticise a motivational speaker like osteen. Its not for me to judge him. Let God do it. Love his sermons to heaven and back.
Bryon Silvera: Nothing funny about it. It shows how deceived people are to come out in massive groves to encourage someone that doens't preach the gospel.
You're completely misrepresenting Osteen here. He's not doing a presentation of the gospel. He's teaching principles for successful living. Now, if you want to say he puts too much emphasis on teaching those principles and not enough on the presentation of the gospel you might have a valid point, but don't characterize this message as Joel's concept of the gospel. Also, at what point was Oprah a part of this story? Like your critique that Joel didn't mention Jesus, I didn't hear her mentioned once despite the fact that you included her name in the video's title.
Jew and Greek He said in the beginning of the video that Oprah posted it on her channel and said it changed her life. Sure, he's not claiming to proclaim the Gospel but he isn't teaching biblical principles either. There is very little, if any from what I've seen that will help anyone be successful in life. A successful life being defined as one in which a person seek after God and is becoming more like Christ. Where we are more satisfied with knowing Christ than anything else.
So what's the purpose of a sermon? To "teach[] principles for successful living"? Or to preach the word of God? And if you didn't hear Oprah mentioned, you weren't listening.
Okay, my bad. I went back and watched the beginning and somehow I missed the Oprah reference. But I stand by my statement that this is not Joel Osteen's presentation of the gospel. I'm pretty sure he understands original sin, justification by faith, judgment, substitutionary atonement and all that. He just doesn't do theology because it's not his style.
If he isn't preaching the word, he's wasting his, and his listeners', time. Although I slightly disagree with Challies' criticism of not mentioning Jesus (you could preach quite reasonably out of Numbers, for example, without mentioning him--although the connections are there, and you as a preacher would do better if you showed them to your congregation), you're attacking this video for something it doesn't say. Challies isn't addressing Osteen's entire work; he's addressing this one sermon--which, _as a sermon_, is truly awful. But even beyond not preaching the word, what Osteen is teaching in this "sermon" is directly contrary to the word. "God promises youth, health, wealth, and happiness" simply isn't biblical (and in the case of youth, is nonsensical). Whether this sermon is representative of his larger body of work or not, this sermon itself (which, again, is what Challies is talking about) is strongly opposed to the teaching of the Bible.
I'm unimpressed by this review of Joel's sermon. What exactly is wrong with saying 'I am fearfully and wonderfully made'??.. Imagine your interpretation of Jesus' suffering on the cross at 8.07, that's also screwed if you don't put it in perspective of the purpose of the cross. And for some guys in the comment that claims to be mature Christians, you should know that God is not interested in gloomy and depressed lives and that's really the purpose of this sermon. He's right when he says you should always keep a thankful and positive attitude not because everything is right, but exactly because of the work of Jesus. Paul sang and prayed in the prison, so because it sounds like what unbelievers would like doesn't make it not the word of God.
He has a point there, but it still doesn't mean that Joel has his message twisted. Do you know, there's no possible way of feeling good or confessing right without God in the picture. My point is, its because God is in the picture, you can expect good to happen to you. There's no room for that practically in the world. Besides, its always been Joel's style of preaching and that's how his sermons comeout. The purpose of the cross is still intact.
Joel Osteen teaches new age, name it and claim it, health and wealth, prosperity, feel good, self centered, secret law of attraction, word of faith doctrines!
I used to listen to Joel, he would ascribe to one verse and base his sermon off of that one verse. Joel is a Quasi-Pantheist. And Tim Challies is 100% correct in his assessment of Joel Osteen. Find in God's word where God is "not interested in gloomy and depressed lives and that's really the purpose of Joel Olsteen's sermons. Joel Osteen sermons are NOT based on the word of God, Joel Osteen's sermons are based on self and it is equally dangerous why? Because he is taking the focus off God and His Word and replacing it with "Self". Sure Joel is a positive and encouraging speaking (Thats what he could have been, cause he is not a preacher of Gods word thats for sure)but his kind of encouragement is damning to the one who needs to hear God's Word and the Gospel so that the people can come to repentance and faith in Jesus Christ. Even at the end where he gives a pithy sinners prayer is disgraceful with not even a hint of understanding of sin, God's wrath, and so on. So, Tim Challies is 100% correct. As I said, I used to listen to Joel Osteen, but stopped because his sermons were and stll are based on self, positive confession, and prosperity all of which are nowhere and I mean nowhere found in scripture. Need a hint? Look at all our Brothers and Sisters in Christ who were persecuted and kil l ed for following Jesus Christ and Christians today who are being persecuted still today for the sake of Christ. Let's see if Joel can with the use of Scripture teach a sermon about persecution in the church. You know what will happen? His church would be empty.
YES! Thank you for making this video. Unfortunately, because I am West African and grew up in the Pentecostal church, Joel Osteen is rather popular among Charismatics. However, when I tried telling my family that basically all Osteen does is never preaching on sin, holiness, etc I was shut down. Thankfully, I will for sure be bookmarking this video to hopefully show to my family sometime in the near future since it is such a CLEAR and straightforward video to grasp. Thanks again! :)
StylinSis3189 it really depends. "Charismatic" is a very very broad term. It's more broad than "Evangelical" and almost as broad as "Christian". I think you mean Word of Faith Charismatics
Yes, blab it and grab it people.
It's so interesting to see how diverse even Pentecostals can be cuz the Romanian Pentecostal community in the U.S. shuns Osteen. We are very selective of who we quote and who we listen to.
Sharon Murza: Yes that's an interesting point you made. Here's the difference between the two. The difference is that classic Pentecostals study their Bibles and are familiar with basic Bible doctrines, whereas, Charismatics that live on emotions and whatever sounds new. They also don't study their Bibles and lack basic knowledge about Bible doctrine and can easily accept the watered down, milk toast false gospel that Joel Osteen peddles.
What sin do you think Osteen should be preaching about? Rape? Murder? Fornication? Adultery? Envy? Jealousy? Lusting? Over eating? Covetousness? Revilers? Extortion? Theft?
We are fearfully and wonderfully made, but we also need to realize that we are hopeless without Jesus Christ!
I was thinking that when Osteen was saying "I am strong." In Christ. "I am prosperous" in Christ. Osteen is missing the "in Christ." in each of those things. Ultimately I am nothing if I am not in Christ.
Andrea Do Santos I agree 100%!! We are only confident in Christ alone! No weapon formed against us shall prosper in Christ Jesus our Lord! He is misleading this congregation!
@The Truth yeah man, we're a little sect offshot from Judaism who believe God was nailed to a cross and died then ressurected after 3 days and if you believe in Him you can have your sins forgiven and have His Spirit live in you which in turn helps you become a better person. Bonus points, we get eternal life too!! Best damn cult out there!!!
@The Truth not sure what your trying to provoke with your comments, but I've become a much better person since I became a Christian than what I was when I didn't believe. So if you want to call it a cult, that's fine. If you want to make bizarre comments about accountability, that's fine. Do what ever you like. I know what I used to be like and I know the person I've become in Christ, and I'm at peace with that change in me. Be blessed The Truth. There's so many beautiful, amazing and wonderful things that can happen in life, even if you never join our cult I hope you find something akin to the joy, peace and love I have found.
correct, and it’s supposed to proclaim His glory
this is not even a Sunday service ...it is just a lecture of a motivational speaker
Raghu Iyer, I listened to Joel Osteen often in the past and I thought he was more of a motivational speaker than an evangelist.
I sat under Keith Kraft of Elevate Life Church, who partnered with Joel in 2010 while constructing his cathedral in Frisco Tx. I was still a babe in the faith and didn't know anything about theology or sound doctrine. Long story short, I was told to tithe and constantly heard prophecies by Keith to the congregation of coming prosperity. That tithing led me to a car repossession, and ultimately unable to return to the church. Long story short, sometimes the lack of prosperity is a blessing.
"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."
--2nd Timothy 4:3
Over ten years ago my church pianist asked me why I couldn't preach like Osteen. I thought she was kidding, but she was dead serious. I said, "Because I can't even stand to look at him." Then I realized she was serious. My church would be a lot bigger if I preached like him, but would it really be a church?
Christians dont need churches nor preachers period! Only the lazy Christians go to churches to hear preachers regurgitate the bible to them.
Christians need to pick up the bible and study it for themselves.
The Holy Spirit is our greatest teacher but people wont turn to God when studying the bible. They dont pray for Wisdom and for understanding.
Hebrews 10:25 says we are to not forsake the assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some is.
You preach the truth and those who have ears will hear.
Adam Goodword I agree with you that followers of the Lord Jesus don’t need church as we’ve known it the past 5-6 centuries. We need the biblical assembling od the called out ones, the congregation of the Lamb, where everyone is exercising their spiritual gifts for the edification of all.
Mike McGuire Ministries WHAT? Preach like Osteen? But he is CLEARLY preaching the words of Satan! How sad so many are deceived by this servant of Satan! Truly the path that leads to life is narrow and not many find it. I wish they are more preachers like John MacArthur.
As Spurgeon said 'A sermon without Christ is like a loaf without flour' Certainly the NT prophecies about false teachers are
fulfilled. 2 Peter 2:3 says 'And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.'
His constant use of 'I Am' is nothing less than blasphemy... What does God say when asked about his name? "I AM THAT I AM"
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I was about to post that, and I scroll down and what is the first comment? This. When Osteen started with his "I am" this and "I am" that, I just cringed... no no NO. God is the "I Am". It's almost as if Osteen is trying to put himself in God's shoes which is a lot of false prophets do.
EDIT: Oi. Watched a few more minutes, and oi. Speaking words to affect reality, to create... yes.. that's... God's power. That's not something that *we* do. That's 100% pure blasphemy for Osteen to say that *we* can speak words and they become reality. God spoke the universe into existence, God's Words change reality. We are not God and I'd have to say that's the biggest blasphemy ever, or one of them, to even imply that men can do the same.
@@Dhalin What are you on about? I admit that Osteen has questionable theology but this statement shows how little bible knowledge you have.
Jesus made it clear that we have power and authority in his name to claim powerful things (may it be good or bad so we ought to say good things)
So Jesus answered and said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ it will be done. And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.”
Matthew 21:21-22
This may only be blasphemous when you try to do these things by your own might but under the name and authority of Jesus, we receive huge power. Educate yourself more on the Word so you dont sound ignorant. God bless
Exactly what I was thinking too
@@JohnDoe-gw6ww There's one problem here. Osteen is teaching that *YOU* are the one doing these things just by your own power of your own voice. What Christ is talking about in the Bible is undying Faith in *GOD* that *GOD* will do these things if you ask Him to. When Christ says that one who has enough Faith can say to a mountain 'be removed and cast into the sea' it's not the believer's power that accomplishes this, but rather God Himself that would lift the mountain and throw it into the sea.
Osteen says no such thing about God, and in fact, he doesn't mention God at all in his entire sermon other than the intro and the outro. The rest of it is telling you to worship yourself because you're so awesome if you keep telling yourself that. Osteen is telling you to call yourself "I am" rather than letting God by the "I am" and you asking God humbly and faithfully to do things for you. Christ taught that if you have undying Faith _in God,_ you can ask Him and He will answer.
Meanwhile, Osteen is telling you to be the exact opposite of humble, Osteen is actually pushing narcissism and self-absorbency. Look yourself in the mirror and go "I am awesome" ... no, we are not awesome. God Is. Everything we have, is thanks to God. Where in Osteen's sermon did Osteen ever say that we should get on our knees before God and thank Him for everything we have?
1 John 4:5, "They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them."
He’s teaching the law of attraction which is new age...
Absolutely. Wake up sheeple.
And Oprah’s a witch and also loves new age so they’re all in the same boat 😒 demonic
The truth that’ll never be making money on television:
I am not enough. I look in the mirror and I know somethings wrong. Ive taken an inventory of everything inside me and I find so many mistakes. I find sin in my heart and a hole that no wealth, addiction, or person can satisfy. Because of this I need Jesus Christ. He is enough and he is perfect. He overflows the hole inside me and he makes me righteous and perfect in God’s eyes because of his shed blood. But me? No, no, no the hard truth is I am nothing and not enough, but with Jesus I have the hope of being in a world where there is no sin and brokenness. In this world, we have to suffer and sacrifice and die daily to avoid the evil path of sin. There is nothing I can do to be enough or to do right, except accept Jesus and let him change my heart inside. The truth is the world is still going to be broken and so are we until we meet our creator.
This is blessed. Sounds like a poem too. God bless you, m'lady Chloe.
Chloe, beautifully said and so true. I only wish the people attending Osteen's lake wood could hear the truth like you have written.
Amen.
Amen.
You think Jesus wants sin and a big whole in your heart? He died and rose again so that we have life and it more abundantly and you do that by preaching the gospel your not supposed to preach the gospel with a heart full of sin your supposed to repent and see Gods goodness and then youbwant to preach the gospel to everyone
Appreciate your boldness and courage in calling out a sermon and preacher like this in an intelligent, reasoned, and loving way. This is not mean-spirited, but for the good of the church.
Jesus offended many with the truth. Never be afraid to offend people with the truth.
It doesnt take much courage to make a youtube video being negative about somthing positive and maybe joel osten might lack in telling people how bad they are but hes still preaching truth
the prosperity preaching of health, wealth, prosperity, work so well because they are the exact same things satan tempted Jesus with..
And it seems funny that so many Americans embrace it, since the average American consumes twice as much as we do in my country New Zealand, and yet believers there still are not content. Godliness with contentment is great gain.
Michael NewZealand it’s also heart-breaking. Jesus Himself expressed grief on this issue Mt 23:27.. but these are not believers of Christ because the sheep know His voice. these are believers of joel osteen and other proponents of prosperity preaching which the bible speaks of as well.
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.” (2 Timothy 4:3, NASB)
but it’s not like they are mere victims of a false preacher. paul washer was right when he said this is also God’s judgement for choosing for themselves such preachers instead of the truth. on our part we can only mourn for this tragedy, pray for God’s mercy, and preach the true gospel in love.. hoping such prosperity teaching will not corrupt the gospel in new zealand brother! Godliness with contentment is great gain indeed!
Thanks Miguel for your reply. Sadly the prosperity gospel has spread to so many churches and believers, not always in it's fullest form but subetly sometimes too - not just in NZ but everywhere. And I even know many born again believers who buy into it as least partially. It's because if someone asks you the question "Does God want you to be sick or well?" or "Does God want you to be rich or poor?" most people will say well and rich and hence logically the prosperity gospel seems to follow. And technically when the Lord establishes his kingdom fully in righteousness then there will be no sickness or death, but until then "in this world you will have trouble, but take heart I have overcome the world". If believers would think about the persecuted church in parts of the world and ask how the prosperity gospel applies to them, then I think they could see better to reject it. It is interesting though that you mention Paul Washer in contrast to Joel Osteen. Recently Paul himself said that the Lord rebuked him through listeing to Joel Osteen.
Michael NewZealand yeah such preaching will be really effective in persuading all kinds of people, even dare i say sheep. but amen Jesus has overcome the world and nothing is out of His sovereignty. and yep paul washer did say that the Lord used a false preacher to convict him. not because of the content of joel osteen’s preaching but because joel osteen was still very encouraging..
Just proof people read the Bible BUT don't absorb it's word.
This is show bussines, not gospel preaching.
You nailed it👍
Watch the hand symbolism he uses. He is communicating to his Freemason family. Much more nefarious than just show business. He is teaching self-divinity. A Satanic message.
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@The Truth you should probably consider changing you tag. Because of creation, God is evident, so that man is without excuse. God's Word is accurate. Satan exists, the evidence of his existence is quite clear. Yeshua is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Him. To Him be glory, honor and praise forever and ever!
@The Truth you are incorrect, however, I completely understand. Satan has deceived the world. God bless you. I pray for you.
I judged the video by its thumbnail. I thought Tim had fallen to Joel's false preaching. Thank you Tim for this analysis.
After watching his other videos, I knew this was going to be sarcastic. I trust him that much.I thank God for him.
Solomon Nallapu Right same thoughts. I already clicked not interested, but undone it again.
Praise the Lord, yes the thumbnail is tricky but i clicked the video to see how Tim would describe Osteen. Not doubted about Tim though.
Right
Lol
“In the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud....” 2 Tim 3:1-2
"Take your bible, say it like you mean it...I am what it says I am" IF THEY READ IT THEN THEY'LL KNOW THEY'RE A SINNER IN NEED OF GRACE???
You said Osteen's preaching is not true Christianity. I say it's not even reality! Think about all of our brothers and sisters in persecuted Nations. No matter how much they declare with their mouth something, they're still dealing with living with a system that hates Christians. And the Lord uses our suffering for our good and God's glory, which is completely contrary to Osteen Doctrine.
Yes, I am thinking about Christians in North Korea, or Muslim countries who are persecuted for their faith.
True sister ,Christians are persecuted secretly all over the world and we can't give them Osteen's gospelm.
Very well said.👍
Prosperity preachers only use the persecuted when they want them as an excuse to squeeze a new jet out of their followers. Creflo Dollar said that the families of the men beheaded in northern Africa, had called him, saying they "needed him there", and that's why he had to raise money for the newer, faster, slicker jet. And we know that when he got it, he never flew there to minister to any suffering, persecuted Christians. The fact is, persecuted and grieving believers in Jesus would not want him around. The devil makes sure that you feell the cruel, satanic mockery in word faith, when you are suffering because you're a believer in Jesus. The prosperity movement makes it clear that their only solution for any kind of suffering people is to "let them get their own faith!" That's what they'd say while passing by on the other side of the road, from the man who fell among thieves, who was left for dead. The 'Jesus" they promote, is a hard-boiled, compassionless copy of themselves, who is only interested in the high rollers. Everything about it is upside down from true, biblical, gospel Christianity, even the Lord. It also shows itself to be much closer to the occult, to the magic and sorcery of "The Secret"/Law of Attraction, or "When You Wish Upon a Star", than having anything to do with Jesus. That hard-boiled, word faith message doesn't apply to them, when they are trying to get people to buy them that new jet, or when they say a 900-ft "Jesus" told them to tell their followers to give them money to save their namesake hospital, or He would kill the pious preacher. Then, "seed faith" just doesn't seem to cut it (even though a billion dollars is not too many seed faith investments away from a mere $1, paying off at 10-fold or 100-fold). The reason that these people do this, is they are self-reprobated unbelievers, conscienceless charlatans, who have no real faith in Jesus at all, and who get something out of mocking God, and delight to get rich selling their followers a cheap substitute for salvation. Their followers are to blame for listening to these wolves, for preferring the cheap substitute to letting the Lord _really_ save them, but these wolves who exploit their dishonesty, are not real brothers or sisters in Christ. They have no fear of God, because they refuse to heed and believe in Him.
Very true. I was thinking about how strong people's faith can be in poorer countries. I realized that wow, the book of Job makes complete sense in those areas.
At first, I was going to leave a humorous comment. He never once mentions Jesus? There’s nothing funny about that. It breaks my heart. Lord bless you, Tim!
Yes, .....I've watched several of Joel's messages, and just like you've mentioned he never mentions Jesus...It is heart breaking....
What causes me dismay is that these poor people aren't being fed the pure milk of the word. What he gives them is a self-centered message that is not preparing them for eternity. Sad indeed.
the issue is not that Joel is "not preparing them for eternity", the issue is Joel is sending them to hell
I'm happy in the fact that many false teachers are constantly rising and it is a sign of the end times since the word of Jesus is being fulfilled. I am challenged to even be more zealous in preaching the Biblical Gospel of Christ.
I’m not joking when I say this. He doesn’t mention the name of Jesus because Oprah is in his “congregation”, she and many other people there don’t want to believe Jesus is the only way to salvation. I hope Osteen repents before he dies
We should pray for all of our leaders. They will be judged more harshly. Unfortunately most people don't read their bibles daily. It's up to us to use discernment too.
Haha. I thought to myself I got this, I know what's best for me, then God had to humble and break me multiple times to make realize how wretched I really am and I'm nothing without Him. Thank God for teaching me a lesson.
Jill RK: well at least your teachable and can take correction.
Louis Accardi nah, if anything it's God who made me able
wow, you are humble, may God bless you with the holy spirit!!
ink ella haha no I'm not humble that's why I had to be brought down a lot, but thank you and God bless you too.
Jill RK 💞 🙌 📖
I’m almost 100% sold that anyone who still listens to the likes of Joel hasn’t truly been transformed
Absolutely 100%. The Spirit of God would lead them running in the opposite direction.
Being transformed involves renewing the mind, when o first got saved I went along with everybody talking bad about joel but after I really learned alot about what the the bible says I happen to come across one of his sermons and found he is very accurate on the bible and he doesnt even have to stand up there and quote alot of scripture, it's time we not conform to what everybody thinks and take people's (preachers) word for it and look into the bible and find out for ourselves
I need to share this with mum pronto. I have been telling her Joel has been spreading false GOSPEL and now that you have broken it down I will download this video and share it with mum who religiously watches Joel every evening on TV. GOD bless you Tim and may the fire burn to never shut up about the LORD JESUS in HIS body!!!
Nderitu Pius his wife taught that Jesus was just a man until God put the spirit in him.
Bruh!!! *Vinyl needle breaks* WHAT KIND OF NONSENSE IS THAT?!?!?!?! IS SHE CRAZY!?!?!?! DOES SHE KNOW WHO GOD IS??!?!?!?! DOESN'T SHE UNDERSTAND THE TRINITY?!?!?!?! IS SHE CALLING FOR A CURSE? MAYBE SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE CURSE OF THIS BOOK WILL BEFALL ALL WHO MESS AROUND WITH THE LORD'S WORD BOTH IN WRITING AND READING!!!!
praying that God works through the video Pius!
This is the very exact prayer I have in my heart on this!! GOD BE GLORIFIED!!
Nderitu Pius pls ask your mom to listen to John MacArthur’s sermons. He is preaching the words of God. Joel Osteen is CLEARLY a faithful servant of Satan.
Man, if only Paul had known about the power of "I am", he could have avoided all those beatings and torture and eventual beheading... ;) SMH
Brilliant!
UMR Mech E LOL 😂 amen!!
UMR Mech E What? What do you mean?
😁 😁 😁...
Well said. The easy gospel for narcissistic air heads.
Thank u Brother Tim for teaching Truth.
Jesus is LORD.
Joe teaches us to be kind, generous, forgiving, doing right all the times.
When he said i am prosperous, i am beautiful, i am healthy, etc... he means that AS JESUS IS ABOVE, SO ARE WE IN THE WORLD.
We are created in the image of God. We are the righteouness of God in Christ. Jesus already died for our sins. He alread redeemed us. Why do we still want to be called sinners, weak, sick when all our sins are already forgiven, hence we are healed.
To say that we are sick, poor, weak, sinners is an insult to the finished work of Jesus. Yes, with Jesus, the Holy Spirit within us, we are strong, kind, generous, faithful etc... Jesus died and resurrected to give to us what he had, even His riches. Nothing wrong to be rich to help others. God's children cannot be broke and sick.
When Joe reminds us all those positive things about I AM, he praises Jesus finished works.
We are not worms anymore. We sit in Heaven with God and Jesus.
We have the fruit of the Holy Spirit within us: we are, love, peace, joy, kindness, gentleness, faith, patience, self control etc...
That is what Joe keeps reminding us at every sermons.
Please do not call us weak, sick, sinners anymore. Jesus and God already value us and accept us to His family.
I love Joe.Osteen.
I would never raise my Bible and "blindly" repeat after any human being before I knew what what going to be said. Classic example of the blind leading the blind. His congregation found what they want and will be rewarded with what this material world can give them, prayerfully some or most will see the true light is Christ Jesus. Never, not once mentioned the one name by which all are saved and reconciled to the Father...Jesus the Christ. Thank you Father, thank you Jesus
My Bible says “As a man thinks, so is he”. My Bible tells me that I build upon the foundation of Christ. I must build. I must decide to use my talents, my influence, my resources for God’s glory. My Bible says I am fearfully and wonderfully made. It also tells me “in me dwells no good thing”. I am saved by grace but I decide each day to intentionally try to be better for Christ. Joel Osteen’s message lifts me up. Helps me direct my energies. Reminds me of the goodness of God and His many promises and challenges for doing His will in today’s world. I tell my granddaughter every day she is awesome, she is smart, she is cute. What would you think if I told her everyday she is a loser, she is stupid, she is ugly? I’m sowing good seeds into her. What seeds are you sowing and what are you allowing people to sow in your life? Regards Glenn
Thank you for posting this. It makes me sad that so many people have been sucked into this trap. It has been said that the Church is the biggest ministry field and one of the hardest. I was sadly sucked into this way of thinking but thanks be to God I am free from that and see the truth now.
Joel mentions Jesus every week referring to Him as the Most High God and ends I am declaration in Jesus Name.
“We do not need an awesome God for salvation. . . We simply need to remember that we ourselves are awesome”!!!! WHAT!!!!????. That is literally idolatry and self-righteousness right there!!!. We DO NEED AN AWESOME GOD, Because He shows His awesomeness and love by dying for us because of our sin and our self-righteousness!! Read your bibles people without the influences of these prosperity teachers! We cannot do things to get to by ourselves, God is the reason we get to live in the first place. This motivational session is for non-believers and secular individuals and groups, because Jesus promises hardship, persecution, difficult times ahead for those who believe and share their gospel with those around us, as well as in certain circumstances be willing to die for him. None of this health, wealth and pursuit of happiness. God gives us our joy and our peace. We do not make it for ourselves, if we try we will fail. Read your bibles people. :)
Yep. You are spot on brother. Mathew 10: 16-42 Jesus already told us that it's not going to be easy and that persecution will come. Jesus Himself was accused of using using the power of the devil to cast out demons and He was called names. We are not to blend into the world and it's culture but we are called to stand out and be the light.
This man preaches all his “sermons” without opening the Bible. And IF he quotes a Bible verse, he quotes it wrong!! It’s hilarious, baffling and sad all at the same time that millions of people faithfully go to his “church” week in and week out.
it's deeply depressing.
I Listen to Joel for uplifting not for "churchy reasons" If a person is looking for Jesus, they should not have to have someone translate it to them. they should read the bible each day and let the spirit of learning and growth move them.
Tim, everything you said about Osteen's "The Power of I Am" self-worship pep talk (not a "sermon") applies equally to every single talk he gives--literally. Thank you for this. P.S. You've gotta LOVE Charles Spurgeon!
My paternal grandparents were Christians, but they'd watch people like Reverend Joel Osteen and his ilk on the Trinity Broadcasting Network. I became physically disabled in my early twenties from pelvic floor dysfunction. Untreatable abdominal pain, bloating, nausea, and vomiting, Grandfather and Grandmother blamed me for. I wasn't getting better because I resisted the wrongful diagnosis of psychosomatic disorder. My mother and elder brother also thought I was crazy.
Before Grandfather passed, he and I had a strained relationship. It was only afterward that I saw critiques of the then mysterious Osteen. Let me tell you, I'd have reached through the television screen and garrotted the man if such technology were possible. Reverend Paul Washer once said the "pastor" was God's judgement upon the congregation, as most of them wanted comfortable lives instead of our Lord. I agree. Osteen and Oprah Winfrey were/are examples of Satan's agents.
Jacob Carpenter Ouch! Garroting is bit extreme but I can definitely sympathize with the emotion.
Amen!
"For I (Paul) determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him crucified."
[1 Corinthians 2: 2]
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
[Galatians 1: 8]
"See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ."
[Colossians 2: 8]
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I am a sinner saved by the loving grace of God through the blood of Jesus Christ shed on the cross of Calvary.
One of my former roommates is an Osteen fan. What I see in Osteen's appeal is that he addresses the feelings of the bullied members of society. It's really tough to be bullied and feel like the heal of the world is in your face all the time. Sometimes people do just need to be flatly reminded that "you are beautiful" etc. I believe that is the appeal of his pep rallies. Sadly, he isn't taking people much beyond triage and basic first aid in this spiritual war in which they find themselves. To compete with his approach, someone needs to clearly define the power of God and the things He has done and the things He is doing. Academic scripture study fails to address the need for triage and first aid. Academics are only accessible to people whose wounds are not so serious. It's like, people are in foxholes and they don't need platitudes and introspection, they need ammo and armor. I've been in that position and discovered how lacking academia is on the battlefield. I've never cared for Osteen's fluff-talk but there's a world of confused and ignorant people who look to their feelings to validate truth. A smart preacher will reach these people by emphasizing God's power over all and that we haven't got any. "Jesus" is not a magic word...etc.
Hate to hear that this is the final entry of this series. It has truly been great! Thank you for introducing us to these (mostly) incredible, God-exalting sermons. You are a blessing to Christ's church.
Mr. Olsteen is more about the SHAM (Self-Help Actualization Movement) than about Christ which says everyone can be a god if we only believe it. Pray that the true Gospel reaches the heart of Mr. Olsteen and that he seek to glorify God above all.
Thank the Lord He is using you to open the eyes of the lost. Let us choose to love, not just their congregation, but Joel and his wife as well. This is how they will know we are of Christ.
I take this as constructive criticism of him and his church, which is great! Let us now pray for them so that they see the love of God and stop preaching false doctrine. The Lord is able to deliver anyone from anything. Pray for them and pray for yourselves, this way you will be filled with the peace of the Father. May the Lord Jesus help them and us.
Remember, let he who is without sin cast the first stone ❤️
It is our duty to preach the truth to the world and so they will see for themselves what is true and of the Lord.
Joel is literally preaching Satan's message. Worship yourself, be your own god and call things into existence. He surely knows what he is doing. Yikes.
Yep, its new age preaching. New Age is all about "there is no god, but YOU are god".
No he isn’t. He is teaching the truth. God says you are my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased. God says your youth is renewed like eagles. Stop exalting satan and declaring that everybody is preaching his messages. Satan didn’t say “you shall have what you say” - God did, read Mark 11:23 ““For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.”
Mark 11:23
Before you start cursing the preacher, go study the word and speak the word.
Euge Z you can preach 99% truth and still be a false teacher, look at his lifestyle, he never teaches repentance, sin or hell
Euge Z Even Jesus prayed 'not my will but Thy will.' Jesus also said "if anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life (have his best life now) will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit his very self?" And Paul says to Titus under the inspiration of the Spirit that "the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say No to ungodliness and worldly passions and to live self controlled, upright and godly lives... Greed for this world is not godly. Grace teaches us to say No to that. Paul said he poured out his life as a drink offering. Paul told the Corinthians that those among them who buy something should live as if it were not theirs to keep, those who use the things of the world as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away. Thanks for listening as I preach the gospel of enduring wealth. Is this what he preaches? Be a Berean!
Renee Solis Hes just cherry picking versus out of context of their chapter and a whole . Mark 11 23 is a tired and well debunked justification prosperity people use. Jesus didn't promise our best lives now. When these prosperity people get cancer, or fall on hard times. They question their faith and wonder why God didn't give them their healing or worldly riches. Even worse in some of these "churches" the congregation will accuse these people of not having enough faith. How devastating is that. To think if Paul had enough faith he could have removed the thorn right? The apostles died horrible deaths, had bad health, not all rich. They not only had faith but sight. Word faith is heretical garbage that deserves the bin like the rest of new age teaching.
Man I thought "What is Joel Osteen doing in the The Great Sermon Series!!!??" but after watching the first minute I realized what was happening. For a second I thought Tim decided to join the dark side lol Great series tho, keep on working hard in your ministry my brother!
I appreicate you explaining the biblical reasons for why you made this video at the begining. It supports why this video is important and effective.
Who are we as human beings? We truly don't know. For 27 years I was not attached to myself. I was not attached to anyone or anything. I excelled at whatever I wanted to do. I believe God created us, gave all the right abilities to do whatever we want to do with them. At 27 I joined a church, by age 32, I'm asking myself a question. Who am I? Religion got me to start looking at myself through a microscope, am I sinning, what did I do that was bad, to me it was a negative experience. My success rate started to come down. My problems that I could once solve or now a challenge. By the time I hit my 40s, I was like the people in the world. Waking up to who what and where to dislike, and like. Since I have gotten away from religion. My peace has returned, my success has returned and I'm much happier today.
God created us gave us all the abilities to go into the world to do amazing things. Why would he give us such a strong potential to achieve whatever we want, if we believe we have to ask him for help. Isn't it a oxymoronic practice?
Keeping preaching the good word, brother. I appreciate you being a champion for the cause of spreading the TRUE gospel of Christ Jesus.
#PREACH
I don't know if I should laugh or cry.. Long ago while I told a friend of mine that I was a bit depressed, he told me to listen to Joel Osteen. I listened to only one sermom. Now I realize why he asked me to listen to this guy's sermons, it is just filled with I am, I am, I am.. JESUS SAYS I am the bread of life, I am the light of the world, I am the gate, I am the good shepherd, I am the true vine, I am the way and the truth, I am the resurrection and the life; Before Abraham was born, IAM. when you have Jesus at the center, why do you need self esteem? John the Baptist said I must decrease so that He might increase. Joel Osteen is deceiving many. So sad!
Whenever I imagine or dream what Satan looks like, it is almost identical to Joel Osteen. No joke. Those beady eyes, false grin, pointy chin, slick hairdo. Terrifying.
I also feel like he is beginning to look evil and so is Victoria (I really don't want to be critical but it is unsettling)
yes that's right. I thought I'm only one knew noticed that. That's true you say
The Gospel is not about us but about Jesus Christ. We should look at Jesus lifestyle when we think how to live in this world.
Tim, thank you for the warning at the start. I almost didn't watch this one. And nearly dropped your channel.
I have been in depression and hate myself. I lost my way and stick with my past, that hurt me every time I thinking about it. I'm not loving myself enough. Now I getting better a lot after I listening to him. What do you want he to say? I'm old ,sick, depresses,and have no beauties in me? Or I'm a loser like i alway be?and God not love me ?.
God also had done it one told the good new to another people and bad people hate him.
Jesus didn't die on the cross so I can be a sinful person, hopeless, ,depression all day and feel like God not love me.
This world is getting worse every day we all see it with our own eyes instead of making people more sad and depressed why don't you go out and help them give them the words of God make them stand with hope and love for tomorrow. One in my life I losing hope in every one girl could handle with every day I got depression, now I can stand again and knowing that God love me and I'm wonderfully made by my all mighty God. I can do all thing in Jesus name and he love me. Because of him now I can be who he want me to be strong ,beautiful ,kind and happy .
Well said!
Making this vid must have been hard for you, brother.
Brilliant Tim .My late father was a theologian .He would have been proud of what you have said in response to heresy . Keep it up and bless you .
I ran away from his teachings years ago, because I never heard him say Jesus Christ or Holy Spirit. To add salt to the injury about a year ago, I came across a clip of his interview with Oprah, were he denied Jesus Christ. It became clear to me that he's not a Christian.
Thank you for making this video. God bless you all in Jesus name Amen.
I’d like to see a video rebuking, lovingly of course, Andy Stanley severing himself from the Old Testament.
Listen to James White's dividing line. Or Wretched with Todd Friel. Both have mentioned it.
Wow, that's shocking. I didn't know he had said this.
First fruits of Zion has an excellent video out, called "Irresistable - answering Andy Stanley's replacement theology " that is very good. You can watch it on RUclips.
Thank you Tim. I love how you preached the truth in Jesus. May the Lord Jesus continue to use you for His Glory.
Joel, don't you fear hell! How can you live everyday knowing you possibly headed to hell unless you Repent. I would be terrified.
What's missing in all those statements is this; I am who I am because OF Jesus. That's the truth for every believer, there is nothing wrong with claiming victory but don't forget the Victor, don't leave the true I AM out of it all. Our praise and worship should always be attributed toward Him and only Him, because apart from Him we can do nothing. David said in Psalm 34:1, I will bless the Lord at all times, His praise shall continually be in my mouth. Notice its His praise, not my praise. The core of the gospel is JESUS and Him alone. I am not against 'positive speaking' but if you leave Jesus out of it, then its 'poisonous speaking'.
People are forgetting that all power comes from Him. He gives us the power, we don't give ourselves it, Jesus always reminded His disciples, in order for you to gain your life you need to replace your old life with me (Him), Matthew 16:25, Matt 10:39 & Luke 17:33, because He is the life. In Him we live, we move and we have our being, Acts 17:28. Its easy to quote bible verses (even the devil can do that), but only the (Holy) Spirit of God references and witnesses about the Son of God (the Word) and the Son (Jesus) witnesses about the Father (God). Because they are one and the same 1 John 5:7. So let's not leave Jesus out of our sermons because He came to save us from our sins not to give us material prosperity alone because He said, your life is not consistent with the abundance of things, Luke 12:15. It's His gospel not ours. Amen.
My favorite part "perhaps I'm being unfair". Meh, no, not really Tim! LOL
People need to know the truth. God bless you, brother Tim. May your ministry be blessed as well.
Thank you Tim. I am deeply ashamed to say that my wife and I were fans of Osteen for so many years. Sadly, the many charismatic UK churches were went to also reflected this erroneous theology. Sadly these errors are now a pandemic problem. Your analysis is precisely what I have come to believe after now following the likes of Paul Washer and John MacArthur.
Excellent decision!
When we miss the Total Depravity, we'll be walking right into the devil's snare of thinking higher of ourselves than we really are.
LOL I bet Osteen hates Romans :)
A not so great sermon! Hahaha! Waiting for the spanish version, keep doing such a great job!
I was almost deceived by the caption and thumbnail. But having recently watched 3 other videos on Paul Washer, John MacArthur and RC Sproul, I looked forward to the analysis. Thank you Tim!
Oprah endorsed it? Staying away.
An exceptional presentation of Joel Osteen's false gospel. Despite the time that has passed by since this sermon, his popularity continues to climb; all the more reason for us to warn the sheep to run to the Great Shepherd for protection. Thank you Tim.
Thank YOU LORD for this video revealing a WOLF!
I hate that this is how this amazing series is going to retire. it breaks my heart that this is such a prominent message in the 'body' right now. I am however glad that you addressed it with tact and compasion.
"A dumpster fire of a sermon"😂😂😂
I understand the responses of most of the people making comments. In response, I wanted to get a better understanding of the context of the sermon/message/speech of Joel Osteen here. Went to the Lakeland church website. Saw there under the "about" section, that the principles of faith are belief in the Scripture, in the trinity, in salvation through Jesus. Saw the music that points people to Jesus, that elevates His name. I listened to other sermons, in which the message is clearly that God is in control, that we need God and Jesus in our lives, that the answer is Jesus and God in our lives. So I understand the comments about this message - and even the underlying principles - but look, people, at the message of Osteen's church. Look beyond a criticism of this message.
When Joel Osteen was on Oprah, she said she couldn't believe in a God the was jealous, to which Mr. Osteen had no reply. It's unfortunate that he knows neither English nor the nature of the God he professes.
Unfortunately no explained to her that God's love for us is so immense, so deep that He has to restrain Himself from showing it too much too soon because it would overwhelm us. His jealousy is for us not against us.
What parent would not risk life itself to free their child from a murderer, a thief, or kidnapper? The devil is all those & more. He is jealous for our love because He knows that His love is unselfish. He loves for our sake not like the devil who just wants to destroy.
@@marketingsimplified Exactly. Oprah interprets 'jealousy" as envy, which it is not. Apparently Mr.Osteen does not know the difference either.
Here's hoping and praying that someone explains the difference to her before she experiences the difference between life and death.
This is exactly why I praise the Lord for His gift of Biblical preaching in my church.
Osteen worships what is horizontally in his mirror and leads many astray. Brethren, the mirror is dark. Let us seek Christ above and eschew the world that we can read in Colossians 2:16-3:4
Set Your mind on things above not on things on the earth. Prosperity gospel is the worst thing to hit the church.
we to were once lost and now we're found, we were blind, but now we see...The only truth is to open your bible and read, no other way.....We can not depend on man...I had to learn this the hard way, and a very long road....Please open your bibles...God bless Tim, thank you for sharing...you always provide good sharing, teaching and insight!
brenda perry "Once i was blind, now i am blind" bahahaha i bet if osteen was honest he'd say that
My heart is to pray for Joel and Oprah. Lord bring them out of darkness and into Your marvelous light. May they know the Truth (Jesus, the Word made flesh, the Word of GOD) and may the Truth set them free from the lies of the world, the flesh and the devil. In Jesus Christ. Amen.
Amy Augustine God doesn't have youtube!!! 😳😳 I don't get why so many people pray via typed words on a social media chat for all to see!!!!
Matthew 6:5-6 ESVB
“And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
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I've really enjoyed this series Tim. It's been a great encouragement to me. Urging me to go back and re-listen to my favourite sermons again. Thanks bro
*"So very.. very bad."* Yes. Totally.
I wish I could hit the thumbs up button 5 million times. Thank you!
Sadly he is far away from his father
His father taught God’ words
7.9.20 ~ I am a child of the *Most* *High* *God* &, thus, I take the warning given in *His* *Word* concerning the dangers of false teachers (such as Osteen) seriously. Thank you, Tim, for your enriching teachings! God bless!
Good. I almost jumped in disbelief. Glad it's only a kind of "clickbait".
Theodorus Diaz Praditya I knew Tim would be smarter than to promote Osteen as something great. :-)
The video is a little cheeky, but it’s meant to serve as a kind of contrast to the much greater sermons.
Tim Challies Thanks Tim for your review. We ought to exercise discernment, and here through the video you exercise your discernment for this not-so-great sermon. God bless your ministry.
Glad Steve Farrar mentioned you. I am sharing this on Facebook if that is okay. Might thin my friend list some.
Well done. Thanks. Excellent production.
I will never miss a video ripping on Joel
J Lupus if you ignore the news telling you of a flood warning in your area and go on to sleep. Then as you sleep water creeps up your yard. Then starts to creep through the foor & walls & inches turn into feet. Hopefully you arent sleeping deep enough that it covers you & drowns you. Hopefuly you wake up & get out of the house. The house would be counted as a loss but yet you will still be alive a have a chance to get a new house. I ask you please Lupus to at least listen to this video so that you can hear a warning that will hopefuly save your life. I pray you hear & see the truth of The true & living God that sets you free. Wake up my friend so we can meet in heaven. 💞
I am Christian already bro lol but thank you :)
I didn't think Gail was being funny. I missed the humor in what was said in Gail's comment.
@@louisaccardi6808 it’s funny because she misunderstood that he was making a cheeky comment and she responded like he enjoyed Osteen and was super serious.
@@jlupus8804 I don’t think she understood what ripping meant in your comment 🙃🤣
Joel's messages brought me closer to God...too! I will always defend him agst the jealous christians...the nay sayers...the self appointed critics...who WILL stand in judgement for what they say agst him!
Stop listening to him, read the Bible, and see how much of a wretch we are, how unholy and unrighteous we are, and then see how amazing the grace of God is. Would you dare tell a cancer patient to just start getting up in the morning and declaring that they are healthy? That's what he is saying. Would you dare to tell the millions of believers who are being jailed, killed, tortured, and ran out of their home by their own family that all they have to do is declare that they have a loving family and it shall be so? That's what he is saying.
You need to ask yourself, which god are you truly serving? The true God of the Bible doesn't care about your self esteem, your health, your wealth. He cares about making you holy as He is holy. He cares about you sacrificing your life to fulfill the great commission. He cares about your eternal spiritual health instead of this small water droplet compared to the vast universe of eternity.
Yes. "Christ died for the weak" so that they may become strong. And He said, "let the weak say I am strong".
I believe your intention is good. But you shouldn't make easy and cheap claims like this one. You don't know all of the story. And I'm not even siding with Joel on this. I'm trying to stop you from being a stumbling stone for young believers who are easily carried away. If you think there's something wrong with his message, pray for him. Because for what I know he has a lot of influence so his "repentance" can save thousands. Remain Blessed!
Rebecca Grace Guei i agree with you on this one
I believe your intention is good, but you shouldn't make cheap and easy claims like this one. You don't know all of the story. And even though I'm totally siding with Tim on this I'm also trying to stop you from being a stumbling stone for young believers who are easily carried away. If you think there's something wrong with his message, then pray for him. Because from what I know he has a wide influence and his repentance will lead many to a better understanding of the truth. Remain blessed!
Okay, I didn't mean all of that, but just wanted to show you that Tim is doing to Joel's "sermon" exactly what your doing to his video (you commented critically, instead of simply praying for him). Peace
Also, can you give me the reference where Jesus says "let the weak say I am strong" ??
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I think there's a difference between commenting critically and calling someone an imposter based on one sermon.
@@jessethomas3979 Joel3:10. There you go
This is wonderful. Tim, keep up your faithful labor brother. This is teaching people after God's own heart how to exercise discernment according to His Word and not "gut feelings".
Lord bless you sir 🙏
Tickle your ears.
Great video. Accurate on every point. God bless.
Almost stopped watching. Glad I didnt.
Loved it, nailed it! Good job my brother. All so true concerning what Joel preaches. God bless you and keep you while on the battlefield for our Lord Jesus Christ and Wonderful Savior. 😇
This sermon was described as
Truly truly terrible
Flaming dumpster fire
Wretched and little
So very very bad X2
Not great
Pray for Joel and those sitting under his false teachings.
This is one of the greatest youtube videos of all time.
You both are wrong. We need to talk positive on ourselves but having Jesus as the centre of our confession and Osteen may not have that but this man is leaving out the confession and do not really understand that we have been healed by the stripes of Jesus and therefore I can say I have been healed by the stripes of Jesus because the truth and fact are two different things.
We are healed by his stripes. 1 Pet 2:24. But if you read that you will see it is not refering to physical healing. Isaiah 53:4 is quoted refering to Jesus physically healing a person. Is 53:5 is never quoted in that regard by either Jesus, Paul or Peter. Truth and facts are the same. Sorry brother.
I wish i could see you preach other than criticise a motivational speaker like osteen. Its not for me to judge him. Let God do it. Love his sermons to heaven and back.
This was some good discernment presentation, man. God bless your ministry.
A NOT SO GREAT SERMON HAHA
Bryon Silvera: Nothing funny about it. It shows how deceived people are to come out in massive groves to encourage someone that doens't preach the gospel.
Uau! Excellent! Congratulations!
My admiration. From Brazil.
You're completely misrepresenting Osteen here. He's not doing a presentation of the gospel. He's teaching principles for successful living. Now, if you want to say he puts too much emphasis on teaching those principles and not enough on the presentation of the gospel you might have a valid point, but don't characterize this message as Joel's concept of the gospel.
Also, at what point was Oprah a part of this story? Like your critique that Joel didn't mention Jesus, I didn't hear her mentioned once despite the fact that you included her name in the video's title.
Jew and Greek He said in the beginning of the video that Oprah posted it on her channel and said it changed her life. Sure, he's not claiming to proclaim the Gospel but he isn't teaching biblical principles either. There is very little, if any from what I've seen that will help anyone be successful in life. A successful life being defined as one in which a person seek after God and is becoming more like Christ. Where we are more satisfied with knowing Christ than anything else.
Hard to proclaim the gospel when you are a slave to Satan and self like Osteen's fruit indicates to the body of discerning believers.
So what's the purpose of a sermon? To "teach[] principles for successful living"? Or to preach the word of God?
And if you didn't hear Oprah mentioned, you weren't listening.
Okay, my bad. I went back and watched the beginning and somehow I missed the Oprah reference. But I stand by my statement that this is not Joel Osteen's presentation of the gospel. I'm pretty sure he understands original sin, justification by faith, judgment, substitutionary atonement and all that. He just doesn't do theology because it's not his style.
If he isn't preaching the word, he's wasting his, and his listeners', time. Although I slightly disagree with Challies' criticism of not mentioning Jesus (you could preach quite reasonably out of Numbers, for example, without mentioning him--although the connections are there, and you as a preacher would do better if you showed them to your congregation), you're attacking this video for something it doesn't say. Challies isn't addressing Osteen's entire work; he's addressing this one sermon--which, _as a sermon_, is truly awful.
But even beyond not preaching the word, what Osteen is teaching in this "sermon" is directly contrary to the word. "God promises youth, health, wealth, and happiness" simply isn't biblical (and in the case of youth, is nonsensical). Whether this sermon is representative of his larger body of work or not, this sermon itself (which, again, is what Challies is talking about) is strongly opposed to the teaching of the Bible.
Very well put together and thought through. I'm impressed.
I'm unimpressed by this review of Joel's sermon. What exactly is wrong with saying 'I am fearfully and wonderfully made'??.. Imagine your interpretation of Jesus' suffering on the cross at 8.07, that's also screwed if you don't put it in perspective of the purpose of the cross. And for some guys in the comment that claims to be mature Christians, you should know that God is not interested in gloomy and depressed lives and that's really the purpose of this sermon. He's right when he says you should always keep a thankful and positive attitude not because everything is right, but exactly because of the work of Jesus. Paul sang and prayed in the prison, so because it sounds like what unbelievers would like doesn't make it not the word of God.
Justus Nwaefido Did you watch the part where Tim states Joel mentioned Jesus zero times in his sermon?
He has a point there, but it still doesn't mean that Joel has his message twisted. Do you know, there's no possible way of feeling good or confessing right without God in the picture. My point is, its because God is in the picture, you can expect good to happen to you. There's no room for that practically in the world. Besides, its always been Joel's style of preaching and that's how his sermons comeout. The purpose of the cross is still intact.
Joel Osteen teaches new age, name it and claim it, health and wealth, prosperity, feel good, self centered, secret law of attraction, word of faith doctrines!
I used to listen to Joel, he would ascribe to one verse and base his sermon off of that one verse. Joel is a Quasi-Pantheist. And Tim Challies is 100% correct in his assessment of Joel Osteen. Find in God's word where God is "not interested in gloomy and depressed lives and that's really the purpose of Joel Olsteen's sermons. Joel Osteen sermons are NOT based on the word of God, Joel Osteen's sermons are based on self and it is equally dangerous why? Because he is taking the focus off God and His Word and replacing it with "Self". Sure Joel is a positive and encouraging speaking (Thats what he could have been, cause he is not a preacher of Gods word thats for sure)but his kind of encouragement is damning to the one who needs to hear God's Word and the Gospel so that the people can come to repentance and faith in Jesus Christ. Even at the end where he gives a pithy sinners prayer is disgraceful with not even a hint of understanding of sin, God's wrath, and so on. So, Tim Challies is 100% correct. As I said, I used to listen to Joel Osteen, but stopped because his sermons were and stll are based on self, positive confession, and prosperity all of which are nowhere and I mean nowhere found in scripture. Need a hint? Look at all our Brothers and Sisters in Christ who were persecuted and kil l ed for following Jesus Christ and Christians today who are being persecuted still today for the sake of Christ. Let's see if Joel can with the use of Scripture teach a sermon about persecution in the church. You know what will happen? His church would be empty.
Justus Nwaefido if the purpose of the cross is intact, what then would you say is the purpose of the cross?
Home run, brother! Great video.