When the other options are a $10 shovel or a $30,000 brand-name machine...these could be handy. That is like saying nobody should buy a rubbish Prius, they should either walk or buy a Lamborghini.
Love that you guys are doing this video series, bringing a lot of transparency to the Chinese excavator market and helping new owners make an educated decision.
Thanks so much! That's exactly what we're aiming for - to give new owners the info they need to make the right choice. Stay tuned for more videos, we’ve got a lot of comparisons coming up!
Thanks, Mike! I really appreciate the feedback 😊👍. Glad you found the videos helpful! Your videos are great too-looking forward to more projects you've done.
Thank you so much for your feedback! I'm glad you found the video helpful. 😊 If you have any questions or need more information, feel free to call us or send us an email anytime. We're here to help and look forward to assisting you with your purchase soon! 💪
Thank you for the kind words! I'm a big fan of Project Farm myself, and I really appreciate your support. It's great to hear that you find the content valuable and informative!
Already have a Rippa R319 but I want to buy one with swing boom so i can dig better near walls. The one in your video has interesting boom with the cylinder on top. I have not seen this offered to me. Do i need to ask separate to get both swing boom and boom with cylinder on top? It seems safer for digging, not sure if it's as strong as standard boom. Also can you tell me what lever is for swing boom? I also have 4 levers and 2 pedals, it would need one more to work correctly right?
The boom cylinder on top provides greater digging ability but sacrifices some lifting power. We currently have the Rippa R319 with a swing boom and a top-mounted boom cylinder in stock. Pricing is as follows: $6,400 for the B&S 13.5HP model and $9,000 for the Kubota D722 Diesel model. The swing boom is controlled by a button hidden on the left joystick.
Hello, Yes, we do have counterweights available for the Rippa R319. We also carry a wide range of other parts and accessories for our machines. If you need anything, please don’t hesitate to contact us at our email: info@bisonequipmentandexcavators.com or give us a call at the numbers below: USA: +1 (484)-334-5678 Canada: +1 (437)-660-8843 Looking forward to assisting you!
Glad I could help! Overall, heavier machines are more likely to come with pilot control, as most non-pilot control machines are typically one-ton gasoline-powered models.
Do you ever get in any of the 15 series? I have been looking at the Diggit em15, ff15, jg15, and the miva VA15p. I am more interested the in the machines with the pilot controls.
@@bisonequipment Auction completed already. I picked up an NW-18. I liked that it has everything from hydralic filters and coolers, to Hydr-thumb and engine bay fans. I only have an hour on it so far as I was waiting for new grease fittings since the ones they come with are make of crap. I flipped the engine bay fan and made a shroud so now it cools much better. Added LEDs around entire machine for being able to operate in the dark. I am waiting for some parts to arrive to try to fix the leaking gas tank. Also had to wire in my own kill switch since turning off the ignition doesn't kill the engine. Overall I got what I was expecting and its already saved a few hours of back breaking work.
@@HellTriX Yeah, I do like the design of the NW-18 Plus, but since it’s not that popular, I’m a bit worried about finding parts down the line. it’s awesome that it’s already saving you hours of hard work. Machines like that really pay off when you can customize them to fit your needs. Keep us posted on any new tweaks you make!
Most AGT machines are sourced from auctions. If you’re buying from a reseller, you might as well purchase directly from the auction. Buying through a middleman means paying extra for their markup without necessarily receiving warranty or parts support. Additionally, AGT is essentially a rebranding company (I know they have a factory tour video on Facebook, but it’s misleading). For this reason, I recommend choosing machines that come directly from the factory. Factory-direct machines come with a VIN plate, allowing the factory to identify the specific batch and provide better warranty service. If you decide to go with a factory-direct machine, look for local sellers with a physical store and a good stock of spare parts, like we do. This way, you can take advantage of the seller’s parts and warranty support. Even if the seller goes out of business, you can still contact the factory directly to purchase parts for a fee. If you don’t have local dealers with a physical store and in-stock parts, feel free to contact us. We ship machines nationwide for just a few hundred dollars extra.
@ , thank you for the advise. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond. I have been watching your videos. They are very helpful and informative. The local guy has four new units for sale, but no warranty comes with them. I don’t think there are any legitimate resellers near me, who offer a warranty or stock replacement parts. The closest legit reseller, who stocks replacement parts, offers Kymron units with a one year warranty. His location is a two hour drive from me. The Kymron units are $8000 plus tax and the additional cost for shipping, or trailer rental and fuel costs to go get it myself. My thoughts were if parts are actually available for the GH12R machines, like pumps, drive motors, ext., I could buy a lot of parts for that additional $4000 I would save buying locally with no warranty. I agree buying with no warranty is a big gamble. My understanding is if I can get a warranty, it would be good for one year at best. My biggest concern is availability of vital parts after the warranty period. That is more likely when I would need to replace something serious, since I would likely have less than forty hours on any excavator the first year. Do you know if hydraulic pumps and drive motors are actually available for these machines in the states, or do the pumps, drive motors have to come direct from China. Do all QH12R machines all use the same drive motors and pumps, are do they vary from machine to machine? If these QH12R machines are rebranded variants and not identical, then after warranty repairs would likely be a nightmare anyway, no matter where I bought it. I will continue to look for a reseller who stocks parts and offers a warranty. I may ultimately end up spending $1500 to $2000 on a local rental of a Kubota U17 ( $300 per day 8 hours use per day ) to handle my immediate project, burying twenty-four tree root balls. We had a tornado last summer that took down 24 trees on our property. My immediate need is what got me thinking about buying a cheap Chinese machine. If a cheap Chinese machine would actually dig twenty-four holes 4 to 5 feet deep, my net out of pocket differential to own a small machine, that I could be available on site at my discretion, would be $2500 to $3000. I subscribed to your channel and will continue to follow your progress. You certainly have provided a lot of good information about your personal machine. Looks like you are improving on the functionality of your machine. I look forward to seeing how the add-ons work to improve the smoothness of operation and longevity of the machine. Thanks again for your advice.
@@jacklabloom635 hi Jack! Hope you and your family have a great holiday ! Thank you so much for your support and for subscribing! Your feedback really motivates me to keep improving and sharing more helpful content. Regarding your questions, critical components like hydraulic pumps, engines, and drive motors are relatively easy to find in the U.S. However, smaller parts, like specific hydraulic adapter or control relay, can be much harder to source. Local hydraulic shops and online stores often don’t carry these items, and even machines from the same model line can have differences due to optional configurations, making parts non-interchangeable. These small issues can sometimes cause weeks of downtime. We currently offer a 1-ton machine for $5,900 with a one-year parts and powertrain warranty, which might be a better option compared to spending an extra $4,000 on other machines. We stock parts as always, ensuring you have access to what you need. Renting could also be a good choice, especially for an efficient machine like the Kubota U17, saving you both time and effort. You could try negotiating better rates for a longer rental period. Thanks again for watching my videos, and I look forward to hearing more from you! Feel free to ask anytime.
The Seisan SE-12 in this video is equipped with a mechanical thumb, not a hydraulic one. Even with the addition of a hydraulic thumb and swing boom, the weight difference would not be as much as 600lbs for an excavator of this size. Thank you for your comment, if you have any other questions feel free to let us know!
Hello, thanks for the video, you are great I tried to get a contact in China for Saisan excavators but was unsuccessful. Do you have a contact for Saisan excavators? Thanks in advance
You can contact them through their email: sales@seisanmachinery.com or if you feel comfortable, please send me your email and I’ll let their salesperson contact you.
In this series, we plan to organize and test everything, then provide a final statement to guide people on how to evaluate the machines. We'll also be doing some on-site comparisons soon!
You're right, John-there are so many brands and price ranges out there, it can be overwhelming. That’s exactly why we're testing and comparing everything in this series, to help people make better decisions. Stay tuned for more!
There is no right chinese rubbish digger
It's not fair to talk about quality apart from price.
When the other options are a $10 shovel or a $30,000 brand-name machine...these could be handy. That is like saying nobody should buy a rubbish Prius, they should either walk or buy a Lamborghini.
@ Correct.Everyone has the right to make a choice according to his own situation and needs.So this video is very good.👍🏻👍🏻😁😁
we have Chinese diggers.
@@adachao5055I love my loongsheen machine
Love that you guys are doing this video series, bringing a lot of transparency to the Chinese excavator market and helping new owners make an educated decision.
Thanks so much! That's exactly what we're aiming for - to give new owners the info they need to make the right choice. Stay tuned for more videos, we’ve got a lot of comparisons coming up!
Thanks for posting these videos!
Really helpful info 😊👍
Thanks, Mike! I really appreciate the feedback 😊👍. Glad you found the videos helpful! Your videos are great too-looking forward to more projects you've done.
Thanks for video #2. Great Job! Good information to consider. Looking to purchase from you soon!
Thank you so much for your feedback! I'm glad you found the video helpful. 😊
If you have any questions or need more information, feel free to call us or send us an email anytime. We're here to help and look forward to assisting you with your purchase soon! 💪
This is fantastic. It's like the project farm of Chinese mini excavator
Thank you for the kind words! I'm a big fan of Project Farm myself, and I really appreciate your support. It's great to hear that you find the content valuable and informative!
Already have a Rippa R319 but I want to buy one with swing boom so i can dig better near walls. The one in your video has interesting boom with the cylinder on top. I have not seen this offered to me. Do i need to ask separate to get both swing boom and boom with cylinder on top? It seems safer for digging, not sure if it's as strong as standard boom. Also can you tell me what lever is for swing boom? I also have 4 levers and 2 pedals, it would need one more to work correctly right?
The boom cylinder on top provides greater digging ability but sacrifices some lifting power. We currently have the Rippa R319 with a swing boom and a top-mounted boom cylinder in stock. Pricing is as follows: $6,400 for the B&S 13.5HP model and $9,000 for the Kubota D722 Diesel model. The swing boom is controlled by a button hidden on the left joystick.
Hello. Do you have the counterweight for the rippa?
Thanks
Hello,
Yes, we do have counterweights available for the Rippa R319. We also carry a wide range of other parts and accessories for our machines. If you need anything, please don’t hesitate to contact us at our email:
info@bisonequipmentandexcavators.com or give us a call at the numbers below:
USA: +1 (484)-334-5678
Canada: +1 (437)-660-8843
Looking forward to assisting you!
You are helping me out here with your research thank you. Does the heavier machine come with pilot controls and what is the price for that machine?
Glad I could help!
Overall, heavier machines are more likely to come with pilot control, as most non-pilot control machines are typically one-ton gasoline-powered models.
Is The Rippa 319 of good quality in your opinion?
The R319 offers the best quality for the money. Many machines are better than the R319, but they also cost more.
Great video, thanks! What’s your opinion on KIMA KMZ12 as a manufacturer and in quality compared to the diggers in your video?
I don’t know much about KIMA. Seems like a good machine tho-sorry I can’t help.
👍thanks for video 🙂
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it! 🙂
Great video！
Thank you !
YO ESTOY INTERESADO EN UNA RIPPA R-15 QUE OPINA ,,, ME RECOMENF¡¡DARIA OTRA MARCA ,, CALIDAD PRECIO ?????
I’d like to see a review of the Miva VA13E
Great video
Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. 😊 Let me know if you have any questions or need more info-I’m happy to help!
Do you ever get in any of the 15 series? I have been looking at the Diggit em15, ff15, jg15, and the miva VA15p. I am more interested the in the machines with the pilot controls.
We will have what you're looking for in stock by End of Nov, top quality machine in this 15 Class
I have a Miva VA15P, paid $5650 delivered, I’d buy another if I could😊 it’s well worth the money and more.
@@jonathanodell9507 Just email us at info@bisonequipmentandexcavators.com with your requirements, and we can send over walkthrough videos. Thanks!
This is the way
Many thanks
Thanks, Frank! Glad you liked it. More great content coming soon!
which would be better, NKL NW-18plus or FF Industrial FF-15?
I like the NW-18 Plus, but I think the FF-15 will be easier to source parts for.
@@bisonequipment Auction completed already. I picked up an NW-18. I liked that it has everything from hydralic filters and coolers, to Hydr-thumb and engine bay fans.
I only have an hour on it so far as I was waiting for new grease fittings since the ones they come with are make of crap. I flipped the engine bay fan and made a shroud so now it cools much better. Added LEDs around entire machine for being able to operate in the dark. I am waiting for some parts to arrive to try to fix the leaking gas tank. Also had to wire in my own kill switch since turning off the ignition doesn't kill the engine.
Overall I got what I was expecting and its already saved a few hours of back breaking work.
@@HellTriX Yeah, I do like the design of the NW-18 Plus, but since it’s not that popular, I’m a bit worried about finding parts down the line.
it’s awesome that it’s already saving you hours of hard work. Machines like that really pay off when you can customize them to fit your needs. Keep us posted on any new tweaks you make!
I can get a QH12R machine locally for $4500. Is a QH12R a good machine or should I consider getting a different machine?
Most AGT machines are sourced from auctions. If you’re buying from a reseller, you might as well purchase directly from the auction. Buying through a middleman means paying extra for their markup without necessarily receiving warranty or parts support. Additionally, AGT is essentially a rebranding company (I know they have a factory tour video on Facebook, but it’s misleading). For this reason, I recommend choosing machines that come directly from the factory.
Factory-direct machines come with a VIN plate, allowing the factory to identify the specific batch and provide better warranty service. If you decide to go with a factory-direct machine, look for local sellers with a physical store and a good stock of spare parts, like we do. This way, you can take advantage of the seller’s parts and warranty support. Even if the seller goes out of business, you can still contact the factory directly to purchase parts for a fee.
If you don’t have local dealers with a physical store and in-stock parts, feel free to contact us. We ship machines nationwide for just a few hundred dollars extra.
@ , thank you for the advise. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond. I have been watching your videos. They are very helpful and informative.
The local guy has four new units for sale, but no warranty comes with them. I don’t think there are any legitimate resellers near me, who offer a warranty or stock replacement parts. The closest legit reseller, who stocks replacement parts, offers Kymron units with a one year warranty. His location is a two hour drive from me. The Kymron units are $8000 plus tax and the additional cost for shipping, or trailer rental and fuel costs to go get it myself.
My thoughts were if parts are actually available for the GH12R machines, like pumps, drive motors, ext., I could buy a lot of parts for that additional $4000 I would save buying locally with no warranty. I agree buying with no warranty is a big gamble. My understanding is if I can get a warranty, it would be good for one year at best.
My biggest concern is availability of vital parts after the warranty period. That is more likely when I would need to replace something serious, since I would likely have less than forty hours on any excavator the first year. Do you know if hydraulic pumps and drive motors are actually available for these machines in the states, or do the pumps, drive motors have to come direct from China. Do all QH12R machines all use the same drive motors and pumps, are do they vary from machine to machine? If these QH12R machines are rebranded variants and not identical, then after warranty repairs would likely be a nightmare anyway, no matter where I bought it.
I will continue to look for a reseller who stocks parts and offers a warranty. I may ultimately end up spending $1500 to $2000 on a local rental of a Kubota U17 ( $300 per day 8 hours use per day ) to handle my immediate project, burying twenty-four tree root balls. We had a tornado last summer that took down 24 trees on our property. My immediate need is what got me thinking about buying a cheap Chinese machine. If a cheap Chinese machine would actually dig twenty-four holes 4 to 5 feet deep, my net out of pocket differential to own a small machine, that I could be available on site at my discretion, would be $2500 to $3000.
I subscribed to your channel and will continue to follow your progress. You certainly have provided a lot of good information about your personal machine. Looks like you are improving on the functionality of your machine. I look forward to seeing how the add-ons work to improve the smoothness of operation and longevity of the machine. Thanks again for your advice.
@@jacklabloom635 hi Jack! Hope you and your family have a great holiday !
Thank you so much for your support and for subscribing! Your feedback really motivates me to keep improving and sharing more helpful content.
Regarding your questions, critical components like hydraulic pumps, engines, and drive motors are relatively easy to find in the U.S. However, smaller parts, like specific hydraulic adapter or control relay, can be much harder to source. Local hydraulic shops and online stores often don’t carry these items, and even machines from the same model line can have differences due to optional configurations, making parts non-interchangeable. These small issues can sometimes cause weeks of downtime.
We currently offer a 1-ton machine for $5,900 with a one-year parts and powertrain warranty, which might be a better option compared to spending an extra $4,000 on other machines. We stock parts as always, ensuring you have access to what you need. Renting could also be a good choice, especially for an efficient machine like the Kubota U17, saving you both time and effort. You could try negotiating better rates for a longer rental period.
Thanks again for watching my videos, and I look forward to hearing more from you! Feel free to ask anytime.
your excavators are made in China?
The biggest part of the weight difference is the options. Seisan has a hydraulic thumb and also a swing boom.
The Seisan SE-12 in this video is equipped with a mechanical thumb, not a hydraulic one. Even with the addition of a hydraulic thumb and swing boom, the weight difference would not be as much as 600lbs for an excavator of this size. Thank you for your comment, if you have any other questions feel free to let us know!
What is the difference between the part 1 of 2 and part 2 of 2?
Part 1 covers diesel machines, and Part 2 covers gas machines.
what about vicsec machines
It's an auction rebranded machine; you can't go wrong with it if you buy it at a very low price.
Hello, thanks for the video, you are great I tried to get a contact in China for Saisan excavators but was unsuccessful. Do you have a contact for Saisan excavators? Thanks in advance
You can contact them through their email: sales@seisanmachinery.com or if you feel comfortable, please send me your email and I’ll let their salesperson contact you.
Hi. We supply quick change device for mini excavator
You should do a dig test with all of them, a trench 3 feet deep and 6 feet long
In this series, we plan to organize and test everything, then provide a final statement to guide people on how to evaluate the machines. We'll also be doing some on-site comparisons soon!
hydraulic pilot only possible with dual pump .This conclusion is not accurate.
The gray SAAO machine has a dual pump, but I didn’t mention that the other machines are pilot control.
@ 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
There so many to choose from...so may brands .... and way off with there prices
You're right, John-there are so many brands and price ranges out there, it can be overwhelming. That’s exactly why we're testing and comparing everything in this series, to help people make better decisions. Stay tuned for more!
Trump will fix this problem 😂
And make American a 3rd world country at the same time..