Savage Lee Enfeild No 4 Mk 1

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @JamieMG
    @JamieMG Год назад +7

    Every Canadian household should have a 303Brit behind the door ;)
    Sweet bud. Thanks for sharing
    303Brit has dropped its fair share of CDN game and then some. 😎

  • @ianmccutcheon6319
    @ianmccutcheon6319 4 года назад +14

    Never had any issue using Winchester ammunition in my .303's period. They always shot very well.

  • @thepaisanokid2738
    @thepaisanokid2738 5 лет назад +6

    I have a no4 mk1 that is free floated and glass bedded. Running a cheap Simmons 8 point 3-9×40. With 180 grain Cheap S&B ammo I'm getting right at about 1 MOA at 100 yards. The rifles have potential

  • @tripplebeards3427
    @tripplebeards3427 4 года назад +2

    I was given a sporter long branch. The gun was to far gone to put it back to original imo. It had Remington 700 sights drilled and tapped on it. Also a William's peep sight I tossed. The barrels was cut down as well. I bedded the front hand guard that was extremely loose, re blued the whole gun, polished the trigger so it now brakes at 3.5 pounds, and mounted a no drill scope on it. It took me three days of non stop foaming bore cleaner to remove all copper fowling. I made some schims today to place between the front of the scope
    mount and receiver to eliminate any flexing. I'd tell to check your scope rail for any flex or movment and to clean all the decades of copper fowling out of your barrel. Also check to see if the wood hand guard is not moving around.

  • @Mike-vk3mb
    @Mike-vk3mb 6 лет назад +13

    Cut stock so not getting upward pressure on barrel......

  • @MystikalDawn
    @MystikalDawn 4 года назад +2

    I have one of these sporterized by Parker Hale, they cut the barrel down on mine so I cant even restore it with the original wood. But it still gets decent groups out to 200M even with the winchester ammo.

    • @jordanlittle5391
      @jordanlittle5391 4 года назад +1

      because the old rifles had upward pressure on the barrel from the stock by cutting the barrel you increase accuracy by stiffening it

    • @travisstorbakken1737
      @travisstorbakken1737 2 года назад

      I acquired a Sporter done by Parker Hale about a year ago.

  • @markmanwaring3823
    @markmanwaring3823 7 лет назад +6

    and a cheek rest is a good start too

  • @colmatthews4146
    @colmatthews4146 6 лет назад +10

    different ammunition gives various points of aim each will require sighting in for that round find the best sight in stick to that

  • @richardd3663
    @richardd3663 5 лет назад +3

    I'm afraid I must agree with supporters, I shoot a No4, iron sights, Nato rounds, at 50yds get tight grouping, often one shot clipping another.

  • @Eggomania86
    @Eggomania86 6 лет назад +9

    I know with Enfields they are designed to be shot with the full stock, you need that tension from the front barrel band for it to shoot accurately. They like 174gr pills that emulate the mk.7 ammunition type. Also check your head space too. You can change your bolt head you can get different bolt heads. On an Enfield headspace is established by the bolt head. I'd check that. Also check the fit of the butt stock to the receiver. Enfields will shoot just as good as anything else you just have to know the nature of the beast. Also stay away from those no gun smithing mounts they are garbage!

    • @Patriotusa44
      @Patriotusa44 5 лет назад +2

      Actually I wouldn't say that about all non drill mounts. Had a Russian 91/30 MN that I put on a Jmeck clamp like mount and, over a course of 3+ years and 500ish rds, it was great. You just have to make sure everything is tight and you are doing your fundimentals.

  • @robertkay4889
    @robertkay4889 2 года назад +1

    Good video. I have the same rifle and found that Hornady 174 gr BTHP ammo has turned mine into a tack driver. I have it zeroed at 200 yes and have taken several whitetails, 1 trophy Axis deer, and 3 monster 300 lb plus hogs using that ammo. Hogs were all head shots. I've recovered 3 rounds when dressing the animals and expansion was perfect. Only 1 round lost the jacket. Try that ammo for yours and see what you think. Oh...I sporterised my rifle with a Zytel monte Carlo stock.

  • @duster0066
    @duster0066 4 года назад +1

    lol the comments. I had a Yugo 24/47 barreled action only I put in a plastic stock. That thing was a dog. It's the only gun I ever had that might not hit the berm. No chit a couple of times they tumbled right out of the muzzle. The muzzle was shot out on that gun. I cut the barrel to 18" and built a brush rifle out of it. It shot great when done.

  • @Godzilla691138MW3
    @Godzilla691138MW3 7 лет назад +4

    That's strange, my lee enfield doesn't have the far back screw where it looks like it holds your scope mount on.

  • @DevilbyMoonlight
    @DevilbyMoonlight 5 лет назад +2

    from my experience the no4's require a few lbs of down pressure at the muzzle end to maintain good accuracy because the way the barrel is made they were not designed to be free floated, they have a contact point which applies down pressure at the front end, so if you chop the stock and keep the original barrel your groups will be bigger because it no longer has this down pressure, this is why its not recommended to chop the stocks unless you fit a thicker barrel, proper bedding and the correct amount of down pressure which if memory serves is about 2-4lb on these old ladies is absolutely critical - its been almost 40 years since I used a no4

  • @Bryan14220
    @Bryan14220 6 лет назад +7

    Does that Mount Hold Zero?
    Many People Say Those No-Gunsmithing mounts do not hold Zero.

    • @Uzeil21
      @Uzeil21  5 лет назад

      In a word, no.

  • @markmanwaring3823
    @markmanwaring3823 7 лет назад +20

    Clearly you have minimal understanding of bedding ,or free floating ,metal fouling / not patching out between different projectiles / loads,barrel fouling , or how the No.4 Lee Enfield works and shoots . Do not blame the rifle ,get some knowledge about what you are shooting and doing . Check your head space , scope mounts , all rifle screws etc , bed the action , clean the barrel ,then start again .Start at 50 with 4 round groups . UNTIL you can put 3 of 4 touching don't move , barrel heat is NOT the problem ,shooter impatience ?Breathe , steady aim fire ,no longer than 3 to 4 seconds or start again . These rifles DO SHOOT ! find the loose screw!

    • @pepperoni-prepper
      @pepperoni-prepper 4 года назад +1

      keep in mind this is the US 2 groove cheap version. I have to admit though, even a smooth bore shotgun shoots better than he has managed. I would definitely point the finger at the user and the tuning. My fav SMLE was the lithgow #1 mk3 from australia. outstanding rifle, and accurate out to 500m.

    • @markmanwaring3823
      @markmanwaring3823 4 года назад

      He also has minimal cheek weld on butt . These rifles do better with the full front furniture and clamp the muzzle tight . I usually set the muzzle in silicone after floating the barrel , seems to work and tightens the groups . These rifles generally don't shoot well sporterised .

    • @markwebster9455
      @markwebster9455 3 года назад

      Mine is also the 2 grove cheap version, it shot very similar to this one in the video when I bought it, I bedded the action, adjusted the barrel up pressure to 3lbs, and polished up the worn trigger surfaces, it now shoots 3/4” MOA groups with hand loaded ammo, I’m very pleased with it!

    • @markmanwaring3823
      @markmanwaring3823 3 года назад

      @@markwebster9455 You have hit it right on the head , bedding , barrel stability and a good trigger ,,,and the 2 stage Enfield trigger is a delight when the surfaces are free of defects . The bore diameter on the military barrels DOES vary too ( quite a bit lol . The condition of the muzzle is key also , a dirty pull-through , combined with a lazy rifleman , is a recipe for disaster .

    • @markwebster9455
      @markwebster9455 3 года назад

      Thanks Mark, I agree about the trigger, since I last shot the rifle I’ve improved the trigger further, it didn’t have much of a first stage and the second stage was 7lbs, it’s now 3.5lbs in the first stage and a very crisp 5lb on the second, that’s pretty heavy compared to my other rifles but it feels really nice😀, I’ve also fitted a cheek riser and I’m gonna do some load development, my previous hand loads were just a recommended load which seemed pretty good but I think I’ll definitely be able to shrink my group sizes, will keep you posted.

  • @wazza33racer
    @wazza33racer 3 года назад +1

    9-Hole reviews covered this issue well..........the surplus ammo is pretty ordinary, lousy groups. By contrast hand loads are much better. For example, Greek HXP surplus was 5 1/2 inches compared to hand loads grouping under 2 inches. Even then, these shoot best with 174 or 180 grain bullets and some working up to find the right load.

  • @davidm9214
    @davidm9214 3 года назад +2

    I braced my barrel at the end of the sporterized wood stock like the jungle Carbine Version and have great results. It's very accurate again at 200y. I used hose clamps so it kinda looks terrible but Ill change it one day.🇨🇦

  • @22Judoka
    @22Judoka 3 года назад

    Thank you for educating my mind!

  • @randy3577
    @randy3577 6 лет назад +4

    my mount held zero and i never had a problem. my savage made #4 shoots 1" groups at 100 with my hand loads and with federals. some lee Enfield are accurate some are not

  • @ung427
    @ung427 Год назад +1

    I don't see how it could be that accurate at all with the way that you are pulling the trigger.

  • @ericsotelo618
    @ericsotelo618 6 лет назад +1

    YOu should try loktite blue.. and torqueing those screws down. Is the barrel freefloated? should use a bell & Carlson al framing.. not wood

  • @chriscosby2459
    @chriscosby2459 4 месяца назад

    That 303 Brit is setup so sweet..😊

  • @mackenziebrock8137
    @mackenziebrock8137 5 лет назад +14

    Sporterising rifles is a crime in itself

  • @normann4016
    @normann4016 Месяц назад

    hi, whose manufacturer is the scope mount ? thanx

  • @mapharikhodani2486
    @mapharikhodani2486 Год назад

    Am enjoying shooting 303 British Lee Enfield

  • @lynnanderson5254
    @lynnanderson5254 11 месяцев назад

    Just a suggestion:
    The original ammunition used
    in your weapon for battle was over 200 grain. You may wish to increase your projectile size or inspection of your barrel for excessive wear.

  • @timhofstetter5654
    @timhofstetter5654 4 года назад +2

    You're yanking the trigger...!

  • @davidfriesen9512
    @davidfriesen9512 3 года назад

    I wonder if maybe the Winchester super x ammo isn't seated from the lands as optimly as the other brands

    • @davidfriesen9512
      @davidfriesen9512 3 года назад

      Apparently bullet seating depth can be the deciding factor for accuracy

    • @davidfriesen9512
      @davidfriesen9512 3 года назад +1

      Has anyone ever tried cooling the barrel with ice water or is that harmful to the barrel?

    • @davidfriesen9512
      @davidfriesen9512 3 года назад

      Cut the barrel down to 20 inches and see if it'll shoot straighter

    • @davidfriesen9512
      @davidfriesen9512 3 года назад

      Try shooting with the deresonator on the barrel. It's a rubber ring made by limbsaver. It shrinks groups because it dampens barrel vibration

  • @ashleyhill5824
    @ashleyhill5824 6 лет назад +2

    Great review I have a 1916 number 1 mark 3 all matching number rifle with a TR stamp on the right ride is says GR bsa 1916 SHT LE 3 * TR does that mean it was selected for conversion

  • @joelwarner3534
    @joelwarner3534 6 лет назад +1

    Are those ATI scope mounts

  • @m.s.769
    @m.s.769 6 лет назад +2

    I am often tempted to put a scope on mine but to heck with it - it's damned accurate with iron sights.

  • @josephmckenzie8953
    @josephmckenzie8953 3 года назад

    She liked those Federal 150 Gr. Keep feeding her those.

  • @pepperoni-prepper
    @pepperoni-prepper 4 года назад +1

    just to make sure, you were shooting 0.311-0.312 projectiles, and not 0.308 lol. never had much time for the 2 groove US version as it was a much cheaper mass produced version compared to the commonwealth rifles.

  • @laurentjrtherrien5131
    @laurentjrtherrien5131 Год назад

    The wood was cut to far back it has no rizer ring to tension up the barrel like normaly should

  • @gregwilliams386
    @gregwilliams386 Год назад

    Does the barrel drift when hot?

  • @mbeav05
    @mbeav05 8 лет назад +7

    I have the same gun as you and I've tried that exact scope mount. Always shook loose no matter how tight I made it. I ended about buying a another stock and put it back into its military condition. If you really want to put a scope on a lee enfield check out "riflechair". Its a Canadian youtube channel. And he has some info on scoping a lee enfield.

    • @Uzeil21
      @Uzeil21  8 лет назад +2

      If I ever got my hands on a re-barreled sporter I would look at scoping again but that rifle is better off in the condition I found it. It has more charm that way

    • @bonnivilleblackcherry9745
      @bonnivilleblackcherry9745 7 лет назад +3

      try thread locker on the scope ring screws. A lot of people have the same issue with a wide range of rifles because they skipped that step.

    • @dalanwanbdiska6542
      @dalanwanbdiska6542 4 года назад +2

      He uses the same bs no drill and tap scope receivers, those are shit. If you want quality scope mount get the badace mount from amazon. Comes with everything needed to mount the scope mount. It will never come off or lose zero. Your 303 is probably already sported with a cut stock so might as well just drill and tap with a side mount. Even those little 22lr rails on the 303 work better than no drill tap.

  • @wilmamcdermott3065
    @wilmamcdermott3065 4 года назад +1

    Mine shoots 1inch groups at 100 yards peep sights

  • @alexlecuyer5233
    @alexlecuyer5233 8 лет назад +20

    what are you doing critisizing this awesome rifle.... so disapointing.

    • @pepperoni-prepper
      @pepperoni-prepper 4 года назад +2

      People who were not brought up shooting the SMLE tend not to understand the finer details that get this rifle shooting accurately. I assume however, this is however the mass produced US two groove version, and not the commonwealth rifles that made it famous.

    • @terrybrown5402
      @terrybrown5402 3 года назад

      It would be awesome if it weren't sporterized

    • @thehuntersheritage1
      @thehuntersheritage1 3 месяца назад

      @@terrybrown5402I’m trying to throw a scope on mine right now for elk hunting but don’t want to spend 135 on the mount lol she might just stay stock

  • @wilmamcdermott3065
    @wilmamcdermott3065 4 года назад

    Scope mount ?

  • @lobster6792
    @lobster6792 5 лет назад +1

    My dad gave me my grandpas after he passed away and it’s my first gun ever

  • @McNastehP
    @McNastehP 6 лет назад +2

    You really need to bed it in the original tyle of forearm if you want to see any kind of accuracy.
    The lee enfield doesnt utilize a fully floated barrel like what I assume you have there.
    Look up a channel called "enfield accurizing" and you will learn all about how to set up this rifle to at least 2-3 moa given your bore is nice and sharp.

  • @brianhodgkinson3176
    @brianhodgkinson3176 7 лет назад +7

    Not very impressive to be honest. At one point you suggest that grouping 6x4 is acceptable, then near the end you're clearly not impressed with your resu!ts.

  • @dalejacobson4449
    @dalejacobson4449 3 года назад +1

    I have never had a problem with my Lee 303 British, 1944 Jungle version. It came from Burma, 650 yards Dropped the Buck.

  • @FoneStar78
    @FoneStar78 2 года назад

    the original "canadian cowboy".

  • @easttexan2933
    @easttexan2933 4 месяца назад

    the chamber is shot out. I venture to say the neck is larger than a new unfired case. restore it to original condition and put it away.

  • @randykinder8346
    @randykinder8346 Год назад

    have a mark 4 308 built in canada

  • @mattluszczak6567
    @mattluszczak6567 4 года назад +1

    hey bud i have the same rifle , same markings!!! Hi freom Melbourne oz

  • @kennethwood713
    @kennethwood713 2 года назад

    throw on a Dougles barrel, check head space, now you have a tack driver

  • @davidhayes7596
    @davidhayes7596 2 года назад

    If it was me, I would check the head space.

  • @edwardabrahamiii3742
    @edwardabrahamiii3742 3 года назад

    Is that the 303 british??

  • @markmanwaring3823
    @markmanwaring3823 7 лет назад +5

    Look up setting up a Lee Enfield No. 4 rifle for accuracy ,so much info ,these are not simple rifles by any measure

  • @jghyee4240
    @jghyee4240 Год назад

    So nice gun❤❤❤❤

  • @johnlynch6695
    @johnlynch6695 7 лет назад +3

    I cut a 4x8 book in half with one of those stock ammo at 400 yards open sight . don't know what the hell your doin .

    • @Uzeil21
      @Uzeil21  7 лет назад +2

      Shooting a rifle with a worn out barrel.

  • @towarzyszbeagle6866
    @towarzyszbeagle6866 3 года назад

    I hope you restored this to original. Cutting down the No.4 like that and free floating the barrel always causes accuracy issues. These rifles were designed to have upward contact at the barrel on the underneath just before the front sight of about 4.5 pounds in pressure. They don't go well free floated.
    The best thing to do to get a No.4 shooting very accurately is to centre bed it. This is where you have the action bedded up to the knox (about 1 inch of barrel past the receiver), then have a bedding platform below the barrel at the centre stock band combined with padding material like cork under the hand guard above it to squeeze and free float the barrel from there.
    This type of set-up usually produces outstanding accuracy out of a No.4.

  • @DavidontheBayou
    @DavidontheBayou 5 лет назад

    Great video, I have one built in 1945, it was sportized, I haven’t shot it in quite a while but I’ll take it out and see what it does…

  • @Plainsimple67
    @Plainsimple67 4 года назад

    CORKING THE BARREL ON THAT SPORTERIZED RIFLE, WILL GIVE YOU GREAT RESULTS!!! GRANTED IF YOU STILL HAVE THAT RIFLE!!🤷‍♂️

  • @shadowstalker6762
    @shadowstalker6762 4 года назад +1

    Gonna just skip calling you an amatuer and assume the barrel is shot out its an enfield sporterized so they probly took an enfield in very poor shape so its cheap and sport it for even cheaper to actually make a small profit on the gun

  • @1945gmc353
    @1945gmc353 2 года назад

    My lee enfield savage I use seller and bellot no scope I can hit 4inch at 100 mtre

  • @jeffreybowers9152
    @jeffreybowers9152 2 года назад

    Try 180 gn Remington Core-lok

  • @noahway13
    @noahway13 3 года назад

    Be sure the scope mount iis tight.. The mounts are sketchy. That gun is not manufactured to get a scope

  • @andrewgoodwin9385
    @andrewgoodwin9385 6 лет назад +2

    Remington round nose shoots much better in my Enfield.

  • @amandaadkins8991
    @amandaadkins8991 5 лет назад +1

    Not letting barrel cool and obviously a bad mounting job for scope.must let barrel cool between shots to find any accuracy, far as groups are concerned.

  • @colmatthews4146
    @colmatthews4146 6 лет назад +4

    I watched second bit of video this is not representative of a good .303 very sad

  • @gunplow
    @gunplow 5 лет назад

    Best gun I ever owned

  • @toddbradford4700
    @toddbradford4700 5 лет назад

    Well if the rifling and crown in the barrel of that Enfield is okay (check both) then my bet would be that there is a problem with either the scope or the mount. I wouldn't be shocked to see 3 inch groups at 100 yards from an old Enfield but your shots are all over the place. Get a better mount. Those no gunsmith mounts suck. Try the scope on another rifle that you know shoots accurately to see if it holds zero. Or try another scope that you know is ok on this rifle. Last, if you want to test a rifles accuracy shoot it from some type of gun vice like a Lead Sled. Even from a rested position just shooting over a rolled up mat or blanket is testing your marksmanship skills as much as the guns.

  • @harrywp5785
    @harrywp5785 4 месяца назад

    Zero cheek support. Hi scope. How can that be good? We see this all the time.....

  • @rachetCD
    @rachetCD 5 лет назад

    I have a rare 5 round magazine with mine

  • @Dragonblaster1
    @Dragonblaster1 5 лет назад

    I could get better groups with my BSA r12 Mk 2 0.177 air rifle at 50m, and that's pretty extreme range for an air rifle. And having shot the Mk4 No 1 Enfield in competition at school at 100m, I know for a fact that they shoot better than that out of the crate. Even with iron sights, i'd expect better groups than that. Have a look at your barrel with a borescope, and your scope. Try it with iron sights.

    • @Dragonblaster1
      @Dragonblaster1 5 лет назад

      Yes, the scope. Those Point Of Aim shots were a lot better.

  • @artkillsevil
    @artkillsevil 2 года назад

    Dont finger bang the trigger just the tip of your finger pull so slow it surprise you and work on your breathing

  • @kevinmoor6408
    @kevinmoor6408 Год назад

    Removing the wood and endcap uppressure screw and Spring ruins the accuracy.

  • @moa.333
    @moa.333 8 месяцев назад

    Newfie Weatherby 😅

  • @thetacticalshooterandloado2709
    @thetacticalshooterandloado2709 2 года назад

    If you say this rifle is inaccurate it’s not the rifle it’s the shooter these rifles can put 5 shots in a 50. cent piece at 100 yards just saying and the fact that you don’t have a cheek riser on it is definitely your problem, gonna get parallax when your not resting your head on anything when your looking though the scope

  • @shawntruant7213
    @shawntruant7213 4 года назад

    I think that rifle needs to be properly beded

  • @bigguy5155
    @bigguy5155 3 года назад

    need to earn about military rifles they are battle rifles not pinpoint rifle ,i have 3 enfields none of them like 150 gotta have heavy bullets

  • @forrestbryant6309
    @forrestbryant6309 6 лет назад +2

    There are so many things wrong here i literally could not finish the video 1st if you want constistant shoot you have to use consistant ammunition and Winchester super X is anything but consistant. Try buying remington core lokt. Secondly your scope needs to be sighted in WITH CONSISTANT AMMUNITION. Operater error is a strong possibility here also either your scope is jumping like a cheap bb gun scope or the mount your using is not secure or steady. I dont mean to be rude but i have the lee Enfield MKVII or MK7 and have litterally shot a cup at 100 yards with just iron sights. If you dont believe its operater error remove your optic and try with your iron sights that will tell you the truth. I can tell you for sure its not the ID of the bore causing this because you shot multiple groups, even though you were off. If it were the ID of the bore you shot placement would have been much more chaotic and less consistant these are world class rifles made from fine materials, dont ruin the name, they were carried by the brits for over 70 years for a reason and have killed everything from rabbits in germany to elephants in india try and find whats going wrong here and then youll learn to appreciate this rifle.

    • @johnroos5807
      @johnroos5807 6 лет назад

      johnroosterrod65@gmail.com I agree, Forrest Bryant! When I went into the USMC in 1987, I thought I was a good shot. Boy was I wrong. I had to learn the Marine Corps way, and I went unc the first time I tried to qualify. I had to 'unlearn' the way I shot in the past. I shot as a Sharpshooter after, but I could only qualify as a Marksman that day. A year later I shot Expert, and shot 'Expert' until I had a stroke in Feb2001. I had to retire. It might be that a previous owner shot corrosive ammo and then didn't wash the salts out of the barrel and then wrecked the bore.

  • @gradyhernandez4699
    @gradyhernandez4699 5 месяцев назад

    303 British

  • @timirexhepi7888
    @timirexhepi7888 6 лет назад +2

    o

  • @jonsmith8083
    @jonsmith8083 5 лет назад +1

    So sad it was ruined by being sporterized

  • @robertunderwood1943
    @robertunderwood1943 5 лет назад

    Change scopes

  • @jasonshafer7305
    @jasonshafer7305 3 года назад

    recrown it , it may improve

  • @jaydee1532
    @jaydee1532 5 лет назад

    Remington ammo is better

  • @twiztidicp56
    @twiztidicp56 3 года назад

    Wow bub I can hit a qt oil bottle at 500yrds with the stock peep sights that came on that an you can't hit that with a scoop mounted to a .303 british

  • @parkyt13
    @parkyt13 2 года назад

    Sportotizing surplus is disgusting

  • @gregbetts8057
    @gregbetts8057 2 года назад

    i have one , but i find savage was a poorly made rifle , so many cost cuttings in manufacture i think its one of the enfield rifes to avoid unless its free , an even then id just pass on it

  • @christopherburns9838
    @christopherburns9838 5 лет назад

    Why the fuck do people sporterize war rifles just stop