@thetake remember in GiImoreGirIs season 4 episode 8 how Doyle criticized Rory's writing over and over and she accepted it and tried to improve?then when the baIerina criticized her,she tried to improve again?
I think that when children turn out “fine” we tend to forget or overlook all the messed up things their parents/family/people in general, did to them, which we shouldn’t. Honestly the fact that Haley succeeded in the end (if we ignore the last season) and didn’t end up with crippling self esteem issues and hatred towards her sister despite of how much she was made fun of is impressive in its own right.
It’s actually a horrific thing about life. The more you work and suffer and strive to be better, the LESS people believe you that anything bad happened. And if you sat down and asked people “oh okay so you think this brilliant intelligent talented well put together person is simply lying about everything?” And they said “yeah they must be!” It would be great if then you could say “ah so horrible atrocities must have happened for them to be a pathological liar right?” But even that doesn’t click for people. People cannot process that anyone they envy and feel threatened by had it worse than them. They simply cannot. Therapists can’t, families can’t, judges and juries can’t. They just cannot.
@@nataliaalfonso2662I don't think it's true that people can't fathom this but but I appreciate you bringing up this New perspective. The truth is that everyone has their problems they just have different problems. Everyone's dealing with something. And this is the reason for the way they behave not an excuse.
@@mr.e7541 I’m going to reiterate the main point of my statement: PEOPLE CANNOT PROCESS THIS ASPECT OF REALITY. They also cannot process how little people can process this. It IS TRUE. And only someone who cannot process what I’m saying would say it isn’t true. It is true. I’m not saying anything total, or all encompassing. It’s 100% true that people can’t process this fact of life. I didn’t say “every single person is incapable.” Clearly I think I’m someone that can process it. There are others. But the main point of my statement is that people cannot process reality. They cannot process trauma in the first place, and REALLY cannot process that someone can be severely traumatized and still better than others in myriad ways. You didn’t even process my statement. I assure you you cannot process the over arching truth I was referencing at all. If you could, you’d realize how often it’s true. You’d know…. Anything about life. You’d know it would be odd to argue that people can’t process reality. If you could process reality, you’d know MOST PEOPLR truly cannot. And you’d realize I never said “all people” so my statement would be perfectly true if even 2 people on earth couldn’t process it. Or at least one of each demographic example I gave. All it would take for my statement to be sound and valid and PERFECTLY TRUE would be ONE person from each example I gave to not process that very traumatized people can often seem better off than others. And that’s not the truth. In truth MOST people of every demographic example I gave and all others cannot process trauma or how resilient the truly traumatized can be. But, since your inability to process the truth makes you think people certainly must be able to process the truth…. You will continue to be the people I was referring to in my initial comment. The ones who can’t fathom quite how clueless the mass majority of people are.
I effing hate what they did to her, I wanted her to become a famous vlogger, instagram, influencer, etc, move to her own house and start dating someone who isn't Dylan. I tried liking him but just couldn't. It's like they didn't want people to leave that house.
Haley had many talents but her parents always DOUBTED her because she didn’t go the traditional path. She was good at photography, fashion and marketing…but hey let’s make Haley a 2nd version of young Claire🤡
Not to mention that Haley was beautiful and street smart, she was confident, had charm and had a great heart and compassion for others. That combined with her creativity and talent for fashion, photography, marketing/ social media would make her unstoppable if she had better parents who would have helped her utilizing all of the above.
Haley was initially a character I was more indifferent to and over the course of the show, she became one of my favorites. I think the moment when I started to really like her was when she told Alex not to give her speech at her middle school graduation and complimented her thus encouraging her to give a different speech. They began to grow closer and showed a different side to Haley.
My main complaint about Haley's story is that at the end of show she's working for that goop-type company. She had a career started as a stylist and then for some reason she ends up in this really stupid job for a company that's scamming people. Haley had potential, but the writers didn't let her realize that potential at all!
@@adagreve9836 Or they could have just refused to work with a company like this? They’re a big enough channel to not have to take every brand deal that comes across their desk. I thought they were the most liberal, body positive and feminist content creators. Now I’m not sure why I thought that
I believe Haley had the highest EQ of the family, and as she grew, she helped everyone else as well. There’s a lot of criticism about her character, but she represents an underrepresented member of a lot of families.
I was disappointed that Haley ended up with Dylan, her old boyfriend, and had his twins, instead of being with Andy. But then again, perhaps it's realistic, in that both had grown up emotionally by then.
Yeah, they could've introduced another really sweet dude. It's not like Hailey hasn't the opportunity to meet amazing people. Just because Andy's actor had to leave, doesn't mean that Hailey has to end up with a literal moron - she had matured and grown into her wisdom
Haley was right about a lot of things, but can you imagine if the family was poor? Haley wouldn't have the leeway to make mistakes and explore her life. She would have come off as an absolute waste of space. I'd like to see more explorations of lower class characters.
She was the most street smart, if she were poor, she'd be able to navigate through life with whatever she had. On the other hand, if her family isn't poor, why not use that in your favour?
In the two Dunphy Daughter's Claire and Phil had both kinds of smarts. Street smarts in Haley who has emotional intelligence and wit and charm and charisma and this little life hacks that help a person get by and navigate the world and book smarts in Alex who has the academic intelligence needed to be a high achiever but both sisters need each other to bring that balance in the world so while they are very opposite when we see those sisterly moments between the two they are genuine because both know that they need each other. They are each others opposite and equal in all ways. And by being essentially two sides of the same coin it meant that Luke could just be Luke and that quite freeing.
Props to Sarah Hyland, who gave a stellar performance despite having so many health challenges. Haley is overshadowed by everyone else because she was supposed to be the dumb airhead character, but I love that they made her a believable person who had to face unique challenges of her own.
Ozempic ad? Why? Edit: just took a look at other ads they had... casino... again, why? I went through a couple more videos and didn't see other more than questionable sponsorships, but they have 1.3k videos soooooo, that's not a good sample size.
I appreciate this take to a large degree at this point in my life. I've been between jobs lately, focusing on my emotional and mental health. I was in a position where I had the opportunity do that. The unsupportive and down right mean attitude I received from my older two siblings was over-bearing. They couldn't stand my unconventional approach I choose to build a beautiful future for myself. I'm working towards an associate's in computer science and really enjoy the work. To see someone like Haley facing this type of opposition and pressure is meaningful to me. I have a strong voice in the same way that she does. So people seem to pay close attention to my life decisions and the impact they have. Everything becomes more difficult than is necessary when people scrutinize you to an intense degree simply for being different.
@@ozymandiasultor9480it's the same thing as with great power comes great responsibility. It's not saying that responsibility is inherent to power. It's saying that if you have power you should use it responsibly. There are many forms of power money attractiveness likeability intelligence etc.
Your video talks about Haley often understanding what makes her special, but you’re advertising one of the enemies of self-esteem: a weight-loss drug. Disappointing.
My issue with Haley wasn’t that she seemed shallow or airheaded…she was spoiled and not very nice. And frankly, Claire and Phil let her get away with a boat load of nonsense.
The 90s are really back, advertizing weight loss drugs??? This really should be illegal. Never speak about body positivity again, drugs should not be advertized at all, and it's frankfully shameful that you decided to make a quick buck out of this
@@Angi3_6 the struggle should be to make healthy food affordable, not advertising weight loss drugs. The US is one of three countries in the world where advertising prescription drugs is even legal, it's honestly absurd. And to pretend drugs are the answer to an underlying issue is very naive.
Hailey definitely had it right & I say that as an Alex. Creating and executing a life plan 5th grade through college means you are marching towards a life your 12 year old self wanted. You are also only experiencing life to the extent your 12 year old self could image. In short, when you get to the destination you won't be impressed & wont remember much of the journey. Secondly, social/interpersonal skills are more important than every other skill combined. There isn't a door that skill can't open
I don’t think Failed Haley they gave Alex and Haley the life that Rory was supposed to have and she didn’t have a failure to society. That’s not good if you have 50+ videos made about you being a failure. I’m happy for Haley. I love that she I love that she had kids.
Gardner states there's at least 8 different types of intelligences. And Hailey's very intelligent, unfortunately not with the types that are known and praised from most of people in society.
You can sadly hear the absolute absence of emotions and life when the ad rolls in. And it's been going on for a while. It's very sad. I liked the channel but not anymore if the subject matter is immediately fucked up by an ad that goes against the moral of the video.
Although her character is typically a lot different from Penny's character on TBBT ,the similarity is obviously the dumbness but Penny's role in TBBT >>> Hayley's role in Modern Family. Hayley as lot of people mentioned was so spoiled! The makers showed exactly what they had to. She is indeed beautiful but an empty package.
I actually like her ending. It's not like she was thrown out into the street with her twins without any support just because she accidentally got pregnant. It's curveball that life threw at her, and she handled it as well as anyone in her position would.
I don’t hate the ending, is okay to get pregnant, that doesn’t mean is the end of your life. I think that they wanted to do something similar to her parents, Claire and Phill, that also got pregnant young and turned out to have, pretty much, a good life. Ps. I just don’t like that it was with Dylan.
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@thetake remember in GiImoreGirIs season 4 episode 8 how Doyle criticized Rory's writing over and over and she accepted it and tried to improve?then when the baIerina criticized her,she tried to improve again?
I think that when children turn out “fine” we tend to forget or overlook all the messed up things their parents/family/people in general, did to them, which we shouldn’t. Honestly the fact that Haley succeeded in the end (if we ignore the last season) and didn’t end up with crippling self esteem issues and hatred towards her sister despite of how much she was made fun of is impressive in its own right.
Yea she definitely has resilience been through a lot and so has Alex
It’s actually a horrific thing about life. The more you work and suffer and strive to be better, the LESS people believe you that anything bad happened.
And if you sat down and asked people “oh okay so you think this brilliant intelligent talented well put together person is simply lying about everything?”
And they said “yeah they must be!”
It would be great if then you could say “ah so horrible atrocities must have happened for them to be a pathological liar right?”
But even that doesn’t click for people.
People cannot process that anyone they envy and feel threatened by had it worse than them. They simply cannot.
Therapists can’t, families can’t, judges and juries can’t.
They just cannot.
@@nataliaalfonso2662I don't think it's true that people can't fathom this but but I appreciate you bringing up this New perspective.
The truth is that everyone has their problems they just have different problems. Everyone's dealing with something.
And this is the reason for the way they behave not an excuse.
@@mr.e7541 you definitely didn’t process it though. Lmfao.
So thanks for bolstering my point.
@@mr.e7541 I’m going to reiterate the main point of my statement:
PEOPLE CANNOT PROCESS THIS ASPECT OF REALITY. They also cannot process how little people can process this.
It IS TRUE. And only someone who cannot process what I’m saying would say it isn’t true.
It is true. I’m not saying anything total, or all encompassing.
It’s 100% true that people can’t process this fact of life.
I didn’t say “every single person is incapable.” Clearly I think I’m someone that can process it. There are others.
But the main point of my statement is that people cannot process reality. They cannot process trauma in the first place, and REALLY cannot process that someone can be severely traumatized and still better than others in myriad ways.
You didn’t even process my statement. I assure you you cannot process the over arching truth I was referencing at all.
If you could, you’d realize how often it’s true. You’d know…. Anything about life. You’d know it would be odd to argue that people can’t process reality. If you could process reality, you’d know MOST PEOPLR truly cannot. And you’d realize I never said “all people” so my statement would be perfectly true if even 2 people on earth couldn’t process it.
Or at least one of each demographic example I gave. All it would take for my statement to be sound and valid and PERFECTLY TRUE would be ONE person from each example I gave to not process that very traumatized people can often seem better off than others.
And that’s not the truth. In truth MOST people of every demographic example I gave and all others cannot process trauma or how resilient the truly traumatized can be.
But, since your inability to process the truth makes you think people certainly must be able to process the truth….
You will continue to be the people I was referring to in my initial comment.
The ones who can’t fathom quite how clueless the mass majority of people are.
I effing hate what they did to her, I wanted her to become a famous vlogger, instagram, influencer, etc, move to her own house and start dating someone who isn't Dylan. I tried liking him but just couldn't. It's like they didn't want people to leave that house.
lol that last sentence makes me think of it from a horror perspective where the house refuses to let them leave
Everyone after Andy was a downgrade.
Well yeah it’s a sitcom and they don’t want their characters to leave lol. More screen time for her if she’s in the house with the family.
Dylan was a cute character and could've had a fun arc of his own, but he was such a bad match for her.
@@alim.9801 yeah fr, Dylan was a funny first love for haley but andy was the perfect match for her. Too bad adam devine couldnt continue...
Haley had many talents but her parents always DOUBTED her because she didn’t go the traditional path. She was good at photography, fashion and marketing…but hey let’s make Haley a 2nd version of young Claire🤡
Not to mention that Haley was beautiful and street smart, she was confident, had charm and had a great heart and compassion for others. That combined with her creativity and talent for fashion, photography, marketing/ social media would make her unstoppable if she had better parents who would have helped her utilizing all of the above.
Haley was initially a character I was more indifferent to and over the course of the show, she became one of my favorites. I think the moment when I started to really like her was when she told Alex not to give her speech at her middle school graduation and complimented her thus encouraging her to give a different speech. They began to grow closer and showed a different side to Haley.
It's honestly a major miracle both Alex and Haley still talk to their parents after the way they were treated growing up
Haley and Gloria are my most favorite characters in the show. The way they read people and navigate themselves always got me in awe.
My main complaint about Haley's story is that at the end of show she's working for that goop-type company. She had a career started as a stylist and then for some reason she ends up in this really stupid job for a company that's scamming people. Haley had potential, but the writers didn't let her realize that potential at all!
The ozempic ad is crazy 😂
But notice the 'unenthusiastic ' tone they read the ad. Cool they're not hyping it up, but man why advertise this stuff at all
@@adagreve9836 Or they could have just refused to work with a company like this? They’re a big enough channel to not have to take every brand deal that comes across their desk. I thought they were the most liberal, body positive and feminist content creators. Now I’m not sure why I thought that
yeah! I'm shocked with this ad.
I believe Haley had the highest EQ of the family, and as she grew, she helped everyone else as well. There’s a lot of criticism about her character, but she represents an underrepresented member of a lot of families.
I was disappointed that Haley ended up with Dylan, her old boyfriend, and had his twins, instead of being with Andy. But then again, perhaps it's realistic, in that both had grown up emotionally by then.
I was happy bcs from the beginning Dylan loved her the most.
The thing with Andy is that the actor playing him had to leave the show, so it sucked but made sense why they had to pivot.
the way she ended up with Andy was degrading to her character. Ended up as a side chick
Yeah, they could've introduced another really sweet dude. It's not like Hailey hasn't the opportunity to meet amazing people. Just because Andy's actor had to leave, doesn't mean that Hailey has to end up with a literal moron - she had matured and grown into her wisdom
Haley was right about a lot of things, but can you imagine if the family was poor? Haley wouldn't have the leeway to make mistakes and explore her life. She would have come off as an absolute waste of space. I'd like to see more explorations of lower class characters.
She was the most street smart, if she were poor, she'd be able to navigate through life with whatever she had. On the other hand, if her family isn't poor, why not use that in your favour?
Isn’t that Married with Children?
@@Tontoquienloleationsmart street for middle class, not the same level of smart street required for poor people
@@jennifermassetti4670yeah, so if she were poor, she’d have a different level of street smarts to reflect that
Shameless is good at exploring high intellect but low sociopath economic status
Modern Family failed Haley yet she had amazing moments to shine
In the two Dunphy Daughter's Claire and Phil had both kinds of smarts. Street smarts in Haley who has emotional intelligence and wit and charm and charisma and this little life hacks that help a person get by and navigate the world and book smarts in Alex who has the academic intelligence needed to be a high achiever but both sisters need each other to bring that balance in the world so while they are very opposite when we see those sisterly moments between the two they are genuine because both know that they need each other. They are each others opposite and equal in all ways. And by being essentially two sides of the same coin it meant that Luke could just be Luke and that quite freeing.
Props to Sarah Hyland, who gave a stellar performance despite having so many health challenges. Haley is overshadowed by everyone else because she was supposed to be the dumb airhead character, but I love that they made her a believable person who had to face unique challenges of her own.
Ozempic ad? Why?
Edit: just took a look at other ads they had... casino... again, why? I went through a couple more videos and didn't see other more than questionable sponsorships, but they have 1.3k videos soooooo, that's not a good sample size.
Wtf was that an ozempic ad
Guys, wtf is going on with your ads? Where are your morals?
The girl made 500 in one night with her advertiment gig! Takes people a week to make that much. Put some respect on her name 😂
I appreciate this take to a large degree at this point in my life. I've been between jobs lately, focusing on my emotional and mental health. I was in a position where I had the opportunity do that. The unsupportive and down right mean attitude I received from my older two siblings was over-bearing. They couldn't stand my unconventional approach I choose to build a beautiful future for myself. I'm working towards an associate's in computer science and really enjoy the work.
To see someone like Haley facing this type of opposition and pressure is meaningful to me. I have a strong voice in the same way that she does. So people seem to pay close attention to my life decisions and the impact they have. Everything becomes more difficult than is necessary when people scrutinize you to an intense degree simply for being different.
With great hotness comes great responsibility.
That is laughable, of course, and so incorrect.
@ozymandiasultor9480 that is iconic
@@ozymandiasultor9480it's the same thing as with great power comes great responsibility. It's not saying that responsibility is inherent to power. It's saying that if you have power you should use it responsibly. There are many forms of power money attractiveness likeability intelligence etc.
Your video talks about Haley often understanding what makes her special, but you’re advertising one of the enemies of self-esteem: a weight-loss drug. Disappointing.
My issue with Haley wasn’t that she seemed shallow or airheaded…she was spoiled and not very nice. And frankly, Claire and Phil let her get away with a boat load of nonsense.
The 90s are really back, advertizing weight loss drugs??? This really should be illegal. Never speak about body positivity again, drugs should not be advertized at all, and it's frankfully shameful that you decided to make a quick buck out of this
“Rich people get Ozempic. Poor people get body positivity.”-Eric Cartman. The one time that Cartman was correct about something!
@@sammymeyer2937 Cartman is often right about things.
This was a hella dramatic response😂
We have an obesity epidemic. For many people, losing weight IS body positivity.
@@Angi3_6 the struggle should be to make healthy food affordable, not advertising weight loss drugs. The US is one of three countries in the world where advertising prescription drugs is even legal, it's honestly absurd. And to pretend drugs are the answer to an underlying issue is very naive.
Hailey definitely had it right & I say that as an Alex. Creating and executing a life plan 5th grade through college means you are marching towards a life your 12 year old self wanted. You are also only experiencing life to the extent your 12 year old self could image. In short, when you get to the destination you won't be impressed & wont remember much of the journey.
Secondly, social/interpersonal skills are more important than every other skill combined. There isn't a door that skill can't open
I don’t think Failed Haley they gave Alex and Haley the life that Rory was supposed to have and she didn’t have a failure to society. That’s not good if you have 50+ videos made about you being a failure. I’m happy for Haley. I love that she I love that she had kids.
Haley had superior emotional intelligence to Alex. That is what Haley’s greatest strength.
Haley was my favorite ❤
Haley is the perfect example of an elder sibling/daughter. I love how witty she was at times.✨
She was phenomenal as Charlie in Bumblebee.
I loved her lol what do u mean 😂 I hated Alex tho. She was so rude and annoying
Gardner states there's at least 8 different types of intelligences.
And Hailey's very intelligent, unfortunately not with the types that are known and praised from most of people in society.
You can sadly hear the absolute absence of emotions and life when the ad rolls in. And it's been going on for a while. It's very sad. I liked the channel but not anymore if the subject matter is immediately fucked up by an ad that goes against the moral of the video.
I loved Haley. 🤩🤣
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Although her character is typically a lot different from Penny's character on TBBT ,the similarity is obviously the dumbness but Penny's role in TBBT >>> Hayley's role in Modern Family. Hayley as lot of people mentioned was so spoiled! The makers showed exactly what they had to. She is indeed beautiful but an empty package.
She’s Emily in Paris
I actually like her ending. It's not like she was thrown out into the street with her twins without any support just because she accidentally got pregnant. It's curveball that life threw at her, and she handled it as well as anyone in her position would.
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I don’t hate the ending, is okay to get pregnant, that doesn’t mean is the end of your life. I think that they wanted to do something similar to her parents, Claire and Phill, that also got pregnant young and turned out to have, pretty much, a good life.
Ps. I just don’t like that it was with Dylan.
Haley was right about most thing but sometime her choice made me dissapointed in her
isnt it illegal to advertise prescription drugs
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is she "pretty" with those gollum eyes?