I finally lost it when they showed Howard Johnson visiting the crash site and tearing up over his son, Ronnie. As a father, watching this elderly man, broken by years of grief, crying tears for his boy, was just too much. He died in 2016 at the age of 88. I can only hope he is with his son once again.
My brother Randy Jackson was one of the survivors of that plane crash . I came home from school that day of the crash and saw my mama standing behind the screen door with tears in her eyes. I will never forget that day. Randy was blessed to play his senior year at WSU and in the NFL. My brother, since has gone on to be with his maker.
Why would a Marshall alumni feel a bond with a WSU alumni? It's probably obvious to someone who knows even a little about the two schools as I know nothing about either.
Actually, after seeing how old your comment is I'm just going to go look it up. Honestly, I don't know jack when it comes to colleges that aren't on the East Coast, NorthEast coast to be more specific. I always say that I'm gonna watch more college football this coming season but then I wake up.
@Michael Mace we don’t hear 👂🏾 much about the Wichita State plane ✈️ crash 💥 because their program folded in 1988, so they don’t get the recognition that they deserve. It’s just like the Evansville tragedy. The Wichita State and Marshall plane ✈️ crashes happened a month and eleven days after one ☝🏾 another. Wichita State have nine survivors while Marshall lost everybody. Plus, they made a movie 🎥 about Marshall which brings more attention to it.
I went to school in Shreveport, LA with Steve Moore, a linebacker who died in this tragic accident. His family moved to the Wichita area and of course I never saw him after that. Steve was a good football player and a wonderful guy, and it is so sad to watch this video. He was my friend.
I believe she graduated in 73. Small world, my uncle is a sportswriter for the shreveport times. I grew up in ruston and im back here again. i hope everything is going good for you bud.
That was my thought when I saw that at the end of this video. What a shame to end the football program... So many large Universities get more funds from the government than they truly need, yet this happens to WSU...
A beautiful tribute film to this tragedy. I was a student at WSU in 1970. Truly a sad time. Thank you for your efforts putting this together. I learned so much more than I knew.
1970 was a sad year. the Vietnam war, Kent State and Jackson State massacres, Marshall University plane crash and Wichita State plane crash 6 weeks apart. The deaths of Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin to name a few. My city college football and basketball team played Marshall in the past and now currently play Wichita State in basketball. May all these events be remembered.
I appreciate your historical reflection concerning 1970. I particularly became interested in the Jackson State massacres because I knew that it involved African-Americans loosing their lives in a senseless and overzealous manner! As with other "massacres" relating to the "Civil Rights Movement," the schemes of racism to quell the moment, including hurling verbal and physical attacks were complicit acts from local (residents & law enforcers) and governmental agencies!
Yeah he was my PE teacher at Robinson Jr high School yeah he was the man but I never new he played for WSU football team in tell I ran into this video and saw him
I grew up with Richard Stine. I was stationed at Denver for training in the USAF in 1970. I heard about the crash, but I didn't learn that he was on the plane until 1971 when I got back home on leave. His death put a terrible toll on his family. His father never got over it.
I am saddened to be 58 yrs old, an avid college football fan, and only now learning of this tragedy. I am a lifelong Ga bulldog fan, but from now on WSU is my second favorite team. This is heartbreaking. I will never forget.
I was in the marching band at what in 1970 was called Memphis State university. We played Wichita State several weeks after that terrible crash. Memphis coach Murphy played his 2nd team in deference to the Wichita State team which was at one quarter it's size. Whenever they made a first down or a successful pass, everyone in the stadium would cheer for them.
This was a film that I thought I would just watch with a passing interest, but it gripped me viscerally. I was 14 when it happened, and knew Loveland Pass very well. I've crossed it probably one hundred times, and when I saw the area, it struck me close to home. My daughter went to film school and worked with an Academy Award winning director. She has been to a current war torn area to talk with survivors from decades ago, and she has a feeling to respect the emotions of the person. I've also treated plane crash survivors, and they are extremely traumatic events. This was a moving tribute, and my utmost respect to all involved.
By far one of the best documentaries that I have watched in a long time. I never knew of this crash. I had a lump in my throat watching most of this. God bless the survivors and those that lost loved ones. I can’t imagine their pain.
As a graduate of marshall and going through what we went through as well, knowing what they went through, we will always have that connection to wichita state. May God grant you peace
I was glad to see this. So much attention has been given to Marshall and I remembered there was another tragedy but couldn't remember what college it was. WSU may have had fewer casualties but that doesn't make remembering it less important.
Amazing tribute to an amazing group of people lost too soon. I just today hiked to the crash site. Hats and buttons in remembrance are still there, and Terrie’s memorial is still there too. Never, ever forget.
I had always known the story of Marshall but never knew anything about this , crying like a baby at this moment. God Bless both schools and God Bless the ones who died and the ones who are still living. This coming from the Volunteer nation. ❤️❤️❤️🧡🧡🧡
Marshall happened only 3 weeks or so later after this awful crash. I can’t imagine how football teams could get on a plane after that month. Rest Young Men
I was a child when this happened. My heart goes out to families. 1970 was a year. Fifty years and feelings are still as fresh. My prayers to the families as they had to relive this event through the documentary.
I was a boy in Colorado when this happened and I remember it was big news but there were several facts I learned from watching this I did not know. It is not easy to straddle the line between impersonal and maudlin. I think the producers did a phenomenal job of letting you feel the emotions of this tragedy without drowning in them. It was a blessing that two planes were chartered and there are many colleges who do that now because they can see the differences between the Marshall tragedy and this one. Not to say the loss wasn't substantial but there was enough of a remnant to continue the season. God bless the souls lost and those who survived.
I remember seeing this on the TV here in Virginia when I was 10years old and felt bad for the families. At a young age it was hard to understand. This was a very good memorial video to WS players and the others that passed. For those players who have passed since the making of this video, may you have peace at last and the lord be with you. I bet they are playing one heck of a game against Marshall in Heaven. May the Lord be with those who have left us and to the survivors and families that are still with us.
Our son's football team travelled by bus interprovincally, and that was nerve wracking enough, I cannot imagine the parents and families affected by this plane crash. The Humboldt Bronco bus crash occurred approx. 130 kms from our home, the affect it had on the families and our province, I think to some degree we have remained in mourning since April 2018.
When this happend i wasnt even born ...thank you for making this video so that we can remember all the passengers that sadly died that they ...rest in piece to every one that died that day :(
As a Kansas State fan, I feel really bad for those that didn't survive and the few survivors, fans, and school. As others have mentioned, it's about time they bring back this football program as a memorial. I would cheer the hell on for them.
I remember seeing a memorial to the victims at WSU , I remember watching the last WSU team play on tv, Arkansas I read gave WSU a standing ovation after the last game of the season the year of crash , first class
@@Hof79905 Just before the exit from I 70 to US 6 look to the right and see a locked gate and an only road leading off to the north. This originally led to a storage area for equipment used for the boring of the tunnels. This road will go north but after several hundred yards keep looking left to see a cut in the trees, probably overgrown by now. This was made by a dozer working in the area in an attempt to gain access this cut uphill and then down grade again to the crash site. If i remember right, the hike took about 15 minutes.
I was 7 when this happened. My dad came home late that day. My mom was mad at first until she seen that he was crying. My brother and I were in bed at the time. We sneaked into the kitchen and sat on the floor listening to what my dad said as he was crying. My dad and others seen the plane crash as they were heading home after their shift. I won’t give any details of what I heard. And I will never forget that night. I am Happy to hear your cousin survived.
I was into my senior year at St. Louis U. in St. Louis Mo. Like my Billikens, WSU was a member of the Missouri Valley Conference so the tragedy hit close to home since, though we did not have a football team at SLU, we were basketball rivals and we were able to meet and even get to know some of their fans. It's hard to believe that 50 years have passed since then. That team will always be remembered. My sincere condolences to their families and friends.
The following year a Colorado high school lost 8 of their junior varsity players and a coach to a bus crash. September 11,1971 Gunnison High School. Made national news and changed the way buses were manufactured
Being intrinsically connected to both Marshall and Kent State, this brought emotions like I am connected to WSU. You all seemed to love each other. Even before the tragedy. I feel that spirit. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿❤
When operating a two engine aircraft over the Rockies, performance has to be respected. In an airline, one has to have a drift down alternate if one engine has to be shut down. With one engine shutdown, if the aircraft performance can not guarantee clearance of 2000’ above the terrain, an escape route (alternate airport) needs to be planned. This is an airport that the aircraft can safely run to with its weight/marginal performance. I know this isn’t the reason for the WSU crash, but was just another element the flight crew didn’t consider.
1970 must have been a bad year for football and aviation. Wichita state and Marshall both crashed. Surprised you don’t hear more of this since sports teams travel so frequently.
Watching the sad memories like this makes me understand why we have so many laws and regulations now. The whole firm and operations of said plane admitted to wrong doing yet were never held accountable and responsible for it. No, these people didn’t have it like we have it now in modern times. This was a time where your neighbors, friends and family were ALL family coming together in need. I couldn’t imagine being a survivor of all this that took place. Losing someone sitting right next to you in a blink of an eye with no control has to be the most chilling experience and feeling. Now it’s clear why people of that era fight so hard in modern times to hold people accountable. They do this so it doesn’t happen to the next generations of family and friends.
Went by the site many times in the eighties and nineties and never could understand how such a stupid thing the crew did. That airplane was all but worn out, overloaded and didn't have a prayer of getting over the Continental Divide. Saw one of those 404s parked across the street from Spartan in 1969 and both engines had large puddles of oil under them Crew's headset shorted out.
if anybody wants a great view of the Rocky Mountains, drive from Denver to Grand Junction, CO on I-70. Or take a Greyhound bus if you don't like driving steep, windy roads
I heard of the Marshall crash but never the Wichita State. The plane should not of been flying that low. Sounds like pilot error to me. R.I.P. all those that perished.
Absolutely not true. A tremendous amount of people nationwide are very much aware of the WSU plane crash in Silverplume. Just because it was not made in to a major motion picture does not mean people are unaware of the Shocker tragedy.
Who cares who knows? I’m happy to stumble upon this lovely documentary. There are thousands/millions of great stories that haven’t been told well yet ... to discover them is golden.
R.I.P. To All and My Sincere Condolence's To All Family and Friend's !! When i was 11yrs. old there was a song released in 1971 called ( D.O.A.) by the Band Bloodrock ( i remember hearing it on WHB Radio 710 A.M. Me and my older Sister and My Younger Brother) we shared a bedroom together(me and my Brother had bunkbed's) until My Parent's would later have addition's to our house and we would have our clock radio on to fall asleep with the timer on, but of course before falling asleep they played D.O.A. just month's after The Plane Crash of The Wichita State Football Team and this song and the eerie sound of the Keyboard's and Lyric's (putting those two together) Scared the CRAP out of me !! Rumor has it was about The Plane Crash of The Wichita State Football Team, but at 11yrs. old i believed it to be true (according to one of the musician's) that it was about a plane crash just not The Wichita State Football team !!
Very heartbreaking God bless these survivors for their strength as well as the family members who lost their loved ones may they always be remembered. Very sad to know the program had to end but hopefully it will one day return to honor these young men ❤️ May they all RIP 🙏🏻❤️☀️
I heard the plane was overloaded. They couldnt gain enough altitude over the mountains. Thise charter flights seemed to have a super high crah rate. With blatantly obvious stupid mistakes.
Oh wow, and I thought I was a lover of the game of football. Yaw this makes me so sad, as I had no idea. I was trying to find more information on Marshall as I love them and almost went to college there. In 90 when I was choosing my path, it was between Marshall and The University of Florida. My Father had been a basketball coach at Wilberforce, so I knew about Marshall, they left a mark on my young life. I can remember traveling with the football team at UF riding on Captain Jack, and this kind of sad situation always haunted me. I am so very sorry for this and possibly someone needs to do a movie about this, and give these special people, an opportunity as Marshall got, if that is what they desire. This is so so sad, and I know it is 50 years later, to the family, friends, fans, alumni etc., please know I just sad a special prayer for your hearts.... Blessings Reid
I certainly watched you play! It seemed as though the 1970s saw a lot of accidents, and by the time you flew on Captain Jack, air travel was so much safer. I never knew about this crash ... so unbelievably sad... GO GATORS 🐊
A movie sounds like a wonderful tribute to those lost, but not forgotten. Maybe proceeds of the ticket sales can fund bringing back the WSU football team?!
I was born in October of 71 - well after both the WSU and Marshall plane crashes. Growing up in the upper Midwest, I remember learning about WSU plane crash and that a 2nd college had suffered a similar crash. I didn't really know what facts belonged to which crash then. But I firmly believe that both Marshall and WSU are forever tied in their grief.
I remember the Marshall plane crash in November 1970. I was a 15 yr old kid staying all night with a friend, in Teavys Valley, WV only 20 miles from the Marshall plane crash.
The Marshal Team made a heroic comeback on the field. Watch the movie "We are Marshal" and you'll understand. Wichita State abandoned football.The movie is worth watching. My Uncle, Ray Coleman, and name sake, was the Shocker Club President, and passed in this crash I'm certain holding my Aunt Max in his arms.
@@raycoleman3238 The football program ran until 1986, I believe. They didn't abandon anything...money and politics. I would love a new Shocker football team!
It's a shame that this plane crash doesn't have the same ring as it did later that year when the Marshall plane crash happened. There was no fanfare for Wichita State like what they did to Marshall into a highly publicized movie and my feeling is that probably Wichita State's fan base possibly didn't want the experience that plagued Marshall after the movie came out. I'm glad they did a nice tribute to those lost.
Biggest difference of course is that Marshall was able to maintain a viable football program. WSU didn’t. We had a few winning seasons but 16 years after the crash the program was canceled. I was in third grade at the time. I remember watching Randy Jackson. He had a short NFL career and was my son’s middle school coach. Gus Grebe was a broadcast legend in WIchita. He would get so excited at football games that they hung a net below the press box window. I think it was a good, but he would get wound up. I had a history class with Dr Miner, interviewed in this piece. Very knowledgeable man regarding Kansas history.
I remember that day. Ii was only a freshman in high school. But I was watching TV I’d guess about 4.30 in the afternoon when news came. I was the one in my household who broke the news to the my family. Even as a kid I understood the magnitude of this event as told my family members. It was just a few years later that I was student on the WSU campus. I get excited about KSU and KU’s successes, but I’ll alway pull the hardest for my Shockers till the end of my days.
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I finally lost it when they showed Howard Johnson visiting the crash site and tearing up over his son, Ronnie. As a father, watching this elderly man, broken by years of grief, crying tears for his boy, was just too much. He died in 2016 at the age of 88. I can only hope he is with his son once again.
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My brother Randy Jackson was one of the survivors of that plane crash . I came home from school that day of the crash and saw my mama standing behind the screen door with tears in her eyes. I will never forget that day. Randy was blessed to play his senior year at WSU and in the NFL. My brother, since has gone on to be with his maker.
As an alumni of Marshall University, I have always felt a bond between us. May God bless you all.
For sure @Tim C. May God shine his light 💡 on Wichita State.
Why would a Marshall alumni feel a bond with a WSU alumni? It's probably obvious to someone who knows even a little about the two schools as I know nothing about either.
Actually, after seeing how old your comment is I'm just going to go look it up. Honestly, I don't know jack when it comes to colleges that aren't on the East Coast, NorthEast coast to be more specific. I always say that I'm gonna watch more college football this coming season but then I wake up.
@Michael Mace we don’t hear 👂🏾 much about the Wichita State plane ✈️ crash 💥 because their program folded in 1988, so they don’t get the recognition that they deserve. It’s just like the Evansville tragedy. The Wichita State and Marshall plane ✈️ crashes happened a month and eleven days after one ☝🏾 another. Wichita State have nine survivors while Marshall lost everybody. Plus, they made a movie 🎥 about Marshall which brings more attention to it.
Aren't you special.
I went to school in Shreveport, LA with Steve Moore, a linebacker who died in this tragic accident. His family moved to the Wichita area and of course I never saw him after that. Steve was a good football player and a wonderful guy, and it is so sad to watch this video. He was my friend.
What school in shreveport? My mom graduated from Byrd, my cousins from airline and loyola
@@heathfitzgerald363 Byrd H.S. 1965-1967
I believe she graduated in 73. Small world, my uncle is a sportswriter for the shreveport times. I grew up in ruston and im back here again. i hope everything is going good for you bud.
@@heathfitzgerald363 You too in this crazy year!
The football program deserves to be revived we owe it to them to bring it back.
ABSOLUTELY!
100%!
cmon koch brothers it’s like 5 bucks for you
That was my thought when I saw that at the end of this video. What a shame to end the football program... So many large Universities get more funds from the government than they truly need, yet this happens to WSU...
A beautiful tribute film to this tragedy. I was a student at WSU in 1970. Truly a sad time. Thank you for your efforts putting this together. I learned so much more than I knew.
1970 was a sad year. the Vietnam war, Kent State and Jackson State massacres, Marshall University plane crash and Wichita State plane crash 6 weeks apart. The deaths of Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin to name a few. My city college football and basketball team played Marshall in the past and now currently play Wichita State in basketball. May all these events be remembered.
Yes. I Agree I Was 20 When it happened, :(
Thank you for that collage of history.
The 1970s were a total bummer... 80s much better
I appreciate your historical reflection concerning 1970. I particularly became interested in the Jackson State massacres because I knew that it involved African-Americans loosing their lives in a senseless and overzealous manner!
As with other "massacres" relating to the "Civil Rights Movement," the schemes of racism to quell the moment, including hurling verbal and physical attacks were complicit acts from local (residents & law enforcers) and governmental agencies!
@@redeemquality9615 all races have suffered racism sir just saying. All lives matter
Randy Jackson was my P.E. coach in middle school. He is a man i will never forget.
Yeah he was my PE teacher at Robinson Jr high School yeah he was the man but I never new he played for WSU football team in tell I ran into this video and saw him
I grew up with Richard Stine. I was stationed at Denver for training in the USAF in 1970. I heard about the crash, but I didn't learn that he was on the plane until 1971 when I got back home on leave. His death put a terrible toll on his family. His father never got over it.
Horrible. Gid Bless them
Very sad ❤️
that is like the plane crash that killed all the US olympic team of figure skaters
I went to high school with Richard. He was a terrific human being.
Washington? Me too 1969 grad.@@chrisnstar
Living all my life in Huntington WV. We are Marshall.... We are United. I think it's time for you all to return to the program! Much love for you all!
Indeed @SteppUpProductions. Brick 🧱 by brick 🧱, step by step!
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Someday, I am going to get a Marshall shirt just to honor their memory.
I am saddened to be 58 yrs old, an avid college football fan, and only now learning of this tragedy. I am a lifelong Ga bulldog fan, but from now on WSU is my second favorite team. This is heartbreaking. I will never forget.
Go Dawgs
You only really hear about the Marshall plane crash. Crazy these both occurred within a month or so of each other.
Me too, my friend. I heard about Marshall, but I haven't heard about this one.
I was in the marching band at what in 1970 was called Memphis State university. We played Wichita State several weeks after that terrible crash. Memphis coach Murphy played his 2nd team in deference to the Wichita State team which was at one quarter it's size. Whenever they made a first down or a successful pass, everyone in the stadium would cheer for them.
That is awesome!! The 70's was a time when young folks had respect for one another. It's a darn shame those days seem to be in the past only...
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Respect...?
Kids today don't even have that word in their vocabulary 😢
50 years ago today. My heart goes out to those touched by this. Those that perished and those left behind.
Great documentary didn't even know about this. Good job at keeping their memories alive.
This was a film that I thought I would just watch with a passing interest, but it gripped me viscerally. I was 14 when it happened, and knew Loveland Pass very well. I've crossed it probably one hundred times, and when I saw the area, it struck me close to home. My daughter went to film school and worked with an Academy Award winning director. She has been to a current war torn area to talk with survivors from decades ago, and she has a feeling to respect the emotions of the person. I've also treated plane crash survivors, and they are extremely traumatic events. This was a moving tribute, and my utmost respect to all involved.
By far one of the best documentaries that I have watched in a long time. I never knew of this crash. I had a lump in my throat watching most of this. God bless the survivors and those that lost loved ones. I can’t imagine their pain.
I was at the game in little rock, I will never forget the respect that Arkansas fans showed when wsu scored that touchdown
Arkansas fans are trash
Did WSU score a touchdown? I thought the final score was 63-0 for the Razorbacks. (not that it really matters too much now).
As a graduate of marshall and going through what we went through as well, knowing what they went through, we will always have that connection to wichita state. May God grant you peace
I was glad to see this. So much attention has been given to Marshall and I remembered there was another tragedy but couldn't remember what college it was. WSU may have had fewer casualties but that doesn't make remembering it less important.
Amazing tribute to an amazing group of people lost too soon. I just today hiked to the crash site. Hats and buttons in remembrance are still there, and Terrie’s memorial is still there too. Never, ever forget.
A well-done documentary for those that perished, and, maybe, for those that survived as well. Kudos to the Arkansas fans that displayed such class.
I had always known the story of Marshall but never knew anything about this , crying like a baby at this moment. God Bless both schools and God Bless the ones who died and the ones who are still living. This coming from the Volunteer nation. ❤️❤️❤️🧡🧡🧡
Marshall happened only 3 weeks or so later after this awful crash. I can’t imagine how football teams could get on a plane after that month.
Rest Young Men
I keep coming back... God Bless all the families and people involved. Horrible tragedy.
I recently discovered that Howard passed. Father and son united again! RIP Howard.
To think the Marshall team would be wiped out a mere 6 weeks later, late 1970 was a terrible time for College Sport...
RIP
Was it the same pilot who was part of the wsu crash
Josh,
Dumb. Just dumb.
RESPECT TO ALL Including the people who helped make this wonderful tribute
Bless all that were affected by this tragedy.
Very poignant, cathartic and well-made tribute. Thank you for posting this. ✝ ❤ ✝
like the plane this film FAILED!
Not at all. It's a fine film and considering that so few GOOD documentaries and compendia about the 1970 WSU crash exist, this one is indispensable.
I was a child when this happened. My heart goes out to families. 1970 was a year. Fifty years and feelings are still as fresh. My prayers to the families as they had to relive this event through the documentary.
I was a boy in Colorado when this happened and I remember it was big news but there were several facts I learned from watching this I did not know. It is not easy to straddle the line between impersonal and maudlin. I think the producers did a phenomenal job of letting you feel the emotions of this tragedy without drowning in them. It was a blessing that two planes were chartered and there are many colleges who do that now because they can see the differences between the Marshall tragedy and this one. Not to say the loss wasn't substantial but there was enough of a remnant to continue the season. God bless the souls lost and those who survived.
I remember seeing this on the TV here in Virginia when I was 10years old and felt bad for the families. At a young age it was hard to understand. This was a very good memorial video to WS players and the others that passed. For those players who have passed since the making of this video, may you have peace at last and the lord be with you. I bet they are playing one heck of a game against Marshall in Heaven. May the Lord be with those who have left us and to the survivors and families that are still with us.
Very touching tribute to their memory Thank you.
Our son's football team travelled by bus interprovincally, and that was nerve wracking enough, I cannot imagine the parents and families affected by this plane crash.
The Humboldt Bronco bus crash occurred approx. 130 kms from our home, the affect it had on the families and our province, I think to some degree we have remained in mourning since April 2018.
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When this happend i wasnt even born ...thank you for making this video so that we can remember all the passengers that sadly died that they ...rest in piece to every one that died that day :(
As a Kansas State fan, I feel really bad for those that didn't survive and the few survivors, fans, and school. As others have mentioned, it's about time they bring back this football program as a memorial. I would cheer the hell on for them.
God Bless WSU - never knew about this whole story. RIP to all of them and keep their memory going!
I remember seeing a memorial to the victims at WSU , I remember watching the last WSU team play on tv, Arkansas I read gave WSU a standing ovation after the last game of the season the year of crash , first class
I have hiked to the site, and it is a very sad and somber place amidst the beauty of the mountains near Loveland Pass.
How does one find the exact location to hike to the crash site?
@@Hof79905 Just before the exit from I 70 to US 6 look to the right and see a locked gate and an only road leading off to the north. This originally led to a storage area for equipment used for the boring of the tunnels. This road will go north but after several hundred yards keep looking left to see a cut in the trees, probably overgrown by now. This was made by a dozer working in the area in an attempt to gain access this cut uphill and then down grade again to the crash site. If i remember right, the hike took about 15 minutes.
@@Hof79905 Watch Stephen Locke -Trek To Witchita State Plane Wreck here on youtube.
So very sad. My heart felt condolences to the family and friends.
My first cousin, Mike Bruce, was one of the 9 survivors.
I was 7 when this happened. My dad came home late that day. My mom was mad at first until she seen that he was crying. My brother and I were in bed at the time. We sneaked into the kitchen and sat on the floor listening to what my dad said as he was crying. My dad and others seen the plane crash as they were heading home after their shift. I won’t give any details of what I heard. And I will never forget that night. I am Happy to hear your cousin survived.
So tragic and sad. God bless all family and friends of those who perished and those who survived.
Beautiful documentary thank you for sharing ♥️
Wow...this was so sad. I never heard of this incident before but I do know about the Marshall University plane crash. Both happened in 1970.
All I knew about was Marshall
All I knew was Marshall
Ironically this happened about 6 weeks before Marshall crash
As a Bama fan, I was 1 year old at the time, never knew about this until recently. RIP and bless all associated with it.
I was into my senior year at St. Louis U. in St. Louis Mo. Like my Billikens, WSU was a member of the Missouri Valley Conference so the tragedy hit close to home since, though we did not have a football team at SLU, we were basketball rivals and we were able to meet and even get to know some of their fans. It's hard to believe that 50 years have passed since then. That team will always be remembered. My sincere condolences to their families and friends.
50 years ago.
God keep these wonderful souls!
Beautiful tribute
I'm not a Wichita fan but as an Alabama fan, we will remember the lives for those who lost their lives 😢😭🙏🌾🌾
What an extraordinary story.
RIP to all of those who died. Can't believe so much of the wreckage is still there.
Those young me will be forever young. May they, and all who died on that plane, RIP.
The following year a Colorado high school lost 8 of their junior varsity players and a coach to a bus crash. September 11,1971 Gunnison High School. Made national news and changed the way buses were manufactured
God Bless all of those involved in this terrible tragedy...... 🙏
Being intrinsically connected to both Marshall and Kent State, this brought emotions like I am connected to WSU. You all seemed to love each other. Even before the tragedy. I feel that spirit. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿❤
This should be a movie also!
Look for "We are Marshall"
@@MrRudyhj I know, I was talking about Wichita St! But they are pretty much the same
When operating a two engine aircraft over the Rockies, performance has to be respected. In an airline, one has to have a drift down alternate if one engine has to be shut down. With one engine shutdown, if the aircraft performance can not guarantee clearance of 2000’ above the terrain, an escape route (alternate airport) needs to be planned. This is an airport that the aircraft can safely run to with its weight/marginal performance. I know this isn’t the reason for the WSU crash, but was just another element the flight crew didn’t consider.
I have always had many unanswered questions from this tragedy. My father never got over this. Never.
Tom Owens from my home town, Tampa King High School was on that plane that fateful day.
God Bless you guys. You survived for a reason.
1970 must have been a bad year for football and aviation. Wichita state and Marshall both crashed. Surprised you don’t hear more of this since sports teams travel so frequently.
Incredible people, incredible survivors.
Incredible Legacy for the Future to be Added!
This was so sad.....God bless these families.
Wow that was really gut wrenching, love to all the survivors , families, friends. R.I.P.
A very close 2nd to Brian's Song in how touching this movie is.....
So sad. The survivors were changed forever.
Watching the sad memories like this makes me understand why we have so many laws and regulations now. The whole firm and operations of said plane admitted to wrong doing yet were never held accountable and responsible for it. No, these people didn’t have it like we have it now in modern times. This was a time where your neighbors, friends and family were ALL family coming together in need. I couldn’t imagine being a survivor of all this that took place. Losing someone sitting right next to you in a blink of an eye with no control has to be the most chilling experience and feeling. Now it’s clear why people of that era fight so hard in modern times to hold people accountable. They do this so it doesn’t happen to the next generations of family and friends.
Went by the site many times in the eighties and nineties and never could understand how such a stupid thing the crew did. That airplane was all but worn out, overloaded and didn't have a prayer of getting over the Continental Divide. Saw one of those 404s parked across the street from Spartan in 1969 and both engines had large puddles of oil under them Crew's headset shorted out.
Ojo Felix NM Your car leaks oil too, your tv shorts out so what.....neither caused this tragedy.
awful those poor boys..what was the flying crew thinking RIP TO THE YOUNG BOYS WHO ALL SHOULD HAVE LIVED
My condolences for everyone who tragically lost their lives on the field and in those planes, my god that had to be so unfortunate 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
if anybody wants a great view of the Rocky Mountains, drive from Denver to Grand Junction, CO on I-70. Or take a Greyhound bus if you don't like driving steep, windy roads
I still can’t believe WSU used to have football
It’s sad what happened 😢😢😢😢
and now they are going to tear the stadium down
I heard of the Marshall crash but never the Wichita State. The plane should not of been flying that low. Sounds like pilot error to me. R.I.P. all those that perished.
Both happened in same year yet it seems almost disrespectful to Wichita State that everyone only knows of the Marshall tragedy.
Absolutely not true. A tremendous amount of people nationwide are very much aware of the WSU plane crash in Silverplume. Just because it was not made in to a major motion picture does not mean people are unaware of the Shocker tragedy.
Who cares who knows? I’m happy to stumble upon this lovely documentary. There are thousands/millions of great stories that haven’t been told well yet ... to discover them is golden.
So sad, even today. God bless them all.
I ATTENDED WSU IN THE LATE 1970s AS A PSYCH GRAD STUDENT-VERY NICE PLACE-THEY HAVE A NICE MEMORIAL ON CAMPUS TO THOSE LOST IN THE CRASH.
R.I.P. To All and My Sincere Condolence's To All Family and Friend's !! When i was 11yrs. old there was a song released in 1971 called ( D.O.A.) by the Band Bloodrock ( i remember hearing it on WHB Radio 710 A.M. Me and my older Sister and My Younger Brother) we shared a bedroom together(me and my Brother had bunkbed's) until My Parent's would later have addition's to our house and we would have our clock radio on to fall asleep with the timer on, but of course before falling asleep they played D.O.A. just month's after The Plane Crash of The Wichita State Football Team and this song and the eerie sound of the Keyboard's and Lyric's (putting those two together) Scared the CRAP out of me !! Rumor has it was about The Plane Crash of The Wichita State Football Team, but at 11yrs. old i believed it to be true (according to one of the musician's) that it was about a plane crash just not The Wichita State Football team !!
Very heartbreaking God bless these survivors for their strength as well as the family members who lost their loved ones may they always be remembered. Very sad to know the program had to end but hopefully it will one day return to honor these young men ❤️ May they all RIP 🙏🏻❤️☀️
I guess this was overshadowed by the 1970 Marshall plane crash as I've never heard of it until now .... RIP.
I heard the plane was overloaded. They couldnt gain enough altitude over the mountains. Thise charter flights seemed to have a super high crah rate. With blatantly obvious stupid mistakes.
THAT WAS VERY SAD
i heard about Marshall but never knew about Wichita, it was a sad year for college football
Faron Lancaster collage?
@@rapman5363 opps
Yeah I was surprised I hadn't heard of it either.
I've heard of the Marshall crash a million times...but never this one. Not sure why.
Because a portion of the team died in one of the two aircraft, and not tts entire team in the same plane with Marshall.
Oh wow, and I thought I was a lover of the game of football. Yaw this makes me so sad, as I had no idea. I was trying to find more information on Marshall as I love them and almost went to college there. In 90 when I was choosing my path, it was between Marshall and The University of Florida. My Father had been a basketball coach at Wilberforce, so I knew about Marshall, they left a mark on my young life. I can remember traveling with the football team at UF riding on Captain Jack, and this kind of sad situation always haunted me. I am so very sorry for this and possibly someone needs to do a movie about this, and give these special people, an opportunity as Marshall got, if that is what they desire. This is so so sad, and I know it is 50 years later, to the family, friends, fans, alumni etc., please know I just sad a special prayer for your hearts.... Blessings Reid
I certainly watched you play! It seemed as though the 1970s saw a lot of accidents, and by the time you flew on Captain Jack, air travel was so much safer. I never knew about this crash ... so unbelievably sad...
GO GATORS 🐊
A movie sounds like a wonderful tribute to those lost, but not forgotten. Maybe proceeds of the ticket sales can fund bringing back the WSU football team?!
This story is so so sad def hits home🏈💔✨
I was born in October of 71 - well after both the WSU and Marshall plane crashes. Growing up in the upper Midwest, I remember learning about WSU plane crash and that a 2nd college had suffered a similar crash. I didn't really know what facts belonged to which crash then. But I firmly believe that both Marshall and WSU are forever tied in their grief.
And it's crazy to think that what a month after this Marshall happened
I remember the Marshall plane crash in November 1970. I was a 15 yr old kid staying all night with a friend, in Teavys Valley, WV only 20 miles from the Marshall plane crash.
makes you wonder why there was a movie made about the Marshal crash, but not about this one?
The Marshal Team made a heroic comeback on the field. Watch the movie "We are Marshal" and you'll understand. Wichita State abandoned football.The movie is worth watching. My Uncle, Ray Coleman, and name sake, was the Shocker Club President, and passed in this crash I'm certain holding my Aunt Max in his arms.
@@raycoleman3238 The football program ran until 1986, I believe. They didn't abandon anything...money and politics.
I would love a new Shocker football team!
To make a movie a movie requires someone to fund it, no matter how good a story is,
To make a movie a movie requires someone to fund it, no matter how good a story is,
To make a movie a movie requires someone to fund it, no matter how good a story is,
So young, forever young rip
It's a shame that this plane crash doesn't have the same ring as it did later that year when the Marshall plane crash happened. There was no fanfare for Wichita State like what they did to Marshall into a highly publicized movie and my feeling is that probably Wichita State's fan base possibly didn't want the experience that plagued Marshall after the movie came out. I'm glad they did a nice tribute to those lost.
Biggest difference of course is that Marshall was able to maintain a viable football program. WSU didn’t. We had a few winning seasons but 16 years after the crash the program was canceled. I was in third grade at the time. I remember watching Randy Jackson. He had a short NFL career and was my son’s middle school coach. Gus Grebe was a broadcast legend in WIchita. He would get so excited at football games that they hung a net below the press box window. I think it was a good, but he would get wound up. I had a history class with Dr Miner, interviewed in this piece. Very knowledgeable man regarding Kansas history.
God bless those boys
I remember that day. Ii was only a freshman in high school. But I was watching TV I’d guess about 4.30 in the afternoon when news came. I was the one in my household who broke the news to the my family. Even as a kid I understood the magnitude of this event as told my family members. It was just a few years later that I was student on the WSU campus. I get excited about KSU and KU’s successes, but I’ll alway pull the hardest for my Shockers till the end of my days.
Very nice tribute! Very sad
Very sad and moving documentary
Incredible story. This should have been made into a movie/documentary like Marshall
Every time I drive up I-70 approaching the Eisenhower Tunnel, I always salute or tip my cap when I pass by the Memorial. YOU ARE NOT FORGOTTEN.
God bless the children and the parents of...
Air tragedies involving football teams (including rugby football) seemed to be a too common occurrence during the 1970's
You know, you're entirely right! 😮
I happen to be camping (boondocking) about ten miles from the crash site as I watch this film…
*STARTS @ **1:01*
Blame that guy who went on a site seeing tour on gold plane