Interesting. SCIENCE! My personal wow factor has been for a long time the "Curve Eq" sic, whatever it's called. I do pre Eq on input, if needed, basic amp knob tweaks, go to the cab curve, and if needed the final output eq. The cab curve eq is huge in my mind though. It's like using para Eq with real amps, but way better control in a modeler realm.
Hi. Is it possible to use some of these principles to create a 12 string simulator using the Pitch Shifter? Asking it do add 1 octave just for the lower strings freqs?
Another cool way to use the modifiers is if you have a 7 or 8 string guitar. You could set an EQ or amp tone stack to adjust the tone as you play lower or higher notes. By cutting bass on the lowest notes you would keep those tight and then make the higher notes sweeter by bringing it back in.
Okay, that's pretty fucking cool lol. Tone and feel aside, this is the kind of stuff that makes me feel like I'll never build another rig without a Fractal in it. The thing covers every base you can imagine, and even the ones you can't.
Leon...you're creeping up on 100K subscribers! When I first subscribed to your channel, you had just a few thousand subs. Well done sir. My favorite guitar channel on YT, by far!
a very cool trick indeed.. remembering back when you first demo'd it was quite eye opening.. I've never employed it in a live gig situation but I can envision using for certain songs that use short bursts of solo licks that then return to rhythm guitar duties.. this would be way easier than popping back and forth on my FC-12.. thanks LT for refreshing this magical trick.
Fascinating. In my misspent youth I would marvel at how some of Ty Tabor's guitar parts seemed to have a dry, crunchy tone on the low strings but wet, shimmery tone on the high strings at the same time, theorizing that he must have some sort of split pickup system sending EAD to one amp and GBE to another. This was, of course, before I discovered bass players. 😅
Had my Axe 3 for 4 years and never looked at this preset but I do use the pitch follower in mine. I don’t use the delay and reverb too though….great idea! This is awesome Leon and thanks for sharing!
@@LeonTodd Awesome. Haha. It was a total reminder for me about the pitch follower. I've used it to pull the amp bass down on my amp block when I am playing low notes (poor man's MComp), but hadn't thought of doing more stuff like this. I'm already doing it to push in a little amp boost level into one of my lead scenes. So...Thank you!!!!
Indeed, one may tweak EVERY pickup, on Every Axe in their arsenal , as well as tweaking the instruments EQ to your liking as it listens to your every command, as you NOT think about dancing on a pedalboard. lol
This level of control is polarizing. The control freak half of my brain is at odds with the rational half.... You really need this..... Will I simply disappear down a rabbit hole and stop actually playing the guitar??
love this sort of Fractal magic, their modifiers are really killer in a lot of creative applications, i wonder if you used a 36 fret guitar at some point would it explode from hi gain and infinite feedback? 😄
Love the tones out of the Fractal units! There might be a few other products that do this as well: the Empress Effects Zoia, the Poly Effects Beebo / Digit / Hector, & the Great Eastern FX co XO. Empress & Poly have multi-FX built into their units, whereas Great Eastern is just a frequency crossover in a pedal. Just in case dropping that kind of cash on a Fractal isn’t in the budget, there’s more out there that can be a bit more budget friendly.
thats cool as hell. I just got my FM3 the other week, and its been a lot of fun. This is a great trick for sure- can see a lot of use for this. Is the pitch follower controller expensive to cpu? Im just brainstorming here, is using this technique conducive to adding a slight bit of volume boost (thinking a seamless rhythm to lead patch, single scene no need to switch or whatever). If so would you add that to the amp level? Just a couple of db pump
This is just awesomeinator stuff! Didn't even know this type of effects existed! I'm still using my AX8, dom you remember which factory preset to use for this feature 😇 Thanks for your work 🇸🇪🙏🏻
@@LeonTodd I see, thanks mate! Just wanna know, is it done with the pitch shifter or is this effect named pitch follower in the unit? I'm very unexperienced when comes to these deeper Fractal stuff 😂
Oh brother, there's one on gumtree (fm3) in the next suburb over (bussing distance) $1700.... I'm trying to scratch up the cash😢 but it might escape my Clutches. I'll keep ya posted 😂
@@implayingsomebass4753 I found it using the editor. When you open the Edit Modifier for the Input trim, for instance, you can select Pitch (Axe 3 is Pitch Follower) in the source list. Axe 2 is a bit different and it doesn't have attack and release controls, but you can tweak this using Damping control.
This is why anyone who says that Fractal is too complicated is full of bunk. This is the type of stuff I use to dream about doing back in the day. Thanks!
I think you misunderstand the criticism. Fractals aren't complicated; they are cumbersome and difficult to use in a live setting, and much easier to control via their software than the actual device. The UI and buttons on the actual unit are garbage compared to their competitors who are offering touchscreen integration and more obvious and smooth-lined controls. No one is saying Fractal is impossible to figure out - they are saying you could do the same thing with probably three other modelers in half the button presses and half the time, for sometimes half the price. Hell, you could buy a nice amp and some pedals and do it even easier, for around the price of one of these units. I've been with Fractal for a bit, and I'm ashamed of all the simps that pretend like this unit is the best there is and destroys the competition - it doesn't. It's good, but so is the Quad Cortex, Tonex, and a million other modelers. If Fractal releases a version with a touch panel where you essentially get the "edit" software at your fingertips (but also improves the software), then they'd be in a better spot, but after experiencing their customer service and forum, if I'm buying a new unit, I'd probably buy something else. Don't get me wrong, this feature is neat - but it's not really game-changing, and there ARE other modelers and units that do this.
@@KudaBear-jy1zl If 1% of what you wrote had an ounce of truth it might be worth reading. Some people read classic novels and others like picture books. There’s the best and then there’s the rest. Honestly for those that just play insanely distorted tones I imagine it doesn’t make much difference. But for real tube edge of break up and warm cleans nothing touches it. The FM3 price to feature blows everything away. Especially now. Oh and I misunderstood nothing. I’ve been around for a long time and seen a ton of gear…”cumbersome and difficult to use” is another way of saying complicated. Not sure what you’re proving and to who.
Very cool Leon :) I think this is great but I would like it to do the opposite - my lower strings are quite lower volume wise than my high strings - does that make sense ? need to figure out doing the opposite
I am first. I saw this and had to see it. That is the coolest thing since sliced bread. Very very cool sir.. ❤ Someone needs to make a pedal that does just that! ❤ I've got my Ibanez S all taken apart and soon I will be adding the holoflash. I'll send ya some pics when finished brother. ❤ That is so cool man. ❤ I love it man. That is too cool. Very very cool . ❤ That's like magic cool.. ❤❤ Be safe and well sir. ❤ Tim
I love your channel really leon i hope to jam with you its my dream ❤❤i have spark go positive grid i love this little amp but i love Also fractal i hope to jam with you leon 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🌟🌟🌞
I just don’t the bassss. There is none. Sounds thin weak and weak like you’ve dialled the volume knob on the guitar down to 1-2 on a highly driven amp. But you always get a lovely splashy and wet gain
What's your favourite Fractal magic trick?
Running a square wave out into an “in” to trigger ADSRs on demand. 🪄
Interesting. SCIENCE! My personal wow factor has been for a long time the "Curve Eq" sic, whatever it's called. I do pre Eq on input, if needed, basic amp knob tweaks, go to the cab curve, and if needed the final output eq. The cab curve eq is huge in my mind though. It's like using para Eq with real amps, but way better control in a modeler realm.
yeah that's nuts. like having a tech side stage pushing buttons. wow.
Hi. Is it possible to use some of these principles to create a 12 string simulator using the Pitch Shifter? Asking it do add 1 octave just for the lower strings freqs?
I use envelope as a controller for chorus. As I roll my volume down or pick lighter for cleaner sounds, chorus is automatically blended in.
Another cool way to use the modifiers is if you have a 7 or 8 string guitar. You could set an EQ or amp tone stack to adjust the tone as you play lower or higher notes. By cutting bass on the lowest notes you would keep those tight and then make the higher notes sweeter by bringing it back in.
Great tip! "Extended range auto-EQ"
Okay, that's pretty fucking cool lol. Tone and feel aside, this is the kind of stuff that makes me feel like I'll never build another rig without a Fractal in it. The thing covers every base you can imagine, and even the ones you can't.
So much energy gets spent splitting hairs over feel/accuracy that it's easy to forget about awesome things like this
Leon...you're creeping up on 100K subscribers! When I first subscribed to your channel, you had just a few thousand subs. Well done sir. My favorite guitar channel on YT, by far!
I massively appreciate that mate. Mind blowing how it's taken on a life all it's own!
a very cool trick indeed.. remembering back when you first demo'd it was quite eye opening.. I've never employed it in a live gig situation but I can envision using for certain songs that use short bursts of solo licks that then return to rhythm guitar duties.. this would be way easier than popping back and forth on my FC-12.. thanks LT for refreshing this magical trick.
Superb idea, it works well and a good explaination how this is dialed in.Thanks Leon.
Very welcome!
Very welcome!
This effect always blows my mind.
Fascinating. In my misspent youth I would marvel at how some of Ty Tabor's guitar parts seemed to have a dry, crunchy tone on the low strings but wet, shimmery tone on the high strings at the same time, theorizing that he must have some sort of split pickup system sending EAD to one amp and GBE to another. This was, of course, before I discovered bass players. 😅
Had my Axe 3 for 4 years and never looked at this preset but I do use the pitch follower in mine. I don’t use the delay and reverb too though….great idea!
This is awesome Leon and thanks for sharing!
Great to hear!
You're my favourite YT guitar channel.
Awesome! I'm pretty much sure you can do something similar in the gt-1000 using the dividers
It's such a cool and useful modification.
How have I not seen this trick until now? I've been nerding on an FM3 and FM9 for like 3 years now. Great stuff!
I basically make this video once a year because a) I love it b) some new people will get turned on to how fun it is!
@@LeonTodd Awesome. Haha. It was a total reminder for me about the pitch follower. I've used it to pull the amp bass down on my amp block when I am playing low notes (poor man's MComp), but hadn't thought of doing more stuff like this. I'm already doing it to push in a little amp boost level into one of my lead scenes. So...Thank you!!!!
Indeed, one may tweak EVERY pickup, on Every Axe in their arsenal , as well as tweaking the instruments EQ to your liking as it listens to your every command, as you NOT think about dancing on a pedalboard. lol
Brilliant!
This level of control is polarizing. The control freak half of my brain is at odds with the rational half....
You really need this..... Will I simply disappear down a rabbit hole and stop actually playing the guitar??
Like having a built in sound engineer!
love this sort of Fractal magic, their modifiers are really killer in a lot of creative applications,
i wonder if you used a 36 fret guitar at some point would it explode from hi gain and infinite feedback? 😄
Imagine a mandolin through that :p
@@LeonTodd 😄totally, i'm now half expecting an upcoming 5 minute tones on 'best hi gain amps for the mandolin' , could be a thing
Love the tones out of the Fractal units! There might be a few other products that do this as well: the Empress Effects Zoia, the Poly Effects Beebo / Digit / Hector, & the Great Eastern FX co XO. Empress & Poly have multi-FX built into their units, whereas Great Eastern is just a frequency crossover in a pedal. Just in case dropping that kind of cash on a Fractal isn’t in the budget, there’s more out there that can be a bit more budget friendly.
Yep. Everytime someone who loves Fractal says "only Fractal can do this" there are 20 examples of other people doing it...
WOW! That's super cool and useful. You could just leave that on and not worry about switching to a lead sound.
Absolutely!
Fantastic! 🤩
Thank you! Cheers!
Is there anything the Fractal can't do ?
that was great mate, cheers 🤘🤘
I love it - mind blowing! I just wish I had a Fractal. :/
VERY COOL!
So fun hey
That’s a “system seller” feature right there - Fractal should definitely be promoting that functionality in their marketing.
Agreed. It goes way beyond what "traditional" rigs can do
Sorcery abounds, I tell you! 🧙🏻♂️🎸
thats cool as hell.
I just got my FM3 the other week, and its been a lot of fun. This is a great trick for sure- can see a lot of use for this. Is the pitch follower controller expensive to cpu?
Im just brainstorming here, is using this technique conducive to adding a slight bit of volume boost (thinking a seamless rhythm to lead patch, single scene no need to switch or whatever). If so would you add that to the amp level? Just a couple of db pump
This is just awesomeinator stuff! Didn't even know this type of effects existed! I'm still using my AX8, dom you remember which factory preset to use for this feature 😇
Thanks for your work 🇸🇪🙏🏻
You'll have to roll your own. This was added to the Axe-Fx III factory presets not too long ago.
@@LeonTodd I see, thanks mate! Just wanna know, is it done with the pitch shifter or is this effect named pitch follower in the unit?
I'm very unexperienced when comes to these deeper Fractal stuff 😂
@@primaballerina84 You can't do it in your unit.
Oh brother, there's one on gumtree (fm3) in the next suburb over (bussing distance) $1700.... I'm trying to scratch up the cash😢 but it might escape my Clutches. I'll keep ya posted 😂
OOOOH great price!
Attention Line 6: Put this in the Helix!!
_Use this one trick to make your guitar skills OP_ 😁
😁
That's way cool! I'm in the stone age on a 2XL+, I'll have to figure this out!
I think you can still do this on the II
Axe II user here. It works! Look for source Pitch in the modifier panel and it will do the trick.
@@petruki I'll have to look again, I was not finding it using editor. Or did you do it with the on board controls?
@@implayingsomebass4753 I found it using the editor. When you open the Edit Modifier for the Input trim, for instance, you can select Pitch (Axe 3 is Pitch Follower) in the source list. Axe 2 is a bit different and it doesn't have attack and release controls, but you can tweak this using Damping control.
That's really cool
*Fractal GAS intensifies*
@@LeonTodd. Fm9 on marketplace today... Dude is looking for trades.... Can I give up a Les Paul !?? That is the question !! 😂😂
This is why anyone who says that Fractal is too complicated is full of bunk. This is the type of stuff I use to dream about doing back in the day. Thanks!
Fractals are as complicated as you need them to be. Criticisms from people like Rhett Shull that they’re too complicated are stupid
@@JavierPwns
💯
I think you misunderstand the criticism. Fractals aren't complicated; they are cumbersome and difficult to use in a live setting, and much easier to control via their software than the actual device. The UI and buttons on the actual unit are garbage compared to their competitors who are offering touchscreen integration and more obvious and smooth-lined controls. No one is saying Fractal is impossible to figure out - they are saying you could do the same thing with probably three other modelers in half the button presses and half the time, for sometimes half the price. Hell, you could buy a nice amp and some pedals and do it even easier, for around the price of one of these units. I've been with Fractal for a bit, and I'm ashamed of all the simps that pretend like this unit is the best there is and destroys the competition - it doesn't. It's good, but so is the Quad Cortex, Tonex, and a million other modelers. If Fractal releases a version with a touch panel where you essentially get the "edit" software at your fingertips (but also improves the software), then they'd be in a better spot, but after experiencing their customer service and forum, if I'm buying a new unit, I'd probably buy something else. Don't get me wrong, this feature is neat - but it's not really game-changing, and there ARE other modelers and units that do this.
@@KudaBear-jy1zl
😂🤣😂🤣
@@KudaBear-jy1zl
If 1% of what you wrote had an ounce of truth it might be worth reading. Some people read classic novels and others like picture books. There’s the best and then there’s the rest. Honestly for those that just play insanely distorted tones I imagine it doesn’t make much difference. But for real tube edge of break up and warm cleans nothing touches it. The FM3 price to feature blows everything away. Especially now.
Oh and I misunderstood nothing. I’ve been around for a long time and seen a ton of gear…”cumbersome and difficult to use” is another way of saying complicated. Not sure what you’re proving and to who.
Very cool Leon :) I think this is great but I would like it to do the opposite - my lower strings are quite lower volume wise than my high strings - does that make sense ? need to figure out doing the opposite
Yep, just change the modifier values to what you want
Thanks again Leon :) stay well
Has the name changed for the preset? 343 shows “intelligent arp” in my FM3 Edit, 1.06.07
I am first. I saw this and had to see it.
That is the coolest thing since sliced bread.
Very very cool sir.. ❤
Someone needs to make a pedal that does just that! ❤
I've got my Ibanez S all taken apart and soon I will be adding the holoflash. I'll send ya some pics when finished brother. ❤
That is so cool man. ❤
I love it man. That is too cool. Very very cool . ❤
That's like magic cool.. ❤❤
Be safe and well sir. ❤
Tim
Cannot wait to see and hear that beast man!
@@LeonTodd Thanks man. I sent ya a message on face book... Messenger.
I love your channel really leon i hope to jam with you its my dream ❤❤i have spark go positive grid i love this little amp but i love Also fractal i hope to jam with you leon 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🌟🌟🌞
I just don’t the bassss. There is none. Sounds thin weak and weak like you’ve dialled the volume knob on the guitar down to 1-2 on a highly driven amp. But you always get a lovely splashy and wet gain
i cant stand his tone
Yup. Always thin and horrible. Nice guy though, and good videos.
He almost literally uses a different amp model in every video…..HIS tone is pretty much only in the ragdoll videos