I have 3 al0’s on order. I wouldn’t look at the gold shell al box 2 unless it was under 1300 because I can get 2 al0 for just over 1400 and get more hashrate with less wattage.
Man, thank you for this content. My mind is blowing....I will grab one or two, I am not sure about that, but I want to speculate, maybe it works maybe not! But this video allow us get some variables to consider...So thank you again guy. Your job is fantastic.
I’m looking into mining , I got $1000 to spend on a miner, I would like the ROI to be within 6 months and to be profitable , I’m thinking about the IceRiver AL0 to mine ALPH, or the GoldShell KA Box Pro to mine KASPA , how did you choose tho ? Both KASPA OR ALPH are predicated to go up in price as for the coin, but idk if it’s too late to get into mining KASPA as ROI would be much longer than the ALO mining ALPH but at same time PROFITABILITY for ALPH is going down by the day, it was just at $15 / day with the AL0 last week now it’s like $10 a day . That’s still good but still that’s with the AL0 not being out yet and is pre order to come early September ish, idk, what do you think ? Should I grab the GOLDSHELL KA BOX PRO and mine KASPA , or the IceRiver AL0 and mine ALPH? Or just put that money into buying crypto or what ?
Bang on Mota. I've decided to grab one, and crossing my fingers Tswift will come out with an OC. I'm thinking by the time these get into our hands these will bring in 4-7usd daily before electric. 5.5-6.5 months ROI. Do we know what Nm these chips are? I'm thinking 5nm?? Goldeshell still selling the box 1 at 1500usd is just ridiculous, and your right they keep doing that. The box 1 should be 4-600usd mainly because of the efficiency. But I guess because they were first to the punch they think they own the pricing, but they are going about it all wrong. But I do like the craftsmanship. It's just hard to ROI the goldshells.
is there not bigger chance pb farmer and tswift will make alph updates for the ultra box first alot more money to be made on that, if it is the same machine
@@Hansen710 what do you mean... There already is overclock firmware for the Ultra... Which I have already installed.... Or do you mean the KSO will be updated to mine on Alph? If that's what you mean it's not possible.
i think its a no brainer. i picked up two. i love the idea of mining and generating passive income. i have the a strong belief in the project and think it will see at least a 5 x from here, conservatively. i see mining like DCA’ing. no matter the price its producing. the hashrate would have to go up exponentially to exceed power cost profitability. so long as its profitable im happy to keep it running. two will only cost me 1 aud a day
That's my exact mindset and that's the best way to view it , as a way to DCA , or as my buddy @hashforce coined, it's ECA , electric cost averaging. May work extremely well ,maybe not, but I think at worst it will "breakeven" overtime, I'm more of a proponent of yield vs fiat profitability. Either way , alph is one of my bull market holds that I want to continue stacking , so it works for me.
@@miningstacker especially with these budget asics, initial outlay aside i think its very hard to get in the red on these. like at least youll still be getting a little bit of clean profit. happy with it !
Picked one up. I just plan on stacking coins with this unit. Seems likely this unit will pay off to me unless people forget to sell the top and round trip the bull market 😅.
Im pretty sure in one of your older videos you made a comment that really had me thinking. For ALPH the price doesnt need to appreciate much more. It could stay right around this level and profits for ASICS are simply based on who has the most efficient hashrate. Sell pressure as miners go online wont mean much as long as price holds above a dollar. The big manufacturers only need to keep pumping enough to keep their units profitable. The bitmain units could 35x network hashrate and still have crazy profits at three to four dollar ALPH. I'm thinking the time to get into the project for profit was when it was less than fifty cents.
Yeah , the game changer was the entity lifting that hashrate before these units made it online and thats what also wrecked goldshell because it plummeted the yield so quickly , which is why they thought they could get away with that initial 15k price point because of that lead , but that entity quickly lowered rewards and wrecked their plan prematurely. So if there was no entity, would have been much more appealing initially to try and get that crazy yield , but not happening anymore as hashrate has already 4x'd between entity and goldshell prior to these iceriver/bitmain units. So now that initial phase is over and alph does need to appreciate to support a 30k Asic, unless they are very limited , which may happen , now that it got massively less appealing because the ks0 is matching the bitmain unit at scale. But yes , the biggest winners here are the ones who GPU mined it or bought as recently as last October at under .20 . The name of the game here is the hope for alph to have a massive run in the future and just let this 100w miner just stack. The better play here is potentially waiting for batch two /three once hashrate moons and yield/fiat profitability go down massively and prices come down on bigger models as long as alph continues chopping or goes down further, but if alph moons before then , kind of messes that plan up. Lots of variables here though , will have a better idea in Sept once we see where the hashrate is trending , but currently ok, but not too great.
Well, Iceriver are leaders for Alph miner and I need a bit suggestion on whether to get 3 of these Al0 or even 2 Al0 compare to getting one Jasminer X16q 1950 as the prices for jasminer are very low too?
I'm honestly waiting to see if they do release another model here in the next few days , but man, if it's the 1950 m/h jasminer , that's a pretty good deal, that's about the price of the x16qe. The jasminer will be more profitable for longer , 6 months later , odds are that AL0 won't be yielding much whereas the jasminer likely will be doing fairly well still.
When the original kS0 came out I tried to buy one but could not at the advertised price. I bought the coin instead. I did not make as much as those who mined since then but I also did not take the risk so I guess I made out ok. As for Alephium I have been mining it before the ASICs and have been doing ok.
I ordered 1, like in your prev. vids i told u i wanted the ks0 ultra, but glad i didnt, since its costed 1800kaspa to buy and only will yield like 1700 coins while mining + elec. costs. I just hope this miner will make profit and not loses like the ultra. The big difference for me was: Ks0 ultra vs ks5l = ks0 ultra = 30x ks5l which costs 9k. ks5l = costs 5k. with alephium the small unit is same price as the big. So i think it's a safer risk! Only to bad it's a lot more expensive :/ What do you suggest, ordering from iceriver self or other companies?
That comparison you did with ks0 ultra vs the ks5l is exactly why the ks0 isn't appealing for many of us, so excellent analysis there. This one will play out well in the long run I believe , will get bumpy for a bit when the hashrate increases , but do see good potential price action from alph next year , best play is to just stack and hold for next year. As far as where to order hard to say, not sure if we're going to get hit with the tariffs or not from ordering from Iceriver , if we don't , better deal is there as shipping is less. But to avoid that risk , resellers may be cheaper. If you are ordering multiple , will be cheaper from stores/resellers.
@@miningstacker i did buy from reseller (they said they will deliver faster than iceriver) for 885, iceriver was 850 :( . Did you buy 1? Do you think it's better for lifespan to add a fan on it? how can we put this best on the ground? vertically? put it on an iron plate? rubber?...
@@deviousme0234 putting a fan is ideal to help , we have to see how hot it gets to see what's better as some run hotter than others. Don't really need anything special , I literally have mine running on just a shelf behind me vertically, zero issues in 7 months.
@@deviousme0234 so kind of depends on the individual chips/unit , for example these new ks0 ultra's will actually perform worse in cooler temperatures and actually need to run fairly hot , many have had to lower stock fans to get it to temp , so really on a case by case basis as they all have their little quirks sometimes.
My plan is to wait until the first 1-2 batches go online and profitability goes way down so the next batches will not have a stupid price, hoping for a big Iceriver's unit like AL3 L/M, and hoping that ALPH price doesn't moon because if this happens, of course, the prices won't go down.
That is a good play and what I'm wanting to do for some of the bigger units if they go down aggressively. Think alph will do very well long term and would love a bigger unit at a decent price.
How is the home miner supposed to keep up with all these new releases? Was just thinking about a few KS0 ultras. Now, I'm not sure at all? I need to sell a few gpus first though.
Asic game is ruthless , especially this category as these are typically not the most efficient and cost effective. Especially when considering these algo's that are extremely high risk, this isn't a game that many win or excel at. Lots of research and analysis needs to be done to succeed.
ultras are just not worth it anymore. only first batch come close to getting as many coins as you could buy for the price of the machine + electric for all those months. if alph's hashrate skyrockets like kaspa...
Did purchase it through Iceriver direct , am in the US, and shouldnt have to pay the tariffs as it seems the threshold is 800 , my own personal experiment to see if this is true or not, 😂
Seems like that's the second batch. On the site its been going in/out of sold out status for the previous 8-15 to 8-31 window and is now back in stock showing that date, so think that's batch #2.
@@chickmagnet6004 it's hard to say , as I'm hearing conflicting things now , they're typical actual ship date is the last day of the window anyway so realistically that's when it would be actually shipping anyway. Kind of a weird situation, they're possibly just waiting to release a fatty initial batch, as it's likely sold very well thus far.
@@miningstacker ahhhh I see that makes sense, they are rounding up the last of us that are like f it I’ll jump in. This was a very smart play on their part.
It's going to be profitable for quite a while because of its efficiency, but will be like the original ks0 where it just won't yield much after a while once the hashrate goes up, just depends on how fast it goes up and how many big units come online.
Goldshell should make unit that only cost $799. If they want to target the home miner this is the price that really makes sense. If they can’t hit the target(bc of custom pricing) and power don’t release because they look dumb vs the more efficient units. As a consumer I don’t mind not having the most efficient unit as long as the density, power and price is with in 15% of the competition. I am willing to pay a little more for convenience, Goldshell’s record is that can’t compete on efficiency. They should be the iPhone on crypto miners, make is so easy to buy one unit that everyone buy one. Goldshell should target a home miner willing to have one unit vs the degen willing to have 10 ICERIVER units in a wire rack.
I think the smartest thing to is liquidity farm for a decent apr and step in with low investment in a machine. This way you profiton both sides of the equation
I think this is a "let the dust settle" kinda situation. Don't wanna pay 30k for a AL 1 and I don't want this little AL0 as the KA0 is a brick. Hopefully iceriver releases a AL 3 type of asic at around 5-10k then maybe I'm in
That I think is the ideal situation , really want to wait and see what this hashrate is looking like mid Sept , but who knows where alph's price will be . My best case is alph dumps from sell pressure , prices go down because of the fiat profitability going down after the hashrate/difficulty increase and the second batch goes down in price big time. Maybe alph pumps and that all goes down the drain , 😂, so many theoreticals , hard to really say what the best play is here.
I like the alph wallet alephium.org/#wallets I've had no issue with xeggex , you can use whatever exchange , sell into usdt , and can send to your favorite exchange and sell for USD.
I have not watched the video yet, but earlier they were making only 2 alph when the hashrate was high this morning, it is not even worth it at these current rewards
@@primerib7377 based on current profitability, I agree, just really depends on how hashrate goes, but even being conservative, still not looking too hot. Definitely just speculating on price mooning , causing hardware prices to go up, but not the greatest upside here.
i think we can pretty much compare this show to the current situation with kaspa specially because this smells like expensive kaspa miners on the specs kaspa is pretty much using the same amount of power to make profit as a btc miner now its not far from that point now
Very likely that is the better play, especially if it can't handle the potential sell pressure and dumps as these release. Lots of variables here. Definitely doing a combo of both.
@@miningstacker That makes sense. I'm in a ALPH/ETH pool on Uniswap to get some good yields, but putting it in a pool means you'll miss out on some gains from price appreciation.
I really hope so , I can't even talk about them without getting aggravated. It's borderline heartbreaking seeing how many people have gotten rekt by them in the mining community.
Taking notes hell no. They got what they needed constant schilling and people to buy their garbage. Yhe plebs are the ones who should HAVE been taking notes before they wasted their money.
No. why? by the time you get first drop profits will be half what they are now. then iceriver will flood market with AL0 followed with much more powerfull one. bitmain will follow. look at kaspa
Goldshell could kill the game right now. Give the people who purchased a ALBox II a coupon code for future discounts on a unit. Then release a Lite version that is same efficiency but 600 - 800 Watts. 🤦♂️ Goldshell need new marketing team.
Goldshell should make unit that only cost $799. If they want to target the home miner this is the price that really makes sense. If they can’t hit the target(bc of custom pricing) and power don’t release because they look dumb vs the more efficient units. As a consumer I don’t mind not having the most efficient unit as long as the density, power and price is with in 15% of the competition. I am willing to pay a little more for convenience, Goldshell’s record is that can’t compete on efficiency. They should be the iPhone on crypto miners, make is so easy to buy one unit that everyone buy one.
@@tk421303 kind of disagree, pricing needs to reflect profitability also. But needs to be priced in a manner that makes sense with real world profitability and needs to be in line with the competition. Realistically efficiency isn't crazy important as wattage is already low , 100w isn't going to make or break , but when a competitor is cheaper , better, and more efficient, doesn't make any sense to buy them. They need to be realistic with their prices and not over price and be so greedy and wreck their supporters and early buyers of their hardware. Their greed is what wrecks all these newer people coming into the space , they like to prey on the uninformed, which is where alot of my frustration lies with them.
doesent the power match the companys kaspa miners sounds like this should be around 250dollars the people that got first gen was not happy, will people be that with these...(its still first gen) kind of looks like kaspa mining on speed can a kso ultra run the sofware 😆
Yeah, definitely not super appealing , but just went ahead and got one just for potential future price appreciation , think we're just hoping that these manufacturers pump alph a bit , 😂
They just need to get their prices in check , hopefully all they start paying attention to all the negative feedback. Products are decent , it's the pricing that's just plain stupid at times.
@@miningstacker True, never owned a Goldshell but almost went for one of these. The way I see it is that Tswift will eventually get a firmware upgrade to make these AL0s do about 560 gh/s each which would make 2 of these hashing around 1 th/s. Wouldn't be so bad before the AL0 Ultras which are pretty much predicted to come out.
@WolfManCer 100000% , that's really the hope here, because then that will make it cheaper $ to T/h than bitmain, it's going to be a race for getting as much hash as possible so not too worried about efficiency difference. That would be a huge bonus for sure.
I have 3 al0’s on order. I wouldn’t look at the gold shell al box 2 unless it was under 1300 because I can get 2 al0 for just over 1400 and get more hashrate with less wattage.
Definitely, at this point it's too late now for paying that premium for being "early"
Man, thank you for this content. My mind is blowing....I will grab one or two, I am not sure about that, but I want to speculate, maybe it works maybe not! But this video allow us get some variables to consider...So thank you again guy. Your job is fantastic.
Thanks for watching brotha, appreciate you!
Really a very detailed video, introducing the most cost-effective ALPH miner
I’m looking into mining , I got $1000 to spend on a miner, I would like the ROI to be within 6 months and to be profitable , I’m thinking about the IceRiver AL0 to mine ALPH, or the GoldShell KA Box Pro to mine KASPA , how did you choose tho ? Both KASPA OR ALPH are predicated to go up in price as for the coin, but idk if it’s too late to get into mining KASPA as ROI would be much longer than the ALO mining ALPH but at same time PROFITABILITY for ALPH is going down by the day, it was just at $15 / day with the AL0 last week now it’s like $10 a day . That’s still good but still that’s with the AL0 not being out yet and is pre order to come early September ish, idk, what do you think ? Should I grab the GOLDSHELL KA BOX PRO and mine KASPA , or the IceRiver AL0 and mine ALPH? Or just put that money into buying crypto or what ?
Bang on Mota. I've decided to grab one, and crossing my fingers Tswift will come out with an OC. I'm thinking by the time these get into our hands these will bring in 4-7usd daily before electric. 5.5-6.5 months ROI. Do we know what Nm these chips are? I'm thinking 5nm?? Goldeshell still selling the box 1 at 1500usd is just ridiculous, and your right they keep doing that. The box 1 should be 4-600usd mainly because of the efficiency. But I guess because they were first to the punch they think they own the pricing, but they are going about it all wrong. But I do like the craftsmanship. It's just hard to ROI the goldshells.
@@RainBitcoins hard to say , that'd be my guess though at 5nm. We'll see how it plays out , really wanting to see the other models , if any.
@@miningstacker Thanks again for a great video Mota.
Tswift oc is already out
is there not bigger chance pb farmer and tswift will make alph updates for the ultra box first
alot more money to be made on that, if it is the same machine
@@Hansen710 what do you mean... There already is overclock firmware for the Ultra... Which I have already installed.... Or do you mean the KSO will be updated to mine on Alph? If that's what you mean it's not possible.
i think its a no brainer. i picked up two. i love the idea of mining and generating passive income. i have the a strong belief in the project and think it will see at least a 5 x from here, conservatively. i see mining like DCA’ing. no matter the price its producing. the hashrate would have to go up exponentially to exceed power cost profitability. so long as its profitable im happy to keep it running. two will only cost me 1 aud a day
That's my exact mindset and that's the best way to view it , as a way to DCA , or as my buddy @hashforce coined, it's ECA , electric cost averaging. May work extremely well ,maybe not, but I think at worst it will "breakeven" overtime, I'm more of a proponent of yield vs fiat profitability. Either way , alph is one of my bull market holds that I want to continue stacking , so it works for me.
@@miningstacker especially with these budget asics, initial outlay aside i think its very hard to get in the red on these. like at least youll still be getting a little bit of clean profit. happy with it !
Same 💯
Picked one up. I just plan on stacking coins with this unit. Seems likely this unit will pay off to me unless people forget to sell the top and round trip the bull market 😅.
That's my play , 100w and just going to let it stack as long as it can , long term think alph will play out well.
Im pretty sure in one of your older videos you made a comment that really had me thinking. For ALPH the price doesnt need to appreciate much more. It could stay right around this level and profits for ASICS are simply based on who has the most efficient hashrate. Sell pressure as miners go online wont mean much as long as price holds above a dollar. The big manufacturers only need to keep pumping enough to keep their units profitable. The bitmain units could 35x network hashrate and still have crazy profits at three to four dollar ALPH. I'm thinking the time to get into the project for profit was when it was less than fifty cents.
Yeah , the game changer was the entity lifting that hashrate before these units made it online and thats what also wrecked goldshell because it plummeted the yield so quickly , which is why they thought they could get away with that initial 15k price point because of that lead , but that entity quickly lowered rewards and wrecked their plan prematurely. So if there was no entity, would have been much more appealing initially to try and get that crazy yield , but not happening anymore as hashrate has already 4x'd between entity and goldshell prior to these iceriver/bitmain units. So now that initial phase is over and alph does need to appreciate to support a 30k Asic, unless they are very limited , which may happen , now that it got massively less appealing because the ks0 is matching the bitmain unit at scale. But yes , the biggest winners here are the ones who GPU mined it or bought as recently as last October at under .20 . The name of the game here is the hope for alph to have a massive run in the future and just let this 100w miner just stack. The better play here is potentially waiting for batch two /three once hashrate moons and yield/fiat profitability go down massively and prices come down on bigger models as long as alph continues chopping or goes down further, but if alph moons before then , kind of messes that plan up. Lots of variables here though , will have a better idea in Sept once we see where the hashrate is trending , but currently ok, but not too great.
Well, Iceriver are leaders for Alph miner and I need a bit suggestion on whether to get 3 of these Al0 or even 2 Al0 compare to getting one Jasminer X16q 1950 as the prices for jasminer are very low too?
I'm honestly waiting to see if they do release another model here in the next few days , but man, if it's the 1950 m/h jasminer , that's a pretty good deal, that's about the price of the x16qe. The jasminer will be more profitable for longer , 6 months later , odds are that AL0 won't be yielding much whereas the jasminer likely will be doing fairly well still.
When the original kS0 came out I tried to buy one but could not at the advertised price. I bought the coin instead. I did not make as much as those who mined since then but I also did not take the risk so I guess I made out ok. As for Alephium I have been mining it before the ASICs and have been doing ok.
You did well, if you GPU mined or bought when it was GPU mineable , those made out very well and will continue as price appreciates.
Probably going for one but only if first batch.
Waiting for the Al0 Ultra.
I ordered 1, like in your prev. vids i told u i wanted the ks0 ultra, but glad i didnt, since its costed 1800kaspa to buy and only will yield like 1700 coins while mining + elec. costs. I just hope this miner will make profit and not loses like the ultra. The big difference for me was: Ks0 ultra vs ks5l = ks0 ultra = 30x ks5l which costs 9k. ks5l = costs 5k. with alephium the small unit is same price as the big. So i think it's a safer risk! Only to bad it's a lot more expensive :/ What do you suggest, ordering from iceriver self or other companies?
That comparison you did with ks0 ultra vs the ks5l is exactly why the ks0 isn't appealing for many of us, so excellent analysis there. This one will play out well in the long run I believe , will get bumpy for a bit when the hashrate increases , but do see good potential price action from alph next year , best play is to just stack and hold for next year.
As far as where to order hard to say, not sure if we're going to get hit with the tariffs or not from ordering from Iceriver , if we don't , better deal is there as shipping is less. But to avoid that risk , resellers may be cheaper. If you are ordering multiple , will be cheaper from stores/resellers.
@@miningstacker i did buy from reseller (they said they will deliver faster than iceriver) for 885, iceriver was 850 :( . Did you buy 1? Do you think it's better for lifespan to add a fan on it? how can we put this best on the ground? vertically? put it on an iron plate? rubber?...
@@deviousme0234 putting a fan is ideal to help , we have to see how hot it gets to see what's better as some run hotter than others. Don't really need anything special , I literally have mine running on just a shelf behind me vertically, zero issues in 7 months.
@@miningstacker i would think the lifespan will extend if we can run it cooler? so vertically probably better? thanks for all the info already :-)
@@deviousme0234 so kind of depends on the individual chips/unit , for example these new ks0 ultra's will actually perform worse in cooler temperatures and actually need to run fairly hot , many have had to lower stock fans to get it to temp , so really on a case by case basis as they all have their little quirks sometimes.
My plan is to wait until the first 1-2 batches go online and profitability goes way down so the next batches will not have a stupid price, hoping for a big Iceriver's unit like AL3 L/M, and hoping that ALPH price doesn't moon because if this happens, of course, the prices won't go down.
That is a good play and what I'm wanting to do for some of the bigger units if they go down aggressively. Think alph will do very well long term and would love a bigger unit at a decent price.
Thanks for the info.
Good vid.
Thanks for watching brotha, appreciate you!
How is the home miner supposed to keep up with all these new releases? Was just thinking about a few KS0 ultras. Now, I'm not sure at all? I need to sell a few gpus first though.
Asic game is ruthless , especially this category as these are typically not the most efficient and cost effective. Especially when considering these algo's that are extremely high risk, this isn't a game that many win or excel at. Lots of research and analysis needs to be done to succeed.
ultras are just not worth it anymore. only first batch come close to getting as many coins as you could buy for the price of the machine + electric for all those months. if alph's hashrate skyrockets like kaspa...
May I ask where you purchased the AL0, and where you bought it are you expected to pay tariff tax being over $800, thank you
Did purchase it through Iceriver direct , am in the US, and shouldnt have to pay the tariffs as it seems the threshold is 800 , my own personal experiment to see if this is true or not, 😂
@@miningstacker I wasn’t quite sure when you add the shipping if that puts you over the $800 for tariffs, I was wondering if you might know thank you
It's the value of the asset for tariffs 799 charged. It is 800 under has no tariff fee in the US.
@@TheCasualGamer01 my thoughts does the $55 for shipping add to the $799 put you in tariff bracket were you have to have to pay, thanks
@@jeffkroeger946 shipping isn't included in the tariff. Only cost of product.
What wallets use for ALPH, i buy this small monster but where to store , any cold wallet dont have ALPH
I use their desktop wallet , no issues .
alephium.org/#wallets
@miningstacker Thanks, bro, for the information. I just made a wallet here.
My distributor said they pushed back the first batch to 8/31-9/10, is that true or did they release another batch already?
Seems like that's the second batch. On the site its been going in/out of sold out status for the previous 8-15 to 8-31 window and is now back in stock showing that date, so think that's batch #2.
@@miningstacker ah I see thank you! 🙏 they were trying to tell me it’s the first batch
@@chickmagnet6004 it's hard to say , as I'm hearing conflicting things now , they're typical actual ship date is the last day of the window anyway so realistically that's when it would be actually shipping anyway. Kind of a weird situation, they're possibly just waiting to release a fatty initial batch, as it's likely sold very well thus far.
@@miningstacker ahhhh I see that makes sense, they are rounding up the last of us that are like f it I’ll jump in. This was a very smart play on their part.
@@miningstacker That's the first batch of 31st, Aug-10th, Sep
I'll wait for the AL0Pro.. er.. I mean the AL0Plus.. yah..
Well , the new model ks0's have been coming out about every 6 months , so expect it to happen here again.
How long it profitable from now on sir ?
It's going to be profitable for quite a while because of its efficiency, but will be like the original ks0 where it just won't yield much after a while once the hashrate goes up, just depends on how fast it goes up and how many big units come online.
Goldshell should make unit that only cost $799. If they want to target the home miner this is the price that really makes sense. If they can’t hit the target(bc of custom pricing) and power don’t release because they look dumb vs the more efficient units. As a consumer I don’t mind not having the most efficient unit as long as the density, power and price is with in 15% of the competition. I am willing to pay a little more for convenience, Goldshell’s record is that can’t compete on efficiency. They should be the iPhone on crypto miners, make is so easy to buy one unit that everyone buy one. Goldshell should target a home miner willing to have one unit vs the degen willing to have 10 ICERIVER units in a wire rack.
I think the smartest thing to is liquidity farm for a decent apr and step in with low investment in a machine. This way you profiton both sides of the equation
💯 , people always get stuck in the mindset of only buying or only mining for some reason, take advantage of every way to stack !
I bought one cause why not.
Samesies , 😂
I think this is a "let the dust settle" kinda situation. Don't wanna pay 30k for a AL 1 and I don't want this little AL0 as the KA0 is a brick. Hopefully iceriver releases a AL 3 type of asic at around 5-10k then maybe I'm in
That I think is the ideal situation , really want to wait and see what this hashrate is looking like mid Sept , but who knows where alph's price will be . My best case is alph dumps from sell pressure , prices go down because of the fiat profitability going down after the hashrate/difficulty increase and the second batch goes down in price big time. Maybe alph pumps and that all goes down the drain , 😂, so many theoreticals , hard to really say what the best play is here.
Anyone here actually cash out their ALPH into USD? How’d you do it? What wallets do you use for ALPH?
I like the alph wallet
alephium.org/#wallets
I've had no issue with xeggex , you can use whatever exchange , sell into usdt , and can send to your favorite exchange and sell for USD.
@@miningstacker pretty low trading volumes across all assets from what I see on Xeggex. That doesn’t concern you?
@@miningstacker looks like xeggex has pretty low trading volume across almost all assets. That doesn’t concern you at all?
I have not watched the video yet, but earlier they were making only 2 alph when the hashrate was high this morning, it is not even worth it at these current rewards
@@primerib7377 based on current profitability, I agree, just really depends on how hashrate goes, but even being conservative, still not looking too hot. Definitely just speculating on price mooning , causing hardware prices to go up, but not the greatest upside here.
i think we can pretty much compare this show to the current situation with kaspa
specially because this smells like expensive kaspa miners on the specs
kaspa is pretty much using the same amount of power to make profit as a btc miner now
its not far from that point now
Still better to just buy the coin if you ask me, ALPH can be staked for 50-100+% ROI, so just buy a bunch, stake it and watch it grow.
Very likely that is the better play, especially if it can't handle the potential sell pressure and dumps as these release. Lots of variables here. Definitely doing a combo of both.
How do you stake a PoW coin? What options are there for ALPH?
@@toddpeterson5904 most likely talking about providing liquidity on ayin im guessing
@@miningstacker That makes sense. I'm in a ALPH/ETH pool on Uniswap to get some good yields, but putting it in a pool means you'll miss out on some gains from price appreciation.
Sure but mining is fun and a hobby. My first asic as well haha.
Next week, dealers will have real prices. It will be more cost-effective to buy from dealers. Believe me.
There are alot of rich investors to get the AL1.
There are indeed
I wonder if Goldshell is taking notes.
I really hope so , I can't even talk about them without getting aggravated. It's borderline heartbreaking seeing how many people have gotten rekt by them in the mining community.
@@miningstacker I feel like their biggest problem is greed.
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Im sure their watching, but taking notes, I doubt it. They havent in the past.
Taking notes hell no. They got what they needed constant schilling and people to buy their garbage. Yhe plebs are the ones who should HAVE been taking notes before they wasted their money.
No. why? by the time you get first drop profits will be half what they are now. then iceriver will flood market with AL0 followed with much more powerfull one. bitmain will follow. look at kaspa
Profits will be way less than half , bitmain also has the most powerful , and very likely there will be many other models.
Goldshell could kill the game right now. Give the people who purchased a ALBox II a coupon code for future discounts on a unit. Then release a Lite version that is same efficiency but 600 - 800 Watts. 🤦♂️ Goldshell need new marketing team.
They really really do, I don't get how they can keep messing this up so badly , it's actually aggravating it's so bad.
Goldshell should make unit that only cost $799. If they want to target the home miner this is the price that really makes sense. If they can’t hit the target(bc of custom pricing) and power don’t release because they look dumb vs the more efficient units. As a consumer I don’t mind not having the most efficient unit as long as the density, power and price is with in 15% of the competition. I am willing to pay a little more for convenience, Goldshell’s record is that can’t compete on efficiency. They should be the iPhone on crypto miners, make is so easy to buy one unit that everyone buy one.
@@tk421303 kind of disagree, pricing needs to reflect profitability also. But needs to be priced in a manner that makes sense with real world profitability and needs to be in line with the competition. Realistically efficiency isn't crazy important as wattage is already low , 100w isn't going to make or break , but when a competitor is cheaper , better, and more efficient, doesn't make any sense to buy them. They need to be realistic with their prices and not over price and be so greedy and wreck their supporters and early buyers of their hardware. Their greed is what wrecks all these newer people coming into the space , they like to prey on the uninformed, which is where alot of my frustration lies with them.
Goldshell are greedy
Weren't these Goldshell's going for like 8k at pre-order? How can a company be this useless?
AL1 initial batch was 15k. RIP. I just don't get it.
doesent the power match the companys kaspa miners
sounds like this should be around 250dollars
the people that got first gen was not happy, will people be that with these...(its still first gen)
kind of looks like kaspa mining on speed
can a kso ultra run the sofware 😆
Yeah, definitely not super appealing , but just went ahead and got one just for potential future price appreciation , think we're just hoping that these manufacturers pump alph a bit , 😂
they should give a free alph update to the people that got the ultra..
selling the ultra for 800 is just a scam
goldshell product is overpriced
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Exactly
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$ALPH will go to $4.5
Hopefully much higher next year 🚀
$25 next year
Goldshell needs to stick to doge LOL, they are a joke.
They just need to get their prices in check , hopefully all they start paying attention to all the negative feedback. Products are decent , it's the pricing that's just plain stupid at times.
@@miningstacker True, never owned a Goldshell but almost went for one of these. The way I see it is that Tswift will eventually get a firmware upgrade to make these AL0s do about 560 gh/s each which would make 2 of these hashing around 1 th/s. Wouldn't be so bad before the AL0 Ultras which are pretty much predicted to come out.
@WolfManCer 100000% , that's really the hope here, because then that will make it cheaper $ to T/h than bitmain, it's going to be a race for getting as much hash as possible so not too worried about efficiency difference. That would be a huge bonus for sure.