holy shit :DD lmao... 7:14 the new M2 is jumping out of the track... it's ironic that newer doesn't always mean better, and I have driven E46 M3 last month and it was a lot of fun despite being 20 years old
@@yuti6475 And despite all those mods, it's still slow as fuck in the corners. Why? Because it's 200 kg heavier than the F87. 🤣 And as everyone knows, weight is bay everywhere, acceleration, cornering, braking. That is pure physics. I had that thing on the Autobahn in front of me when I still had 459 hp dyno-measured (so same power) and from 100 kph it was slow because of the weight and over 250 kph it fell back like a stone because of it's aerodynamic which creates 13 % more drag than my car. So it basically needs 13 % more power to be at least as fast as I am. Then you have those ugly screens in the inside, the ugly outside (front and rear, side look is okay), I would always take a F87. Just because of the looks and of course the 200 kg less weight. But it was nice to watch two completely different cars, one fast in the straights, one fast in the corners. 😁
@@edc15deI don't think you know what you're talking about? I traded in my F87 OG M2 for the G87 M2, and that car surpasses the F87 in all areas! Creates more G force in cornering, stiffer chassis, better brakes, and that aerodynamics have been tested in the wind tunnel to create less air resistance than the previous generation M2. That 200kg extra in weight is negligible if the car as a whole has a better technical design. A Nissan GT-R with 500bhp also weight almost 1800kg and makes mincemeat of any F87 on the ring. Bye the way, the G87 M2 is even faster on the ring than the previous generation M2 CS😉
Roll cage doesn't add any extra speed or acceleration. The only mods are a quick remap to 410, which is still a lot less than the G87. 10 year older car, with the weight of a passenger, and it does very well when a superb driver can keep up with the latest and greatest that BMW can offer in 2 series form. The only time the G87 was gapping was on the straights where it's extra power came into effect. In the corners, the F87 with it's skinnier tyres was closing in every time. GREAT driver in a very good car.
@@j_saras True. I owned a 1 series for over 2yrs and we get long winters here. Trust me I know how fun this short base cars can be... My point is, I hate loose rear ends when Im trying to go fast on a racetrack... You have to work twice as hard to even get close to the laptimes of a stable or progressive rear end. Mercedes is the worst ones though! The rear end if their cars are very snappy. Which makes them sketchy even when sliding.
@@wmdeez11 Everyone has their preferences and usage of those cars. For track usage, you must have deep pockets to build the car properly adding up all the consumables that goes crazy with such a heavy car. It doesn’t make the best m2 for me. But yes, G87 will be the fastest M2 I’m sure 👍
@@willjames618 Mine is lighter, less powerful, smaller tires, and more. So less consumables by consequences. It only my opinion and can't deny your preference as I would love to try out a G87 that would be fully build like mine 🙂
crazy video
G87 M2 is such a good addition to the M family. Insane torque and great grip!!! Driver is a nut!
Great “fight” and a really fun lap, thank you for the joy to play with you. 👍
what amazing drivers! both of you guys
Thank you !
Superbe tour. Impressionnant la différence de moteur avec la G87. Et ensuite de châssis. Complètement aux amendes la blanche à Steilstrecke.
Merci ! Oui je ne peux rien faire face à la puissance de la nouvelle mais c'était un beau spectacle devant ✌
@@BlackBettyF56 on voit vite qu'avec un peu de châssis la G87 peut être monstrueuse 🤪
This video is gold
Thank you INSANITY !
Pouhaaaa ! Respect les gars !
Merci 🙌
That was a pretty bad ass lap by both of you. Person in G87 doing those drifts… 🙌🏼👍🏼 nice!
Thank you, we had much fun indeed !
Beau tour 👍
Wowowow the carrousel at the end...
Scary ! But he got this under control 😜
N55 slower in straight line but faster in bends
Elle est constamment en dérive cette M2 😏
Love it 💯🙋♂️
very good driver.....
Thank you !
Did the g97 m2 have any modifications ?
@@Marklp16 yes a few parts to be honest. 🫣😂
He needs a Wing :) and does he have a youtube channel? Crazy driver
His channel is (@j_saras) regards
Ça tourne fort par ici 😇
how come you chose sport plus and not traction or everything off?
i feel like sport + gives horrid steering feel compared to traction or dsc off
@@VFXmorgan In my case the car is coded, steering, abs, traction.
incredibile super
Thank you
holy shit :DD lmao... 7:14 the new M2 is jumping out of the track... it's ironic that newer doesn't always mean better, and I have driven E46 M3 last month and it was a lot of fun despite being 20 years old
Driver issue, the new M2 is in fact better. Faster around every track
How do you have the transmission sound like that?
I think it’s an aftermarket diff
Diff lift kit
Diff lift kit from Schirmer with hard bushings and Drexler diff
Is an N55 stock (engine)? 🧐
Just seen car specs 👌🏻 stock engine
410 on N55 is not stock
@@Elledollarahhhh, I was thinking in s55 instead, n55 370cv stock and s55 410cv right?
@@javier7004 N55 engine, stock is about 370. Here it has a flash tune for about 410. But the car is about to go to Schmickler for a proper mapping.
@@BlackBettyF56 Plan to do the crank hub 2/4pin to be safe ?
G87 Stock?
BMW M2 G87 2024.
Long list of modifications:
BMC sportluftfilter, M4 CSL engine mounts, CSF charge cooler, CSF oil engine cooler, Mishimoto water coolers (side), FEMTO unlock, MHD Super licens, Stertman Motorsport Stage 2 for track use, Stertman Motorsport stage 3 gearbox software, M4 CSL gearbox mount, CSF gearbox oil cooler, MILLTEK SPORT Downpipes with 100 cell high power race catalysts, Akrapovic Slip-on exhaust, Akrapovic Link-pipe (OPF delete), KW HAS kit, H&R swaybars, Millway Front Tension Strut / Thrust Arm Bushing Street, Millway Street camber plates Street, Millway Control arm toe rear (toe-link), Paragon Performance Products Inc. brake discs, Endless N39S brake pads front, Endless N39S brake pads rear, HEL brake lines, Motul RBF700 brake fluid, RacingBrakes steal conversation of brake caliper, LITE↯BLOX LB28XX and a few other things.
Apex 19"x11" wheels and Yokohama AD09 tires in 305x30 19" size.
@@yuti6475 And despite all those mods, it's still slow as fuck in the corners. Why? Because it's 200 kg heavier than the F87. 🤣 And as everyone knows, weight is bay everywhere, acceleration, cornering, braking. That is pure physics.
I had that thing on the Autobahn in front of me when I still had 459 hp dyno-measured (so same power) and from 100 kph it was slow because of the weight and over 250 kph it fell back like a stone because of it's aerodynamic which creates 13 % more drag than my car. So it basically needs 13 % more power to be at least as fast as I am. Then you have those ugly screens in the inside, the ugly outside (front and rear, side look is okay), I would always take a F87. Just because of the looks and of course the 200 kg less weight.
But it was nice to watch two completely different cars, one fast in the straights, one fast in the corners. 😁
@@edc15de should be the weight... its just too heavy...
@@edc15deI don't think you know what you're talking about? I traded in my F87 OG M2 for the G87 M2, and that car surpasses the F87 in all areas! Creates more G force in cornering, stiffer chassis, better brakes, and that aerodynamics have been tested in the wind tunnel to create less air resistance than the previous generation M2. That 200kg extra in weight is negligible if the car as a whole has a better technical design. A Nissan GT-R with 500bhp also weight almost 1800kg and makes mincemeat of any F87 on the ring. Bye the way, the G87 M2 is even faster on the ring than the previous generation M2 CS😉
@@tinodeblier5694 yeah, GT-R is criticized heavily for its weight and rightly so... it's just hype
So many mod with roll cage etc and still cannot overtake a new m2?
Roll cage doesn't add any extra speed or acceleration.
The only mods are a quick remap to 410, which is still a lot less than the G87.
10 year older car, with the weight of a passenger, and it does very well when a superb driver can keep up with the latest and greatest that BMW can offer in 2 series form.
The only time the G87 was gapping was on the straights where it's extra power came into effect. In the corners, the F87 with it's skinnier tyres was closing in every time.
GREAT driver in a very good car.
@@DjNikGnashers Thank you for your comment 👍👍
There's nothing more annoying that a loose rear end on track. Especially when you're not trying to drift.
To much power and to little grip in the rear tires, still a lot of fun. 🥰✌️
@@j_saras The short wheels base doesn't help either...
@@TunaNoKetchup true but make it easy to drift also. 😂🤣🙌
@@j_saras True. I owned a 1 series for over 2yrs and we get long winters here. Trust me I know how fun this short base cars can be...
My point is, I hate loose rear ends when Im trying to go fast on a racetrack...
You have to work twice as hard to even get close to the laptimes of a stable or progressive rear end.
Mercedes is the worst ones though! The rear end if their cars are very snappy. Which makes them sketchy even when sliding.
@@j_saraswhat tyres are you using? Low tread? Seemed a little too twitchy?
and this is why the g87 is the best M2 :)
@@wmdeez11 Everyone has their preferences and usage of those cars. For track usage, you must have deep pockets to build the car properly adding up all the consumables that goes crazy with such a heavy car. It doesn’t make the best m2 for me. But yes, G87 will be the fastest M2 I’m sure 👍
@@BlackBettyF56Would you say your m2 is better when it comes to consumables and build? If so by how much
@@BlackBettyF56 G87 with tires and brake pads and fluid is a competent track car 😉
@@willjames618 Mine is lighter, less powerful, smaller tires, and more. So less consumables by consequences. It only my opinion and can't deny your preference as I would love to try out a G87 that would be fully build like mine 🙂
Insupportable le tocard en e36 Touring à la fin 😂
Il cherchait le Lidl à Adenau 100% 😜