The key is in the wording (SD definitely could have made it clearer since it can easily confuse people), "X-cost" = base power while "cards that cost" = modded cost.
High evo Abomination goes down in cost based on affliction on the opponents side allowing him to come out for free sometimes used that to get it past your goose
I've been cooking people with Havok since his release and it's been hilarious watching so many people mislead others by labelling him as bad because they couldn't figure out the simple fact that he's designed to be in a deck with a low curve. He goes hard in negative decks too and also works surprisingly well in a move shell.
At 21:30 (game 4), High Evo Abomination gets reduced cost for each enemy card that was reduced in power (red number), so he most likely cost 1 by the end of round 5 (3 cards reduced by Spider woman in middle, 1 reduced power by Red Guardian on The hood, despite being buffed by Washington and finally Elysium.
@ryanpetersen2807 I'm not sure why I assumed goose blocked on base cost not actual. Either way I realized it way after the fact what happened, lol. Thanks for clarifying!
I love this deck! It feels super solid, but I can be out-powered sometimes in conquest. I've been playing around with Marvel Boy and Elsa in that Cassandra slot, and I'm not sure which I like better. One word of advice, I think it's best to avoid dry playing the Hood - you want to either transform or destroy him with Nico, or change his power with Bast or Agent Venom. It's worth holding him in hand until you can do one of those things, imo.
@shea42 It was hard for me not to include marvel boy since I enjoy him so much, and after playing it more think he would fit really well. I always toss around on whether to drop him turn 1 or not. Valid point that holding him is specifically better in this deck in the hopes he gets buffed.
I skipped out on havok because a lot of the bigger snap creators swore up and down that he wasn’t good when he was in the spotlight cache, now he’s one of the more prominent cards rn. I noticed this tends to be a thing in this community lol people downplay a card then boom 2-4 weeks later people realize the card has value outside of original expectations
I feel you with this. But if I’ve learned anything playing this game, it’s that I get what I want, not what is told of me to get. I liked havoc and opened for him and Gorr and I got lucky with two keys getting them. If you don’t play to get high ranks, just get cards you want to play with, not what the hyper competitive people “recommend” you to get.
@teminator365 I lucked into him. I was so disappointed when I pulled him on Gorr's week, but weird how things workout. Guess that's the way snap goes, and tomorrow some other unexpected card will pop up.
@@teminator365 What's really funny is that most of the bigger creators tend to be dead wrong when it comes to judging the potential of a card. The prime examples being them gassing the hell out of Jean and Phoenix Force before their release, they swore that they'd both be amazing and dominate the meta, and them and their mindless followers were ranting and raving at me when I said they were both gonna be trash. They also overhyped the hell out of Doom 2099 and Rocket&Groot, both of those cards are mid af and have been free wins every time I've played somebody using them. They've also completely whiffed on how good some cards would be since the majority of them are terrible at theorycrafting and just copy their decks from a website. The most recent example of this being Luna Snow, most of them said she was skippable or not good which is wild af since it was obvious that she'd be the best ramp card in the game. The main deck I use her in has a 75% winrate this season and the other two I have her in are only a few percent behind.
Game 3 comment: I advise (and do so myself) a T1 Kitty always going into right-lane unless left is super good fir her (Aunt May's, Shuri's Lab, or such). You basically never lose her right-on-T1 as nobody plays anythiing there that turn except Nebula (which is totally fine) and you won't get trapped by a bad mid location T2 (Knowhere, for example) or a one-off oddball play right lane (Elektra? I know small odds but still better to play Kitty right by that little bit).I'm still watching the rest but I too am a big fan of small soliders and miniature-curve style decks!!
I run a similar deck to this as a bounce deck. It's all built for a Havok turn 4 so the max energy I will ever need is 4. I like the deck but still don't have Red Guardian yet. I think we only have 4 cards that are different between the 2 decks.
Not leaving your house so... getting rocket and groot? I have been wanting havok just cause I like the character, and I want some variants... I was told he's garbage, but this makes me want him more.
@jorgerocha8071 Thena is a lot of power but you could try with angela. She wouldn't get as big, but would still fill that slot. Especially if you have us agent or something of the other cards i'm personally missing.
For Game 4 I was so confused because I assumed Goose applied to base costs not reduced. Elysium helped him sneak under his restriction, lol.
The key is in the wording (SD definitely could have made it clearer since it can easily confuse people), "X-cost" = base power while "cards that cost" = modded cost.
@@BryanRoachSimpler explanation - Capital C Cost is base, small c cost is current
@@BryanRoachI think they already defined both scenarios with “Cost” vs “cost”. I forgot which was which though.
High evo Abomination goes down in cost based on affliction on the opponents side allowing him to come out for free sometimes used that to get it past your goose
I found your channel a few months ago and have been a fan ever since. Love the budget deck videos. Keep up the good work man!
@gabegrey5503 Thanks so much! I really appreciate you watching!
I've been cooking people with Havok since his release and it's been hilarious watching so many people mislead others by labelling him as bad because they couldn't figure out the simple fact that he's designed to be in a deck with a low curve.
He goes hard in negative decks too and also works surprisingly well in a move shell.
Always been a fan of Havok. Been playing a variation of this since before Agent Venom came out but he just made it so much better. Great video!
@LaniacTheManiac Thanks! He is definitely growing on me.
At 21:30 (game 4), High Evo Abomination gets reduced cost for each enemy card that was reduced in power (red number), so he most likely cost 1 by the end of round 5 (3 cards reduced by Spider woman in middle, 1 reduced power by Red Guardian on The hood, despite being buffed by Washington and finally Elysium.
@ryanpetersen2807 I'm not sure why I assumed goose blocked on base cost not actual. Either way I realized it way after the fact what happened, lol. Thanks for clarifying!
I love this deck! It feels super solid, but I can be out-powered sometimes in conquest.
I've been playing around with Marvel Boy and Elsa in that Cassandra slot, and I'm not sure which I like better.
One word of advice, I think it's best to avoid dry playing the Hood - you want to either transform or destroy him with Nico, or change his power with Bast or Agent Venom. It's worth holding him in hand until you can do one of those things, imo.
@shea42 It was hard for me not to include marvel boy since I enjoy him so much, and after playing it more think he would fit really well.
I always toss around on whether to drop him turn 1 or not. Valid point that holding him is specifically better in this deck in the hopes he gets buffed.
These Small Soldier decks are a blast. There's also a Move version running around.
I skipped out on havok because a lot of the bigger snap creators swore up and down that he wasn’t good when he was in the spotlight cache, now he’s one of the more prominent cards rn. I noticed this tends to be a thing in this community lol people downplay a card then boom 2-4 weeks later people realize the card has value outside of original expectations
I feel you with this. But if I’ve learned anything playing this game, it’s that I get what I want, not what is told of me to get. I liked havoc and opened for him and Gorr and I got lucky with two keys getting them. If you don’t play to get high ranks, just get cards you want to play with, not what the hyper competitive people “recommend” you to get.
@teminator365 I lucked into him. I was so disappointed when I pulled him on Gorr's week, but weird how things workout. Guess that's the way snap goes, and tomorrow some other unexpected card will pop up.
@@teminator365 What's really funny is that most of the bigger creators tend to be dead wrong when it comes to judging the potential of a card.
The prime examples being them gassing the hell out of Jean and Phoenix Force before their release, they swore that they'd both be amazing and dominate the meta, and them and their mindless followers were ranting and raving at me when I said they were both gonna be trash. They also overhyped the hell out of Doom 2099 and Rocket&Groot, both of those cards are mid af and have been free wins every time I've played somebody using them.
They've also completely whiffed on how good some cards would be since the majority of them are terrible at theorycrafting and just copy their decks from a website. The most recent example of this being Luna Snow, most of them said she was skippable or not good which is wild af since it was obvious that she'd be the best ramp card in the game. The main deck I use her in has a 75% winrate this season and the other two I have her in are only a few percent behind.
Game 3 comment: I advise (and do so myself) a T1 Kitty always going into right-lane unless left is super good fir her (Aunt May's, Shuri's Lab, or such). You basically never lose her right-on-T1 as nobody plays anythiing there that turn except Nebula (which is totally fine) and you won't get trapped by a bad mid location T2 (Knowhere, for example) or a one-off oddball play right lane (Elektra? I know small odds but still better to play Kitty right by that little bit).I'm still watching the rest but I too am a big fan of small soliders and miniature-curve style decks!!
That's my strat as well until I see what lane 2 is.
@rob77dp That's a solid piece of advise, thanks! I'm always haphazardly throwing her wherever since she's bouncing back anyway, lol.
It was such a great season!! I picked up rocket amd groot. Galacta. Selene. And also cannonball. And will be getting iron patriot
@PitBoss1 Nice! Cannonball is pretty good for a random spotlight!
I run a similar deck to this as a bounce deck. It's all built for a Havok turn 4 so the max energy I will ever need is 4. I like the deck but still don't have Red Guardian yet. I think we only have 4 cards that are different between the 2 decks.
@zombiegoatt4282 A bounce package would fit this really well!
Love you ❤
Not leaving your house so... getting rocket and groot? I have been wanting havok just cause I like the character, and I want some variants... I was told he's garbage, but this makes me want him more.
Tbh, if you got 3k collectors tokens, just pin him in your token shop and you can get him for fairly cheap 🤷♂️
@@LoganDash I will if he ever shows up.. all my wanted collectables are being absolute jerks.
damn i wish i could play this i love agent venom
ANGELA would be good too add as well
I really wanted Havok
@Zahri8Alang Hopefully he's part of the series drop!
I always wanted to use havok maybe I’ll try this deck out is it an easy deck to use?
I just spent the weekend grinding 4 keys and lost them all on rocket and root... I hate myself...
@jasonbenitez4345 I hope you at least enjoy him?!
@ the fomo of him becoming essential to the Ajax deck I want to eventually complete set in
Could this deck be played without Thena or something similar?
@jorgerocha8071 Thena is a lot of power but you could try with angela. She wouldn't get as big, but would still fill that slot. Especially if you have us agent or something of the other cards i'm personally missing.