The Lightest Way To Pack Your Saddle Bag!
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- Inner tubes, multi-tools, tyre leavers... snacks! The list of must-have cycling accessories is endless. Worry not, Ollie is here to dispel all saddlebag myths and share some of his well-earned knowledge on how to pack the best Saddle bag.
00:00 Lets get going!
00:42 The Bag
01:46 Inner tubes
02:38 Tubeless plugs
03:36 Tyre leavers
04:02 Tyre boot
04:44 Multi tool
06:52 CO2 & pumps
09:14 Weight
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In addition to what you put in your saddle bag, I carry a couple of cable ties, spare derailleur hanger, plaster for wounds and a pack of tissue (God knows how many times my pack of tissue has helped others cleaning hands from chain grease, wiping bleeding wounds, wiping sweaty sunglasses etc.)
I dont live in the uk, im in socal usa. So i cut a slit in the button cell battery since i dont usually carry a knife on my bike. But i guess u can pop a hole with a 2mm allen and try to tear it with that and ur teeth but im not a fan of that. Even if i wanted to waterproof it, id rather use a vacume seal bag or tiny ziplock.
Also i think its terrible ur saying no chain tool, u guys influence many cyclists especially noobs. And all it takes is 1 bad day with a broken chain from bad shifting or malfunction or chain stuck in wheel. And id carry an extra1 or 2 master links
I always have a light bandana with me.. it also stops the rattling..
But a real road bike never has a bag😁
Does dynaplug tip (after u poke in) safe and won't contact with the wheel? Or will it damage the wheel if puncture with all the air was leak?
A chain breaker tool is still useful in case the rear derailleur itself breaks or detaches from the frame. You can cut the chain and go home in single-sprocket mode without the rear derailleur.
Also chains still brake even if you mintain them in good shape especially if you are on the heavier side rider or a rider with a high power in your legs
I reached out to TOPEAK re: the saddlebag with the tools shown at 1:45. The TOPEAK team told me that the product will be available in the US late March 2024, it will be called the Elementa Seatbag Pro with Essential Tools. Nick with TOPEAK went above and beyond to find out this information for me. I will be buying this as soon as its on the market.
Nice set up. I'd add a quick link and a $20 note for a meal or emergency taxi into mine.
100%
The chain tool isn't for the unlikely scenario of a snapped chain. It's there to help fellow cyclists convert their bike to single speed after they have mangled their rear deraileur in their back wheel on a LEJOG trip* and they weren't carrying a spare mech hanger (not mentioned here).
*Actually happened.
Was just going to post exactly this, plus in my case the chain tool (and 2 tyre levers) are built in to my Topeak Hexus X multi-tool anyway. Couple of quick links also required in the tool kit though!
@@cruachan1191 Yup, 10 & 11sp quicklinks (for others) tucked inside the quicklink pliers that double as tyre levers and a 12sp quicklink(for me) in the multitool.
I've also snapped a chain at the end of a 100km roadtrip day. Needed to take out a broken link and fix the chain. Always have one.
Last time a derailleur hanger snapped on me I realized that the roadside fix would cost me more than the taxi ride home, chains are expensive...
Been there. Needed that. Which is why I posted above, or below, about my tire levers doubling as a quick link tool.
Great tip to put the multi-tool inside disposable gloves! The only brand of multi-tool I've had develop rust on me is a Crank Brothers one. I think I'll add one of the countless desiccant packs I've got in the gloves with the tool.
You should always carry a few zipties in there. They weight nothing and they can help in so many cases.
And eletric tape. Used it more times than I’m proud of
Also a spare boa dial, cleat bolt, valve extender, and a tiny tube of sunscreen. All takes up no space and brings a ton of peace of mind
I wish there were more saddle bags that are larger with padded partitions for phone etc. I don't like stuff in my jersey, but don't need a full on bike touring bag.
As a bike mechanic of 10 years I've seen almost zero chains broken from wear, or rust. It happens, but not often. THe vast majority come apart at the pins from shifting under load - most often on a mountain bike.
As a heavier rider putting a lot of power fully agree with that. Broken chains on mtb only, and only sram 12 speed
All my years of cycling, 4 decades or more, I have never had the need for a chain tool. Why it is so popular I don't know.
@@charlesmansplaining you see, chain tools are meant for pressing chain pins. You can use them for regular maintenance, but they can also be handy in field, as walking out from a trail could take a lot longer than riding a bike. If you do happen to stuff up your chain in field, you'll either need a lift from a passerby, or a good pair of walking feet. Alternatively, you might be able to use a quick link to get back functional, or at least badge the chain well enough to carefully roll along.
@@zdm5290 There is always a happy fellow cyclist more than willing to pull their tool out and help. 😉
Personally I've only ever broken 3 chains whilst riding - all on the road. Once on a 21 speed mountain bike - the pin came out. Once on a late 80's steel vintage 12 speed - can't remember where that one broke but I was going from a standing start when it happened, and once on a 27 speed Sora groupset, thankfully at the end of a ride - the quick link failed - it hadn't been re-used. I'm light and none of these failures happened when shifting under load. I also have always maintained my chains well, not allowing them to get rusty, keeping them clean and well lubed.
No links or names of these products? Ameture.
Recently upgraded to a KOM cycling Bag with integrated rear Garmin Varia mount. The only one on the market that I could find. it holds : 2 x tubes, 2 x co2 & inflator, multi tool, maybe a mini power bank, 2 x tyre levers & tyre re-hook.
I carry a Tyre Glider instead of levers, it makes changing a tyre a breeze, just what you want on the roadside.
2x CO2 cartridges, tpu tube or two, mini tool thing and some patches. I also have a mini pump, packed in my gillet in my pocket. I should probably include a 'boot' of some type, some black insulating tape and a few zipties, thanks for the vid and comments for these additions.
throw in few alcohol wipes. theyll help clean innertube before patching, clean your disc rotor if needed, clean glasses and clean your wounds when you crash :)
My saddlebag is a slightly bigger waterproof one by Ortlieb and I also pack a few more things that I find useful:
- a 20 € bill because here in Germany some places still only take cash
- my health insurance card and ID
- Puncture patches
- a tiny first aid kit with band aids, leukosilk, tick removal tweezers and a bandage as well as some antiseptic spray
- a chain quick link
- zip ties
- a tyre pressure checker instead of the CO2 cartridge
- disk brake pad spacers
Also I ride with clinchers so I don't need the tubeless specific supplies :P
Cash is king - Use it or lose it.
@captainbozo01 your list is almost perfect. I miss just one more thing (or rather set). I always carry powerbank, uUSB cable with lighting ang Garmin watch adapters.
@@ondrejkubo Thanks! :) I do sometimes carry a power bank too but mostly on long rides or when I'm using a backpack.
I always have a tightly folded up note under my lever hoods.
It just stays there until I either need it or I lend a bike long-term to a friend, take it out and realise the note is now out of circulation.
This is a very German answer
I have also adapter between Presta and Schrader valves. Spare TPU tube and patches for TPU tubes
Ollie, What Topeak saddle bag model (with minitools included) is this? Thank you!
Thanks very useful. I can’t find the Topeak saddle bag & ratchet. Please share the link for this product.
it's the elementa bag. not been released yet. tried to attach link but youtube not allowing it. search topeak new products 2024
Am I the only one impressed by Ollie's plug joke?! I'm 100% loving it!! 🤣🤣🤣
The other "speed is key" situation is when 4-5 of your "mates" are stood there taking the p**s out of your puncture repair technique.
My tire levers double as a chain quick link tool. Always carry that, a quick link or two, and chain breaker because the worst has happened, and it was no fun.
I also carry a spare chain quick-link, pre-glued patches, tiny plastic valve core tool, zip ties, and a valve extender. For the valve extender I carry the type which works without removing the valve core which is the opposite of what I normally use. None of these extras add much weight but each and every one has saved my bacon or the bacon of a team mate.
A better place to carry spare electrical tape is around your seat tube. It doubles as a size indicator. The tape will experience less wear and tear than it would in your pocket or in your saddle bag.
Chain tool and a quick link, absolutely! On gravel bike I have the bigger bag, because I use it all the time and I keep the lock in there. Another tip, something to get the valve retaining nut off with if you run tubeless or you are not getting a tube in there!
Brake Pad Spacers. Keep the brake pads apart when you change a tyre.
I always have a presta to schrader valve adapter with me. Either in my bag or on my wheel just in case I have to borrow a schrader pump or use a gas station pump. I had a hand pump fail on me during a roadside repair once.
If you are not going to use two water bottles then an Elite Fly bottle or any with a large top, or Pro do a bottle with a large flat opening. For longer rides you could always take a bigger bottle for liquid.
That Topeak bag looks ideal. Any idea what model it is?
looks like a Topeak Elementa with an added tool section. Must be new and secret 🙂
@@SOLiD71 Thank you. I thought it was an Elementa also. Really like that secret tool section!
@@robjohnston1114 Ollie did say it comes with the tools so maybe a new model coming out. Not sure if the current Elementa can fit tools. I don't own it
A butyle tube is 70g, 60g for the really light ones. Put your tires in a plastic bag to prevent rubbing. Also bring a classical patch kit.
I had twice broken chains, one with the MTB (I could roll down), the other one on Lucomagno at 5°C and fog. Always have a chain breaker and a chain lock.
I also have a set of nitrile gloves. Keeps your hands clean and you don't have to worry about e.g. touching your chain with hands.
The pump goes on the bottle cage. Alternatively inside the seat post.
CrankBrothers also makes a nifty multitool that comes in its own casing.
If you run tubeless but as lazy as I am to check regularly if the sealant hasn't dried out - consider carrying also a small tube of fresh sealant. Also helps if the sealant is wasted through a big hole before you've plugged it
But are you then able to reseal the tire again with a mini pump after defleating it completely, removing the valve core and refilling it with the sealant? To me thats not working very reliably and I therefore just take spare tpu tubes. If tubeless cant be fixed with plugs, then its spare tube time imho.
@@ErikFORV3RT yes, it works almost every time - unless you use hookless rims. In which case: so sorry, consider normal ones, lol
Ah alright then it is the hookless wheelset, but I like the advantages of hookless and will probably sick to it@@dropbaran
@@ErikFORV3RT disclaimer - I have a strong opinion on hookless. But what are those advantages exactly? :)
@@dropbaran Less weight, cheaper, better (idk how to call in english) „less light-bulby form“ therefore better riding performance. Would use minimum 30mm tires though.
Equally important to carry are first-aid items such as bandages, plasters and antiseptic wipes. I found it highly useful.
I carry 2 oz of sealant for a top off - it is was a bad leak before I got sealed or had to boot the tire.
While you might be fighting weather when you try - the self-adhesive tire boot beats the DIY cut out from a tire. Even if it is only partly adheres - it holds the boot in place while you wrestle everything else into place.
QuickLink for the chain.
Chain Breaker - to help the other cyclist you come across with a broken chain (!)
Couple of zip ties.
Neat idea about the tape on the pump. Will be adding that.
Multi tool in a latex glove, never thought of that!
I wrap my tube in an old cut off shirt sleve. It protects the tube and is handy to wipe your hands on. I cover my CO2 with a piece of old inner tube. Saves the thread rubbing also.
My toolbag consists of a small Roadrunner bag with a Knipex mini pliers wrench (105 gram), Wolf Tooth pack pliers (38 gram), PB Swiss Tools biketool (91 gram), 3x Schwalbe tyre levers, Park Tools SW-40 spoke key and CT-5 mini chain tool (77 gram). Add to that some spare cables and brake pads, duct tape, spare spoke nipples, zipties and some patches and I am also somewhere in the 450-500 gram region. Granted, I carry a full size Silca Impero Ultimate frame pump underneath my downtube for another 260 gram but I prefer to carry just a bit more because this is my touring setup. There is very little that I cannot fix on the spot.
🙂👍🏻
This is all pretty much what I carry. I like the idea of the multitool in the gloves: I use my bike as a commuter and a "leisure" bike and keeping my hands a bit cleaner if I get a puncture on the way to the supermarket is a good idea. Anything else in particular you would recommend or do differently for a commuter set up where weight isn't as crucial?
Chain tool and a quick link would've saved me a long snowy walk a few years ago. Always carry them now.
And, to store my saddle bag tools I fit them all into an Altoids tin. If it doesn't fit then I don't need it, and no worries about puncturing a tube or the bag itself. There's enough room to spare (pun intended) to throw in some patches, a micro first aid kit, extra quick links and some cash just in case. The only problem is that it can rattle around while riding so I often stuff a tissue in there, which could also come in handy.
If you have a butyl tube take it out of the elastic band it comes in, roll it up tightly and wrap in cling wrap. You can compress it quite small, the cling wrap is nice to have for your old tube to wrap it up in and put in your pocket to dispose of and it won't get your pockets dirty. Same with the latex gloves, If I have to work on a "NON-WAXED" heathen of a bike, I use latex gloves to keep the grease off of my hands and in-side out as clean storage for old tubes. Since I'm the defacto team mechanic for our group rides, I also have a multi-tool with a chain breaker, dyna-plug, derailur hanger, and very small bottle of liquid lube.
Aha! Vindication at last. I stopped carrying a chain tool ages ago after realizing I hadn't used one for over a decade.
A quality little mini tool does everything I usually need, and saves space and a few grammes.
I'll have to agree to disagree on ratchets. I'd lose all the bits almost immediately.
In fact, the 8mm adaptor for my Topeak Mini 9 went walkies not long ago, and as far as I know, you can't buy spares.
(If Topeak is listening, please start offering some spare 8mm adaptors 🥵)
Cheers
Nothing special about those adapters you can purchase quality ones from wera or draper….even make up more useful ones using bosch or milwaukee drill bit holders 🙂👍🏻
@@pedallinraw Ace. I'll look into that. Hopefully the decent ones won't cost more than the Mini 9! 😀Cheers
I would probably carry a chain tool. Broke a chain on my street once, was climbing up the hill, and promptly snapped it in half. Nothing more disconcerting than breaking your chain and hearing it fall off your crankset onto the pavement.
I also carry a spare screw for the cleats. Me and a friend had a screw come off the cleat mid ride due to gravel or just bad roads.
They make multitools with a dynaplug in them as an accessory now. Cannondale makes one. And so does PNW. I carry the PNW one along with TPU tube now. It saves a TON of space and weight.
I have two set up. My solo pack is 295g with 2xco2 and tpu tubes. My set up for grupe rides is 200g with 1x co2 and tube.
Instead of a tire boot, I use a 3"x3" piece of Tyvek. Weighs less than the book and still won't rip. Plus you can wrap it around your multitool to keep it from rubbing.
Tyvek 🙂👍🏻
Zip ties , multiple uses
Tire levers… I stopped using the usual nylon/plastic ones (snapped three in a year on my Reynolds AR rims with Conti GPs… do these things age somehow, get more brittle?) and went with the ParkTool ones that are actually made from steel and are just covered by plastic.
Chain tool… and what do you do when your shifter cable or your mech hanger snaps and you have to shorten your chain? Bite the chain off? Good luck with that.
I bought a Dynaplug today on sale.
Over the weekend I tried to use a bacon strip style plug and it didn't work. The strip would not unstick from the stabby thing. I think it was the KOM brand.
What model is the bag with the built in tool kit? Can't seem to find it online.
What’s the brand of hand pump you’re using in the video? Thanks
I haven't thought of putting a battery in my saddle bag but done so now. However, in order to change the battery of our flash light or HRM, we need a miniature screwdriver (at least in my case). The battery can also go into the nitrile gloves for extra protection from water.
Thanks Dr.O. and crew....I bring money , $20 bill JIC and I wear a Road ID . I've fallen off , and had concussion ! Yep..OAF here ..
Dynaplug is great as long as the the hole in the tyre is minimal. For more massive cuts i prefer Maxalami.
What brand is that gold pump?
Topeak Race Rocket Mini
I put my spare tubes in my seat stay taped together with my mini pump too plus other stuff should my tires go flat. I'm hoping I won't have to use it 😅
I wrap all my cpu inner tubes etc in cling film. This prevents rubbing and even grit potentially causing an issue when you need them . Cling film also helps make them even more compact
That is a great tip. Thanks for sharing.
which saddle bag comes with the multitool please? thanks
I always also carry:
a spare bar end plug or two
Wrap my tube(s) in an old elasticated bandage
Puncture repair kit
2-3 cable ties
Spare contact lenses
Paracetamol
The butyl innertubes I always use are about the size of your TPU tube. Michelin Air Comp. (and they can be patched and reused more than once. I always carry two patched tubes as back-up.
As a tire boot, I carry a piece of cotton casing from an old 30 year old Tub, where I have pulled the tread off. 30 years ago, it was easy to remove the tread off of tubs. Not so much anymore.
I don't carry a multi-tool, just one 5mm allen wrench.
TPU inner tubes can be patched up too! :)
Spare quick links, a spare derailleur hanger, mini puncture repair kit (I’m not running tubeless), co2, multitool (with chain breaker), tyre boots, 2 inner tubes, safety pins, Velcro straps, schrader to presta adapter, alcohol wipes and a couple of different size plasters. And a lightweight rain jacket, just in case. And a mini pump in a pocket.
No surprise that I need the large saddle bag…
Love how Ollie uses the word nerdy and pushes up his imaginary glasses 😊😊
Based on the advice of my LBS mechanic I carry a spare rear mech hanger. Should I bash my rear mech (a few years never and then twice in the space of 3 months) and I can’t straighten it out then it’s a relatively easy replacement
Having some of the plastic bank notes is useful both as cash and a tyre boot.
Every bit of motion around me stopped when you said "TPU tube" because I had no idea what that was. 😶 Never fear because I have already found a GCN Tech video that should explain the different types of tubes. Thank you for continuing to help me learn! 👍
I have one of the Silca gear wipes in mine in case I have to fumble around with the tubeless gunk. Takes up almost no space.
I always put money I my bag, incase I need to buy something but also used to patch gashed tire with an inner tube.
Wouldyou recommend carrying one of these kits of you were doing a long road, say 321km around an island?
I put everything into little bags but a nitrile glove is a good idea. Latex breaks down to fast. 😊
@gcntech can you let us know which saddlebag can be bought with the byukt in tool set...thanks
How long does a TPU tube last in a bag? Can they take the rubbing around in there, moisture from road spray, etc? Same question for butyl and latex I guess too, just curious.
Plastic bags are the exotic new inventions that solve these problems. The bonus is that they weigh almost nothing.
Some tiewraps, electrical tape, and a quicklink come in handy as well.
I like pliers too. Some wire fragments are next to impossible to extract from a tyre.
I’d also put my tire tubes in a plastic bag. Didn’t have a flat tire for many months, then when I went to replace the tube the valve was corroded and fused and I couldn’t open it at all.
I never use clingfilm when a plastic bag ( reused) will do, as clingfilm is single use and lasts no time at all in a tightly packed saddle bag. I carry a quick link for chain on the bike the bag is on. Also some wet lube in a "fish " from a sushi takeaway. On my gravel bike, I have a spare cleat and bolt. I use a small saddle bag on my mtb too, because it is small enough to not mess with the dropper post and still big enough for a TPU tube. That way each saddle bag carries spares specific to the bike it goes on.
I wrap my CO2 with a couple turns of duct tape, rather than the dedicated sleeve that is sorta only good for one thing, the duct tape can be great for many things.
CR2032 battery for AXS trigger shifter and Quarq PM cos I am crap at checking on the ap how much is left..
Add a small pair of scissors for extracting the coin cells from their plastic encasements and for trimming excess tubeless plug (or innertube patches).
I’m looking for a tool bag or something. I have Topeak cage bag I put, topeak hand pump, Bytle tube, topeak tire lever & multi tool. I want to replace the topeak cage as the zip is ruin cant zip up. Any suggestion ??
In addition I usually carry a spare mech hanger and some quicklinks.
@gcntech Can you share the details of the saddle bag with tool kit included that Ollie refers to in the Vid please?
Surprised to not see a quick link. I once had an overshift get jammed between the frame and crank and had to undo the quick link to get it out. Link was almost impossible to get off. Now i switched my tire levers to ones that connect to form a quick link remover. And links store in the handle. Weighs the same but more useful!
I tend to bring one of those litte disc dummies with me. the ones that you can put between your brake pads and is usually shipped with them and/or a new bike. you don't wanna be left stranded because you or some troll pulled your hydraulic disk brakes while your wheel was off. weighs like 5g, doesn't take space.
My multitool is rusted 😬 Anyone know a fix? Thanks GCN, my fellows 😃
might be 'heavy' but a spare di2 battery seems like an easy win too
After riding around for a couple of years with a big, fully stocked, saddlebag and no mafunctions whatsoever, i went the opposite route and got myself a Jersey Pocket Tool Case from Waterfield Designs. The only things in it are my phone and keys, a Lezyne pocket drive pump, a Topeak multitool and some toilet paper. If the chain, di2 or derailleur gets busted i can turn it into a single speed. If there is a slow puncture i can stop and pump the tyre up every now and then. Anything worse and i'll just call a taxi and call it a day...
hi , i always bring some zip ties and also a quick release chain link
Watching this on Boxing Day after eating my own body weight yesterday. 😂
Don't need a saddle bag since I started using TPU tubes and I use a Silca frame mount tire pump. It's about saving the environment. C02 = bad. Rubber = bad. Everything I carry fits in my pockets which is what they were made to do.
I bring a chain tool always now because I broke 3 chains over the past year
Supposedly, CO2 doesn’t play nice with tubeless sealant, especially ammonia based types like Silca or Stan’s. I’ve read that it causes the sealant to clump or ball up. Does anyone have any direct experience with this?
5:44 Or do an Alex and buy a counterfeit chain! 😅 can't believe you failed to mention that one, Ollie.
@askgcntech Let's have a video with the lightest but usable tools available for bike touring. Alu/carbon handles? Titanium bits? Titanium adjustable wrench? Carbon cassette removal tool? etc.
no multitools as they often have half of the tools that are not needed on my bike and f.x. the 6 mm hex for the pedals must be a normal long wrench. I spent ½ hour in the airport, trying to remove my pedals with a multitool, which I smashed totally up, without success.
My mates always take the mickey out of my larger saddlebag but I get them back when the kit in their pockets drags their jerseys out of shape. Also, I never used to carry spares in races as I figured your day was jinxed if anything happened anyway, Sportives are different of course.
@GCNTech What hair product does Ollie use? Seriously, I need to know
I like to include a small first aid kit.
Stil can't find this saddle bag with the tools in it 😕
Waste of time. The tools are nasty and cheap and you will leave half of them out when you discover they don't fit anything on your bike. Weight weenies can also part disassemble a multitool and remove the items that don't fit their bike. Though those items might fit the other cyclist's bike when you are trying to help....!
I use nitrile (7mil) rather than latex gloves. I always mark the outside of them with an indelible pen so that when I reuse them (often) I put them on clean side in (no good wearing gloves dirty side in!). If you're putting your multi-tool in your glove, how about turning the glove inside out so when your tool is dirty, your hands don't need to be.
you could put your tyre levers between tube and multi-tool to stop them fighting.
I include patches just in case too. I don't carry a chain breaker because I've never broken a chain. I suppose I'm not strong enough.
A cheap soft multi-tool is worse than useless.
What would you put in a modern saddle bag if you're not running tubeless? Tpu isn't a good option for rim brake bikes from what I've read.
The low (19g) weight ones not. But the "heavier" 32g do work on rim brakes.
if youre relying on tpu tubes bring sealant that can go inside them
Not sure about a pound or euro note, but, in my experience, a greenback works as well as a tire boot - actually better than a chunk of old tire, if you're still running skinny tires. And, of course, it's a lot lighter. (Just don't spend it at your halfway espresso stop!)