Must See NEW Sleeping Pads for 2023!!! Rab Ionosphere & REI Helix
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Thanks for reviewing these pads! I had no idea they were rated that high in terms of warmth. One thing that would be good to know from a visual review standpoint is what the pads look like deflated and rolled/folded up so we could get an idea how these pads would need to be packed.
Pack size for the large/wide ionosphere 5.5 is claimed 30x15cm, I just measured it as 33x15, but would be able to squeeze that down
I got the Ionosphere 5 pad along with the new rab pillow. Here are some of the impression: 1.the tapered mummy shape starts to shrink too early which leaves no space for arm to rest. 2.anti slip print does help to secure the pillow ,at least it stop my rab pillow moving around when I roll. 3.The mat is quiet when you squeeze it until it touches the metal frame in the middle. But would be as loud as other pad when sweeping the mat. 4.The design of storage bag is hard to pack & too heavy. 5.Inflation valve is not standard size. 6.It does provides me a good sleep, but I can't compare with other popular pad as I do not own any of them.
I got the REI Helix for $63
They closed out the yellow color
I got really lucky
0.6 kg
R value 4.9
It is both comfortable as a side sleeper and warm in cold ground
I am very pleased
Next thing pad-manufacturers might look at is weight rating. Big guys can't use air-pads, because they all leak within two-weeks. Mostly leaking where thermal bonding-stays connect top-layer to bottom. And leaks are almost universally the multiple micro-pinhole type, as though the thermal-bond weakened the whole region where applied? This is universal across manufacturers, as though it was a fundamental limit of the heat-bonding process itself? If that were the case, then weight limits could be accurately predicted and published. More importantly, designs could account for the process-limit and seek to improve the weight limit through design means?
I picked up the REI Helix. Actually 2. They were on sale. Absolutely awesome. The warmth blew me away. The size and comfort is great. Highly recommended.
The helix is now half off, if you go to REI they’ll refund you the difference if it was in the past 14 days
I got the REI Helix for Christmas and have really been liking it. I got the regular width for $70, which was a steal! I even saw it go on sale briefly for $40. I slept on it down to -6C and was perfectly comfortable. I personally don't mind the narrower width, because in the winter I'm zipped up in a sleeping bag, which prevents my elbows from falling. I think my absolute perfect pad might be slightly thicker, but that's definitely a personal preference thing. I think REI has a winner with the Helix!
I've had the REI Helix since last summer. I was a bit skeptical because older REI pads tended to develop leaks. I have taken the Helix out multiple times and it hasn't let me down. No leaks and it was warm in 19 degree Fahrenheit weather. It is comfy and packs pretty small. I think its a winner so far.
love the video just thought id let u know title is a little misleading idk if im just missing something but, 2 sleeping pads you cant sleep on?? anyway keep it up ty for the great videos justin love ur stuff
rei Helix is on sale for $79 now
I got one in RW members only sale 50% off + $20 shipping to 🇨🇦
Thanks Justin 👍
I purchased the ionosphere 5.5 long/wide and happy with it so far. Good tip to not inflate it too much, leaves it softer and more comfortable and I didn't have a problem with warmth (last night -6 C, that's about as cold as it gets around here!). It measures 196 x 64 and it was super comfortable (once I had let some air out). The weight is a bit high at 1000g (suppose to be 950g, but that's what my scales showed) for the mat. It comes with a storage bag, repair kit and inflation bag. All in the weight comes to 1134 g. It would have been nice to have a deflation adjusting valve, but next time I won't over inflate, so probably fine. My only other experience with pads is a sea to summit insulated comfort plus. It is heavier than the S2S, but it is a way more comfortable, larger and warmer pad in comparison. All in all I am happy with it.
I’m so glad you reviewed the REI Helix! I went into a REI store and an employee heavily recommended it but based on online reviews I was skeptical. I ended up waiting because I wasn’t sure what I wanted still and a couple weeks later I got one online from REI on sale for $39!!! I’m a side sleeper and it is definitely comfy and warm
Where did you get it for that cheap? Was it their used equipment sale area?
@@thawk5987 it was just an REI outlet sale and it was brand new. It was literally marked down from $180 to $39
Hey really like ur reviews. I would love if u included the size of the pads when they r packed down to other pads to get a size comparison. I notice a lot of reviewers don’t include it packed down size
I can't wait to hear your review on the new Big Agnes Zoom UL insulated :)
The REI Helix pad looks almost identical to the MEC VectAir Insulated LT Sleeping Pad. I have the MEC pad, as well as the Nemo Tensor V2 and NeoAir XTherm, and find the MEC pad is my go to pad for car camping and kayaking adventures and shorter backpacking outings. I’d be curious about your thoughts on a comparison of the MEC and REI pads to see what you think. I also used to have the Exped Downmat 7 and once laid all four out for several family members to try. All picked the MEC pad as the most comfortable, including my parents who are in their 80s. The MEC is also offset. After I posted this I noticed someone else said the same.
The RAB is pretty much a copy of the EXPED. I've using an EXPED insulated pad for 5 years. I will be replacing it with an Ether Light. I've never slept well on the vertical baffles of the EXPED. Looking forward to my new pad.
For your fans in Canada, you should review the MEC Vectair insulated LT!
I've tried to want to but the LT version is super heavy and the UL version only comes in a 20in wide version :(
Great to know about the REI sleeping pad! I was wondering how it compared to other pads especially the Sea to Summit. Have you had a chance to try the Big Agnes Zoom UL yet? I wondered how it compared. It looks very similar to the Sea to Summit Ether Light XT.
How does the REI compare to the mec vectair insulated lt comfort sleeping pad
Would love a direct comparison between ether light XT and the Helix. Just on a quick google looks like the trade offs are warmth vs weight and pad height
The Helix is going to be lighter and warmer. Maybe as comfortable though...
I have both the Etherlite XT and the REI Helix. The Etherlite still edges out the Helix in comfort, although they're both very comfortable and I can get a good night's rest with either. The Helix is far warmer though. I tend to sleep cold and have used the Helix in winter conditions (paired with a foam mat underneath) and stayed warm. On the other hand I always feel cold on the Etherlite XT, even during warm summer trips.
Can you make a Video on the Big Agnes ZOOM ul ?
No one has a Video yet , the Pad looks like the S2S etherlight in Red but with higher R Value and less weight but doesnt come with the ultra nice pump/stuffsack combo of the s2s
have you been able to try the new big agnes zoom ul insulated? looks like it could be a good one.
No mention of weight?
I was taking the title too literally and thought you were saying they are terrible!
Yeah not a good title
Thought the exact same thing
Are they noisy? As a side sleeper, I had to ditch my Thermarest Neoair pad because the insulation crinkling woke me up every time I rolled to my other side.
Quite quiet!
I've been looking for a new pad for my JMT hike and was between the Tensor insulated an Ether light XT insulated. My concern with both is the reports of leaks from delamination (I think you had this as well). I'm wondering if the Helix might be a bit more robust since it's a fair bit heavier than the other two. You've probably not had the Helix long enough to really judge but do you have any thoughts on the durability? Thanks.
Slightly off topic but do you know of any budget friendly alternatives to the polar ranger sleeping bag? I know it's not going to be cheap but at over $1100 cad +tax the ranger is more than I can afford.
When I look online for winter bags I find a lot that aren't suitable for Canadian winters or are priced similar to the ranger
Clearly it get extremely cold in Canada so you need some very warm gear. Have you considered getting a three-season sleeping bag or quilt and a summer sleeping bag or quilt and using them together for winter? Justin Outdoors used a synthetic quilt outside of a down quilt for cold weather trips (but not on the extreme arctic trips which he uses a different system). Justine Outdoors says having the synthetic quilt on the outside of the down quilt helps keep water from condensing in the down and decreasing the warmth.
50%off Regular size Helix for REI members = $80 US (3/21/22)
Missed it! Too bad because I easily would have bought several
How would you rate the Helix vs the Ether Light XT? I’m happy with my S2S but still maybe a bit disappointed with its warmth.
i really wish someone would start pushing the competition on two-person sleeping pads. for years now, exped is the only company that has made anything in the realm of acceptable weights for such a pad, and their r-values aren't the best. would love to see TAR or nemo make a double version of their UL pads
2 person sleeping pads???
For what? Car camping?
@@_68niou1 when backpacking with your SO, I’d personally love one probably greatly improves comfort. Why else do lots of brands offer straps to attach two pads.
@@daviddemmers130 Well, I guess if you don't share the weight of shared items with your S/O this is a path you'd consider. Companies offer pad straps so you can join two pads for sleeping yet carry them separately. I suppose some tech could be improved around that idea but a double pad is just silly for most people unless you're got some other way to divvy up weight.
@@_68niou1 weight as in: the cook kit/ food/ filtration kit/ parts of or the whole tent/ one carries the 2p mat one carries the 2p sleepingbag.
There are enough ways to do it and there are definitely benefits.
More choice is always better.
The REI pad looks very similar to the MEC Vectair Insulated LT. I have that in a wide long and it's perfect for low temperature sleeping and has the same R Value as those pads that you've reviewed but for much less money ($200 CDN - recently on sale for $120)
The BIG difference is that the two chamber system eliminated the cold spots that the baffling creates. I'd compare the Vectair to a sewn through baffling sleeping bag while the Helix is more like a box baffled sleeping bag. I've only slept on the Vectair Insulated once, but found it colder than expected.
Prefer the Nemo Tensor, I’ve got one for winter and one for summer. Nice and wide and long.
What did you like more about the Tensor after using the Helix and Ionosphere?
@@JustinOutdoors I just bought two Tensors, I’m not buying any more mats for a long time!
Nice review. I’ve been waiting for the Rab because of its vertical baffles and warmth. There is zero chance I’d ever buy a horizontal baffled pad and I can’t believe there are people who can tolerate that terrible design.
The REI one is Heavy! 1 lb 10 oz for a regular wide?!?! The X-Therm is 1 lb 4 oz for the same with a 7.3 R rating. I definitely wouldn't recommend the Helix at all.
But members only sale 50% off $80 is a good deal, hard to pass up when ur in d market for a new sleeping pad?
@@danielsingh9415 If you just do an occasional camping trip then sure. If you're doing a long hike, or do any cold weather camping then no.
For year round camping 7.3 r value is massive overkill. 4.9 (helix) is much more reasonable especially in hot weather. And if you ask me the helix is much more comfortable, like by a large margin. Pair it with CCF in winter and you’ll be at R ~7.
But yes there is a 6 oz penalty between the xtherm and a 10 oz penalty between the xlite, which is nothing to sneeze at. That is the biggest downside by far.
Most quite???
Both pretty quiet.
I mean... You got a click from me cuz of the title.
Except now I'm never gonna watch another video cuz I'm tired of the click bait nonsense.
So... Congrats, I guess?
I'm sorry a fun play on words offended you. Haha
@@JustinOutdoors Must be an ultralight backpacker. They don't have time for "nonsense" 😂
I mean I'm this far into the video and I'm still getting content out of it LOL
Hey Justin. This Hozier just finished watching your thru-hike of The Great Divide Trail. really enjoyed it and just started planning my own trip. Didn't realize I had that kind of Adventure in my own backyard. Then again I'm one of those lowlanders from Ontario. Keep your stick on the trail Justin. Toots out.