More Chrono Goodness from LONGINES: ruclips.net/video/eTxrKA4BBa0/видео.html The First Zenith was release in SEPTEMBER 1969!!!! That is 9 months AFTER Seiko! Zenith was actually 3rd to market I hear! So the name Zenith EL Primero should have been called the *Zeith El Tercero* which BTW Sounds WAYYYY BETTER! -Falling
Hamilton and tag also dropped a auto chronograph around the same time. My understanding that all 3 of those manufacturers teamed up to make it. I believe it was called the Hamilton intramatic This is something I heard, I’m definitely not an expert.
I have Swiss chronos with in house column wheel vertical clutch and still thick unless you go very expensive higher brand all be around this thickness so with 2900$ no Swiss watch have this covered around this price and I stand behind my words, good job man.
I got this watch recently.. its very accurate running mine daily +4sec per day. it doesnt wear much chunky as it looks on wrist. its good my wrist size 7.25" flat. fitting very well. only one problem with this watch is, no micro adjustment as it doesnt have regular claps . and not so secure it may open by itself any drop watch or someone steal and runaway with motorbike. and very hard to find perfect fit as you need to remove and attach back many of those half link full links. :) thats only negative part for this watch
Wish they regulate all the the movement before selling it. lol... Seiko " What limited edition did we miss this year??" Seiko is milking it with all those limited and special editions and always forget the QC on mid to low end products. owh well... Great video again buddy! keep it up!
You must bear in mind that all manufacturers are at the mercy of the courier no matter how carefully they are set up. I experienced this myself after I sold an Omega Seamaster that was staying well within 3 seconds a day. The buyer emailed me a few days later to tell me it was gaining more than a minute a day. I wrapped that watch up like a baby but DHL still managed to bugger it. I took it back and he was right. It worked out OK for me because I regretted selling it anyway but I never was able to get it as accurate as it once was.
Chunky is funky, it relates to the original stop watch but got to admit the Hamilton panda is sexy with its slimline design. I'm loyal to Seiko and this watch is my next purchase. Informative vid, you've made my mind up for me, big thanks
Brilliant macro shots as usual FT and a good concise review. OK this is a tall watch but many mechanical chronographs are tall. For a modular design with a vertical clutch and column wheel this is actually quite an achievement by Seiko. The design of the side profile is a tad sub par though, Seiko know how to make great cases but this one looks a little like a bucket. Some slight bevelling and polishing and some sculpturing to the lugs could have made this look so much better. Positives? The date at the 6 position and the easily readable dial are great. Seiko should be congratulated on keeping the pusher and crown centre planes very close as usually modular designs have the pusher centres off set from the crown that is very easy to see. Take a TAG Monaco calibre 12 for example.
I just don’t understand Seiko. That watch looks amazing until you turn it on its side and it’s as tall as a house. Also a 6R base movement for $3200 is just inconceivable. I actually really like the quartz ones that came out, but this one is a big let down to me.
The Tudor Black Bay Chrono is actually only a tiny bit slimmer, bear in mind. And while that one is chronometer certified with longer PR, it's also 2000 more expensive.
My eyes got huge when I saw that beast from the side. That is thick! I honestly thought it was going to be 16 or 17mm. I liked the comparison to the original speed timer to see where the design got its influence. I can't wait to see you review the new 39mm solar chronos though. That panda is looking good.
Yeah I have a couple Hamilton Chronos with me now and they are 14.5-15mm THICK as well! The 39mm chrono panda should be coming soon... Unless it sells out so fast like what happened with the Ginza alpinist. But the other colors for sure I can check out.
Honestly I think people are overstating the thickness for the price range of the Chrono. The Hamilton Intra Matic is less than half a mm thinner, same with the Tudor Black Bay Chrono. And this one has a column wheel like the Tudor (the Hamilton does not). I think the price set for it makes sense given its specs and looks. It's not gonna match the Tudor BB Chrono, but that one is also $2000 more expensive.
@@EscapementWatch that would explain the height difference too then! Do you think it being integrated as opposed to modular gives a notable advantage aside from the thickness?
Love to see the SARK015. Similar pricing but 3 dials and similar 8r48 movement. Also limited, but Presage dress chrono on a strap vs Prospex tool on a bracelet. By the way when was the last time there was love for a seiko bracelet.
Luv the big chunky Case and Bracelet but the dial is just to plain for me. Why not use the NE88 over the 6R? I know what they were going for however hoping some better color variants are released in the future. Finally not going to pay over 3k for a non-GS. Great review!
I paid € 50 for a used SEIKO Chronograph in mint condition, that came with the paperwork, the manual, the box and the receipt; still under warranty. It runs incredibly accurate; loses one (1) second a month. Best value for money in my book.
🤔 the white dial looks kinda cheap imho. I’d rather prefer the non special edition with the black dial… or the Hamilton Intra Matic Auto Chrono… BUT the review is outstanding as always!
The tickness kills this one. What's the point of the display caseback if you can't see the column wheel? They could have gone with the solid case ack and the 6L movement. That would have shaved 2 mil off the thickness and made this a viable alternative to other chronos on the market.
@@EscapementWatch yes I did several times. With the manager. The black model was ok. They had one piece of the limited edition and that was the one that had the alignment issue. I took a photo
With all seiko accomplishments from first chrono to 300M dive watch to hi beat to spring drive to high horology pieces from grand seiko and sheeps still think its a mall brand, like you friend you said before if you know you know, keep up good work i unsubscribed to all watch channels and kept yours and tide and time.
Nice video, I'm a huge Seiko fan and I own many currently however this piece is tall with a tall bezel, Seiko need to remove the ugly X from this model.
I’m chrono lover but that thickness is too much for me. Design is amazing 👌🏻 I will wait for the 6L based one. Great review as usual Bro Ty so much PS I just bought the Alpinist Ginza LE (SBDC151) is arriving on Saturday 🥳
IMHo to expensive, average movement, looks nice is sturdy but at the price only true chrono lovers would hit the trigger. It is not ugly or bad watch not even close but the way that it is for that price it is not everyones cup of tea.
Lovely looks but dive chrono thick,and too expensive for a modular nail on, the Longines Big Eye is half the price and half as thick and doesn't have a Prospe X on the dial, still can't get over how slabular it is......
Jury is out on this one. Too bad about the movement. It’s not bad but it does need to b a little more competitive and integrated. It’s not like they don’t have the expertise but maybe just lack the desire. But what do I know, it’s not easy being a watchmaker these days.
Why on earth would you not just save up for a speedmaster? Seiko specifies this movement at plus 25 to minus 15 seconds. If it kept better time than that they would advertise it as such. The dial is nice, case finishing is nice, but come on. These Seiko movements make no sense at this price point and the case isn't exactly slimming the watch down.
More Chrono Goodness from LONGINES: ruclips.net/video/eTxrKA4BBa0/видео.html
The First Zenith was release in SEPTEMBER 1969!!!! That is 9 months AFTER Seiko! Zenith was actually 3rd to market I hear!
So the name Zenith EL Primero should have been called the *Zeith El Tercero* which BTW Sounds WAYYYY BETTER! -Falling
Hamilton and tag also dropped a auto chronograph around the same time. My understanding that all 3 of those manufacturers teamed up to make it. I believe it was called the Hamilton intramatic This is something I heard, I’m definitely not an expert.
my door frame or knob will love that thickness...
I have Swiss chronos with in house column wheel vertical clutch and still thick unless you go very expensive higher brand all be around this thickness so with 2900$ no Swiss watch have this covered around this price and I stand behind my words, good job man.
I got this watch recently.. its very accurate running mine daily +4sec per day. it doesnt wear much chunky as it looks on wrist. its good my wrist size 7.25" flat. fitting very well. only one problem with this watch is, no micro adjustment as it doesnt have regular claps . and not so secure it may open by itself any drop watch or someone steal and runaway with motorbike. and very hard to find perfect fit as you need to remove and attach back many of those half link full links. :) thats only negative part for this watch
Aesthetically it's unbelievably gorgeous but yes it's a chunky one - only thing holding me back. Great review.- thanks!
I totally agree!
Wish they regulate all the the movement before selling it. lol... Seiko " What limited edition did we miss this year??" Seiko is milking it with all those limited and special editions and always forget the QC on mid to low end products. owh well... Great video again buddy! keep it up!
You must bear in mind that all manufacturers are at the mercy of the courier no matter how carefully they are set up. I experienced this myself after I sold an Omega Seamaster that was staying well within 3 seconds a day. The buyer emailed me a few days later to tell me it was gaining more than a minute a day. I wrapped that watch up like a baby but DHL still managed to bugger it. I took it back and he was right. It worked out OK for me because I regretted selling it anyway but I never was able to get it as accurate as it once was.
@@pokie6087 thats a very sad story
Chunky is funky, it relates to the original stop watch but got to admit the Hamilton panda is sexy with its slimline design. I'm loyal to Seiko and this watch is my next purchase. Informative vid, you've made my mind up for me, big thanks
Thanks for watching, glad I could help. If you want a great deal email me and you can buy it from kaver jewelers.
Brilliant macro shots as usual FT and a good concise review. OK this is a tall watch but many mechanical chronographs are tall. For a modular design with a vertical clutch and column wheel this is actually quite an achievement by Seiko. The design of the side profile is a tad sub par though, Seiko know how to make great cases but this one looks a little like a bucket. Some slight bevelling and polishing and some sculpturing to the lugs could have made this look so much better. Positives? The date at the 6 position and the easily readable dial are great. Seiko should be congratulated on keeping the pusher and crown centre planes very close as usually modular designs have the pusher centres off set from the crown that is very easy to see. Take a TAG Monaco calibre 12 for example.
I just don’t understand Seiko. That watch looks amazing until you turn it on its side and it’s as tall as a house. Also a 6R base movement for $3200 is just inconceivable. I actually really like the quartz ones that came out, but this one is a big let down to me.
It did surprise me that is 28,800 bph and around 1 sec a day accuracy so not your average 6r.
The Tudor Black Bay Chrono is actually only a tiny bit slimmer, bear in mind. And while that one is chronometer certified with longer PR, it's also 2000 more expensive.
@@malkinmalone the Seiko specification is plus 25 to minus 15. That is trash.
It has a 8R46.
@@ActuallySettle I reality is more accurate. My Breitling guarantees cosc -4 +6 per day but it runs +8 seconds per week.
Been waiting for this one!
hope you enjoy!
Great dial color with the great contrast and love the balance of the components of the dial.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Impressive movement with those features and running at 0 seconds!
Crazy accurate
amazing watch. incredible watch. seiko is toyota of watches.
Awesome. I have the 031. Looks great.
Good choice!
That watch is such a beauty.
is this the same movement as in Prospex Speedtimer Mechanical SBEC009?
My eyes got huge when I saw that beast from the side. That is thick! I honestly thought it was going to be 16 or 17mm. I liked the comparison to the original speed timer to see where the design got its influence. I can't wait to see you review the new 39mm solar chronos though. That panda is looking good.
Yeah I have a couple Hamilton Chronos with me now and they are 14.5-15mm THICK as well! The 39mm chrono panda should be coming soon... Unless it sells out so fast like what happened with the Ginza alpinist. But the other colors for sure I can check out.
Should’ve went solid caseback to trim a little more off that thickness. Very nice looking watch though. I love the brushing on all of the case.
Totally agree
People don’t realize unless you spend Bvlgari money you will not get a thin chronograph watch, most are typical 14mm thickness and above
Honestly I think people are overstating the thickness for the price range of the Chrono. The Hamilton Intra Matic is less than half a mm thinner, same with the Tudor Black Bay Chrono. And this one has a column wheel like the Tudor (the Hamilton does not).
I think the price set for it makes sense given its specs and looks. It's not gonna match the Tudor BB Chrono, but that one is also $2000 more expensive.
I have 2 other hammy chronos with me now at my desk other then the intramatic. (jack ryan 14.8mm and the new khaki field chrono 14.3mm)
@@EscapementWatch that would explain the height difference too then! Do you think it being integrated as opposed to modular gives a notable advantage aside from the thickness?
Loving this watch but too bad it's beyond my budget ❤ Great review! 👏👏👏
Love to see the SARK015. Similar pricing but 3 dials and similar 8r48 movement. Also limited, but Presage dress chrono on a strap vs Prospex tool on a bracelet. By the way when was the last time there was love for a seiko bracelet.
I can't get that one bro. I think it came out 2019 before the channel existed.
I love this so much. The bracelet ist great!
Luv the big chunky Case and Bracelet but the dial is just to plain for me. Why not use the NE88 over the 6R? I know what they were going for however hoping some better color variants are released in the future. Finally not going to pay over 3k for a non-GS. Great review!
The NE88 is a 6R just a SI II label for seiko to sell to third parties. Like the NE15 is the 6R15.
@@EscapementWatch okay thanks for the clarification. The NE88/6R is a really great movement.
nice stopwatch design.
Excellent Video!
Thank you very much!
Well Omega have used modular chronograph movements so why not Seiko? It's big money but a lot of watch. I love the bracelet too.
Nothing wrong with modular like the ETA2894 which is thin!
I paid € 50 for a used SEIKO Chronograph in mint condition, that came with the paperwork, the manual, the box and the receipt; still under warranty. It runs incredibly accurate; loses one (1) second a month. Best value for money in my book.
Thanks for sharing
Nice watch, I have a 38mm Hamilton Chrono with 15 mm, I got use to it easily, not sure with 42,5 mm! Are you into fountain pens as well?
Yes I am! But just started getting into them.
@@EscapementWatch that is another dangerous path for the wallet jejeje. I hope you enjoy the new journey!
That's one amazing piece
Ah! I was about to launch some pro-Zenith “feedback on the episode, but you caught me! Ok. Now lemme watch this thing 😇
My tv used to be a Zenith it was awesome! had a phone in it.
@@EscapementWatch my flat screen TV has a chronograph ( but it’s a manual wind unfortunately)
LOL!
|Gorgeous watch and I don't mind the thickness.
I love it and I want it!
that's...thhhhhickkk
Oh yea
I've got an Ananta kumadori with the 6s78. Wish seiko would use more of it even if they sold the design to tag
Great review FT! I went for the SSC813 coz it's.alot budget friendly. Will be waiting for your review on that watch. Tnx
Hope you enjoy it!
This looks really cool.
🤔 the white dial looks kinda cheap imho. I’d rather prefer the non special edition with the black dial… or the Hamilton Intra Matic Auto Chrono…
BUT the review is outstanding as always!
Hamilton Intramatic Chrono really nailed it
no man it doesn't look cheap trust me. Even at a distance, which most watches can't do, including the intra.
Looks fantastic but kinda thick.
The tickness kills this one. What's the point of the display caseback if you can't see the column wheel? They could have gone with the solid case ack and the 6L movement. That would have shaved 2 mil off the thickness and made this a viable alternative to other chronos on the market.
The Swiss make announcements, the Japanese release. Nice watch.
To be fair to Zenith they did end up releasing their first auto chrono in September. 9 months after the announcement. So they did well.
saw one today. chronograph hand was not aligned with 60 min marker
Hmm we got 2 and both perfect. Did you try resetting the chronograph hand maybe someone let it run for one second?
@@EscapementWatch yes I did several times. With the manager. The black model was ok. They had one piece of the limited edition and that was the one that had the alignment issue. I took a photo
Did you say 6R or 8R? Cuz clearly at 5:25 it shows 8R46A 🙃
It's an 8r with a 6r base
Lovely but in all fairness I'd rather get 4 solar Speedtimer's in the 4 different colourways for less £! Top review
Regards from England 👍🏴
Good call!
Thank goodness for the solar releases.
Oh mate you get all the good stuff! What about the new 39 mm Astron!?
Not sure if Kavar will get them. Only way is if I buy it myself which I was considering last week. But low on $$$
It's a thicc boy. I like the solar variant better but nice vid as always
Great watch and review. :)
When is seiko going to upgrade their brwcelets
Great review. Stunning design and dial. But too thick, probably top heavy. It’s a shame Seiko’s chronograph watches are always too thick.
Totally agree. Almost 200g
I would buy this as a sub 1000 dollars quartz watch with 12mm thickness
With all seiko accomplishments from first chrono to 300M dive watch to hi beat to spring drive to high horology pieces from grand seiko and sheeps still think its a mall brand, like you friend you said before if you know you know, keep up good work i unsubscribed to all watch channels and kept yours and tide and time.
Seiko has exciting future as the CEO has great plans to bring them back to the roots. Don't know how long it will take but the wheels are turning.
Nice video, I'm a huge Seiko fan and I own many currently however this piece is tall with a tall bezel, Seiko need to remove the ugly X from this model.
I’m chrono lover but that thickness is too much for me. Design is amazing 👌🏻 I will wait for the 6L based one. Great review as usual Bro Ty so much PS I just bought the Alpinist Ginza LE (SBDC151) is arriving on Saturday 🥳
It's beautiful. You'll love it.
Congrats bro! I wont be seeing the Ginza it sold out too fast!!! I bet you will love it.
@@EscapementWatch I can't believe I got mine. Only ordered it last week from Seikoboutique. It must've been the last one in the UK.
@@EscapementWatch Ty Bro !
Excelente video 👏.
Good video 👍
Glad you enjoyed
I like it but not for 3 grand. I’d much rather have the longings big eye for a few hundred dollars less or the titanium version for the same price.
Thanks for sharing.👍
IMHo to expensive, average movement, looks nice is sturdy but at the price only true chrono lovers would hit the trigger. It is not ugly or bad watch not even close but the way that it is for that price it is not everyones cup of tea.
Too much price for this watch, the Hamilton Intra-Matic Auto could kill off this watch in so many ways. As usual, great content and video!
nah...the Hamilton is cam pusher *inferior* and horizontal clutch *inferior* and 14.8mm thick so its just as thick.
@@EscapementWatch IMO still doesn't justify the price as compared to the Intra-Matic auto. Don't get me wrong, huge Seiko fan here. (Y)
Just picked one up for $1500.
A new one for 1500?
Not a new one. But it was very lightly used.
Looks fantastic but for $3,200? I'll be selling a kidney for this lol!
lol
Remove the crazy X from the dial!
I didn’t want a chrono - but I’ve just changed my mind. That’s amazing
Not liking much about this watch. It's too thick, dial isn't very nice and the movement for that price tag....I'm disappointed.
Movement isn't that bad is it? in house vertical clutch column wheel chronograph doing 1s a day in 2 positions?
@@EscapementWatch I wouldn't say it's bad. The whole package just doesn't convince me.
Agree, too thick and the usual bracelet disappointment from Seiko. It could be a knock out.
It's half a centimetre, not half a millimetre 😉
Lovely looks but dive chrono thick,and too expensive for a modular nail on, the Longines Big Eye is half the price and half as thick and doesn't have a Prospe X on the dial, still can't get over how slabular it is......
I would rather pay a little more to buy a Tudor, or a little less for a Halmiton.
Yes many have the same opinion although Seiko has more heritage and chronograph significance.
I don't understand, the caliber says 8R46? Why does he say 6R?
6R is the base movement used to make the 8R.
I have 1
They made a good quality invicta
Jury is out on this one. Too bad about the movement. It’s not bad but it does need to b a little more competitive and integrated. It’s not like they don’t have the expertise but maybe just lack the desire. But what do I know, it’s not easy being a watchmaker these days.
Seiko, love your stuff but that is a hockey puck on your wrist
Dial looks perfect , brushing looks fantastic . Too thick , to expensive and don’t like the clasp . Pass .
Fair enough!
Why on earth would you not just save up for a speedmaster? Seiko specifies this movement at plus 25 to minus 15 seconds. If it kept better time than that they would advertise it as such. The dial is nice, case finishing is nice, but come on. These Seiko movements make no sense at this price point and the case isn't exactly slimming the watch down.
Thats a fair point. Speedy is hard to beat.
To expensive and I get most limited seikos
Seiko can't compete for price anymore and that case is ugly. Nice looking dial though.
3,200 dlls 🤣🤣🤣
Too expensive.
Stop snapping your fingers at me!! 😡😡😡😡
Overpriced without crown sign and so many eternal limited editions ,