Another great video Steve . It's like watching a mad genius at work . I always think the overheating is something to do with that intercooler . That's what gives the most cooling effect ; just chucking my 2p in the ring .
Interesting idea for adding an additional cooler, I'm glad to see your thinking about the airflow out the cooler. From my experience in motorsport having ducting to take hot air from the cooler/radiator is extremely important in increasing efficiency
Great update, I don't comment much, heat management and good airflow have been something I've been interested in for a long time, your probably already aware but Julian Edgar has some great videos along with a book about this subject, I purchased his book a while back, and with a few basic gauges purchased on Ebay , Magnahelic gauges, pitot tubes etc can give you some good info on what is working with the mods. Keep the updates coming 👍
Haha yes I do watch him. Iv learnt a lot from him and have been tempted to buy a gauge but as of yet not done it.his videos on airflow to coolers are pretty good
I would run some tape over any sharp bits or edges on the crash bar you trimmed. I've found my air filter to be missing small bits on the edge where it's rested on a not rough but not soft surface when driving over a period of time, to the point I question its filtering efficiency.
Great can always run mini fans on them to push or pull . I do wonder if the cooler shouldn’t be rubber mounted otherwise eventually the stud and bolt might fatigue especially on bumpy tracks .
I like stuff like this, how about a suction fan on the back of the turbo cooler along with your air feed. I've seen a few cars with coolers that have the venting in the arches and over time they do build up with road grime and stones, and that's even with angled ribs to stop anything going through the coolers
Nice man! You won’t be disappointed, I don’t have any air flow going through mine and it’s enough to keep temps at bay :), after 15 mins race in the summer we’ve just had my water temps wouldn’t get any higher than 93, oil temps 105, on a winters track day, I have to block half of my radiator off as it just doesn’t get hot enough to be able to drive, eg water temps struggle to get above 70, oil 85-90.. really hope this cures your issue, I know it definitely did for mine 🤙 Also! Thanks for the mention ;) Appreciate that
Hello friend, I see that you are an expert in Ford and I would like to ask you a question. What are the normal temperatures of the refrigerant and oil? In Spain it is always at 95 degrees and the oil at 120 and I don't know if it's normal. Thank you
Hi Steve just a quick question,I have a slight knock between hear changes and if I dab the accelerator in first I get a knocking sound ..could this be the engine mount,cars a 2017 with 23k miles Cheers
From experience as soon as I got rid of the airtec intercooler and standard crash bar. All the cooling issues went away. Currently running Pro alloy radiator and oil cooler Spec-r custom spec intercooler ( half height ) Turbo cooler
If people want to do this get in touch with me and I can make it significantly cheaper than Steve has with a mounting plate for the cooler , AN fittings and braided lines with no need for jubilee clips on the lines at the cooler Not taking anything away from Steve, he's pushing the boundaries of what you can do with the Fiesta and making things people haven't thought of
Im planning on going up to stage 3 at some point, and I've always wondered about full height intercoolers blocking airflow to the engine bay. Would you recommend the laird mid height cooler, so as to allow more air into the bay.
Depends what your planning on using the car for really. If its road use then the bigger coolers are not an issue and better intake temps I'd favour over cooling concerns as on the road you won't do more than a few hard pulls without having to slow down and the cars copes easily. It's track use where the coolant is an issue but as for lairds cooler iv never tried it so can't comment really
Hi this is what you need to Google or search at merlin motorsport. 90 Degree Swivel Adaptor with M22 x 1.5 Male Thread Also the oil cooler needs to be a m22 x 1.5 thread.
Hey Steve, when you did your last oil change, do you use a engine flush or just change filter and put in new oil? I have the Vauxhall Corsa VXR E, I was told to use 5/30 oil, does that sound right to you? thanks Steve
Hi mate. I'm hopefully picking up an ST3 next Friday. What oil do you put in your St? I've read online 5w20 and 5w30, with most people saying Ford changed it from the recommended 5w20 to 5w30 during the life of producion.
Yeh it's impossible to do that due to the crash bar. The intercooler is stepped so the lower half below the crash bar is thicker and closer to the air con rad. Its not an ideal situation
Steve on the way to compete with Bugatti with their 10 radiators on the veyron 😂 Just kidding, this is a very interesting concept! Waiting for results 🙂
I'm going to be going stage 3 next year and have always had my sights set on the Airtec Stage 3 cooler. Would this be a mistake and should I go for a mid height cooler such as the Outlaw 5111 which Laird Performance supply ?
Go for stage 3 airtec, I have used to pro alloy one (non curved) temps were very bad, it is only rated to 300hp tbf, the curved one however is defo one of the best options.
@@Sparkplugsteve there's more than that. The bypass valve is different too. Downstream coolant pipe from the turbo is repositioned, so it has priority.
I know it’s your daily as well as a track car but wouldn’t you be better off putting several hole saw holes under both headlights? I think the car needs to be one or other now daily or track just my opinion
It never has been a daily this one. Im a bit nerdy with airflow research and cutting holes is never a good idea. If you look at race cars they often have smaller frontal air zones than the road car version. There's enough mouth for airflow on the bumper as it stands you just have to use that air efficiently. Holes create drag and you want the least amount of holes possible.😁
Not really as the airflow to the air filter is more than enough. Iv done a video on that before. The turbo cooler will get air from the front opening in the grill so everything will get what it needs without adding any extra holes. Plus I dont like bumpers with drilled holes to be honest. Each to their own but its not for me
Yeah but you added weight to the car which will cause the turbo to work harder leading to increased heat therefore negating the cooler /s LOL Looks great though. Keep up the awesome content!
Their quality, I got a crossover pipe, the primary vac line was 90 degrees instead of 45 degrees, the secondary vac line was full of weld and just about fitted on the car. I had to do a bit of work on it so I could use it. Not worth the price I paid for it.
@@robwebster7406 oh really?!? Tbh I just had an x48r fail completely , supposed to be under warranty, I hope it is haha. Other than that though I’ve always had good experience with them 😊
Well it was the only part I have had of them, if it was half the price I’d paid for it I’d be ok, if you get puma speed stuff, inspect it before fitting 😏
It looks like it's time for you to buy other car and sell that one! That car is worst than a pc!! problems and more problems..when you solve one, you get a new one to solve..annoying
Great idea to fit a turbo cooler. Looking forward to the results to see if it works
Another great video Steve . It's like watching a mad genius at work . I always think the overheating is something to do with that intercooler . That's what gives the most cooling effect ; just chucking my 2p in the ring .
Finally another sps vid! 🤙😎🤙Great idea that steve would be interested to see how it works out.
Interesting idea for adding an additional cooler, I'm glad to see your thinking about the airflow out the cooler. From my experience in motorsport having ducting to take hot air from the cooler/radiator is extremely important in increasing efficiency
Great update, I don't comment much, heat management and good airflow have been something I've been interested in for a long time, your probably already aware but Julian Edgar has some great videos along with a book about this subject, I purchased his book a while back, and with a few basic gauges purchased on Ebay , Magnahelic gauges, pitot tubes etc can give you some good info on what is working with the mods.
Keep the updates coming 👍
Haha yes I do watch him. Iv learnt a lot from him and have been tempted to buy a gauge but as of yet not done it.his videos on airflow to coolers are pretty good
I would run some tape over any sharp bits or edges on the crash bar you trimmed. I've found my air filter to be missing small bits on the edge where it's rested on a not rough but not soft surface when driving over a period of time, to the point I question its filtering efficiency.
Great can always run mini fans on them to push or pull .
I do wonder if the cooler shouldn’t be rubber mounted otherwise eventually the stud and bolt might fatigue especially on bumpy tracks .
I like stuff like this, how about a suction fan on the back of the turbo cooler along with your air feed.
I've seen a few cars with coolers that have the venting in the arches and over time they do build up with road grime and stones, and that's even with angled ribs to stop anything going through the coolers
Cut a hole in the wing and put a mesh in there extra air feed to the turbo cooler ?
Nice man! You won’t be disappointed, I don’t have any air flow going through mine and it’s enough to keep temps at bay :), after 15 mins race in the summer we’ve just had my water temps wouldn’t get any higher than 93, oil temps 105, on a winters track day, I have to block half of my radiator off as it just doesn’t get hot enough to be able to drive, eg water temps struggle to get above 70, oil 85-90.. really hope this cures your issue, I know it definitely did for mine 🤙 Also! Thanks for the mention ;) Appreciate that
@OIF/OEF-0341 yeah that’s Celsius :)
Heat problems like this are what caused me to see get rid of my st180, moved on to a 1993 eunos roadster and much happier without all the issues lol
Hello friend, I see that you are an expert in Ford and I would like to ask you a question. What are the normal temperatures of the refrigerant and oil?
In Spain it is always at 95 degrees and the oil at 120 and I don't know if it's normal. Thank you
Have you got a link to that air ducting pipe? Needing something similar for my st225 and can’t find anything
Does it always rain by you😂 very informative video👌
Is the Big Airtek intercooler perhaps blocking the radiator too much, thereby causing overheating issues.
Hi Steve just a quick question,I have a slight knock between hear changes and if I dab the accelerator in first I get a knocking sound ..could this be the engine mount,cars a 2017 with 23k miles
Cheers
i see you still ran a plastic coolant tank, despite all your track days. did you ever consider one of the alloy header tanks on the market?
From experience as soon as I got rid of the airtec intercooler and standard crash bar. All the cooling issues went away.
Currently running
Pro alloy radiator and oil cooler
Spec-r custom spec intercooler ( half height )
Turbo cooler
Yeh I'm realising the intercooler is a big problem now. I remember talking to you a long time ago about your setup
@@Sparkplugsteve turbo cooler should make a noticeable difference. Be interested to see the results from the mocal set up
If people want to do this get in touch with me and I can make it significantly cheaper than Steve has with a mounting plate for the cooler , AN fittings and braided lines with no need for jubilee clips on the lines at the cooler
Not taking anything away from Steve, he's pushing the boundaries of what you can do with the Fiesta and making things people haven't thought of
Im planning on going up to stage 3 at some point, and I've always wondered about full height intercoolers blocking airflow to the engine bay.
Would you recommend the laird mid height cooler, so as to allow more air into the bay.
Depends what your planning on using the car for really. If its road use then the bigger coolers are not an issue and better intake temps I'd favour over cooling concerns as on the road you won't do more than a few hard pulls without having to slow down and the cars copes easily. It's track use where the coolant is an issue but as for lairds cooler iv never tried it so can't comment really
Hi, good video, could you link the fittings off of the cooler, i cant find them
thanks
Hi this is what you need to Google or search at merlin motorsport.
90 Degree Swivel Adaptor with M22 x 1.5 Male Thread
Also the oil cooler needs to be a m22 x 1.5 thread.
Out of interest, have you contemplated a higher spec rad such as a Pro Alloy or Koyorad triple pass?
I have a uprated rad from airtec
Hey Steve, when you did your last oil change, do you use a engine flush or just change filter and put in new oil? I have the Vauxhall Corsa VXR E, I was told to use 5/30 oil, does that sound right to you? thanks Steve
I don't flush it no and sorry I have no idea about the corsa oil specs.
@@Sparkplugsteve yeah no worries
Hi mate. I'm hopefully picking up an ST3 next Friday. What oil do you put in your St? I've read online 5w20 and 5w30, with most people saying Ford changed it from the recommended 5w20 to 5w30 during the life of producion.
Owners manual States both can be used so its your choice
@@Sparkplugsteve Thanks. Been watching your videos for a while so I'm really excited for picking it up.
Do I see an enormous gap between intercooler and radiator? I believe for efficient cooling they should be sandwiched as close together as possible.
Yeh it's impossible to do that due to the crash bar. The intercooler is stepped so the lower half below the crash bar is thicker and closer to the air con rad. Its not an ideal situation
Steve on the way to compete with Bugatti with their 10 radiators on the veyron 😂
Just kidding, this is a very interesting concept! Waiting for results 🙂
🤣
what do you think of the pro alloy radiator with oil cooler??
A mate has it and works well.
I'm going to be going stage 3 next year and have always had my sights set on the Airtec Stage 3 cooler. Would this be a mistake and should I go for a mid height cooler such as the Outlaw 5111 which Laird Performance supply ?
Pro alloy curved
@@Zaynite nice price 👀, but I have heard good things
Go for stage 3 airtec, I have used to pro alloy one (non curved) temps were very bad, it is only rated to 300hp tbf, the curved one however is defo one of the best options.
Why don't you try waterless coolant and test on the track? I konw it works in some engines.
Glycol
@sparkplugsteve did you get and data logging after this to see any improvements?
Yeh did a trackday last month and temps stayed under 90c. Ambient was cold at 12c but its definitely a big improvement
What would you say is a high temp for a st? I start working when it gets to 105⁰c I don't do track days
Have you fitted any of the recall hardware to the cooling system? May help. There are some changes physically.
Iv done the thermostat but it makes zero difference on track
@@Sparkplugsteve ill send some photos. There's a little bit more going on. Mines looks to have rerouted pipe work after the turbo.
@@deanmarsh1452 yeh it still doesn't make the car run cooler. The bottle has a level sensor and the front pipe is changed to steel.
@@Sparkplugsteve there's more than that. The bypass valve is different too. Downstream coolant pipe from the turbo is repositioned, so it has priority.
@@deanmarsh1452 yeh even so it still won't run colder on track. My brother has a recall car and it gets hotter than mine.
I know it’s your daily as well as a track car but wouldn’t you be better off putting several hole saw holes under both headlights? I think the car needs to be one or other now daily or track just my opinion
It never has been a daily this one. Im a bit nerdy with airflow research and cutting holes is never a good idea. If you look at race cars they often have smaller frontal air zones than the road car version. There's enough mouth for airflow on the bumper as it stands you just have to use that air efficiently. Holes create drag and you want the least amount of holes possible.😁
@@Sparkplugsteve surely an increase in direct air flow you would get to the air filter and turbo cooler must benefit the car over a tad of drag.
Not really as the airflow to the air filter is more than enough. Iv done a video on that before. The turbo cooler will get air from the front opening in the grill so everything will get what it needs without adding any extra holes. Plus I dont like bumpers with drilled holes to be honest. Each to their own but its not for me
So "cool" heh
I am looking forward to seeing how it functions :)
Yeah but you added weight to the car which will cause the turbo to work harder leading to increased heat therefore negating the cooler /s LOL
Looks great though. Keep up the awesome content!
ProAlloy or Spec R for cooling. Never Airtec
Never buying spec r again. The intercooler mounting points were completely wrong on mine and had to weld them in the right spot.
or CSF 🙂
Maybe try and get rid off the Puma speed crap may help 🤔 try a cheaper more quality part 👍
What’s wrong with pumaspeed
Their quality, I got a crossover pipe, the primary vac line was 90 degrees instead of 45 degrees, the secondary vac line was full of weld and just about fitted on the car. I had to do a bit of work on it so I could use it. Not worth the price I paid for it.
@@robwebster7406 oh really?!?
Tbh I just had an x48r fail completely , supposed to be under warranty, I hope it is haha.
Other than that though I’ve always had good experience with them 😊
Well it was the only part I have had of them, if it was half the price I’d paid for it I’d be ok, if you get puma speed stuff, inspect it before fitting 😏
Salut 😢🇫🇷
It looks like it's time for you to buy other car and sell that one! That car is worst than a pc!! problems and more problems..when you solve one, you get a new one to solve..annoying
Yeh your right but that's the world of modified cars unfortunately