I saw this about 7 years ago on TCM. On Sunday nights they would show a special foreign film with a host giving background. To this day when I bend down to wash the tub, I think of the movie . I also saw Come and See and may other movies. Then my sons convinced me I need to cut the cable, cuz it’s blah blah blah, so I did and now it’s been a few years and I still miss TMC. Love the review.
I would like to hear a review of Come & See... but it may beyond your scope.. it is a brutal film. Yet it is the closest I have seen a true depiction of the total depravity revealed in combat.
I really appreciate how you don’t stick to reviewing popular movie and/or US releases. I love world cinema and just finished watching this movie. It took me three days to watch, but I definitely felt her mundane existence.
I haven’t seen this movie (yet) but agree with prior posted comment. This plot /scenes made me immediately think of the music video diptych by the Eurythmics “Beethoven” /“I Need a Man.” Maybe Annie and Dave drew inspiration from this movie.
I was lucky enough to catch a screening of this at my local rep theater last year after it topped the Sight and Sound poll. Definitely one I was putting off to watch in a theater where I’m forced not to be distracted! I was surprised at how absorbed I was for the entire 200 minutes.
What is ironic to me is of all the movies you both review, is how iconic you fellas are! Y'all are so alike and yet so different! You guys are my favorite movie ever "!👍😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍
I have so much thought and feeling about this movie. It resonates to the bone. First, she had a husband and she did all these mundane chores for. Also she had sex with him. The only person left is a teenage boy. Her son. I'm not sure of his exact age. But even if he is older, say 17, 6 years ago would make him 11. He would be on the brink of beginning his male walk into sexuality. With such a devastating lose. So I can see the split of herself, 6 years after his death, confident in the split, so automatic, void of emotion. Machine like. Caring goes to feeding, clothing, setting up things for her son. Sex goes to the tricks. She has continued her "wifely duties" in two opposite directions. With all energy focused on items instead of real intimacy and engagement of relationships. I'm watching this again. The details are micro, a cadence in the clicks of the light switches and clacks of her heels. Her snatching up the towel after sex. Opening the window to get the sex smell out of her room. It seems like the fatal sex scene is done with the purpose to make one think that the faceless man on top of her is to be her husband or death itself, signifying her true feelings after finally feeling something, anything after her husband's death. Rage and anger are feelings that are "not allowed" in society by women. She controls what she can. Her reorganizing everything after she allows man to "handle" her. A lot of women, unknowingly, through divorce, nowadays, have the same experiences this woman has had. To focus on the male son. Daughters don't usually allow mothers to do this to them. Mothers will be met with rebellion. She does so much for her son. Keeping him inadvertently younger for her to have purpose. And she cannot even answer his questions or have any conversation. With the baby. She first ignores, fleeting glaces to make sure it's alive. Next, baby is upset with more contact with her. I believe she does it three times because "three times is charm". 3 times she picks up the baby, the most innocent and mirrored self. The baby shows her what she is inside. And she finally sees it to be true, leaving the baby to console itself to a better state than she is able to provide. This is a thick movie. This movie is true art that can be interrupted in many fascinating layers. I love the depth you both give your reviews, I'm so happy to have stumbled upon your channel!! Your channel is intelligent and interesting, it gives space for art and interpretation. Thank you.
Wow, I think I really need to see this one. I feel like I can relate to a lot of what you described. Minus thinking about murdering a trick! One of the so many things I love about this channel is how many interesting movies you've introduced me too!
I lasted about 40 minutes with this one, and j’adore des film Francais. I too saw it made best film of all time. I appreciate your review as I do not intend to ever sit through the rest 😀
I didn't know this film existed; after watching your review, I went online to see where I could watch it. Fortunately, it's streaming on Max. It was a perfect time for me to watch it, as I'm on vacation this week, so I did it in the afternoon. I understand the reason why the film is more than three hours long. The viewer needs to see the unraveling of Jeanne's routine, and it's fascinating to watch. The lack of a soundtrack and limited dialogue allows us to focus on the subtleties. I even noticed the scenes when only one chair was at the kitchen table. Thank you for reviewing this film and bringing attention to it.
I heard about this film before and wanted to watch it but didn't remember any details about it or even where I heard it from. So thanks for uploading this video. I will watch and come back to see your review.
Oh, these Kids don't know.....Eurythmics' Video for "Beethoven (I Love To Listen)" borrows BIG TIME from 'Jeanne Dieman'; Annie Lennox plays a repressed Housewife whose inner psyches mesh, and explode into a "psycho-Vamp" who 'breaks free' of her shackled existence, and become the centerpiece of their 1987 Album, "Savage"..these Boys will LOSE IT when they see it!
When ever I see the title Greatest Film Ever Made….I’m curious 🤔…one night woke up and turned on TCM and what was playing was The Passion of Joan of Arc, the silent version of the saint. Digging a bit deeper into this masterpiece, a movie could be done about the Dutch director, Carl Theodor Dreyer, who received a lot contempt, criticism…the film was actually cut from it’s original version by, Archbishop of Paris and government censors. Even with the cuts it was a critical success and was honored with the title being one of the greatest films ever made….after that late night viewing I thought, they are not wrong. The actress, Falconetti, this was one of 2 films she made. Her mental illness may have prevented her from any real level of success….. This long a&& comment to say…thanks for the review, now I’m interested, can this film knock The Passion of Joan of Arc off the podium. All the best 😊
I think the bravery of making movie about such mundane stuff and the influence it has had on so many film makers and it's new found fame - it's become more popular in the last 10 years than it was before - is what propelled it to the no.1 spot - also the fact that the director killed herself party due to the fact that very few were interested in other types of movies from her and wanted another Jeanne Dielman.
I love that Nick is listening to Boy Harsher :3 theyr so popular amongst my (slightly younger) gay generation. I'd recommend the band Puerta Negra to if u like the 80s pop-punk synth vibe. Does the Boy Harsher interest mean yall have watched 'The Runner' or 'My Animal'?? i've never commented but I watch all ur videos
it’s not often that a film sticks with me emotionally like Jean did. after i watched it for the first time, it made me genuinely depressed for a week lol.
@@shawnsatrinarodriguez4429It drives me crazy when streaming sites don’t bother to show the release year (or worse, a totally inaccurate year). It’s essential information.
Darlings though, three hours? No way, I have adhd and use fidget toys big time. I doubt I could ever watch in a movie theatre that's for sure. I know it's my loss, but physically it's a major nightmare for me to sit through, even if I was watching this at home. How do you guys do it, seriously?❤
Nick was speaking a foreign language! Then, realized it was a movie title - then couldn't figure out if it was French or German, yep, so it's Belgian 🤨*But* no matter, the character here 'disturbing!' Assuming 'working on auto-pilot', until she felt 'alive' or present! Long movie - good that it was worth it!
Film ratings are very subjective. There are films that are written very well and there are films that really elicit an emotional reaction from me. And then there are films that defy categorization where you are well written, emotionally satisfying, yet frustrating on some level.
Have you seen a movie called "Womb" or "Clone"? It has two names... I think it was a good film, but uncomfortable. It got very bad reviews. I wonder what you guyes think of that film. This film you are talking about here sounds uncomfortable too...
Comparing Jeanne Dielman to Vertigo or Citizen Kane is a joke. It's interesting to watch a movie that's so slow and filmed from so few angles but other than some of that it's a waste of time.
I agree that this is not "the best movie of all time," but nothing dictates what filmmaking style is or isn't "a waste of time." Sometimes it's just the slow and non-stylized type of film that's more effective
Thank you for opening my eyes to so many movies.
I was completely unaware this film existed until this review.
I saw this about 7 years ago on TCM. On Sunday nights they would show a special foreign film with a host giving background. To this day when I bend down to wash the tub, I think of the movie . I also saw Come and See and may other movies. Then my sons convinced me I need to cut the cable, cuz it’s blah blah blah, so I did and now it’s been a few years and I still miss TMC. Love the review.
I would like to hear a review of Come & See... but it may beyond your scope.. it is a brutal film. Yet it is the closest I have seen a true depiction of the total depravity revealed in combat.
I thought “In the Mood for Love” also was regarded as one of the greatest too? One of my faves! A gorgeous film.
In the mood for love might be the greatest movie ever made.
I really appreciate how you don’t stick to reviewing popular movie and/or US releases. I love world cinema and just finished watching this movie. It took me three days to watch, but I definitely felt her mundane existence.
I haven’t seen this movie (yet) but agree with prior posted comment. This plot /scenes made me immediately think of the music video diptych by the Eurythmics “Beethoven” /“I Need a Man.” Maybe Annie and Dave drew inspiration from this movie.
Fun fact: the voice of the neighbour in the hallway (the baby’s mother) is that of the director, Chantal Anne Akerman
I was lucky enough to catch a screening of this at my local rep theater last year after it topped the Sight and Sound poll. Definitely one I was putting off to watch in a theater where I’m forced not to be distracted! I was surprised at how absorbed I was for the entire 200 minutes.
What is ironic to me is of all the movies you both review, is how iconic you fellas are! Y'all are so alike and yet so different! You guys are my favorite movie ever "!👍😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍
I have so much thought and feeling about this movie. It resonates to the bone.
First, she had a husband and she did all these mundane chores for. Also she had sex with him. The only person left is a teenage boy. Her son. I'm not sure of his exact age. But even if he is older, say 17, 6 years ago would make him 11. He would be on the brink of beginning his male walk into sexuality. With such a devastating lose.
So I can see the split of herself, 6 years after his death, confident in the split, so automatic, void of emotion. Machine like.
Caring goes to feeding, clothing, setting up things for her son.
Sex goes to the tricks.
She has continued her "wifely duties" in two opposite directions. With all energy focused on items instead of real intimacy and engagement of relationships. I'm watching this again. The details are micro, a cadence in the clicks of the light switches and clacks of her heels. Her snatching up the towel after sex. Opening the window to get the sex smell out of her room. It seems like the fatal sex scene is done with the purpose to make one think that the faceless man on top of her is to be her husband or death itself, signifying her true feelings after finally feeling something, anything after her husband's death. Rage and anger are feelings that are "not allowed" in society by women. She controls what she can. Her reorganizing everything after she allows man to "handle" her. A lot of women, unknowingly, through divorce, nowadays, have the same experiences this woman has had. To focus on the male son. Daughters don't usually allow mothers to do this to them. Mothers will be met with rebellion. She does so much for her son. Keeping him inadvertently younger for her to have purpose. And she cannot even answer his questions or have any conversation. With the baby. She first ignores, fleeting glaces to make sure it's alive. Next, baby is upset with more contact with her. I believe she does it three times because "three times is charm". 3 times she picks up the baby, the most innocent and mirrored self. The baby shows her what she is inside. And she finally sees it to be true, leaving the baby to console itself to a better state than she is able to provide.
This is a thick movie.
This movie is true art that can be interrupted in many fascinating layers. I love the depth you both give your reviews, I'm so happy to have stumbled upon your channel!! Your channel is intelligent and interesting, it gives space for art and interpretation. Thank you.
Children of Men and Shawshank Redemption are both in my top ten
You guys are riding the crest of a new media wave. I can not express enough how fantastic your videos and reviews are.
Keep on, keeping on.
Wow, I think I really need to see this one. I feel like I can relate to a lot of what you described. Minus thinking about murdering a trick!
One of the so many things I love about this channel is how many interesting movies you've introduced me too!
I'm so glad that you are reviewing this. This film is an unforgettable experience.
Amazing insights; very thoughtful conversation.
I got so emotional when I learned this movie had topped the Sight and Sound list, a true masterpiece, thank you Chantal Akerman
Please more of these types of vids please!!!
I love this movie, I watched it 4 times in a row one time. It's very soothing and fascinating, I always find a new detail.
I wonder was her character a point of reference for Bree on desperate housewives
I lasted about 40 minutes with this one, and j’adore des film Francais. I too saw it made best film of all time. I appreciate your review as I do not intend to ever sit through the rest 😀
i made it about an hour in and then noticed there are 2 hours of watching a woman do chores left 💀life is too short..
It's funny how I've watched your channel long enough to know what the verdicts will be just by the expression on your faces
I didn't know this film existed; after watching your review, I went online to see where I could watch it. Fortunately, it's streaming on Max. It was a perfect time for me to watch it, as I'm on vacation this week, so I did it in the afternoon. I understand the reason why the film is more than three hours long. The viewer needs to see the unraveling of Jeanne's routine, and it's fascinating to watch. The lack of a soundtrack and limited dialogue allows us to focus on the subtleties. I even noticed the scenes when only one chair was at the kitchen table. Thank you for reviewing this film and bringing attention to it.
I heard about this film before and wanted to watch it but didn't remember any details about it or even where I heard it from. So thanks for uploading this video. I will watch and come back to see your review.
You both are so thoughtful about all of these films and such a treasure to watch. Thanks!
Joseph's haircut makes him look younger.
Oh, these Kids don't know.....Eurythmics' Video for "Beethoven (I Love To Listen)" borrows BIG TIME from 'Jeanne Dieman'; Annie Lennox plays a repressed Housewife whose inner psyches mesh, and explode into a "psycho-Vamp" who 'breaks free' of her shackled existence, and become the centerpiece of their 1987 Album, "Savage"..these Boys will LOSE IT when they see it!
Halloween 1978, my GFOAT.
When ever I see the title Greatest Film Ever Made….I’m curious 🤔…one night woke up and turned on TCM and what was playing was The Passion of Joan of Arc, the silent version of the saint. Digging a bit deeper into this masterpiece, a movie could be done about the Dutch director, Carl Theodor Dreyer, who received a lot contempt, criticism…the film was actually cut from it’s original version by, Archbishop of Paris and government censors. Even with the cuts it was a critical success and was honored with the title being one of the greatest films ever made….after that late night viewing I thought, they are not wrong.
The actress, Falconetti, this was one of 2 films she made. Her mental illness may have prevented her from any real level of success…..
This long a&& comment to say…thanks for the review, now I’m interested, can this film knock The Passion of Joan of Arc off the podium.
All the best 😊
Boy harsher reference 🔥🔥 great review as always
Joseph , I love your new haircut from one hairstylist to another!
I think the bravery of making movie about such mundane stuff and the influence it has had on so many film makers and it's new found fame - it's become more popular in the last 10 years than it was before - is what propelled it to the no.1 spot - also the fact that the director killed herself party due to the fact that very few were interested in other types of movies from her and wanted another Jeanne Dielman.
Blazing Saddles is the Greatest movie of all time.
Thanks 🎬👍
Thank you!
I love that Nick is listening to Boy Harsher :3 theyr so popular amongst my (slightly younger) gay generation. I'd recommend the band Puerta Negra to if u like the 80s pop-punk synth vibe. Does the Boy Harsher interest mean yall have watched 'The Runner' or 'My Animal'?? i've never commented but I watch all ur videos
Tony Takitani 2004 is my fav film of all time.
it’s not often that a film sticks with me emotionally like Jean did. after i watched it for the first time, it made me genuinely depressed for a week lol.
Can you please review the 1988 Dutch film "The Vanishing".
“What year was it made” lol
Exactly. That's very important. To me anyway. 😊
@@shawnsatrinarodriguez4429It drives me crazy when streaming sites don’t bother to show the release year (or worse, a totally inaccurate year). It’s essential information.
Can Nick talk more about Sigourney Weaver he seems to really like her haha.
So proud of Joseph for sitting through such a long movie. These days I have a hard time after 1.5 hrs 😂
A must see but not seen yet, but I really liked News from Home, although I don't know why. Also at 52 on best film list.
My All Time Top 5:
The Sting
Rear Window
12 Angry Men
Once Upon A Time In The West
Schindler's List
Boy Harsher. So good.
If it’s what I think it is, one could argue that. I love love love that movie. Long and confusing? Yes. Plot? Not much.
Will you guys review A Clockwork Orange? I just saw at the theatre and wanna know what you guys thought of it.
We've seen it several times. It would make a good Patreon selection.
Darlings though, three hours? No way, I have adhd and use fidget toys big time. I doubt I could ever watch in a movie theatre that's for sure. I know it's my loss, but physically it's a major nightmare for me to sit through, even if I was watching this at home. How do you guys do it, seriously?❤
it's Jurassic Park for me
Nick was speaking a foreign language! Then, realized it was a movie title - then couldn't figure out if it was French or German, yep, so it's Belgian 🤨*But* no matter, the character here 'disturbing!' Assuming 'working on auto-pilot', until she felt 'alive' or present! Long movie - good that it was worth it!
Greatest Film of All Time? - Pee Wee's Big Adventure. In my Top Ten, ha- because it is totally unique and more subversive than people think
Is this movie like watching “Elephant” by Gus Van Sant?
Film ratings are very subjective. There are films that are written very well and there are films that really elicit an emotional reaction from me. And then there are films that defy categorization where you are well written, emotionally satisfying, yet frustrating on some level.
Come on occasionally TRICK....😅
All this woman needed was an onlyfans account and a meal delivery service!
I would love to know which movies you both have given 5 stars.
They both have letterboxd accounts and you can sort by the score they give the movies they've watched.
@@laceyace181 Thank you!
YES!! Boy Harsher!!!!
Have you seen a movie called "Womb" or "Clone"? It has two names... I think it was a good film, but uncomfortable. It got very bad reviews. I wonder what you guyes think of that film. This film you are talking about here sounds uncomfortable too...
Nick says he loves it.
@@fishjellyfilmreviews Really!? I thought I was the only one...I think it was so insightful in so many ways. Beautiful and disturbing.
Is that the film with Eva green? If so, I have it on my watchlist and was nervous to actually watch it- thank you for the encouragement!
@@laceyace181 Yes, it is with Eva Green and Matt Smith and other great actors.
I would love to hear your thoughts when you have seen it.
Fargo is perfect
interesting…🧐
This is a great film in many many ways, but it's not the best movie ever made. You gotta be a cinephile to like this one
Wow a movie basically explained within about 3 minutes, but it’s over 3 hours..it’s a pass from me on this one guys.
Comparing Jeanne Dielman to Vertigo or Citizen Kane is a joke. It's interesting to watch a movie that's so slow and filmed from so few angles but other than some of that it's a waste of time.
Why though?
I agree that this is not "the best movie of all time," but nothing dictates what filmmaking style is or isn't "a waste of time." Sometimes it's just the slow and non-stylized type of film that's more effective
Both Vertigo and Citizen Kane were flops when they came out and Vertigo wasn't particularly acclaimed either initially.
Meh