How a small New Zealand town is fighting back against organised crime | Stuff.co.nz
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- Kaikohe in central Northland has been in the spotlight recently, with a number of public gang clashes in the streets and surrounding areas. Read more: bit.ly/3wZz2j4 | Subscribe: bit.ly/2JPg8oB
A climate of fear enveloped the Far North town of Kaikohe after two formerly allied gangs locked horns in a series of violent clashes. But proud locals are refusing to let organised crime run riot in what they say remains a good place with a bright future.
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My sister in law lived there for many years. It used to be a lovely little town. It’s a scary place now, I don’t even like driving down the street. I never want to go back there - so much anger 🥹
Shameful come on get rid of the gangs '
Why? They're cool..
@@jasonkai6326 You join a gang when you cant stand on your own 2 feet. That says alot about you
NZ police should be truely ashamed of their cowardice when dealing with gang members , gangs are causing issues in our city and you see the cops looking the other way because they are to chicken to do their job , the police would rather hand out tickets for ma and pa drivers 5 kmh over the speed limit and call that job done
you would be too if you get shot. arm all police to defend the.selves. and security must be able to protect themselves.
Um they try to help the kids that is the only way, but the police put their families in danger, they live in that same community their kids go to school in those communities.
Cowardice? YOU try going up against the big NZ PC clobbering machine and see what happens. The Police have got their hands tied. They can't do a bloody thing that even looks like infringing on these bastards' rights without the weight of the media coming down on them. You should be grateful our Police are still in business, the amount of times they've had to pay out to these scum-bags for failing to dot an i or cross at.
It's not the poilces fault it's the laws of the land take it up with the government The police have no power
Yes the Police are just like the gangs, once on their own they have no principals . I prefer not to involve third parties if I wish to stand up to a problem .
The Justice System in NZ is an absolute Joke 🤡
New Zealand is a place where criminals and criminal activity are encouraged, they thrive there. Many kiwis are law abiding citizens, but the ones that aren't are often left to continue doing whatever they want. New Zealand would rather blame the majority of society for the actions of criminals than actually punish criminals.
There's more bad than good . Itl never be even nit when new Zealand makes it so easy to be lazy paid for been a junkie and the rest free houses why work when u can be a gang member or dealer make 3 x the money plus get free food power housing ect . Government needs to rake a step back and start helping really family in need not just some bitch that got knocked up by 7 dofrent guys. And my taxes is what she be living on while drinking ect . It's joke new Zealand is a joke .it's embarrassing
Funny your not the first to say that every small town and city has its woes and the mobs run it like a brand new super market your absolutely 💯🗣 right ✅
Is this state of rising crime (being under reported and not actually addressed), unique to New Zealand?
It seems to me that many places around the world are experiencing similar anarchy.
The Bible speaks of a time coming where 'everyone does what is right in his own eyes'
I believe that time is now. The time coming is going to be severely difficult, but those to cry out to God in prayer for his mercy and forgiveness, will be saved.
It's not too late yet, but the times of the end are very near.
"Seek the Lord while he may be found, call upon him while he is near.
Let the wicked forsake his way and the evil man, his thoughts.
Let him return to the Lord and He will have mercy upon him;
And to our God, for He will freely pardon.
Muldoon tried to engage with gangs back in the 1980's, 2022 gangs are a generational social construct. Theirs the relocation from South Auckland taken advantage of the 5k relocation grant, and the 501s from Australia, this is compounding the social marginalisation. Luxons answer will be to build more prisons.
How so? Prison inst a very good encouragement. If you mean the wealth inequality imposed by our politicians causing poverty and therefore violence then I would agree
Aotearoa we have a huge gang problem nation wide 😔
nope.. New Zealand has a huge organised crime problem nationwide. Gangs used to be gangs. Now they are organised crime syndicates and should be labelled as such and dismantled. Wait... your cops don't even carry guns. Never mind...............
Consequences already exist for those that commit crime. It is the Police that are responsible for enforcing them. Aside from that, Parents are responsible for the raising of their offspring. That is where the work must be done. Everyone knows that prevention is better than cure. If you speak to any Member of a Gang or any Criminal, every single one will explain to you that they were raised on Abuse of some sort. Raised on Violence of some sort. Raised by useless Parents in a Nutshell. Each person that joins a Gang is looking for something. Something that they shouldn't be feeling the need to do. Something they wouldn't need to do if they were raised properly with love and respect. Point your fingers where they should be rightfully pointed. At the Parents.
Violence doesn't just come.from parents. Take me for example it was my peers and teachers who were violent towards me. Though I could never hurt another innocent person or a fly for that matter, there was a time when I had to choose. A choice between returning the violence I'd received, or to turn the other cheek. It is extremely difficult to continue to turn the other cheek when all you receive is a hand of hate. Maybe if people learned to be kind instead of letting power and authority go to their heads we'd have a better society.
I totally agree, it has become fashionable to blame the govt for everything and expect them to make up for our own shortcomings, it creates false excuses for our bad behaviour ie "its not my fault, its society's fault therefore I am not a bad person". A point that I would raise though is that there are more people that suffered the same and didn't end up in gangs than did. We never hear of the people that grew up in bad situations but didn't end up "bad", there are far more of them than the other. I think we all need to be held to account for our own actions and not be handed easy excuses.
My Dad was a drunk, I don't drink, my Mum was a compulsive liar, I always tell the truth and abhor liars, I believe that if you lie you are in fear, I am not afraid of the consequences of telling the truth. My mum also on one occasion broke 4 lengths of bamboo on my arm, leaving my entire arm covered in bruises and swelling and hit me on the back of my head with a barstool so hard it burst blood vessels in my eye when I was 10yrs old, I have never laid a hand on my daughter or my grandchildren and have never contemplated doing so. Regardless of our upbringing we all have choices and should be accountable to ourselves for those choices and to others if those choices affect them.
It’s these kinda guys that make my blood boil
You don’t know what it’s like bud you think getting beaten turns us that way get real m8
Our successive Govts are soft on gang violence and it's escalated now with 501s being sent here from Aussie and a huge increase in the use of guns. Things need to change and rapidly in this regard.
I THINK THE STRONG HAND SHOULD MEAN JUST THAT -!! NO MESSING ABOUT-!! I THINK AS THE SO-CALLED SOFT PUNISHMENT BECOMES NOTHING MORE THAN A JOKE - THESE YOUNG RUNTS WILL INEVITABLY SEE PEOPLE'S LIVES AS A JOKE - JUST TO TAKE IT FOR A JOKE-!!
Dealing with old problems with old solutions.. such creativity 🤨 A lot of things can better a community, not just extra security cameras. Are the thinking caps really on? Or did you guys just have a meeting and then get drunk
Actually in case you haven't noticed the government and these so called charities do NOT want the problems to go away. Then they would be out of jobs. There is a whole helping industry that profit off of the misery of New Zealanders. When a couple divorces for example, they will spring up in action to make sure the divorce is final, to 'help' the children, to get lawyers involved, etc. None of those organisations is there to help families reconcile and reunite. Think about it.
As long as we have brutal gangs, we need firearms to defend ourselves from these beasts
Ngapuhi stand up for your rights. These gangs will destroy your town
All you gang bangers, you're a bunch of strong, prideful men right? Ready to throw down for your set at any moment? While show some fuckin' mana and do it in the broader sense for your communities. Your kids, partners, mums and dads, all of your whanau also have to live in these places, there's a famous saying "dont shit where you eat", learn it. Leave all that bullshit in the past... MAKE MONEY, real gangsters move in silence!
Real gangsters aren't gangsters.
Bro, stand down and let someone with the courage deal with the gangs.
Who? the PM took all their assault rifles away and gives Govt. money to gangs.
It's hard to break the cycle, I found The Lord. Don't give up on the young kids, even if they have committed the heinous of crimes. Don't give up on them, they can change, just need someone to show them what Love truly is about.
Has anyone ever thought...would it help if the NZ Army fought the gangs off? Obviously the police powers are not working. The best way to stop the gangs is prevention to start with but the ones that are in full blown anarchy need the Army to step in I believe. Its literally an opportunity for war.
I do like a good opportunity , no need for the army mate , just get out the way of the masses , or put a price on patched members heads , they would disappear over night .
"Once Poverty is fully eliminated?.....Gangs will never flourish, until then? We will remain and evolve with the times"
- Paul Castellano
you're joking right ? 50 million people just lost their jobs...
Once poverty is eliminated,gangs will sell more drugs simple.doesnt matter if your rich or poor they prey on everyone.
Take their bikes away that will hurt them and c.f.cdont give it back crush it sell it but no second chance stuff up and ure gone
Do what the aussiea do ban patchs in public
Bigups to matua Shane. Tell it like it is
You can bet these gangsters are not locals, they are taking the 5k move out of Auckland,
Sad and nonsense 😞 😪 what is happening in my hometown kaikohe,well start helping out Shane.....INSTEAD OF TALKING....ALL THE LOVE HAS GONE TOWARDS KERIKERI,THATS KAIKOHE WITHOUT NOTHING APART FROM SMALL COMPANIES IN TOWN...I LOVE MY HOMETOWN KAIKOHE THE HUB OF NGAPUHI 💚💚💚
You didn't try HARD ENOUGH SHANE.... KAIKOHE
NEEDS LOVE EMPATHY AND OVERLOOK ING....
It's not the town it's the people running the area there's been a huge breakdown in families as well there's a lack of role models good parenting in the whanau.
Fair enough shane jones enough is enough
Some of these gangs have lost souls
old people talking aint going to help
The force of law is paramount!
Maybe gangs are doing more for those kids in their eyes than their gov says something.
What about their parents? Don't they have a responsibility to take care of their children?
My Hometown... GODDAMN this is so disappointing.
Our real wars inside nz. But hey let's send millions of dollars to a war that has nothing to do with kiwis ffs.
Right o...council needs to round up all business owners...tradesman...etc...and pull together youth identified as high risk from social workers/ family/law enforcement/etc...
Each youth depending on numbers would be pared up with a trady or business owner for half a day as youth will shadow persons pared with around;
Learning and witnessing the many pros of what they themselves could achieve once they familiarize with job intel and a bit of knowledge being taught to them from said pared
person/s...every so often..shift them around to new sites/businesses, so they all get a taste of different types of jobs out there instead of your ass breaking min wage labouring job that youth rarely stick at; because they only see those kinds of jobs as a reflection of themselves...limited knowledge.
Many options and many doors thatspark their interest
Trevor Chappell for Prime minister.
Violence is positively corelated with low IQ as is gang participation.
What's new? Lol. Tell us something we didn't know.
Pity there's no police..
I just wondered , what are “real people” vs everyone else?
And the saddest thing about all this. They are probably cousins...
This Kau Matua is a wise man
Sad, I thought the biker gang were the ones fighting crime
lol..they're meth dealers. They ARE the crime.
Send the army in
Bro I seen a dealer try stab one of their costumers at a traffic light over money issues. P.s it was broad daylight.
It's interesting that this piece focused on the fear created by gangs, but failed to discuss employment opportunities and economic mobility in the area.
Very briefly one of the interviewees touched on the youth seeing being part of a gang as an economic means to an end. That would suggest that economic mobility and employment prospects in the town are poor.
In some of the vision in this video there are shots of the main drag with lots of empty store fronts. That's a town in economic decline, how could one expect there to not be a rise in crime including violent crime under those kinds of conditions?
What good are training programs if there aren't well paying jobs in the area to go into? What's the point of improving infrastructure, if no one is using existing infrastructure?
The council want the local businesses still hanging on to pay for a camera network and a security guard to patrol at night. That's only taking away further from the resources those businesses have access too, and for what? So someone is definitely there to call the police? That's a nowhere solution that doesn't even address the symptoms let alone the causal factors. The council need to get real.
You want to fix this problem, you need to get large enterprise interested in the town. The kind of enterprise that not only can offer lots of jobs, but opportunities for career/economic progression.
Any camera network should be a joint investment initiative between council and police, not private business. Such a camera network should be operated by the police service directly. It should be police patrolling the crime hotspots, not private security without any power or authority to do anything beyond take notes and call police.
Making excuses about police being stretched too thin is unhelpful. It enables the underfunding by accepting the situation and trying to outsource policing instead of just finding a real solution.
So you're saying that there are no jobs there (how then the place attracts so many immigrants?) and if there were jobs these thugs would then stop and go to work? CCTV solves nothing also when there's no accountability, hard exemplary punishment.
The gangs are the biggest employers.... in the meth trade. Where do you think they get all the money for the " bling " ?
@@marcoantonioperin2187 you’re obviously not from nz so you wouldn’t understand
Parents are to blame and no law weak laws haha 😆 good job
I'm proud to be Ngapuhi love my iwi the only answer I see for any town is Respect and that one word goes for everything you touch see,if there was understanding about this word of honor to not only our next generation but older generation to imagine the change that will happen there's alot of people out there that are too quiet and these people are the ones to reach out to and the only to do this is a high level of communication I know as a ngapuhi not only we proud but we loud and love that spot light but enough said that's my opinion cheers
I know what is wrong, the people have forgotten the way of their great Grandfathers.
Bullsheet
hui fui, bro, you need to talk like a person who knows a true resolution. Talking is just until the next time
Compared to what the privilege monster gang members of parliament have done to Māori.
Jacinta: melt all the legal guns!
Also jacinta: lets not have a task force raptor like Australia, MC's definitely don't supply guns.
Raptor squad sorts our country right out, cannot believe New Zealand doesn't have them in their country.
This may seem a bit stupid but i thought New Zealand was a peaceful laid back country
It is
@@JubJub817 it is apart from the losers who keep being violent and dealing crack to all the drug addicts.
It generally is. Speaking from someone who have gone places. There are a few places to avoid but I think even gangs infested areas are still safer than say Manila or Johannesburg, if you stay out of their way.
not since the 80's.
Tex Wilson for mayor
Light over dark
Remember...
THIS is the CIVILISED SOCIETY that YOU voted for...
Hundreds of years to get to this point.
Treaties - Policies - Legislation...
Still shit huh?
Hilarious !
"I would say to the broader Maori community" so what, most of us?
Come to aus you’ll see what real gangland is all about
gangs = faster money
Mans called it a narco village lol
Where is this town haha
Do they buzz a lot 😆😆😆😆😆😆
That's my korero
That's it my geeZ
GET INTO EM cuzzy
Faaaaar I taught Deez guys woulda at least into it my cuZ
Rotfl yeah okay and I'll win lottery 2x this year. Dreamers it's not going away it's just becoming more and more skilled to avade ect .
why was this recommended to me🤔 I dont even live in NZ😂😂😂
What's new It's been like that since 80s.I mean the Gang leaders....hit on those ....But still family oriented ..
..I remember the Drive through Drug den Mangere....haha 😂 Drugs are everywhere $$$$....The Ice ❄ ice...still around.
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no land no job no house what do yous all expect ! pakeha solution build a jail in kaikohe
Karens everywhere
Unless your paying very good wages and supplying good jobs so people don't have to live week to week you'll never ever stop young people from joining up ever, but goodwill with trying hahaha
Who will pay the "very good wages and supply the good jobs"?
Spot on
Bro ant none of those bees killed any bloods
KAIKOHE DEMOLITION 😑🙏 Kia Kaha team ✌😎
It's probly more safer to join a gang then the police..At least the gang looks out for there people..S**t look at how they treated our people during these protest.M.Fs FTP
Plenty of free courses for jobs and Winz offers 5k to move to a region that has work like Bay of Plenty $25/hr
Backward mentality, u need to wake up to reality.
Nah
Kaikohe has the best P
What a cultural paradise
And fish n chips
⏱️🆙🐸✝️🏰🪖🪖🪖🪖🪖👑🏰✝️
All my tax money goes to the gangs. Thanks Jacinda.
And don’t forget about John Key who stripped down the police budget which never recovered.
I feel for this town. When I was 8 years old we lived in Hansford Court, a new subdivision in Gisborne NZ. The new subdivision was built behind the DB Hotel which was a regular drinking spot for alot of mongrel mob gang members. So the pub carpark, which seemed so huge at the time, was about 20 metres up the road from our house. One afternoon, me and my best friend were heading down toward the carpark which we used to cut through to get to the local dairy. We were halfway through the carpark when three Bedford trucks pulled up and black power gang members began jumping out from the back with baseball bats, macheties, knives, and I even saw one with a gun.
Now that viseral feeling overwhelmed me and my friend, as we both had grown up seeing violence nearly on a daily basis so we knew shit was about to go down. We were about 20 feet away from the trucks when one of the guys who'd just jumped out, turned to us and said 'go home now!' and we began backing up and then sprinted toward home, but when we got 20 metres away, we ducked down behind a mound on our tummys and watched what unfolded.
It was all on. Mongrel mob members were filing out of the pub doors, and began attacking the black power members. Now, I told you that we were pretty immune to violence in those days but nothing prepared me for what was unfolding before our very eyes. I saw one guy come in with a machete and nearly cut a man's arm off, another who was already on the ground and being stabbed repeatedly, someone else lay on the ground with a dent in his head and blood everywhere and the sprays of blood was what got to me the most even to this day.
The locals were trying to defuse the violence but there was no stopping it.
People who have lived in these kind of communities know violence as a way of life, but there's always this inner basic viseral feeling when you witness extreme violence on this scale. All the niceties of society are stripped away, leaving you with the most urgent of messages screaming in your head to run for your life. After the police arrived, there was a standoff but the damage had been done.
We sprinted back to my place and my friend vomited on the back lawn and we were both shaking. When mum came back from work, we told her about what we saw and she said to never let anyone else know that we saw anything. So we did. We were just kids but the PTS that came afterward was sometimes too much to bear considering we still had our neighbours fighting, across the road one of our neighbours had no problem dragging his wife out the front door and locking her out all battered and bruised for everyone to see. My mum (who was a single mum with no help from our father) knew what that felt like and allowed the neighbor to come to our place and sit with her till the husband calmed down and would come to get her.
So now as a grandmother, I still have anxiety due to what I witnessed. I can only hope that this situation in my homeland Aotearoa, New Zealand, will not escalate and continue. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone in this town. Kia Kaha Kaikohe.
I totally feel for you, thank you for sharing your experience.
Stay safe, God bless you 🙏
"Visceral" you like that word don't you?
Kinda like saying "Velocia Raptor"...
Good story though, you're lucky to have seen that. Woulda been an awesome memory. Good thing the members were nice enough to warn ya.
Far that is alot to go through
Thats heavy.
@@tritesy- ''What is the meaning off that word- ???- ''Visceral.'' ???
Coward politician are scared to do anything about them
coward police to , i saw a gang member do a burnout in front of 2 cops and they just looked down at their phones and pretended it wasnt happening
Do wat Australia has done bikes can't wear there patches clubhouses closed down they can't ride bikes together no consorting with each other ect ect let there clubhouses be mt Eden prison they can do whatever they like in da chail
I'm stuck living in northland and I'm sick of the gangs and drugs being around and normalized!
sorry to hear that, its no way to live. Ever considered moving?
Tell them to use the brother's boat, go for a dive an sell what you don't eat to the supermarket. Get the kids to sell fruit and watercress to sell for food empire being built.
Sadly we hear and see this behavior more and more across the country. There are no consequences in NZ. The justice system needs to be looked at to make people think twice about what they are doing. But the behaviour from these thugs shouldnt be tolerated and deserve a lot more than a slap on the hand.
Well said
Your way of thinking is the exact reason why this is carrying on today . Instead of fixing the root cause you try and increase the punishment as a deterrent , which doesnt work.
@@sonofnaphtalifromisrael8531 you're wrong, history will prove that fear is the ultimate deterrent. Not everybody is capable of processing diplomacy.
@@timwilliam9855 Yet to hear a single good argument that was proceeded by "history will prove that". You would have thought that given how much history we have as humans it would have been proven already, and yet it's not. Same thing as saying "nah bro the past 10,000 years of human history might not have my back right now bro but the next 10 years just wait".
@@timwilliam9855 History proves that fear is the ultimate deterrent? People been breaking laws with much harsher punishments then jail time through out history. They use to kill people in different ways and still people broke those laws.
The more gangs, violence and crimes are accepted as normal, the worse it gets.
Don't get fooled by the "they don't mess with us, just bash at each other, so it's fine", it won't last.
Trust me, I know some countries and regions that are some of the most violent on the planet, but it only got like that after the population gradually accepted increasing crime and too much leniency towards criminals. Criminals aren't victims, they either get punished harshly and get back in civilized society as a civilized human or they should get back in jail or just asked to leave the country.
I agree with you. Responsibility to me means being part of a community which lifts up. Not spiral down.
This is actually blatantly wrong if you look at statistics around the world. The places with the hardest judicial punishments have the highest reofending rates, locking people out of the society only creates more anger and violence. Look at a place like Norway or Sweden and you can see they've gotten their reofending rate down to less then 5% of everyone who goes throigh the system. Education and pathways are the only real way to change someone's life. Treating someone like an animal only makes them act more like one
Kaos Warrior I grew up in beautiful Taranaki in the 60s and 70s and the various gangs, along with the violence etc, were viewed as a normal part of Kiwi life back then!
I even remember one particular gang being like unofficial security guards at a hotel in New Plymouth.
I also recall witnessing a brawl between rival gangs in a street in the CBD and the police didn't even turn up, whereas many would be there within minutes nowadays, which is understandable. I was in a shop with my sister at the time, so the owner locked us all inside, for obvious safety reasons.
Luckily, no one was stabbed, or killed, and they eventually stopped of their own accord, then got on their bikes and left as quickly as they'd arrived.
I won't go into anymore details because it's way too much, except to mention that I do understand why people join gangs etc. I was drawn to the people and lifestyle myself, due to childhood trauma issues, which is often the case. 😥
I live near Chicago and it's a nightmare. The local newspaper has an interactive site where you can follow all the latest shootings. Once they get big they can start paying off the cops and buying politicians. Don't let it get that bad.
These gang members like the rest of the NZ population need decent job opportunities and wages that go with it. When people have nothing to do, when life is very expensive and near impossible to exist on crap wages, people turn to illegal activities to survive. The government should be investing in industry, manufacturing etc to create employment opportunities. Get the country working hard, this is how you eliminate many social problems. It's not just NZ either, Australia is becoming the same. Our governments and corporate giants have destroyed so many opportunities for wealth creation through moving our own manufacturing of goods and services - all gone to China for a quick buck. Now we are all suffering.
That's right, why is housing and cost of living so out of control? Of course crime will go up along with it
Or you know maybe not shoot people and sell drugs? They should be damn grateful to be living in this country with free Healthcare and social welfare. Get off your ass and find a real job like the rest of us, literally everyone is treated equal and given the same opportunitys in this country. If you choose to be a criminal you deserve to be locked up.
you can't blame the government for this lol... I know its really tough right now, but there is still a level of personal responsibility. I know I wouldn't want to hire 90% of these bellends
They've got the same opportunities as everyone else. We had one recently where I work. He started well but very soon got bored, stopped doing the job, started getting 'sick' a lot, then, when he was denied time off because it couldn't be possible, he just took it off, regardless, and dropped everyone in the shit. I advise anyone against giving them a job. Once a gangsta, always a gangsta.
@@alfredagain It's a false sense of entitlement that corrupts them from cradle to grave . You can educate the ignorant but can't help the stupid . Stupid does what things are stupid .
The govt needs to declare gangs as domestic terrorists.
They tried and can't
@@carlosyeet7835 Try harder
They will never lol. They'll give them money and host meetings with them
The gangs are funded and actually run the cities n towns weather or not the police want to admitt this or the council this is how it is 💯
And then what? There needs to be a clear definition of a terrorist, and drug gangs. They are not the same. However, using laws similar to those used on terrorists, now I'm all for that.
How does a young, gang member. Who does not work. Ride a motorbike, worth thousands. It is either stolen, or obtained, by elicit funds. Seize the motorcycle and follow the money. If they cannot prove that they earned the money to buy the vehicle. They lose it. The same happens to the idiots who say. I bought it for him. Follow the money. Works every time.
And then they commit more crime for another...lol...u need to provide alternatives.
Agreed..follow the money you will get to the head of the snake..
I remember when i was a small kid it was cool to be in a gang.. then i grew up!!!
Glad you grew up, and good on you, but you probably did harm to people you'll never be able to right the wrongs to.
@@alfredagain He said when he was small( as in perception ) to be in one, he wasn't saying he was, so stop misinterpreting , you must be a little unbalanced . Maybe grow up
Hmmmm it's ashame, we are in 2022 and there are still gangs.... honestly they need to grow up.
I'm originally from Gisborne NZ and it's just the same there so sad 😔
Privilege
Not impressed they stole my car a couple of months ago they don't give a crap who they hurt!
I left NZ over 30 yrs ago..just sick of the constant undercurrent pervasive violence..the springbok tour violence opened my eyes.
Same here. I used to be a Traffic cop and dealt with gang members all the time ( in the 80's ) and they had some respect for the law ( and cops ) left in them. Not now. They only respect the financial rewards of dealing in drugs. They'll stomp on anything else. NZ has gone to the dogs... literally.
Which country do u live in now?
I'm leaving as soon as my country is no longer officially known as New Zealand.
@@alfredagain AOTEAROA HARD
My friend who lives in Kaikohe was bashed over the head while walking the dog in the park, without provocation or warning. Result: a bad concussion, loss of trust in humanity. Probably a gang initiation?
So Laughable The People and the Government allow it to happen. DRUG dealers and Crime Stoppers are best friends. Everybody knows the Solution to the Problem we just love to see it happen , we Vote Fear and Anxiety we did not vote for Hope.
Strong hand of the law, needs to be subjugated. Public civillians need to feel safe in their communities.
It's not just about one criminal being punished, it's about making an example of what happens to those who commit crime . Lets see the new government implement these old ideas that worked for hundreds if not thousands of years .
This happens almost daily in Auckland though with the murder rates rapidly rising?
Gangs are for people who can't make it on their own
Exactly!
or those who love being assholes and selling drugs.
Welcome to Labours New Zealand 🇳🇿
The biggest criminal are the people in suits sitting behind desks
dennis- that dogg- Joseph biden
What are talking about ,they aren't running around bashing people,sell drugs,turn the cities into places of gang warfare, they do exactly what you said wear suits and sit behind there desks duh .
I'm from NZ. My mum is from Wairoa, a town with more than it's fair share of gang problems. The best way to to deal with these guys is to stamp them out. Refuse them service, don't deal with them. If you want Mana, you need to work for it and earn it. Lol
who told you that ? or did you just imagine it...
If you want Mana 😑 you need to work for it 🤦🏾♂️.... Whaaaaaaat 😂
That Doesn't Even Make Sense... 🥴
YOU Don't Have a Clue What Your Talking About... Foolish. 🗣️💩
And what do you do when they threaten to "punch your fuckin' head in" if you refuse them service and they're right there in your face? Easier said than done.
man - ahh was pasin through wairoa and had to nearly kill a Hine in full Mongrell Mob uniform/ Regalia. She was more Deadly than the 7 males with her when they had the Audacity too target me. Iff they want a re-run ahh now on my Grandfaters farm on Highway 50 about 7-8 Miles/ kilometres from Tikokino. N.B.B. - What-ever Total War Hard-ware they want too use on me, - 'ahh will - accept.''- ''Teee heeee heeee heee Heee.''
Would stop in kaikohe for breakfast before we set on for the hills and valleys to plant tree's. Small town activity with big town clowns. Not everyone in kaikohe are bad people.
Politicians have away of making themselves blame free they supported government policies that made people unemployed
I thank you for leaving the comments on so people can express their stories and opinions.
iff ahh been hit now 200 times by - scooters/ push-bikes/ skateboards in the last two/2 years here on the foot-paths and streets in Auckland City 1010 what about the 30,000 blind humans in this town- These doggs go berserk att night-time in their passions and get upp too evil actions under the cover off dark-ness, and go hell for leather all over town on their Demonic - Scooters and Push-bikes and other dogg-shitt that they can dream upp too fuck- off the public on the foot-paths.- $$$$ State- rewards off $$$$ millions dollars too clean the shitt upp on the foot-paths and roads and streets off all towns in new zealand before you too end upp in Hospital like ahh did in -September- 2021 A.D.- rou's
The Gibbs Guy I'm glad as well because they're extremely interesting and I realise that it's an old video, yet it's still relevant.
I've mentioned that I grew up in Taranaki in the 60s and 70s and gangs, along with the violence etc, were a normal part of Kiwi life! I also experienced traumatic situations in regard to back then, so have a lot to say on the matter. 🙁
They have to cause most of us will not bother if we can't express our discern, it's a good ploy .
The initiatives the council person mentioned are fluffy and wont do anything. Shane Jones understands the issues and real solutions however needs wide spread support to may a real difference. It takes a wide variety of strategies including heavy enforcement, but we must understand the reason why kids with very little gravitate to gangs...."perceived" brotherhood and bling. This thing is way bigger than Kaikohe too
Don't trust anyone that use "uhm" alot in their conversation
Talking to the gangs, Cctc and a car that drives up and down... Sounds like they're doing nothing. 🙄🙄🙄
They need to make it illegal to go around as a gang like in Aussie, with no Patches and get rid of the club's H/Q, Big fines, and so on.
Hardout m8