George Friedman: Fear & Loathing in Ukraine

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 9 фев 2015
  • Stratfor founder and chairman George Friedman discusses how mutual fears between the United States and Russia has exacerbated the conflict in Ukraine.
    This Carnegie Council event took place on January 30, 2015. For complete audio and transcript and video clips, go to: www.carnegiecouncil.org/studio...

Комментарии • 113

  • @wolfgangwust5883
    @wolfgangwust5883 2 года назад +87

    Seven years later...here we are.

    • @tyrantonion6660
      @tyrantonion6660 2 года назад +2

      Indeed...

    • @seregadno
      @seregadno Год назад

      Did something change? US plays europe like a toy, starting brotherly war (I consider provocations of their puppets as start).

    • @Bert2368
      @Bert2368 Год назад

      8 years later, here we continue to be.
      Abd from the rather minimal views YouRube documents of this, one may extrapolate the fear USAs "deep state" holds of wide public visibility and any honest nation wide discussion of these matters.

  • @MarcinMoka1
    @MarcinMoka1 Год назад +32

    This actually did age very well (watching in 2023)

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal 11 месяцев назад +1

      How do exactly? Genuinely interested to hear your thoughts

    • @user-jn7ks9nk1l
      @user-jn7ks9nk1l 3 месяца назад

      Я пишу из 13 февраля 2024 года.Время все расставляет по своим местам.Посоле интервью Путина Карлсону и агонии англосаксов Вам ещё нужны доказательства.?.​@@GuinessOriginal

  • @goldmann9473
    @goldmann9473 Год назад +23

    So ITS about interest , not about democracy ..

    • @Bert2368
      @Bert2368 Год назад +3

      !BINGO

    • @TokyoTaisu
      @TokyoTaisu Год назад

      There's no such thing as democracy

  • @Windband1
    @Windband1 2 года назад +24

    Ultimately this guy is still speaking from a US imperial establishment perspective, and he's leaving out a number pieces.

    • @TokyoTaisu
      @TokyoTaisu Год назад +1

      Yeah well he's still more neutral than others.

  • @juz3r1
    @juz3r1 Год назад +8

    We understand everything now...

  • @marcelbas
    @marcelbas 2 года назад +29

    "What is he doing? He is telling all our plans!"

    • @Windband1
      @Windband1 2 года назад +4

      LOL. Right?

    • @juditboth1015
      @juditboth1015 Год назад +6

      Fasza! Már régen erre készül USA!

  • @Windband1
    @Windband1 2 года назад +69

    I'm sorry, but I take major exception with his framing US interests as "fear based"!! The interest of the US has ALWAYS been global economic hegemony. And so, from that point of view, the US orchestration of this entire situation has been OFFENSIVE, and not "fear based".

    • @wittelsbacher27cameron16
      @wittelsbacher27cameron16 Год назад

      War criminals are Americansa and now you are exposed

    • @JamesBrown-ux9ds
      @JamesBrown-ux9ds Год назад +4

      Yes but - being hegemon or supreme or in the end alone in charge is always fear based.
      The non-fear-based by contrast are able to stay at home and always enjoy a culture of open doors - everybody is welcome, we are not afraid.
      By the way there used to be an American singing about 'we are not afraid'?

    • @Egal0190
      @Egal0190 Год назад +7

      @@JamesBrown-ux9ds It doesn't make sense to me. When a stranger kicks in your door, kills one of your house mates, takes your money and some resources and leaves or maybe stays to take more... how do you call that "fear based"? Do you mean in a sense that they spread fear instead of being feared, maybe? I understand the "fear based" term as being a hypocritical claim of the US violating the whole planet as some kind of defensive measure. It's not - it's offensive and ruthless.

    • @fr4ctl
      @fr4ctl 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Egal0190Because anger stems from fear. Fear of not having control. So it terrifies you so much, that you become angry/HOSTILE...
      Funnily enough, mass fear and indoctrination = mass control.
      Oh the irony...

    • @ackiid
      @ackiid 6 месяцев назад

      come on, freedman works for US, he just can't go around telling the truth :D

  • @michaelmullins3396
    @michaelmullins3396 6 лет назад +36

    What did Nuland say about the Eu.? Was the contents of her phone conversation not planning a Coup d"edat, can you imagine anyone in the Kremlin doing a similar thing.

    • @OmmerSyssel
      @OmmerSyssel 2 года назад

      Lots of unusual things are imaginable in criminal Putins Kremlin: Politkovskaya, Lesin, Nemtsov, Litvinenko, Estemirova, Markelov, Baburova, Berezovsky, Klebnikov and Yushenkov...
      Putin critics who all experienced an unusually violent death. Poisoned by very very difficult accessible substances or simply shot on open street, by gunmen never found, or convicted!

    • @Windband1
      @Windband1 2 года назад +3

      Exactly.

    • @Ampel_off
      @Ampel_off 2 года назад

      The Russians maybe also orchestrated some regime changes. However they are not pretending to be the good ones who are bringing democracy and peace to the world. A "benign" hegemon.

  • @drainmonkeys385
    @drainmonkeys385 2 года назад +65

    I agree with the Russians actually

    • @OmmerSyssel
      @OmmerSyssel 2 года назад

      Majority of Ukrainian doesn't. After all it's (still...) their country.
      Keep your Putin propaganda where the sun never shines..

    • @SnowmanTF2
      @SnowmanTF2 2 года назад +1

      While I can understand why they would want to do that, how they expect to manage seems a borderline fantasy. Taken to the point they would control all the lands that control the gaps in defensible terrain around them (roughly either the USSR or Russian Empire), they would have to get around twice their population under some level of subjugation, between Finlandization to Belarus level control. At the rate they were taking nibbles like Transnistria, South Ossetia, Abkhazia it probably would take over a century to get it all back. Ukraine makes it look like they would have trouble taking Baltic country size chunks, and to keep the territory even that size likely will need some level of troupes in the area for many years. For wins they have getting states closer to them like Belarus and Kazakhstan with relatively low cost, they are having most of the other European ones get more distant and better prepared, plus that was before NATO and EU started showing recent alignment on the issue.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal 2 года назад +7

      @@SnowmanTF2 if you listen to all of his and other peoples analysis , a neutral Ukraine means they wouldn’t need to

    • @Windband1
      @Windband1 2 года назад

      @@SnowmanTF2 Putin has said from day 1 he has no interest in annexing Ukraine.

  • @froimv
    @froimv 2 года назад +14

    Well, here you go.

  • @karelsigi770
    @karelsigi770 Год назад +4

    The US should take care of itself and not unleash evil and war all over the world.

  • @johnkim5125
    @johnkim5125 2 года назад +16

    It's so demotivating to talk to others when I think like this. Passions and social media are going viral... and it's killing me welp lol

  • @salomongoldstein
    @salomongoldstein 8 лет назад +37

    Well, clear words by someone who obviously knows the exact situation without building up an illusion like the mass media does.

  • @JUST-fj7yl
    @JUST-fj7yl 8 лет назад +28

    Bravo, accurate geopolitical assement of the situation without the media dribble.

  • @jbweld6193
    @jbweld6193 2 года назад +21

    This is very relevant and prescient.

    • @fidelio5390
      @fidelio5390 2 года назад

      Well, of course - it is easy to be "prescient" if you know that your / your country's strategy is to STIFLE unrest or even civil war in the countries between Germany and Russia to prevent their working together and prosper! Zbigniew Brzezinski told us in detail why this was "necessary" for the US to stay economically the Number One. They are not our friends, nor anybody's. They are cynicle money-addicted brutes. I hope their evil schemes turn out bad against themselves, and chances are they will.

    • @Windband1
      @Windband1 2 года назад +2

      Hopefully you've also listened to the Mearsheimer lectures... They're spot on.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Год назад

      @@Windband1 also watch Vladimir Poznor, Jeffrey Sachs, Bill Bradley, Stephen Cohen, Christopher Clarke and real life lore has an excellent video on it

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Год назад

      @@Windband1 also chas freeman and jack matlock

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Год назад

      @@Windband1 and Douglas magregor

  • @gregwang8628
    @gregwang8628 Год назад +3

    We are a hegemon ourselves, are we?

  • @dr_flunks
    @dr_flunks Год назад +4

    well this aged well.

  • @uweschneider4367
    @uweschneider4367 2 года назад +14

    America first, and that includes torpedoing Europe's peace with Russia for good. Many are already claiming this, and he is proving it.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Год назад +4

      This will be seen in the future as the start of the usa's decline

    • @rafomic4210
      @rafomic4210 Год назад +4

      Yeah he clearly says it.

    • @gabyschilz4484
      @gabyschilz4484 Год назад

      Putin torpedoed peace in Europe! His state built on the FSB is an awful anachronistic autocratic entity. An illiberal democracy. Ukraine is free to chose and they did when they were attacked. They do not want to live like the palestinians in Israel. (Colonized and terrorized)

  • @c.l.369
    @c.l.369 4 месяца назад

    very educational

  • @n1cktar
    @n1cktar 2 года назад +4

    everybody decides where this line should be. Even here in comments. There is only one thing - you underestimate ukrainians and their choice on where they wanna be.

    • @Ampel_off
      @Ampel_off 2 года назад +1

      Unfortunately it's not the majority of the Ukrainian people who decide in a highly corrupt country.
      Look where the Ukraine is ranked in a global corruption Index.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Год назад +4

      I'm pretty sure they didn't want to be dead in a wrecked country but unfortunately that is precisely where they are

  • @tyravanleer7521
    @tyravanleer7521 2 года назад +4

    💡

  • @dirtyd2162
    @dirtyd2162 2 года назад +3

    Hmm

  • @JamesBrown-ux9ds
    @JamesBrown-ux9ds Год назад +3

    Still perfect and most to the point.

  • @GuinessOriginal
    @GuinessOriginal 2 года назад

    Is this guy related to Milton?

  • @filizfidan3168
    @filizfidan3168 2 года назад +8

    Russia has a different line: Kaliningrad to Ismaïl...
    Poland and Hungary, possibly Romania/Moldova will agree once they receive part of western and South Ukraine, their lost territories from Molotov- Ribbentrop pact.

  • @Wubby805
    @Wubby805 2 года назад +5

    On February 24, 2022, Russia mistook a tiger for a cat.
    Riding a tiger is fun, the lethality is trying to get off.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal Год назад +2

      Seems like Ukraine is the one riding the tiger, it's their country getting wrecked

    • @Arc1opterix
      @Arc1opterix Год назад +4

      Or US mistook a bear for a baever?)

    • @sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517
      @sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517 Год назад +2

      Imagine thinking Russia is fighing just Ukraine...

    • @hikarukun5126
      @hikarukun5126 Год назад

      Foreign troops fighting against Russia in Ukraine, of course Ukrainian soldiers are fighting too + weapons provided to Ukraine from all EU countries and USA, money support, etc
      Russia is fighting against all of them. That was a USA plan. Nevertheless if Dems win elections in 2024 that will be a USA hegemony dawn 😊

    • @user-jn7ks9nk1l
      @user-jn7ks9nk1l 3 месяца назад

      А сейчас Вы тоже так думаете?Хорошо смеётся тот,кто смеётся последним

  • @galaxyrider9599
    @galaxyrider9599 2 года назад +1

    Russia already has plenty of access to the Black sea, duh...

    • @Krik..
      @Krik.. Год назад

      посмотри на карту. и не забудь, кто управляет проливом Босфор

  • @CalculusProfessor
    @CalculusProfessor Год назад +1

    This man is always wrong, don't waste your time.

    • @paolobaldini2027
      @paolobaldini2027 Год назад +2

      you are the geopolitical Genius instead right? Good to know. Where can i find your Analysis?

    • @Bert2368
      @Bert2368 Год назад

      Your master wishes.

    • @birdbirdbird1565
      @birdbirdbird1565 8 месяцев назад

      Actually this guy is warmongering enough to make what he wants to happen in the future, in order to profits for himself, otherwise he could lose his geopolitical bet.

  • @OmmerSyssel
    @OmmerSyssel 2 года назад +12

    First of all, Crimea wasn't Russian territory, it was and still is Ukrainian territory.
    Stealing others property never makes you the rightful owner.
    Completely wrong judging Putin as primarily interested in Ukraine as a defence zone.
    It's still called the European Bread Basket, for very obvious reasons.
    As well as Putin several times publicly declared he wants to reestablish lost Soviet Borders. Meaning occupying Ukraine is only one step further into his megalomaniac dream.
    That's why it's of immense importance to support Ukraine in their heroic fight, against Putins illegal invasion.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal 2 года назад +56

      You need to learn your history. Crimea has always been Russian, is 95% Russian and was part of Russia until Krushev, a Ukrainian, gifted it to Ukraine. None of this really matters, what is important is that a neutral Ukraine would have prevented war, but Ukraine was being natoised and the represented an existential threat to Russian security, just like if Mexico was Russiafied. Putin warned about this for over a decade, and not only was he ignored, he was deliberately provoked into this war. Why? Because wars are very good for profits. Look at oil and gas prices, look at arms companies share prices. Afghanistan has has ended and they needed another war. This is it

    • @galaxyrider9599
      @galaxyrider9599 2 года назад +17

      1) Ukrainian dictator Khruschev took Crimea from the Russian Soviet Republic and added it to the Ukrainian Soviet Rebublic.
      2) Russia is the world's NUMBER ONE exporter of wheat. Why would they need Ukranian's bread?
      3) The link to the video, please!

    • @Windband1
      @Windband1 2 года назад +7

      Tell that to Israel...

    • @Windband1
      @Windband1 2 года назад +5

      @@GuinessOriginal Yes!

    • @bls5160
      @bls5160 2 года назад +6

      @@GuinessOriginal Exactly!