Can you put Electric Strings on a Classical Guitar?
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- Опубликовано: 9 окт 2024
- Well? Can you? Hear it for yourself.
0:18 - Why would you want to do this?
1:29 - Describing the test
2:26 - Listening comparisons
5:37 - Conclusion, Pros/Cons
Strings used in this video:
Nylon: D'Addario EJ27N
Electric: D'Addario EXL120 9-42 gauge
Acoustic Steel: Elixir #16052 12-53 gauge
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I love to mix it. The classical strings as the three bass strings, and the steel strings as the three high strings.
Very cool idea. If overall tension is within the design limits of the guitar you can have any combo you want!
Brilliant demo. I'm thinking of putting light gauge electric strings on my baritone ukulele. Arthritis has ruined my guitar playing but with the extra gaps on a full-sized uke I can manage a bit better. Thanks for your help.
I was in exactly the position you mentioned, I have one guitar and was hoping to get a more acoustic guitar sound at first, but you convinced me I still like the nylon strings better so I'll be buying those again thank you very much lol
Enjoyable and informative. One of the best demos I’ve seen for a while.
Thanks for doing it.
Modern guitar technology has brought us this demonstration. Very educational
Thanks for the video i enjoyed it i like the steel on the classical sound the best
Interesting, there you go!
I put the exl120 on my classical guitar. I have one finger that doesn't accept nylon strings because they are thicker. Great sound, no cutting into anything. The finger is doing much better. I'm happy!😀
Glad to hear it!
Note that any steel strings will...
1. Sound very tinny, because of the different soundboard and its bracing design.
2. Lose all intonation, because the nylon strung guitar doesn't have a compensated saddle.
3. Probably be inclined to string buzz, as the strings will not sit right in the nut sluts, which are wider for nylon strings.
4. It will not feel right, especially playing barre chords, as nylon strung fingerboards are flat and very much wider, and accoustics are narrow and radiused.
4. The action will be very high, because nylon strings are thicker, and have a bigger vibration circle, so they're set higher from the fretboard. This can't be addressed by shaving the saddle, and the neck has no truss rod to adjust any relief. .
5. There's less upper fret access on a nylon string guitar, - unless it's a cutaway.
6. Very likely damage the plastic tuner spools.
There's more, but that should convince you to forget it ..
I can't fault any of your points. However, it sounds like you're not the intended audience for this video, and that you may have missed the point altogether.
1) Curiosity. This video is for those who are curious about what it might sound like.
2) Fun. It's fun to try something like this and see how it turns out.
3) Financial restrictions. Many people simply can't afford a steel string or don't have access to one. People such as young students who don't have any money, people from low socio-economic backgrounds, people from countries or locations where guitars are hard to come by. In my travels around the world, nylon guitars are the ones that seem to find it into the hands of people with little means. Maybe their guitar hero plays a steel string but they can't afford one, this video is to show that they can approximate that sound if it's important to them.
This video is not to say everyone should put electric strings on their nylon guitars. It's to say that if you want to, you can. And here's what it might sound like. That's all.
@@HighRoadMusicTutorials Point taken, just some things to be considered...
Thank you for the points to note. Now I'm sure I want electric strings on my classical guitar. Looks like it would sound great. 💯👍
@@jeremykinya4 just don't tighten them up, or you'll soon have two guitars lol..
@@stevebicknell241Alright, thanks for the tip. Just bought the exact elecric strings he displayed. Lemme see how it goes.
How about Thomastik KR116 Rope Core Classical Strings? They're designed like Strings for bowed stringed instruments.
I use John Pearson strings. Not sure about the name, can’t remember, but something like ‘Folk Guitar Strings’. These were available through Thomastik, but you can get them anywhere. I’m very pleased with them.
Thank you so much, now i can proceed to put electric strings on my classical guitar.
Dude, go for it.
How's it been going? Does it play nice?
Try John Pearse steel strings specifically made for low tension situation. Be aware of the long term effect on the top, it might bulge outward.
> Be aware of the long term effect on the top, it might bulge outward.
If the tension numbers are the same, the top doesn't care what strings you use. I made a video about this topic: ruclips.net/video/f0-DqfLSZBE/видео.html
> Try John Pearse steel strings specifically made for low tension situation
I'll check em out.
Which john pearse exactly?
@@Rhezoloution john pearse folk or thomastik-infeld plectrum
He is right tension are same like classical but material is steel If I tune it to standard and retune after can bridge pop out
I use Thomastik KR116 Strings which are Rope Core Strings
sound terrible
@@wazzap500 Nah they're Special Classical Guitar strings made out of steel
John Pearse has specific steel strings with low tension for classical guitars.
It doesn't have the punchyness that a normal dreadnaught has, but that's not necessarily bad, and normal grand concert and OM guitars don't have that neither. So it's not a powerhorse, but still quite a usable acoustic guitar I'd say
For sure
Tried this not so long ago, the steel strings started to cut into the saddle, the nut and the tuners
We’re they lightest gauge? Curious cause I might try this
@@AB-1023 i tried them with 10-46 gauge from ernie ball, but it was a very cheap classical guitar so the nut and tuners where made of plastic or something like that
@@vincent._.t well the video say 9 gauge not 10! So no you didnt try this. You did something else. You didnt follow instructions.
@@Rhezoloution it's not really about the gauge, if I had slightly thinner or thicker strings it wouldn't change much, it's the steel that started destroying the parts where it was directly in contact with like the tuners because of the friction
Is it possible to put classical guitar strings on acoustic guitar? I know some brands make ball end, and i probably also could tie a double knot, or loop de loop like putting on ukulele strings, then insert into the the bridge, pin in
Great video
Thank you so much for this video. ❤
You’re welcome. Have fun experimenting with it
Thanks that was mighty helpful. The reason I am here is that I want the wide, flat neck of a classical guitar with regular “bend-able” guitar strings. Do we know of any electric guitar with a neck as wide as that of a classical guitar.
No I don’t, but I’ve long thought that someone should make one. Maybe I will?
@@HighRoadMusicTutorials Pls do 😊
The sound reminds me of a Viola de Fado
im owning 2 classical guitars, some how i have like 3 packs of steel string lying around. i may give it a try, one of them has already lost the low e anyways
Great video! But even though the tension is about the same, isn't there any possibility of damaging plastic tuning rollers or pegs since it's still?
I suppose if the guitar nut is made of extremely soft plastic then the thinner steel strings (strings 1 or 2) might wear the nut slot down a little bit but if it’s a high quality nut/saddle then no. No problem.
@@HighRoadMusicTutorialsThank you for your reply! I appreciate it!!
It's funny that the two instruments are pretty much as far apart price-wise as you could get...
Thx you helpt a lot
great video!!
Hi! I 🙂
Can you name the pieces you played?
Today i accidentally bought 8-38 extra slinky strings do you think i can put them on my classic guitar
I’d say so, just check the tension specs
Actually not that bad. I'm a little surprised.
Hi sir, do you think Super Slinky strings by Ernie Ball (.09-42) will damage my classical guitar? I found out that the string tension of those is calculated 86.20 pounds. Thanks in advance.
That's about 39kgs. Should be fine.
That acoustic looks like my Alvarez artist elite
The Steelstring is a Maton TE1, the Nylon is a 60's Shinko Gakki.
Hi sir, i was wondering if i can put acoustic strings on my classical guitar if they are extra light gauge, for example, Martin Extra Light 10-47 or D'Addario Super Light Gauge 09-45, and wich gauge would you recomend
For sure, all that matters is the overall tension. D’addario has a tension calculator on the website.
@@HighRoadMusicTutorials Ok, Thanks!! Just another question, what would an acceptable string tension would be? in your video you said that it was 37kg~ but i have seen people saying that a clasical guitar can handle about 40 something kg
@@7danniii I mean, I'm sure some classical guitars "can" handle more. I'm taking the 37kg from the tension associated with a standard pack of D'Addario Nylon strings. If you're going to bend the rules, probably best to stay within the 37kg if possible.
If I use light gauge acoustic strings on a classical guitar but tune it way lower than standard tuning would that work?
I don't see why not, but I'm not sure how you would calculate the resulting string tension. There may be an online string tension calculator you can use?
@@HighRoadMusicTutorials I'll have to do some research, I ask because I have a fretless classical guitar and regular nylon strings have too much buzz.
Wait before I try this I saw his video putting acoustic strings on a nylon guitar can damage it but electric strings Is OK
That’s right, steel strings on a nylon guitar will kill it. But electric strings on a nylon is fine (will sound different though).
Sound more like banjo acoustic guitar haha
Can i do this on guitar without trurod I'll uae ultra light 9s electric
You should be able to yes.
Oh my, the in toe nation!
Yep, intonation not great with Electric Strings on the Classical. I go into more detail about this at 6:39 in the video: ruclips.net/video/6UDtz8VNChQ/видео.html
this is what I'm actually looking for
Awesome! Glad you found it :-)
how to know what kind of string of an electric guitar to put on your classical guitar?like how many gauge can i use on my classic guitar?
@@HanesLeoEMalem Most of it is described in this video: ruclips.net/video/f0-DqfLSZBE/видео.html
But basically, you have to use light gauge electric strings. 9-42 gauge. Don't use anything heavier than that or you risk damaging your nylon guitar.
@@HighRoadMusicTutorials thank you!💕
Thank for saving me money!!!!! 😭🙏
You're welcome Jason 🙂
Omg, the nylon strings sound better or maybe I'm just old.
Oh yes, of course the nylon strings sound best on a Classical Guitar. The video is just to demonstrate that you "can" put electric strings on to get a pseudo-steel string acoustic sound. This is an idea for students or people who don't have a steel string guitar available.
Insane. But in a good way.
i got light gauge acoustic bronze would that work
Only ultra light
not too much difference.
put electric guitar pickups on the classical guitar lol.
Well, I kind of “have” done this one one of my acoustic guitars. ruclips.net/video/sRuzoSziSSI/видео.htmlsi=Yrve3qM8mGCbqIzz
@@HighRoadMusicTutorials sounds interesting. ill check it out then.