These sorts of people do really exist. I didn’t believe that until I met one. I served aboard the USS Nautilus (SSN-571) for the last four years of its service life. Our C. O. could remember every book he’d ever read. He could read from them page by page. He memorized every technical manual from every piece of equipment on board. He even had the schematics memorized. He demonstrated his talent many times. Pretty amazing.
For one of my university economics classes I had to read this well written book and one night while sitting in a comfy chair I had that flow state feeling as I was reading this book, then all of a sudden, when I flipped the page, an entire 6 line paragraph just jumped into my mind instantly with the deepest comprehension I had ever experienced. I got knocked out of that flow state because the experience was shocking. I've never been able to do it again but I do wonder had I done that when I was a young kid and less jaded if it would have simply become normal and it would have been nothing to read several books a day with total recall and perfect comprehension.
We had a vice principal that seemingly knew everyone's class schedule, at least for those who cut class regularly. He would walk into the lunchroom...."hey Albert, get to your math class". Amazing ! (Legit, I'm not being facetious)
Neumann was an unparalleled genius. Supposedly he could recite any book he read from any starting place even if he read it at 8 and was 50. A scientist asked Fermi what was the big deal about Neumann. Fermi told him Neumann was as far ahead of the great scientists as the great scientists were ahead of the questioner.
Sounds like they were just stroking his ego! No doubt genius but come on that intellectually far ahead of others in his field? Bs he would have deff engineered more than his name.
@@talonprice8718 Look him up on wikipedia. He has a long list of stuff bearing his name. He was a theoretical mathematician, not an engineer or anything practical, yet he could engineer things very well. Look up videos on him on RUclips. IDK why he isn't more well known. He was a terrible driver tho so that's one thing he did not master, but that seems a common trait of several of the foremost scientists.
@@talonprice8718 You need to read more about Von Neumann then. His intellect was astounding. He made multi-generational breakthroughs in every area of science he cared to ponder.
@@dannyarcher6370 unrelated but when I was 15 I worked at Papaurphys Pizza and this dude named Fermi used to come in every Tuesday and order a double extra mushroom pizza. Without fail every Tuesday for the entire 2 years I worked there.
My dad every spring time when he gets the karcher water pressure washer out without fail every time says, this is the best invention of human history. He is a simple, humble man ofc and happy 😃
My dad gifted me with "Son, be good to your buckets, and they'll be good to you." Dads. I've applied the bucket lesson to just about everything in my life!
There's a great new biography of John von Neumann called The Man from the Future: The Visionary Life of John von Neumann Hardcover by Ananyo Bhattacharya. It has an extensive discussion of automata and von Neumann's role in their development. It also has a description of all his developments, from computing to quantum physics, to game theory, to nuclear weapons. Man was a beast.
Consciousness might equal cellular automata uroboric emergence. When the global state of a system feeds back to its components, and that state is determined by prehension and dynamically mirrors its environment and other agents operating likewise, you have the extrinsic elements necessary for consciousness.
What created the cellular automata in the first place? Before anything can happen or be created, there must be awareness and the ability to understand. Cellular automata is a product of consciousness/awareness.
Cellular automation is certainly not the starting place for consciousness. It's beyond the subatomic scale and it's origin may be beyond our comprehension.
I’ve read the work, it’s called the Theory of Self-Reproducing Automata. It’s very difficult/expensive to find a physical copy of the book (though I’ve seen one at the Cleveland Public Library in a special collection you’re not allowed to check out). There are free (if poorly legible) PDF versions available online. One small thing, I often get the sense Cronin is talking about subjects that he has only a vaguely familiarity with.
Lex, I am fairly uneducated on this topic, so pardon my likely poorly articulated question…😬 I realize a molecule is not self-aware. However, the functions in these machines are highly complicated and precise in their coordination with other molecules. They seem to have many functions like error correction, invasion detection, self-protection mechanisms, and replication processes. Many of these seem as if they are necessary on an absolute level to be able to replicate initially. I might be missing something here, but would these processes have needed to be functional in the micro seconds after the Big Bang (the circumstances for such an opportunity were present at that precise moment)? Or was there no life possible following the bang and life happens randomly in certain seemingly unique scenarios (seemingly unique, because we obviously have yet to see life outside of our own little plot of land)? This has been on my mind for a couple weeks… thanks!
@Desert Shadow I disagree. If the universe was to be manipulated during the course of existence, the consequences would be innumerable. It is more plausible that the algorithm (or program) is set to run its course to see what happens.
Every so called "scientist" that does not see that the universe is a living thing is just a mechanic. His mind can only process the obvious parts of life before his eyes. Everything is alive. Life does not end at the other side of a cell's membrane. A city is an organism too. There is no isolated system in the universe. It's systems within systems, overlapping each other. God is life itself. Everything in life is connected. We are part of a greater being. Religions are just different languages, they are an attempt to communicate this insight to other humans. With science getting more and more of the picture (macrocosm, microcosm), and people getting educated about it, it will be easier and easier for everyone to understand it. For that:☮️, you have to see this:☯️.
i mean when you really think about it molecules don't create copies of themselves. The materials are already there IE: Carbon Hygrogen etc...The molecules are simply interacting with one another and rearranging the stuff that is already there, into self similar forms.
@@free-de-o.d.c2095 Fair…I guess the word “create” is a bit too vague. I think normally when we think of the word creation we are talking about creating something seemingly from nothing, here I’m clarifying that creation is merely “movin’ stuff around.”
Imagine being so smart that all those ideas you have while you're in the shower, on the crapper, or washing dishes - the silly ideas you don't bother writing down - each one of them would've changed human history had you shared them. Imagine being that smart.
Yes, von Neumann is one of my heroes and he was conceivably the smartest human of the 20th century. Every time I turn around in the work I was doing just before retiring, he was there first.
Woman's feet are the greatest invention of the universe... the curves in their soles, their toes, how they wiggle and spread. This simulation nailed it!
How does that sound? The molecule realizes? The molecule is conscious? It has to be to take a direction that gives a result. How can a molecule have consciousness? Or is it that there is no molecule that has consciousness but that there is only consciousness affecting everything, like the light affects everything
My humble 2 cents: John von Neumann was unequalled intellect in the last and this century. Just look at one of his contributions that Redirected all of ECONOMICS, his Theory of Games & Economic Behavior w/ O. Morgenstern. He was the best of the best. Here’s a couple of favorite quotes: “Young man, in mathematics you don’t understand things. You just get used to them”. “There’s no sense in being precise when you don’t even know what you’re talking about”. God Bless Von Neumann.
This presupposes the existence of conscious information before the existence of a material universe. This pretty much throws the notion that consciousness is an emergent property of the material universe right out the window... 👍
What if the material universe is an emergent property of the consciousness universe ? Many people who have experienced a Near Death Experience (NDE), suggest this reality is the illusion . Buddhism goes there also.
@@rayspencer7255 if we examine the situation closely enough and drop all of our assumptions about what we think it is, this is the only conclusion that seems to have any validity whatsoever 👍
It could be both. A Boltzmann brain pops up from quantum flux eventually with infinite space and time. Then the brain creates a universe which eventually develops consciousness. It is like a turning complete thing inside a Turing complete thing.
@@etzenhammer I suggest that you go look at the video again and then look at the implications of what's being said and then maybe get a little bit deeper into the understanding of conscious observance and its place in experiential reality as well as how the brain interprets and organizes what you're seeing on a moment to moment basis. There are so many unanswered questions not only why are we here but why is there a universe or even better why does the universe seem to exist to us? 👍
Well I like to think that I pioneered the idea of slicing through the ice cream tub with a knife rather than fiddling round trying to scoop it out with a spoon. So there's that.
Perhaps in some ways it's interesting to look at three AI's, working on three different operating systems, but communicating output. If those AI's were called Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow, we could imagine ourselves as humans being the 'Today' AI, processing the outputs from Yesterday and Tomorrow, and the question from Today would be 'Do Yesterday and Tomorrow comminucate abstractly from me, or even exist because I am only seeing their outputs', and it would not be able to know maybe. That is essentially the question of 'God' etc perhaps that we are contemplating as humans maybe in some simplified sense. 🙂
From my quite limited knowledge, I'd say the living cell wall was the greatest thing ever invented. Since luc mountainier replicated jaques benveniste' research (youtube water memory on dna transduction) and ulrike granogger work in "the mathmatics of dna", getting a synthetic cell to mitosis is today's chase. Replaceing natural dna with synthetic dna in a living cell has achieved mitosis, but not in synthetic cell wall. I can't help but think royal raymond rife's reaearch has some keys (again frequencies and vibrations at a molecular or nano level) seems to tie in. Maybe host an expert on this subject.
If you take a step back and view this problem from the size of the universe...it comes built with the rules to create things that create themselves. The next question is: How are universes created?
Something akin to cellular automata. Maybe a fundamental wave mechanical principle of motion that applies to, and is evident in, any and all media on any and all scales. Whatever that might be. Anyway, yeah von Neumann. Very unusually smart guy.
The force that through the green fuse drives the flower Drives my green age; that blasts the roots of trees Is my destroyer. And I am dumb to tell the crooked rose My youth is bent by the same wintry fever. -- Dylan Thomas
Sorry is he saying A and B are the same molecule which then create AB' or A and B are both unique molecules which create AB' because that's not really what lex was saying at the end. More with the first one. A single molecule resulting in a clone isn't quite correct??!
Cronin: How can aTuring machine literally build itself without a Turing machine?🤔 Me: How can aTuring machine be without a Turing machine if it’s a bloody Turing machine?🤫
I see self replication as a subset of the principles of mimetics more generally Molecular competition and cooperation combined with molecular mimetics self generates complexity in dynamic self reinforcing competition and cooperation Thriving out competes just surviving at all levels hence thriving is the default molecular state of life hence cancer is the default way to die
The molecules would not be aware they would be able to or have created a copy of themselves. It would happen mechanistically and extremely fast as chemical reactions are wont to do. Then the entire surface of the planet would be covered in these self-replicated molecules until they ran out of substrate. Of those, some would degenerate, but a few would likely have beneficial mutations that would again extremely rapidly percolate through the goo because there would be no resistance from competitors. Ad iterata and here we are.
but as a musician i see this a bit differently.. if you watch enough cymatics footage you can see cells forming and moving in inert substate.. the form is in the vibration.. it preexists.. the matter settles into the form and coalesces there.. life does not create form it simply highlights and stabilises it.. organic beings are all distinct partials of a fundamental vibration.. which can then interest and create new and more complex harmonics.. n’est pas..?
The image on the thumbnail is of a computer program that simulates evolution isn’t it? Does anyone know the name of it? It’s escaping me right now 🤦♂️
It is possible for a being to recollect the entirety of its consciousness. Not continuously, but at the confluence of a given moment. Eggs may be an physical artifact that grows from "completeness of recollection". An orgasm might be a way to access that experience energetically and pass it on. It is also possible that one's life flashing before eyes eyes upon death allows one to experience and recollect the totality of being. When one reincarnates, one might carry this artifact from a past life as a thought form into a new incarnation. Thus, the interaction with the afterlife is directly involved with reproduction. Basically, memory itself is responsible for reproduction. This may involve the memories of ancestors, one's parents, and their experiences. One passes one's memories to offspring genetically, that creates a parental bond with children. Primitive life forms that reproduced themselves Asexually did so using the function of "totality of memory". This helped to form a copy of themselves, which became living descendants. Early DNA itself is probably a "snapshot" of a being at a moment when it recollected the entirety of its being, coded in amino acids. DNA became a thought form machine, capable of being passed on through successive generations. Later, two beings collaborated with the task of reproduction, each contributing half of the DNA. The miracle of reproduction involves the ability of a creature to recollect itself completely and capture that recollection as a physical form. Since consciousness is larger over time than at one specific moment, consciousness was able to capture its being at a given moment. Consciousness is the only thing that can facilitate reproduction, imagining reproduction without consciousness and memory is a cul-de-sac. Without consciousness, there is no reproduction. Reproduction is most efficient when the memory of the being is in top condition. That is, young and healthy. Beings initially produced asexually when two main conditions were met: sufficient raw materials, and sufficient raw energy. This energy can emanate from qi energy fields outside the body through the process of kundalini and the conduit of chakras. This supplied enough energy and materials for memory to become part of a physical form descendant, with the memory of the parent imprinted upon it. The kundalini process is now present in sexual congress between two humans, helping to access that resonant frame of perception. Using totality of memory as a guide, it should be possible for conscious beings to replicate themselves in large contributing groups of 3, 7, 12 or even 20, given there is a way for the memories to manifest physically as imprinted coded structure that can spontaneously appear or incubate and gestate. Apparently, there is no limit.
..I don't know why some bring up the fact that there high resolution cameras everywhere, but if you would show the a picture on one of those high resolution devices they would still say they need more data, I'm astonished at this cliched reasoning...I'm convinced if a million people witnessed UAP that the other 7 billion would need more data...hahaha
These sorts of people do really exist. I didn’t believe that until I met one. I served aboard the USS Nautilus (SSN-571) for the last four years of its service life. Our C. O. could remember every book he’d ever read. He could read from them page by page. He memorized every technical manual from every piece of equipment on board. He even had the schematics memorized. He demonstrated his talent many times. Pretty amazing.
For one of my university economics classes I had to read this well written book and one night while sitting in a comfy chair I had that flow state feeling as I was reading this book, then all of a sudden, when I flipped the page, an entire 6 line paragraph just jumped into my mind instantly with the deepest comprehension I had ever experienced. I got knocked out of that flow state because the experience was shocking. I've never been able to do it again but I do wonder had I done that when I was a young kid and less jaded if it would have simply become normal and it would have been nothing to read several books a day with total recall and perfect comprehension.
@@oryxsolaris656- Keep trying. If you can figure it out, let me know.
There should be a documentary on that dude.
We had a vice principal that seemingly knew everyone's class schedule, at least for those who cut class regularly. He would walk into the lunchroom...."hey Albert, get to your math class".
Amazing !
(Legit, I'm not being facetious)
A guy from my island can remember every car and motorcycle number plates he has seeing and tell you who drives it
Neumann was an unparalleled genius. Supposedly he could recite any book he read from any starting place even if he read it at 8 and was 50. A scientist asked Fermi what was the big deal about Neumann. Fermi told him Neumann was as far ahead of the great scientists as the great scientists were ahead of the questioner.
Sounds like they were just stroking his ego! No doubt genius but come on that intellectually far ahead of others in his field? Bs he would have deff engineered more than his name.
@@talonprice8718 Look him up on wikipedia. He has a long list of stuff bearing his name. He was a theoretical mathematician, not an engineer or anything practical, yet he could engineer things very well. Look up videos on him on RUclips. IDK why he isn't more well known. He was a terrible driver tho so that's one thing he did not master, but that seems a common trait of several of the foremost scientists.
@@talonprice8718 You need to read more about Von Neumann then. His intellect was astounding. He made multi-generational breakthroughs in every area of science he cared to ponder.
Fermi is the kind of wingman we all need.
@@dannyarcher6370 unrelated but when I was 15 I worked at Papaurphys Pizza and this dude named Fermi used to come in every Tuesday and order a double extra mushroom pizza. Without fail every Tuesday for the entire 2 years I worked there.
My dad every spring time when he gets the karcher water pressure washer out without fail every time says, this is the best invention of human history. He is a simple, humble man ofc and happy 😃
My dad gifted me with "Son, be good to your buckets, and they'll be good to you."
Dads.
I've applied the bucket lesson to just about everything in my life!
..with good taste in pressure washers as well. :)
He has obviously not yet used a whipper snipper. Or chainsaw.
There's a great new biography of John von Neumann called The Man from the Future: The Visionary Life of John von Neumann Hardcover by Ananyo Bhattacharya. It has an extensive discussion of automata and von Neumann's role in their development. It also has a description of all his developments, from computing to quantum physics, to game theory, to nuclear weapons. Man was a beast.
Thank you, i will check that book
This is all very interesting but what really catches my attention is the fact that Lex can do interviews half asleep 😄
Lmao
Hahahaha. Mans picked up a heroin addiction in LA with his new famous friends or nah?
@@briccs3830 Lmfao
Lex @ 15% talking about cellular automation
Cellular automaton is a fascinating idea, especially when you look at it as a possible starting place for consciousness.
Consciousness might equal cellular automata uroboric emergence.
When the global state of a system feeds back to its components, and that state is determined by prehension and dynamically mirrors its environment and other agents operating likewise, you have the extrinsic elements necessary for consciousness.
What created the cellular automata in the first place? Before anything can happen or be created, there must be awareness and the ability to understand. Cellular automata is a product of consciousness/awareness.
@@ClarkPotter you sound like Bruce Lipton
Oh what a thought provoking point. Don't think I would have linked that as the birthplace of conciousness for a long time. Appreciate the comment.
Cellular automation is certainly not the starting place for consciousness. It's beyond the subatomic scale and it's origin may be beyond our comprehension.
the printing press was also pretty good.
I’ve read the work, it’s called the Theory of Self-Reproducing Automata. It’s very difficult/expensive to find a physical copy of the book (though I’ve seen one at the Cleveland Public Library in a special collection you’re not allowed to check out).
There are free (if poorly legible) PDF versions available online.
One small thing, I often get the sense Cronin is talking about subjects that he has only a vaguely familiarity with.
The most fascinating 3:35 second conversation I've heard!!
I have to fit this whole podcast in somewhere!
"Holy shit I can create a copy of myself." Erd, 1 trillion BC
ErdTree
@@gangstaelegantproductions2780 oh shit it all makes sense now
Lex, I am fairly uneducated on this topic, so pardon my likely poorly articulated question…😬
I realize a molecule is not self-aware. However, the functions in these machines are highly complicated and precise in their coordination with other molecules. They seem to have many functions like error correction, invasion detection, self-protection mechanisms, and replication processes. Many of these seem as if they are necessary on an absolute level to be able to replicate initially. I might be missing something here, but would these processes have needed to be functional in the micro seconds after the Big Bang (the circumstances for such an opportunity were present at that precise moment)? Or was there no life possible following the bang and life happens randomly in certain seemingly unique scenarios (seemingly unique, because we obviously have yet to see life outside of our own little plot of land)?
This has been on my mind for a couple weeks… thanks!
So what came first, the chicken or the egg??
You’re asking the greatest question of mankind my friend, I wish Lex knew, but he neither anyone he’s had on are anywhere close to answering this.
Read "A Brief History of Time"
It may help a bit.
Our universe is merely a bin of materials that an external force coordinates and manipulates for its desired effects
@Desert Shadow I disagree. If the universe was to be manipulated during the course of existence, the consequences would be innumerable. It is more plausible that the algorithm (or program) is set to run its course to see what happens.
Every so called "scientist" that does not see that the universe is a living thing is just a mechanic. His mind can only process the obvious parts of life before his eyes.
Everything is alive. Life does not end at the other side of a cell's membrane. A city is an organism too. There is no isolated system in the universe. It's systems within systems, overlapping each other.
God is life itself. Everything in life is connected. We are part of a greater being. Religions are just different languages, they are an attempt to communicate this insight to other humans. With science getting more and more of the picture (macrocosm, microcosm), and people getting educated about it, it will be easier and easier for everyone to understand it.
For that:☮️, you have to see this:☯️.
We are cells inside a larger living organism
I see you also watch rick and morty. Take my upvote!!
Very practical thinking here I see.
Maths is just another language of the universe
A good question to ask all your guests: what’s the best invention for you? 😉
yep, but is it an invention if it doesnt have an inventor?
@@zettelkastendev3760 was the chicken or the egg born first?
@@zettelkastendev3760 he could ask "what's the best discovery" and circumvent the word invention.
@@fackarov9412 , was a self-replicating molecule "invented" or did it just "randomly" over time manifest? I wouldn't call this an invention.
@@georgemargaris I would… people stumble into inventions and breakthroughs in science a lot
My dad was a student and friend of Von at As a grad math student at Stanford , later at RAND corporation
i mean when you really think about it molecules don't create copies of themselves. The materials are already there IE: Carbon Hygrogen etc...The molecules are simply interacting with one another and rearranging the stuff that is already there, into self similar forms.
interacting with one another and rearranging the stuff : into self similar forms....so basically coping themselves :)
@@free-de-o.d.c2095 Fair…I guess the word “create” is a bit too vague. I think normally when we think of the word creation we are talking about creating something seemingly from nothing, here I’m clarifying that
creation is merely “movin’ stuff around.”
Read the Bobiverse series, it is centered around Van Neumann machines. Super fun read.
Lee and Lex talking as if molecules have motive and consciousness.
Imagine being so smart that all those ideas you have while you're in the shower, on the crapper, or washing dishes - the silly ideas you don't bother writing down - each one of them would've changed human history had you shared them. Imagine being that smart.
It’s a burden….I will admit.
If I could create a copy of myself, "holy shit" would be my first words too.
Mine would be, damn food!
That's called having babies
A small tear would fall from my eye because I would have to kill mine. There can only be one.
Yes, von Neumann is one of my heroes and he was conceivably the smartest human of the 20th century. Every time I turn around in the work I was doing just before retiring, he was there first.
Nietzsche is also in the conversation
Einstein?
From about 2:22 Lee Cronin could literally be talking about music form analysis.
"Holy shit, I can create a copy of myself" -First molecule
Rip
Woman's feet are the greatest invention of the universe... the curves in their soles, their toes, how they wiggle and spread. This simulation nailed it!
and the simulation gets extra points when the smell is just right
🤣🤣 you do you dude 🦶😅❤❤
@@beenmicrophone5817 more of a butthole guy butt i hear ya lol
Wtf
So what made the atoms that made the molecules?
How does that sound? The molecule realizes? The molecule is conscious? It has to be to take a direction that gives a result. How can a molecule have consciousness? Or is it that there is no molecule that has consciousness but that there is only consciousness affecting everything, like the light affects everything
Von Neumann invented the washing up sponge with the handle you pour the Fairy liquid in to?
I seriously think the condom is far too often overlooked whenever this topic comes up. That and cheese. I love cheese.
Stanislaw Ulam collaborated with him on cellular automata.
I saw Neumann and I liked
My humble 2 cents:
John von Neumann was unequalled intellect in the last and this century.
Just look at one of his contributions that Redirected all of ECONOMICS, his Theory of Games & Economic Behavior w/ O. Morgenstern.
He was the best of the best.
Here’s a couple of favorite quotes:
“Young man, in mathematics you don’t understand things. You just get used to them”.
“There’s no sense in being precise when you don’t even know what you’re talking about”.
God Bless Von Neumann.
This presupposes the existence of conscious information before the existence of a material universe. This pretty much throws the notion that consciousness is an emergent property of the material universe right out the window... 👍
What if the material universe is an emergent property of the consciousness universe ? Many people who have experienced a Near Death Experience (NDE), suggest this reality is the illusion . Buddhism goes there also.
@@rayspencer7255 if we examine the situation closely enough and drop all of our assumptions about what we think it is, this is the only conclusion that seems to have any validity whatsoever 👍
It could be both. A Boltzmann brain pops up from quantum flux eventually with infinite space and time. Then the brain creates a universe which eventually develops consciousness. It is like a turning complete thing inside a Turing complete thing.
This is not at all related to consciousness. I don't understand your argument, where in this video do you see this claim validated?
@@etzenhammer I suggest that you go look at the video again and then look at the implications of what's being said and then maybe get a little bit deeper into the understanding of conscious observance and its place in experiential reality as well as how the brain interprets and organizes what you're seeing on a moment to moment basis. There are so many unanswered questions not only why are we here but why is there a universe or even better why does the universe seem to exist to us? 👍
While not the greatest inventions ever, i feel like the contact lens and the phillips head screwdriver are under appreciated.
As is air conditioning and the patent system.
Well I like to think that I pioneered the idea of slicing through the ice cream tub with a knife rather than fiddling round trying to scoop it out with a spoon. So there's that.
the last sentence~Is truly an eye opening Driving Fact of our existence
Perhaps in some ways it's interesting to look at three AI's, working on three different operating systems, but communicating output. If those AI's were called Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow, we could imagine ourselves as humans being the 'Today' AI, processing the outputs from Yesterday and Tomorrow, and the question from Today would be 'Do Yesterday and Tomorrow comminucate abstractly from me, or even exist because I am only seeing their outputs', and it would not be able to know maybe. That is essentially the question of 'God' etc perhaps that we are contemplating as humans maybe in some simplified sense. 🙂
funny how String Theory provides the illusion of having enough degrees of freedom to accomplish what cellular automata do with none.
From my quite limited knowledge, I'd say the living cell wall was the greatest thing ever invented. Since luc mountainier replicated jaques benveniste' research (youtube water memory on dna transduction) and ulrike granogger work in "the mathmatics of dna", getting a synthetic cell to mitosis is today's chase. Replaceing natural dna with synthetic dna in a living cell has achieved mitosis, but not in synthetic cell wall. I can't help but think royal raymond rife's reaearch has some keys (again frequencies and vibrations at a molecular or nano level) seems to tie in. Maybe host an expert on this subject.
The thermos is definitely the greatest invention. It keeps got things hot, and cold things cold. How does it know?
(Tongue in cheek!)
@@boxingdonkey maxwell's demon. !-)
The surfboard
Simple: The lathe. Without it very little would of been made.
I read it as latte and thought it was a comment in jest…
Mishra's Self Replicator is my favorite artifact creature! (for those into MtG) :D
If you take a step back and view this problem from the size of the universe...it comes built with the rules to create things that create themselves. The next question is: How are universes created?
They are the expression of creativity itself
The answer is fire 🔥
Something akin to cellular automata. Maybe a fundamental wave mechanical principle of motion that applies to, and is evident in, any and all media on any and all scales. Whatever that might be. Anyway, yeah von Neumann. Very unusually smart guy.
Judging the thumbnail, I thought he was going to say the greatest invention in the universe is a QR code.
Same ... or the crossword puzzle.
LOL
This sincerely gave me a giggle in a good way. Self-aware molecule ftw.
The leaf blower is the GIOAT.
So when do we get the first software which figures out how to copy itself?
50 years ago. Computer viruses.
@@alexseioo610 And it can even mutate a bit every time it copies itself... It's truly virus, it's creature.
Someone should tell Lex what Crystals and Lattice structures are
Ascribing agency to the interactions of random molecules seems a bit of a leap.
Lex. related topic here. Have you ever considered interviewing Tom Campbell author
of My Big TOE. (theory of everthing)
a copy like a fractal? "Self similarity" has both mutations and copies ingrained init
Is it an "invention" if it inevitably arises intrinsic to the rules, structure, and dynamis of the universe?
Yes. It's origin story is still important
Convention is everything.
That title goes to Kernel Sanders
The force that through the green fuse drives the flower
Drives my green age; that blasts the roots of trees
Is my destroyer.
And I am dumb to tell the crooked rose
My youth is bent by the same wintry fever.
-- Dylan Thomas
I like this guy. He's so polite and handsome.
Sorry is he saying A and B are the same molecule which then create AB' or A and B are both unique molecules which create AB' because that's not really what lex was saying at the end. More with the first one. A single molecule resulting in a clone isn't quite correct??!
Cronin: How can aTuring machine literally build itself without a Turing machine?🤔
Me: How can aTuring machine be without a Turing machine if it’s a bloody Turing machine?🤫
Life finds a way
i can't look at Lee now without chuckling about the glowing pickle lol
I see self replication as a subset of the principles of mimetics more generally
Molecular competition and cooperation combined with molecular mimetics
self generates complexity in dynamic self reinforcing competition and cooperation
Thriving out competes just surviving at all levels
hence thriving is the default molecular state of life
hence cancer is the default way to die
What do oreos have to do with computation?
I guess I was wrong, because I guessed tacos
You have my attention
It can self-replicate but before that action it was programmed by someone…
Molecules can "realize" nothing, or are you suggesting existence of will in a particle and thus indicating the existence of soul of things?
Saw the thumbnail thinking it was minesweeper
The entire universe trying to copy itself but then realizing once its conscious, shiiiett now i gotta worry about all those humanyfeelz
Holy shit I can create a copy of myself.
This guy is talking about realization of simple random ancient molecules which is insane. How do molecules think or figure out what works better?
The molecules would not be aware they would be able to or have created a copy of themselves. It would happen mechanistically and extremely fast as chemical reactions are wont to do. Then the entire surface of the planet would be covered in these self-replicated molecules until they ran out of substrate. Of those, some would degenerate, but a few would likely have beneficial mutations that would again extremely rapidly percolate through the goo because there would be no resistance from competitors. Ad iterata and here we are.
I mean the real answer has to be missionary right
Soap. Simple, indispensable .
I see and hear Lex and I want to go sleep 💤, Am I the only one?
Maybe, maybe not.
I’m still confused about the thumbnail
Evolving molecules? Conscousness in matter... And why not?
Sounds like intelligent design
ha something I thought of my self too. but I'm sure many have independently.
but as a musician i see this a bit differently.. if you watch enough cymatics footage you can see cells forming and moving in inert substate.. the form is in the vibration.. it preexists.. the matter settles into the form and coalesces there.. life does not create form it simply highlights and stabilises it.. organic beings are all distinct partials of a fundamental vibration.. which can then interest and create new and more complex harmonics.. n’est pas..?
i guess the point is that chemistry is the wrong starting point..?
Is there a frequency that causes cancerous mutations being radiated on us through technology?
n’est-ce pas@@paulflute
@@ashe9318 curious as to why this no reply has been highlighted..??????
je ne sais pas @@paulflute
Sounds like cyberspace
Wrong! The greatest invention in the history of the universe is beer.
Yes
The greatest invention is the wheel.
Yeah, but you a square
Meanwhile Rogan is talking with Eddie Bravo on how the earth is flat and chemtrails.
Lol always a good time with eddie bravo
Von Neumann machine exists. I have plenty of them in front of the house. Weeds.
Aristotle laughing
Mr. Smith from the Matrix?
The image on the thumbnail is of a computer program that simulates evolution isn’t it? Does anyone know the name of it? It’s escaping me right now 🤦♂️
Game of life ?
@@bossgd100 thank you 🙏
It is possible for a being to recollect the entirety of its consciousness. Not continuously, but at the confluence of a given moment. Eggs may be an physical artifact that grows from "completeness of recollection". An orgasm might be a way to access that experience energetically and pass it on. It is also possible that one's life flashing before eyes eyes upon death allows one to experience and recollect the totality of being. When one reincarnates, one might carry this artifact from a past life as a thought form into a new incarnation. Thus, the interaction with the afterlife is directly involved with reproduction. Basically, memory itself is responsible for reproduction. This may involve the memories of ancestors, one's parents, and their experiences. One passes one's memories to offspring genetically, that creates a parental bond with children. Primitive life forms that reproduced themselves Asexually did so using the function of "totality of memory". This helped to form a copy of themselves, which became living descendants. Early DNA itself is probably a "snapshot" of a being at a moment when it recollected the entirety of its being, coded in amino acids. DNA became a thought form machine, capable of being passed on through successive generations. Later, two beings collaborated with the task of reproduction, each contributing half of the DNA. The miracle of reproduction involves the ability of a creature to recollect itself completely and capture that recollection as a physical form. Since consciousness is larger over time than at one specific moment, consciousness was able to capture its being at a given moment. Consciousness is the only thing that can facilitate reproduction, imagining reproduction without consciousness and memory is a cul-de-sac. Without consciousness, there is no reproduction. Reproduction is most efficient when the memory of the being is in top condition. That is, young and healthy. Beings initially produced asexually when two main conditions were met: sufficient raw materials, and sufficient raw energy. This energy can emanate from qi energy fields outside the body through the process of kundalini and the conduit of chakras. This supplied enough energy and materials for memory to become part of a physical form descendant, with the memory of the parent imprinted upon it. The kundalini process is now present in sexual congress between two humans, helping to access that resonant frame of perception. Using totality of memory as a guide, it should be possible for conscious beings to replicate themselves in large contributing groups of 3, 7, 12 or even 20, given there is a way for the memories to manifest physically as imprinted coded structure that can spontaneously appear or incubate and gestate. Apparently, there is no limit.
..I don't know why some bring up the fact that there high resolution cameras everywhere, but if you would show the a picture on one of those high resolution devices they would still say they need more data, I'm astonished at this cliched reasoning...I'm convinced if a million people witnessed UAP that the other 7 billion would need more data...hahaha
The million who witnessed it would need more data also, hence it being unidentified
@@yanquiufo7113 it could be one standing in front of you and you would need more data, hahah
@@GBuckne hahaha oh man good one
Neumann was a Hungarian Jew…brilliant human.
The greatest invention on Earth is Earth.
Soap (shared opinion with Donnie Darko)
We are legion (we are bob)
What’s crazy is you’re talking about humans. If we’re created by say aliens we are the machine creating copies with mutation 😱
Electricity, internet, airplanes then last but not least bitcoin/blockchain!
Flesh light
Game of Life?
Sham-wow towel
The unactivateded activator....sounds like religion.
Lee is so smart he doesn't know that Von is pronounced as fon
It's correct to pronounce foreign words using the phonetics of the language you are speaking.