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Honestly, I was embarrassed for the ladies the way that match started. Completely boring and not well choreographed at all. Iyo and Tiffany tried to do something but the match was not good. JD was spot on on his comments. 💯
@@MrXabungle @ca3294 💯 the thing is, & it's no disrespect to the women's division, but they are not on the same calibre as the men! Creating all these women's titles is only making it worse.
I mean it was sloppy Nia being complete safe with the chair swings and too safe and Bailey and Naomi still being scared taking the shots were bad I skipped LA knight and Botch Breakker match had stuff to do. Gunther vs Priest was mediocre at the most much better then summerslam. The men's Wargane started slow but heels having the advantage kept it interesting but the last 15-20minutes was great so I did enjoy the men's their are things that could have helped this card one getting rid of the women's warfames for a traditional Survivor Series would have added a little diversity women just can't do every match cause the men do I'm sorry but they struggle lifting tables they can't swing chairs nor take the blows. a Just observation
@@MrXabungleI agree it wasn't the best, but once all 10 ladies got in the ring, I enjoyed it. I will disagree with JD about 1 thing tho. It did have story. Rhea and Liv's feud, Nia and Tiffany's likely backstabbing, Bianca and Bayley's history, Bianca and Iyo's history, Iyo and Bayley's history, and the likely reveal of who attacked Jade being either Naomi or Bayley. That's a ton of stories. WWE just chose not to really capitalize on any of them aside from Rhea and Liv.
@imdikonps4396 the match was too focused on Rhea/Liv feud and Nia should have been the last one from her cage just to decimate everyone including her teammates until Rhea pops out. Could also go with a 1:30 or 2 minute timer per player.
@@punk0101wow imagine that! A real shame he didn't win at WM after winning the RR. He's not interesting no more right now for me, they dragged his character out too long. "I don't speak English" was the last chance to do something with him.
Nakamura needed to look strong..i mean You Don t come back lookin like the ultimate heel darth and then lose..no sir... Nakamura winning gives him a boost with his future career..sorry JD i like LA Knight but this new Nakamura îs championship material
I disagree with JD about LA Knight vs Nakamura. LA Knight losing the title is actually a good story waiting to happen. This is exactly what happened to John Cena back in 2004. He lost the US title to Carlito. Carlito literally made his WWE debut the same night and he won the title from Cena. This helped Cena become more over than he already was. When Cena won his title back, the roof blew off. It was an absolute masterful storytelling. This is what is happening with LA Knight. Just watch, LA Knight will be more over like no other. HHH knows what he is doing. He will never let us down.
I think it's time for Knight to lose the title so that he can go after one of the more prominent ones, he should be on the Road to Wrestlemania with the other main eventers.
@@GoblinKidd-k1y ok sure still dosent explain why nakamura won? The guy literally changed himself to orochimaru and pretty much took the title off im sorry this guy has been dead in wwe right now he was never taken serious before what thinks hes gonna be taken serious now? Should been andrade tbh wwe is not doing anything useful in wwe which is sad hes going through the same aew path out of direction no direction for him smh... Plus 4 months common just 4 month thats a really poor reign for a person like la knight at least keep it for mania...
@@o3zero3 Exactly, either no weapons at all or just have them at ringside, shouldn't be that complicated. That's one small change that would make the match better.
@desmondmcdade4934 Or not have the camera on them til they get in the ring. Damn supposed to be in a hurry to get in the ring to help your teammates not to play hide and seek with Hornswaggle!
@@JonathanThomasEMP Yeah man, I agree. I would honestly be fine with just bringing back the elimination matches & only doing WarGames when it's necessary like Hell in a Cell. They need to make some changes to the way they do the weapons with WarGames, this year made that very clear.
As soon as Tiffany didn’t cash in it was evident that LA Knight was going to lose. Triple H always does a title change at major PLE’s to please the crowd and there was no way Gunther or Bron Brekker were going to lose. LA Knight was the most logical. Triple H created this match just for LA Knight to lose so he could have his major event title change.
Every 10 years since WrestleMania 1 has always been the birth of rising stars. WrestleMania 1: coronation of Hogan and macho man WrestleMania 11: coronation of bret hart and Shawn Michaels WrestleMania 21: coronation of John Cena, Batista, Randy orton and edge. WrestleMania 31: coronation of Seth Rollins and Roman reigns WrestleMania 41 (next year): coronation of Bron breaker, Jacob fatu and LA knight
Mania 11? Michaels Bret happened at mania 12. Mania 11 bret had a terrible I quit match against Bob Backlund & Shawn was facing Diesel for the title & lost. The main event was Lawerence Taylor vs Bam Bam 😂
Macho Man was on the card or even in WWF when the first WrestleMania happen buddy. Plus Mania 11 it was Bret vs Backlund in a terrible I quit match and HBK vs Big Daddy Cool for the title
I agree with JD the women’s war game match was a disaster . Iyo and Tiffy salvaged as much as they could. WWEs women’s division isn’t as deep as they make it up to be, they desperately need a Charlotte and Becky to return on both shows. Too many people in that match were out of their depth and it showed in the performances and the crowd reaction for majority of the match. Some of those NXT signings might need to be called up sooner rather than later.
I agree. I am a big fan of most of the women in the match, but I thought the match sucked. The women's division is deep, but it's a roster full of talented women who are not over. Having Liv Morgan and Tiffany Stratton losing more than they win and Nia just being boring doesn't help. Triple H deserves a lot of praise but a good amount of criticism as well. I am not happy with his booking of the Women's Division ( especially Liv Morgan's title reign) or the tag team division. There are definitely areas of his creative that needs significant improvements.
Lol Nia Jax and liv morgan are literally the worst wrestling duo to be leading women's titles divisions on the 2 shows......just take the title away from both quick 😂😂
Mainly commenting to help JD out..but I do agree with JD..Nakamura is not going anywhere. Anyone that thinks otherwise is completely delusional. Love the new heel theme music, but besides that I don’t think much more is going to change. It’s def the same gimmick we were seeing before his hiatus. If people actually paid attention to Nakamura, they wouldn’t know such details lol! So why are people so hyped? Another thing if they can’t even get someone like LA Knight to have even a good title run then what chance do you think Nakamura has? It’s not happening. It was a mistake to get him involved with Knight off the bat. There’s nothing worse than someone that no sooner returns and is already given a title.
@@7654x I agree but also I think because wwe is so huge right now people are missing a major issue that a lot of the mid card of wwe has been really boring lately, more specifically on the smackdown side because raw actually has some great story lines. If we had something like LA Knight fighting judgement day for example over his title that would be cool, but its just not happening. It sucks because none of that is knight's fault
JD is totally right on the womens War Games. They could of done classic Survivor Series elimination to get to Ripley and Liv. And Im sorry have mens and womens Hell in a Cell on the same night dilutes the match.
Shinsuke’s entrance was great, they made him feel like a big deal which they haven’t always in the past. Hope he gets a solid run until mania worth the belt and not just a quick back and forth. L.A. Knight will be fine.
Tbh in my opinion I don't think war games was needed this year a traditional 5 on 5 would have been good as well. I would have saved war games for when OG bloodline faced off against Seth Kevin Drew and two others. War Games like hell in a cell should be the last resort when two groups need the heated rivalry to end. War Games and Hell in a Cell need to be an end all be all situation
Man I LOVE that Nakamura won. Gave some unpredictability and it IMMEDIATELY put him up there as a serious threat and think about how he won. It was a ddt to a steal beam in a war games ring and a Kenshasa to the back of the head. Maybe in the rematch he wins via mist. Keep him dangerous and LA Knight strong and have him chase. That's what the faces do... Knight can make the company money in the chase too. He has an obstacle to overcome now. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
JD, I'm actually a fan of your work, and I don't agree with everything you say. Honestly, you don't give a shit, fuck I don't give a shit. But I'm a fan because I respect your honesty. The way you predict and tell the truth is rare. I respect you and the level of work ethic you bring. All in all, at the end of the day it's your opinion, and FUCK the haters who say otherwise, all I have to say. Keep doing the great work you bring to prove others wrong, peace.
I was there and as a person who lives close and is a fan I think there were a couple reason why the crowd sucked. 1. Unfortunately, this is a Vancouver issue not a fan issue. EVERY Vancouver crowd for anything isn't the best. 2. Ticket prices were crazy! you couldn't even get into the upper deck for less than $150-200. I know a lot of fans who would usually go but couldn't afford to go. 3. I think because of that, there were so many non fans in attendance and had no idea on when to cheer or how to get involved. I was there for AEW Collision in May and it was half the amount of people but twice as loud. Difference was I paid $40 for the lower bowl and not $200 for the upper deck. Hope this helps!
@ShadowSelf216 while true lol those people probably not shelling out the money for it. Go to any event there, usually pretty quiet. Trips did say talent said it was good but probably just pumping the tires.
I can't wait for next year's Survivor Series when they're going back to it's roots like Survivor Series elimination tag match or Brand warfare. Like last time.. AGAIN.
Tbh I think maybe alternating between that and Wargames every year or at least every other year would probably be best. Cuz too much of the same thing every year could get exhausting to the audience and become repetitive
Thank you for not holding back on that Women's WarGames Match JD. It was absolutely dreadful. Sloppy, Botchy, no psychology, terrible looking strikes from everybody, and a stupid idea to let the babyfaces have the advantage to begin with. The match didn't need to happen, and it was a BAD way to start the show.
I think they pulled the Cargill injury angle to pull her out the womens match because she would have been made to look a super fool in it. Too much for her to remember.The timing and botches of spots were off the charts
Nakamura, after turning heel, got fed to Rollins in a storyline that he had no business losing. He reinvents himself again and people thought he wasn't supposed to win? He kinda had to win here in order to be taken seriously. I'm a much bigger LA Knight fan but Shinsuke deserved it here.
This SS was awesome 8.5/10.... enjoyed every bit of it. Especially Nakamura winning is a good thing. You gonna have him do all that to knight and NOT win? To be honest, knight wrestling the same people as champ was boring, now he's gotta chance it now....Not really into knight feuds but I'm looking forward to him and Nakamura.
Yeah!! It's ran it's course. Same promo. He gets on and say he's gonna do this with everyone saying L a bore! I dunno if it's wwe making him so meh on the mic or what
I agree it was a little underwhelming. I thought they should have started or ad advanced some kind of storyline with punk or roman. But Can’t have a monumental surprise every ppv.
JD- to see Nia Jax grab a steelchair & go like, what do I have here..."uugh 😩...uuuggh 😫..uuuuggghh 🥱" 🤣😂🤣😂 FACTS dude! selling a women's War Games match like this...I wanna refund WITH receipt! 💯
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why Iyo Sky is a babyface now? I know that's the least of our worries with the Women's War Games match, but PLEASE? Also, tell me how Bianca Belair is going to bury the hatchet with Bayley, after everything Bayley did to her, after just a couple of weeks and Bayley assisting her against Nia Jax that one time?
17,000 quiet. It shows that wwe are drawing casual people that don't care much about the product. They are just there because it's Saturday and it gives them a chance to get out the show, they aren't invested in wrestlers.
The women's wargames matches are the same every year. The men's wargames matches have story, but I wish they would use the cage a bit more along with some more violence. The triple threat match was good, but the whc match ended just as the action was picking up. However, the one thing that confuses me is when a crowd is silent for 3/4 of a match and a "this is awesome" chant suddenly starts. Even though some may disagree, I believe WWE should have a match which makes people jump out of their seats like an Ospreay match or an older NXT match. People may be confused with the crowd reaction, but due to Canada and the US being major pro wrestling cities, this type of match would be beneficial unlike in an international crowd where half the time, I don't know if they're paying attention to the match or just begging WWE to return to their country.
Yeah i never got the hype about the war games matches to begin with tbh the match itself its fine but its gets easily overhyped for no reason and today was def the reason why people overhype and overate war games matches blood and guts from aew its way better concept in my opinion. Yeah i prefer the tradicional 5 on 5 tag team matches then this tbh. It literally defines survivor series itself and this wasnt it. This was triple h shoving nxt crap on major ppv.
Thought it was a solid PLE. Really enjoyed The Men’s Wargames, the IC title match, and Gunther vs Priest. Nakamura and Knight was decent but not gonna lie I was happy for Shinsuke because he’s been nothing but a loser for awhile now and it’s good to see him win. BUT that Women’s Wargames match was atrocious. Nia Jax is absolutely terrible, she could’ve been swinging a pillow in that match and it would’ve had the same effect as those sorry excuse for chair shots. Absolutely embarrassing
Wouldn't the business of Professional Wrestling be a beter place if Tony Khan & Shahid Khan left Pro Wrestling, AEW went out of business, and Endeavor TKO's World Wrestling Entertainment controlled the business? Jim Cornette & Brian Last, Eric Bischoff, JD From NY and Ango all sound so stress-free reviewing the WWE (Raw, Smackdown and NXT) and ONLY the W. W. E!!!!! Billy Corgan's National Wrestling Alliance (NWA), Anthem Sports and Entertainment's Total Nonstop Action (TNA) Wrestling, Court Bauer's Major League Wrestling (MLW), and all these other indy promotions on either shoestring budget or operated by incompetence are all so below the gold standard, which is the one and only Professional Wrestling promotion, the WWE.
I agreed with the women's Wargames match. It was the worst ever and a disaster. Raquel Rodriguez looked like she can't find a weapon underneath the ring that you can see she was asking the referee where's it at. Nia Jax chairshots was so horrible. It seemed as if the women in that match don't know their cue, like there's too many miscommunication. I didn't care for the Nakamura vs LA Knight match. It seemed as WWE back themselves in a corner. If they booked Nakamura to lose with his new embolished character, it's over for him. LA Knight didn't offer nothing as US champion. He's not even a great wrestler. It was time to move on to someone else to hold the title. It was the right decision to put the US title on Nakamura, but he's going to flop with it. I can't see him defending his title in future PLE's.
Iyo and Tiffany were the MVPS of the Women's WG match. My other question is. What the fuck are they waiting for to have Tiffany Cash that god damm thing in.. my guess is they're hanging on till Charlotte eventually returns 2: JD. you know why nia kicked off the match and I'll say it over and over and over and over and again. The Major advantage Nia has and why she is champion is because she's not only related to but with The rock as a member of the TKO BOD and you'll know dwayne will do whatever he can in any way to feed his entire family. Especially if your a 🇼🇸🇼🇸🇼🇸🇼🇸 3: i was not expecting Shinsuke to win. He hasn't been the same ever since that Jinder loss. But GG i guess Lastly. Oh damm i thought the rock was going to show up. Seth ambushes punk or Either Paul or Punk attack roman from behind. Oh well..
I thought the show was good. The woman’s match was pretty bad until the ladder half, Shin winning was shocking and really cool, IC match banger, Gunther vs Priest was great, and men’s war games was great too. Only thing is I wish they’d add more brutality into the war games match, there should be more chaos going on. The matches are great but it can definitely be better.
I was not a fan of the highly predictable spot where Tiffany and Iyo jump off the cage. It’s so obvious when the women gather around to break their fall. especially when the second ring was empty.
JD what up! Been watching for a hot minute , but to get to the point 100% agree w the overall take. The spark was not there .. like at all.. felt like i wasn’t watching a survivor series in a way. However , the triple threat was great Sheamus loves to take a bump & Priest V Gunther II was good as well. There was a *few* good spots in the women’s match .. the flow was WAY OFF for the women’s and they all looked idk weirdly botchy and scared to do things (sorry if i worded that wrong)
I completely agree with jd on women’s war games match I thought better route would had been have a 5 vs 5 elimination match each elimination has a story for current and future months in the making with stare downs and tension. Nia Jax looked like went to the gym blow up on arm day she was struggling pick up the chairs after 1st swing I was hoping she never wing again
I appreciate your honest not caring what poeple think I like women's war games match enjoy it Nia Jax is fine chair hits were bad no story in match agree and Survior series was great enjoy it
The woman's war games Match was not that impressive but the men's war games match was very good as I expected this year survivor series was a decent show but I am looking forward to Saturday night's main event and I cannot wait for Monday night raw to make it's debut on Netflix.☺️
My Top 3 favorite matches was Bron vs Sheamus Then the og bloodline vs new bloodline and Priest vs Gunther in that order the other 2 match was decent! As for The women's wargames match it didn't really pick up until after IYO AND TIFFANY got in there. And tbh IYO AND TIFFANY were the MVP'S OF THE MATCH
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The last three matches saved the entire show for me and Nakamura winning which was a decision that I'm completely okay with They missed the opportunity to have Tiffy cash in last night I don't know why they didn't pull the trigger.
I haven't watched the review yet as I write this. So I'm just going to say this about Survivor Series. I felt it was very underwhelming the crowd sucked for the most part. And in my personal opinion The Intercontinental Championship match and Men's WarGames match was the Great. With all due respect i love Nakamura but he shouldn't have won the title. He just came back and there was barely any build. And I don't know what it is about Priest and Gunther I just didn't like that match. I enjoyed there Summerslam match more because I was there. Who knows maybe it's just me. The Woman's WarGames didn't need to be a WarGames match but whatever it sucked. So anyway let's get into your review JD. God bless ya for putting up with that crowd.
That women’s war games match was atrocious. Should’ve done a war games match with the NXT women’s roster instead cause honestly that shit sucked. The only thing I enjoyed was that Iyo Sky and Tiffany Stratton spot. That was it.
Im just glad that WWE see that LA Knight is just mid through it all.Im very excited to see how this Nakamura story plays out thats if they have one.Hopefully this leads to one.
Vancouverite here, just wanted to add a thing or two. Almost everyone I know that watches wrestling out here didn’t go to this show, tix were wayyyy too expensive, the card wasn’t great and WWE doesn’t have the best rep around here. For years we’ve been skipped over for shows and when we do get them it feels like WWE and UFC just mail it in.
I felt the same about womens war games. Slapped together haphazardly with only Rhea v Liv the focal point. Those Nia chair shots are the worst I've ever seen. Worse than Brisco on Austin in SS 98
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Honestly, I was embarrassed for the ladies the way that match started. Completely boring and not well choreographed at all. Iyo and Tiffany tried to do something but the match was not good. JD was spot on on his comments. 💯
It was way too sloppy. While Iyo and Tiffany pushed themselves, everyone did gimmicky spots til Rhea made the pin.
@@MrXabungle @ca3294 💯 the thing is, & it's no disrespect to the women's division, but they are not on the same calibre as the men! Creating all these women's titles is only making it worse.
I mean it was sloppy Nia being complete safe with the chair swings and too safe and Bailey and Naomi still being scared taking the shots were bad I skipped LA knight and Botch Breakker match had stuff to do. Gunther vs Priest was mediocre at the most much better then summerslam. The men's Wargane started slow but heels having the advantage kept it interesting but the last 15-20minutes was great so I did enjoy the men's their are things that could have helped this card one getting rid of the women's warfames for a traditional Survivor Series would have added a little diversity women just can't do every match cause the men do I'm sorry but they struggle lifting tables they can't swing chairs nor take the blows. a Just observation
@@MrXabungleI agree it wasn't the best, but once all 10 ladies got in the ring, I enjoyed it. I will disagree with JD about 1 thing tho. It did have story. Rhea and Liv's feud, Nia and Tiffany's likely backstabbing, Bianca and Bayley's history, Bianca and Iyo's history, Iyo and Bayley's history, and the likely reveal of who attacked Jade being either Naomi or Bayley. That's a ton of stories. WWE just chose not to really capitalize on any of them aside from Rhea and Liv.
@imdikonps4396 the match was too focused on Rhea/Liv feud and Nia should have been the last one from her cage just to decimate everyone including her teammates until Rhea pops out. Could also go with a 1:30 or 2 minute timer per player.
Nakamura winning the title now is exactly what was needed to relaunch interest in his character.
Fun fact: This is Nakamura's first 1v1 VICTORY on PLE since getting called up to the main roster.
@@punk0101wow imagine that! A real shame he didn't win at WM after winning the RR. He's not interesting no more right now for me, they dragged his character out too long. "I don't speak English" was the last chance to do something with him.
@@7654x 🖕Vince McMahon for derailing Shinsuke Nakamura.
@@FallingCyrax when he botched that move and dropped John Cena on his head and almost took out the golden goose his run at the top was over.
Nakamura needed to look strong..i mean You Don t come back lookin like the ultimate heel darth and then lose..no sir... Nakamura winning gives him a boost with his future career..sorry JD i like LA Knight but this new Nakamura îs championship material
I disagree with JD about LA Knight vs Nakamura. LA Knight losing the title is actually a good story waiting to happen. This is exactly what happened to John Cena back in 2004. He lost the US title to Carlito. Carlito literally made his WWE debut the same night and he won the title from Cena. This helped Cena become more over than he already was. When Cena won his title back, the roof blew off. It was an absolute masterful storytelling. This is what is happening with LA Knight. Just watch, LA Knight will be more over like no other. HHH knows what he is doing. He will never let us down.
I think it's time for Knight to lose the title so that he can go after one of the more prominent ones, he should be on the Road to Wrestlemania with the other main eventers.
I mean LA knight is already extremely over tho
He's done with us title
@@GoblinKidd-k1y ok sure still dosent explain why nakamura won? The guy literally changed himself to orochimaru and pretty much took the title off im sorry this guy has been dead in wwe right now he was never taken serious before what thinks hes gonna be taken serious now? Should been andrade tbh wwe is not doing anything useful in wwe which is sad hes going through the same aew path out of direction no direction for him smh...
Plus 4 months common just 4 month thats a really poor reign for a person like la knight at least keep it for mania...
LA Knight is mid
It appeared to me that someone misplaced the weapons under the ring, and the ladies couldn't find them, killing the speed and timing in the match.
@@o3zero3 yea there was a lil too much of that, just get in the ring & brawl already!
@@o3zero3 Exactly, either no weapons at all or just have them at ringside, shouldn't be that complicated. That's one small change that would make the match better.
@desmondmcdade4934 Or not have the camera on them til they get in the ring. Damn supposed to be in a hurry to get in the ring to help your teammates not to play hide and seek with Hornswaggle!
@@JonathanThomasEMP Yeah man, I agree. I would honestly be fine with just bringing back the elimination matches & only doing WarGames when it's necessary like Hell in a Cell. They need to make some changes to the way they do the weapons with WarGames, this year made that very clear.
@desmondmcdade4934 Seemed like Liv was the only smart one. Screw the ring just store it behind the curtain!
Punk joining that match created several new stories for 2025. I like how that PLE wasn't 5-7 hours long like last weekend lol
As soon as Tiffany didn’t cash in it was evident that LA Knight was going to lose. Triple H always does a title change at major PLE’s to please the crowd and there was no way Gunther or Bron Brekker were going to lose. LA Knight was the most logical. Triple H created this match just for LA Knight to lose so he could have his major event title change.
Every 10 years since WrestleMania 1 has always been the birth of rising stars.
WrestleMania 1: coronation of Hogan and macho man
WrestleMania 11: coronation of bret hart and Shawn Michaels
WrestleMania 21: coronation of John Cena, Batista, Randy orton and edge.
WrestleMania 31: coronation of Seth Rollins and Roman reigns
WrestleMania 41 (next year): coronation of Bron breaker, Jacob fatu and LA knight
Mania 11? Michaels Bret happened at mania 12. Mania 11 bret had a terrible I quit match against Bob Backlund & Shawn was facing Diesel for the title & lost. The main event was Lawerence Taylor vs Bam Bam 😂
Macho Man was on the card or even in WWF when the first WrestleMania happen buddy. Plus Mania 11 it was Bret vs Backlund in a terrible I quit match and HBK vs Big Daddy Cool for the title
Idk what was worst the dead crowd or that women's match😂
Bro what are you talking about 😂😂😂 if the crowd is dead.. get off your ass start jumping up make noises
The women's match wins the only thing it should have been featured for, which is the worst match on Survivor Series 2024.
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I agree with JD the women’s war game match was a disaster . Iyo and Tiffy salvaged as much as they could. WWEs women’s division isn’t as deep as they make it up to be, they desperately need a Charlotte and Becky to return on both shows. Too many people in that match were out of their depth and it showed in the performances and the crowd reaction for majority of the match. Some of those NXT signings might need to be called up sooner rather than later.
I agree. I am a big fan of most of the women in the match, but I thought the match sucked. The women's division is deep, but it's a roster full of talented women who are not over. Having Liv Morgan and Tiffany Stratton losing more than they win and Nia just being boring doesn't help. Triple H deserves a lot of praise but a good amount of criticism as well. I am not happy with his booking of the Women's Division ( especially Liv Morgan's title reign) or the tag team division. There are definitely areas of his creative that needs significant improvements.
Yeah. The women’s division isn’t that deep, but they’ll be fine once they start calling some of the girls up from NXT.
Lol Nia Jax and liv morgan are literally the worst wrestling duo to be leading women's titles divisions on the 2 shows......just take the title away from both quick 😂😂
@@davidjames6036 I really like Liv Morgan, but the booking of her title reign has not been good.
Funniest part of the show was when Nia Jax was swinging the chair at Naomi and Naomi misread the incoming chair shot and Niax Jax says "No B!tch" 😂😂😂
@DTey22 I thought I was the only one who noticed that lol 😂 wild
Nia Jax and toilet seat sums it all about her inside Wargames...
As for her with these painful chair shots... Hulk Hogan says hello. 💀
What do we expect this is the same Nia Jax who fell on her fat ass and said on TV my hole😂😂😂😂
Mainly commenting to help JD out..but I do agree with JD..Nakamura is not going anywhere. Anyone that thinks otherwise is completely delusional. Love the new heel theme music, but besides that I don’t think much more is going to change. It’s def the same gimmick we were seeing before his hiatus. If people actually paid attention to Nakamura, they wouldn’t know such details lol! So why are people so hyped? Another thing if they can’t even get someone like LA Knight to have even a good title run then what chance do you think Nakamura has? It’s not happening. It was a mistake to get him involved with Knight off the bat. There’s nothing worse than someone that no sooner returns and is already given a title.
That women's war game match almost put me to sleep due to how boring it was. That should've been the traditional 5 v 5
The first real challenge Knight gets, he loses.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 he needed that belt or the IC belt a yr ago when he was hot.
He's a loser who stumbles over his words, stumbles in the ring, and drops the belt before entering the ring tonight... 🤡
@@7654x I agree but also I think because wwe is so huge right now people are missing a major issue that a lot of the mid card of wwe has been really boring lately, more specifically on the smackdown side because raw actually has some great story lines. If we had something like LA Knight fighting judgement day for example over his title that would be cool, but its just not happening. It sucks because none of that is knight's fault
@@Absinthexx7 it's their fault. HHH hates LA Knight
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Dude you're out to lunch.
JD is totally right on the womens War Games. They could of done classic Survivor Series elimination to get to Ripley and Liv. And Im sorry have mens and womens Hell in a Cell on the same night dilutes the match.
Nia Jax needs to lose the belt. Shes a crappy champion.
I was on the hard cam side trying to start chants constantly but it rarely started anything
Shinsuke’s entrance was great, they made him feel like a big deal which they haven’t always in the past. Hope he gets a solid run until mania worth the belt and not just a quick back and forth. L.A. Knight will be fine.
Tbh in my opinion I don't think war games was needed this year a traditional 5 on 5 would have been good as well. I would have saved war games for when OG bloodline faced off against Seth Kevin Drew and two others. War Games like hell in a cell should be the last resort when two groups need the heated rivalry to end. War Games and Hell in a Cell need to be an end all be all situation
When punk went straight to the back I was expecting him to get tossed back out but nope. The back just said get tf back out there and pose
Tonight was a W show outside the Womens WARGAMES, My opinion!
Rock was never going to be there on the opening weekend of Moana!!
Man I LOVE that Nakamura won. Gave some unpredictability and it IMMEDIATELY put him up there as a serious threat and think about how he won. It was a ddt to a steal beam in a war games ring and a Kenshasa to the back of the head. Maybe in the rematch he wins via mist. Keep him dangerous and LA Knight strong and have him chase. That's what the faces do... Knight can make the company money in the chase too. He has an obstacle to overcome now. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Been saying for weeks, Kaiser will beat Bron for IC title and Sheamus will beat Kaiser at WM
Nakamura can have a semi solid title reign and head into Mania that way LA Knight don't have to be pinned when Carmelo or Andrade wins.
I felt the same for the woman's War Games, garbage. Now imagine Jade Cargill in this it would be 10x worse than the one we have
One thing I always love about JD is that he keeps it real. No fake reactions. No kissing any talents ass.
JD, I'm actually a fan of your work, and I don't agree with everything you say. Honestly, you don't give a shit, fuck I don't give a shit. But I'm a fan because I respect your honesty. The way you predict and tell the truth is rare. I respect you and the level of work ethic you bring. All in all, at the end of the day it's your opinion, and FUCK the haters who say otherwise, all I have to say. Keep doing the great work you bring to prove others wrong, peace.
@@Cinquan get off your knees and wipe ya chin.
I was there and as a person who lives close and is a fan I think there were a couple reason why the crowd sucked.
1. Unfortunately, this is a Vancouver issue not a fan issue. EVERY Vancouver crowd for anything isn't the best.
2. Ticket prices were crazy! you couldn't even get into the upper deck for less than $150-200. I know a lot of fans who would usually go but couldn't afford to go.
3. I think because of that, there were so many non fans in attendance and had no idea on when to cheer or how to get involved.
I was there for AEW Collision in May and it was half the amount of people but twice as loud. Difference was I paid $40 for the lower bowl and not $200 for the upper deck.
Hope this helps!
I always thought it is because a lot of them are stoned out of their mind 😂
@ShadowSelf216 while true lol those people probably not shelling out the money for it. Go to any event there, usually pretty quiet. Trips did say talent said it was good but probably just pumping the tires.
Jd as always speaking the truth
Hopefully next year Survivor Series goes back to having some Traditional Elimination Matches. Make War Games its own PLE.
@@kevinlee9929 💯
I can't wait for next year's Survivor Series when they're going back to it's roots like Survivor Series elimination tag match or Brand warfare. Like last time.. AGAIN.
Tbh I think maybe alternating between that and Wargames every year or at least every other year would probably be best. Cuz too much of the same thing every year could get exhausting to the audience and become repetitive
WWE is just half Assing until January 6th for Netflix
wrestling in general dose half hass there shows in winter months.
Why u say that? Survivor series was great besides the women’s match
Thank you for not holding back on that Women's WarGames Match JD. It was absolutely dreadful. Sloppy, Botchy, no psychology, terrible looking strikes from everybody, and a stupid idea to let the babyfaces have the advantage to begin with. The match didn't need to happen, and it was a BAD way to start the show.
Favourite Survivor Series moment roman & Cm punk handshake 🤝
JD IN THE ALGORITHM THATS A GOOD DEAL THATS A GOOD TAG TEAM RIGHT THERE
I want more elimination matches again
The women’s War Games was a spot fest. That was predictable
I think they pulled the Cargill injury angle to pull her out the womens match because she would have been made to look a super fool in it. Too much for her to remember.The timing and botches of spots were off the charts
Bron Breakker for MITB 2025
Imagine if Brock put Bron over
Not to defend Nia’s performance, because it was awful, I wonder how gassed she was being in the whole match.
Nakamura, after turning heel, got fed to Rollins in a storyline that he had no business losing. He reinvents himself again and people thought he wasn't supposed to win? He kinda had to win here in order to be taken seriously.
I'm a much bigger LA Knight fan but Shinsuke deserved it here.
Agreed.
This SS was awesome 8.5/10.... enjoyed every bit of it. Especially Nakamura winning is a good thing. You gonna have him do all that to knight and NOT win? To be honest, knight wrestling the same people as champ was boring, now he's gotta chance it now....Not really into knight feuds but I'm looking forward to him and Nakamura.
i don't really blame the crowd i don't like La knight either i find his johnny bravo stick kind of boring
Johnny bravo stick😂😂😂
I’m not a fan as well 😂
I like LA Knight but I am glad that Nakamura won. I am honestly liking his new gimmick 😂😂
Yeah!! It's ran it's course. Same promo. He gets on and say he's gonna do this with everyone saying L a bore! I dunno if it's wwe making him so meh on the mic or what
Knight reminds me of Jason Sudeikis who i think is a fucking tool
I agree it was a little underwhelming. I thought they should have started or ad advanced some kind of storyline with punk or roman. But Can’t have a monumental surprise every ppv.
Nakamara winning u.s title is paying him back for getting Rhodes and others over in last year.
JD- to see Nia Jax grab a steelchair & go like, what do I have here..."uugh 😩...uuuggh 😫..uuuuggghh 🥱" 🤣😂🤣😂 FACTS dude! selling a women's War Games match like this...I wanna refund WITH receipt! 💯
Can someone PLEASE explain to me why Iyo Sky is a babyface now? I know that's the least of our worries with the Women's War Games match, but PLEASE? Also, tell me how Bianca Belair is going to bury the hatchet with Bayley, after everything Bayley did to her, after just a couple of weeks and Bayley assisting her against Nia Jax that one time?
17,000 quiet. It shows that wwe are drawing casual people that don't care much about the product. They are just there because it's Saturday and it gives them a chance to get out the show, they aren't invested in wrestlers.
@@adriajones4044 I would say this is very true. A lot of people I saw there didn't have a clue about much of anything lol
Women's match should have been the classic SS elimination tag
The women's wargames matches are the same every year. The men's wargames matches have story, but I wish they would use the cage a bit more along with some more violence. The triple threat match was good, but the whc match ended just as the action was picking up. However, the one thing that confuses me is when a crowd is silent for 3/4 of a match and a "this is awesome" chant suddenly starts. Even though some may disagree, I believe WWE should have a match which makes people jump out of their seats like an Ospreay match or an older NXT match. People may be confused with the crowd reaction, but due to Canada and the US being major pro wrestling cities, this type of match would be beneficial unlike in an international crowd where half the time, I don't know if they're paying attention to the match or just begging WWE to return to their country.
The women didn’t need that war games match
New entrant, grab weapon, repeat.
I miss traditional survivor series matches.
Yeah i never got the hype about the war games matches to begin with tbh the match itself its fine but its gets easily overhyped for no reason and today was def the reason why people overhype and overate war games matches blood and guts from aew its way better concept in my opinion. Yeah i prefer the tradicional 5 on 5 tag team matches then this tbh. It literally defines survivor series itself and this wasnt it. This was triple h shoving nxt crap on major ppv.
Same. Make War Games it's own PLE. Bring back Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Matches.
Thought it was a solid PLE. Really enjoyed The Men’s Wargames, the IC title match, and Gunther vs Priest. Nakamura and Knight was decent but not gonna lie I was happy for Shinsuke because he’s been nothing but a loser for awhile now and it’s good to see him win. BUT that Women’s Wargames match was atrocious. Nia Jax is absolutely terrible, she could’ve been swinging a pillow in that match and it would’ve had the same effect as those sorry excuse for chair shots. Absolutely embarrassing
I love JD's rands
Wouldn't the business of Professional Wrestling be a beter place if Tony Khan & Shahid Khan left Pro Wrestling, AEW went out of business, and Endeavor TKO's World Wrestling Entertainment controlled the business?
Jim Cornette & Brian Last, Eric Bischoff, JD From NY and Ango all sound so stress-free reviewing the WWE (Raw, Smackdown and NXT) and ONLY the W. W. E!!!!!
Billy Corgan's National Wrestling Alliance (NWA), Anthem Sports and Entertainment's Total Nonstop Action (TNA) Wrestling, Court Bauer's Major League Wrestling (MLW), and all these other indy promotions on either shoestring budget or operated by incompetence are all so below the gold standard, which is the one and only Professional Wrestling promotion, the WWE.
Getting the belt off of Knight was the smart move.. Knight is so over that people were TURNING on Carmelo and Andrade..
this show missed Kevin drew Cody randy Seth those are big big names
Sheamus VS Bronson Reed for the IC title would be 🔥🔥 and it would prove not every big moment has to happen at Wrestlemania!! I like it
I agreed with the women's Wargames match. It was the worst ever and a disaster. Raquel Rodriguez looked like she can't find a weapon underneath the ring that you can see she was asking the referee where's it at. Nia Jax chairshots was so horrible. It seemed as if the women in that match don't know their cue, like there's too many miscommunication.
I didn't care for the Nakamura vs LA Knight match. It seemed as WWE back themselves in a corner. If they booked Nakamura to lose with his new embolished character, it's over for him. LA Knight didn't offer nothing as US champion. He's not even a great wrestler. It was time to move on to someone else to hold the title. It was the right decision to put the US title on Nakamura, but he's going to flop with it. I can't see him defending his title in future PLE's.
Iyo and Tiffany were the MVPS of the Women's WG match. My other question is. What the fuck are they waiting for to have Tiffany Cash that god damm thing in.. my guess is they're hanging on till Charlotte eventually returns
2: JD. you know why nia kicked off the match and I'll say it over and over and over and over and again. The Major advantage Nia has and why she is champion is because she's not only related to but with The rock as a member of the TKO BOD and you'll know dwayne will do whatever he can in any way to feed his entire family. Especially if your a 🇼🇸🇼🇸🇼🇸🇼🇸
3: i was not expecting Shinsuke to win. He hasn't been the same ever since that Jinder loss. But GG i guess
Lastly. Oh damm i thought the rock was going to show up. Seth ambushes punk or Either Paul or Punk attack roman from behind.
Oh well..
Great show
I thought the show was good. The woman’s match was pretty bad until the ladder half, Shin winning was shocking and really cool, IC match banger, Gunther vs Priest was great, and men’s war games was great too. Only thing is I wish they’d add more brutality into the war games match, there should be more chaos going on. The matches are great but it can definitely be better.
Melo don't miss
Bron don't brick
You know its a bad show when JDs clappin his hands like a world star video
JD Speaking Facts
Story is King i agree 100 percent
You are Spot On. My man. The show fell flat. Period.
I was not a fan of the highly predictable spot where Tiffany and Iyo jump off the cage. It’s so obvious when the women gather around to break their fall. especially when the second ring was empty.
JD what up! Been watching for a hot minute , but to get to the point 100% agree w the overall take. The spark was not there .. like at all.. felt like i wasn’t watching a survivor series in a way. However , the triple threat was great Sheamus loves to take a bump & Priest V Gunther II was good as well. There was a *few* good spots in the women’s match ..
the flow was WAY OFF for the women’s and they all looked idk weirdly botchy and scared to do things (sorry if i worded that wrong)
#OTS4Life
That Nia Jax's impersonation😂
I completely agree with jd on women’s war games match I thought better route would had been have a 5 vs 5 elimination match each elimination has a story for current and future months in the making with stare downs and tension. Nia Jax looked like went to the gym blow up on arm day she was struggling pick up the chairs after 1st swing I was hoping she never wing again
I appreciate your honest not caring what poeple think I like women's war games match enjoy it Nia Jax is fine chair hits were bad no story in match agree and Survior series was great enjoy it
The woman's war games Match was not that impressive but the men's war games match was very good as I expected this year survivor series was a decent show but I am looking forward to Saturday night's main event and I cannot wait for Monday night raw to make it's debut on Netflix.☺️
My Top 3 favorite matches was Bron vs Sheamus Then the og bloodline vs new bloodline and Priest vs Gunther in that order the other 2 match was decent!
As for The women's wargames match it didn't really pick up until after IYO AND TIFFANY got in there. And tbh IYO AND TIFFANY were the MVP'S OF THE MATCH
For shows I’ve been to this is how I rank them
#6: Stomping Grounds
#5: WrestleDream 2024
#4: Summerslam 2019
#3: Survivor Series 2024
#2: NXT Takeover Toronto 2019
#1: All In 2024
Women’s match was embarrassing. I am trying to like Raquel but the lady has no aura 🙃
She is horrible
JD’s rants have been on point lately.
The last three matches saved the entire show for me and Nakamura winning which was a decision that I'm completely okay with They missed the opportunity to have Tiffy cash in last night I don't know why they didn't pull the trigger.
I haven't watched the review yet as I write this. So I'm just going to say this about Survivor Series. I felt it was very underwhelming the crowd sucked for the most part. And in my personal opinion The Intercontinental Championship match and Men's WarGames match was the Great. With all due respect i love Nakamura but he shouldn't have won the title. He just came back and there was barely any build. And I don't know what it is about Priest and Gunther I just didn't like that match. I enjoyed there Summerslam match more because I was there. Who knows maybe it's just me. The Woman's WarGames didn't need to be a WarGames match but whatever it sucked. So anyway let's get into your review JD. God bless ya for putting up with that crowd.
SS was a disappoinment other than the mens Wargames. It didnt feel like a big 4 PLE. I agree WWE should consider going back to elimination matches.
Women's war games match was terrible
Good stream tonight bro. Keep up the good work!
That women’s war games match was atrocious. Should’ve done a war games match with the NXT women’s roster instead cause honestly that shit sucked. The only thing I enjoyed was that Iyo Sky and Tiffany Stratton spot. That was it.
Im just glad that WWE see that LA Knight is just mid through it all.Im very excited to see how this Nakamura story plays out thats if they have one.Hopefully this leads to one.
I think they are saving a big angle for the RAW premiere on Netflix
I really don’t like war games I’d prefer traditional survivor series matches
Vancouverite here, just wanted to add a thing or two.
Almost everyone I know that watches wrestling out here didn’t go to this show, tix were wayyyy too expensive, the card wasn’t great and WWE doesn’t have the best rep around here. For years we’ve been skipped over for shows and when we do get them it feels like WWE and UFC just mail it in.
Idk if it's because the rock is the president of WWE but Nia needs to drop that belt. Also I'm over Tiffany cashing in. It's played out lol
I felt the same about womens war games. Slapped together haphazardly with only Rhea v Liv the focal point. Those Nia chair shots are the worst I've ever seen. Worse than Brisco on Austin in SS 98
Each match scored out of 10:
Women's WG: 5
US Title: 7
IC Title: 9
WHC: 7.5
Men's WG: 8.5
Killing it JD. Longtime fan. You da man bro. Go Atl!!!
“No saying elbow” in A war games match . Everybody knows the rules.
Bro I'm not kidding when I say that I gave the Woman's war games match a - 0 star
Why did both baby face teams have to win … why was Reed in the match if Seth wasn’t going to take him out😂
I agree the IC CHAMPIONSHIP Match is the Match of the Night