They never revealed how old Ferb was, so it’s possible that he’s a few years older than Phineas. Also, maybe they ran into each other on the first day of college that year without seeing each other for years. I think it’s safe to assume that had already started when Phineas was looking for his.
At first, I thought the two were 9~10 since Vanessa is 7 years older than the titular duo and a year older than Candace. Given the ten-year skip in the AYA episode, I'm pretty sure Ferb was 8~9 when he began his crush on Vanessa.
Its this weird idea people have that Ferb “achieved” something by getting with Vanessa. But it would be frickin weird if Isabella had a crush on Jeremy and then they started dating when they got older right?? Exactly
exactly... some people seem to get the idea that the age gap is the main problem when in reality the problem is that she KNEW ferb while she was 16 and he was anywhere between 7-12 years old (according to canonical information provided by the show + dan & swampy themselves) if theyd just met while he was already an adult then sure, the age gap would be a little weird on its own, but it wouldn't matter because they were both adults and they both developed romantic feelings WHILE they were both adults. but in this case ferb already had romantic feelings for her while he was underage, and while it's too ambiguous to say that she for a fact groomed him, the whole "waiting until he's 18" situation the writers decided to have going on is creepy at best, especially when they had a few heavily implied "flirting" scenes in the main series, one-sided or not
Since they're both not minors anymore, age caps become less of a problem. Is it weird that Ferb had a crush on Vanessa so early in life and now they're actually dating? ...Kind of. But they aren't kids anymore, things changed. Except for Ferb's feelings I guess.
Inverse, it has been fast forward to ten years in 'Act Your Age'. A lot could have happened in ten years. There are not even a lot of moments between Vanessa and Ferb in the show to even think about whether or not Vanessa groomed Ferb. Ferbnessa was shoehorned a few minutes before the AYA episode ended, so there's no information on how they got together and such. Like you said, it was one-sided, and the romantic feelings were on Ferb's side only. Ferb's birthday is February 29th. Vanessa's birthday is June 15th. They probably dated a few months after he turned 18. It looks weird because we have no information on how things happened, but they both would be adults by then, so therefore, it's legal. The age of consent in South Dakota is 18. Also, wouldn't Phineas say something to Ferb if he thought otherwise about Vanessa? That's a rhetorical question btw.
My head Canon is Vanessa probably went to College dated around at some point between her being 16 and 25. She broke up with Monty and was in relationship after relationship that didn’t work out at some point she came back to Danville her and Ferb met up Ferb explains to her while catching up that he had a crush on her. She looks at this as nothing more is a little childhood crush, but Ferb kinda looks at it as he liked her for a while, she brushes it off and then once Ferb kind of wears it down a little bit they get together and start dating again. This is just my head cannon. It’s not true. I’m just saying that’s what I would like to think because I honestly don’t think shewould actually date for as a minor or try to set him up for a date later on so that way, she doesn’t look bad the way she would in this situation.
I think even with Vanessa showing some signs of her liking Ferb just as a person, she never garnered feelings for him until much later, and it seems like they only recently got together in their timeline. Plus, there was no way she thought he cared for her when she was just a teenager, she was clearly dating guys her age.
That’s what I was thinking. It didn’t seem like they was actually together for a while if anything when she picked him up in the car, it looked more like they had just started dating to me personally.
Vanessa did not seem to have a crush on for when he was a minor she actually dated several guys her own age are we really don't know when she broke up with Monty she was nice to ferb but I think that was mostly out of politeness and rude to be mean to like what ferbs like 10
I honestly don’t think Vanessa groomed him but like he said in a video it’s a lot of context that gets skipped over in that “act your age” episode I just feel like Vanessa wouldn’t actually do that. My head canon even though it may not be true is that maybe Vanessa went to college she dated around for a bit came back her and Ferb met up again when he was already 18. They started having a conversation he kind of explained her that he had a crush on her ever since he was a kid at first she kinda brushed it off, saying you had a little crush on me and then somewhere along the line he just wore her down and she gave in and they started dating
The joke of Ferb liking Vanessa was never that funny past the first time. They should have let that crush storyline end after their very first interaction. Reminds me of Zack and Maddy from Suite Life. Going on way too long abd ending with questionable grooming.
But Zach and Maddie didn’t end up together and on top of that Maddie was only three years older than Zach at the time. Yes that still weird and you shouldn’t do it but at the same time, she clearly said that she did not want to be with Zach. That’s his own fault if he put himself through that now yes that one episode in Suite life on deck. kind of changes that a little bit, but she never dated him at most. She kissed him on the cheek, but that’s as far as that relationship ever got. She never went out with him on an actual date as for Vanessa and Ferb both characters are well into their adulthood now I agree that I don’t think that they should’ve pursue this further in Ferb having a crush on a girl, but at the same time the creator himself literally said it was a real life experience for him. a lot of creators do things like that, but they kind of self insert certain things from their life in the shows that they create so I’m not going to assume he actually meant for her to groom him.
@@staticboyj.r. This isn't a conversation about "what's worse". The conversation is about how the shows should have stopped the storyline after a few episodes. It was never that funny of an idea and it overstayed its welcome.
@@x-man9473 I agree with you on that but at the same time it’s not like the writers ever planned for them to get together. I’m not saying one is worse than the other. I’m just simply pointing out something that you didn’t mention in the first one that’s all I was trying to say we don’t know when Ferb and Vanessa started liking each other. We know Ferb had a one-sided crush on her for a long time, but that doesn’t necessarily mean Vanessa reciprocated said feelings that he had for all we know they could’ve just started dating when we saw that scene in “act your age” but for the suite life thing we saw from the very first episode that Zach was 13 and Maddie was 15 again I’m not saying that makes it right. I’m just saying the difference here is they were three year in age fur and Vanessa were more like 6 to 10 I agree with you that they shouldn’t have continued with that plot of but at the same time it wasn’t like they actually got together in the end. It was a little Zach had a crush on Maddie in Ferb had a crush on Vanessa, but only one of them actually produced a relationship that we still don’t know the timeline of because if they never got together, we wouldn’t be having this conversation personally I don’t think Dan Povenmire should have put his self in this position with this relationship, but at the same time he was writing it from his own experience
Phineas and Ferb spinoff ideas: Spin off that will mostly focus more on vanessa, monty and my OCs' perspectives (plus johnny) and their daddy issues think both their dads and carl are turning evil. The dwampyverse effect special Possible crossovers with hamster and gretel or milo murphys law
Vanessa: Hey Ferb, I'm calling to wish you Happy Birthday. How old are you now? Ferb: Hi Vanessa, it's my 18th birthday today. It's be nice to see you agai- Vanessa: 🚗 💨
She should have gotten with Monty instead fr- cuz the Ferb thing was a silly joke over the series since its like the "likes the cool older girl" thing but to make it canon...yikes
Yea giant yikes, since we're getting season 5, I think the show could just retcon them into being just close freinds in "Act Your Age" and that Vanessa is still with Monty
I’m just going to go out on a whim and say that it was VERY recent, and that the two haven’t seen each other after that summer until a little before they got together
I never shipped the two to begin with since I was a kid while watching the show. Vanessa is literally the same age as Candace. That is old enough to be Ferb’s sister. Having a crush on an older person is one thing but Ferb was a kid and Vanessa was a teenager but Van is the older one. As I am older, I get…the ick thinking about this. Had Ferb and Vanessa gotten with people their own ages, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Mind you, PAF is aimed towards a child audience and they do not understand certain topics they are too young for such as dating for example as they do not have the same maturity like an adult does.
old enough to be your sister isn't much of a statement, since your sister can be the same age as you. he WAS a kid when she WAS a teenager. Same with every even minor age gap. But if absolutely nothing started before he was like in college IDK why it'd be a problem
Im 25. If i went out with an 18 year old my entire family would question if i was okay mentally FOR CERTAIN. Thats not even addressing the obvious differences there would be in maturity, expectations for the relationship and so on.. really gaps that big dont really end well that often anyway. Its just weird and generally frowned upon socially.
I've always hated this ship. Even if theyre adults when they got together, its creepy to get with someone you knew when they were a child and you were much older. She should've stayed with the other guy, Monty.
Ferb is 8-10. 1. When Baljeet was talking about College, Phineas replies that college is around 9 years away, implying they are in 3rd or 4th grade. 2. In Act your age, it adds 10 years. They are starting to go to college, once again implying they are around 8-9. 3. In the future episode, Linda says future Phineas and Ferb are around 30ish years old. Minus 20 would make them 10.
I’m not saying that it’s all right in any shape of form because I’m heavily against anybody dating somebody if they’re more than three years older than them but at the same time, I’m pretty sure the creator wouldn’t actually put that type of controversial decision in the show like that because he said in the video he had a real life experience and creators tend to self insert a lot with their shows and put their real life experiences in there again I’m not saying that’s right or you should ever do that. I’m just simply saying in this particular case I don’t know if I can 100% agree with you on that
@@staticboyj.r. it’s a much worse situation than his own. The Writer started dating an older woman when he went off to college. This is closer to a babysitter waiting until the kid is 18 and then jumping his bones this is not the same. Intention becomes grooming from the situation alone that he wanted It doesn’t make it any better because he just basically got stuck in a crush and she never did anything about that. It’s not really acceptable.
@@emeraldpichu1 I understand that but what I’m saying is we still don’t have all the information we don’t know when they started dating if Ferb started dating her well after he was already an adult and Vanessa genuinely did not date him when he was a minor and did not have feelings for him as a minor then this is a different story that’s why I’m saying we kinda have to look at this with some gaps in between because it’s certain things that we’re just not being told I agree with you that a lot of that stuff is still not OK. I will never sit up there and say somebody that’s freshly 18 should ever date somebody that well into their 20s I don’t care if they are an adult if you date somebody that’s freshly 18 you probably have predator type behavior regardless if you’re a man or a woman, but if you genuinely didn’t do anything wrong like some people can’t get caught up in situations where they just don’t know the age of somebody cause I’m pretty sure nobody is going to sit here and ask somebody their age before they go out with them. You see what I’m saying if you at a college party and you’re dancing with a girl, I would assume that the girl that I’m dancing with is in college you see what I’m saying now that doesn’t mean she is in college because sometimes you can have 17-year-olds that are in college because they’re super smart and things like that but nobody that I know of anyway would ever ask somebody how old are you now you definitely need to ask for consent. That’s the thing I feel like is the most important but a lot of people that I know of I’ve never seen say how old are you before they do anything with somebody or start going out you see what I saying
@@staticboyj.r. no problem here if you fallen into the pit trap of trying to justify the u justifiable when you know, it just feels wrong and you’re going in circles in your own mind trying to make it work, but it just doesn’t. She was a big sister figure to him for about a decade. There’s no way to erase that experience to do so and start dating him gives her shifty preferences by default. There’s no getting around that now but he’s so mature justification because that’s a bad justification you see in real incidences.
@@emeraldpichu1 do we both agree that the relationship is wrong? I’m not trying to justify the relationship. I’m just saying in certain situations you need all the evidence before you can justify whether or not it’s right or wrong. We don’t have context on when they started dating or not I agree with you that the relationship should’ve never gone past a little Ferb had a crush and Vanessa just kinda didn’t really know about it. She did kiss him on the cheek that one time that’s as far as it should’ve gotten, but at the same time, the creator himself still has not said whether or not they have dated before he was 18 or not so we can’t accurately say whether or not she groomed him I still agree that they should’ve just not done this at all I think damn Papa Meyer put himself in a position to where it kind of. Makes him look bad even though I don’t think he’s a bad person, but he put himself in a controversial state because of the fact that he wanted to write about that particular life section that he had when he was younger seeing as he dated an older woman when he was 19, you see what I’m sayingI’m not trying to justify anything. I’m just saying it’s a lot more to the story than we’re given. And plus we only saw Vanessa and Ferb have maybe 4 to 5 maybe six interactions with each other I can’t accurately say she’s like a big sister to him because she’s never really been around him for more than maybe a couple of hours at most, they haven’t really had time to develop a big sister younger brother type of dynamic with one another so I don’t really know if I can agree with you on that particular piece.
Groomer is weird word since even if you act freely and by your on choice and you happy with that it would consider grooming because you are minor whish is fear enough but i think it's really different after you become 18
They never revealed how old Ferb was, so it’s possible that he’s a few years older than Phineas. Also, maybe they ran into each other on the first day of college that year without seeing each other for years. I think it’s safe to assume that had already started when Phineas was looking for his.
At first, I thought the two were 9~10 since Vanessa is 7 years older than the titular duo and a year older than Candace. Given the ten-year skip in the AYA episode, I'm pretty sure Ferb was 8~9 when he began his crush on Vanessa.
the creators confirmed that he and phineas are the same age
Ferb is younger than Phineas.
Its this weird idea people have that Ferb “achieved” something by getting with Vanessa. But it would be frickin weird if Isabella had a crush on Jeremy and then they started dating when they got older right?? Exactly
exactly... some people seem to get the idea that the age gap is the main problem when in reality the problem is that she KNEW ferb while she was 16 and he was anywhere between 7-12 years old (according to canonical information provided by the show + dan & swampy themselves)
if theyd just met while he was already an adult then sure, the age gap would be a little weird on its own, but it wouldn't matter because they were both adults and they both developed romantic feelings WHILE they were both adults. but in this case ferb already had romantic feelings for her while he was underage, and while it's too ambiguous to say that she for a fact groomed him, the whole "waiting until he's 18" situation the writers decided to have going on is creepy at best, especially when they had a few heavily implied "flirting" scenes in the main series, one-sided or not
If the genders were reversed, people would be raising their eyes at this.
Sadly, people need to realize it’s not always allocis men
To be honest I don't think it matters.
Exactly, double standard.
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How? This is also concerning. I don’t really get the “reversed gender” term they are both equally bad
7:29 Talk Tuah reference
Ferb was at least 18, because neither Dan or Swampy, nor Disney, want that kind of controversy.
It still weird to date someone you knew when they were a kid and you were much older 😭
@@AverageDonaldDuckFanwasn't Vanessa 16?
@@sheila19954 an older minor (teen) dating a younger minor (child) is still grooming
I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS AND WHEN I BRING IT UP I GET IGNORED
Since they're both not minors anymore, age caps become less of a problem. Is it weird that Ferb had a crush on Vanessa so early in life and now they're actually dating? ...Kind of. But they aren't kids anymore, things changed. Except for Ferb's feelings I guess.
18 and 26 is still weird, 17 and 20 sounds more appropriate.
7:10 That may be true, but fans tend to forget that Vanessa did not have any romantic feelings on her part.
I never even noticed that Ferb had a crush on her T-T
It was made obvious since the first episode that they met.
@@AGJ117 let´s just say I was a dumb kid :,)
Inverse, it has been fast forward to ten years in 'Act Your Age'. A lot could have happened in ten years. There are not even a lot of moments between Vanessa and Ferb in the show to even think about whether or not Vanessa groomed Ferb. Ferbnessa was shoehorned a few minutes before the AYA episode ended, so there's no information on how they got together and such. Like you said, it was one-sided, and the romantic feelings were on Ferb's side only.
Ferb's birthday is February 29th. Vanessa's birthday is June 15th. They probably dated a few months after he turned 18. It looks weird because we have no information on how things happened, but they both would be adults by then, so therefore, it's legal. The age of consent in South Dakota is 18. Also, wouldn't Phineas say something to Ferb if he thought otherwise about Vanessa? That's a rhetorical question btw.
My head Canon is Vanessa probably went to College dated around at some point between her being 16 and 25. She broke up with Monty and was in relationship after relationship that didn’t work out at some point she came back to Danville her and Ferb met up Ferb explains to her while catching up that he had a crush on her. She looks at this as nothing more is a little childhood crush, but Ferb kinda looks at it as he liked her for a while, she brushes it off and then once Ferb kind of wears it down a little bit they get together and start dating again. This is just my head cannon. It’s not true. I’m just saying that’s what I would like to think because I honestly don’t think shewould actually date for as a minor or try to set him up for a date later on so that way, she doesn’t look bad the way she would in this situation.
I think even with Vanessa showing some signs of her liking Ferb just as a person, she never garnered feelings for him until much later, and it seems like they only recently got together in their timeline. Plus, there was no way she thought he cared for her when she was just a teenager, she was clearly dating guys her age.
That’s what I was thinking. It didn’t seem like they was actually together for a while if anything when she picked him up in the car, it looked more like they had just started dating to me personally.
Vanessa did not seem to have a crush on for when he was a minor she actually dated several guys her own age are we really don't know when she broke up with Monty she was nice to ferb but I think that was mostly out of politeness and rude to be mean to like what ferbs like 10
I honestly don’t think Vanessa groomed him but like he said in a video it’s a lot of context that gets skipped over in that “act your age” episode I just feel like Vanessa wouldn’t actually do that. My head canon even though it may not be true is that maybe Vanessa went to college she dated around for a bit came back her and Ferb met up again when he was already 18. They started having a conversation he kind of explained her that he had a crush on her ever since he was a kid at first she kinda brushed it off, saying you had a little crush on me and then somewhere along the line he just wore her down and she gave in and they started dating
The joke of Ferb liking Vanessa was never that funny past the first time. They should have let that crush storyline end after their very first interaction.
Reminds me of Zack and Maddy from Suite Life. Going on way too long abd ending with questionable grooming.
But Zach and Maddie didn’t end up together and on top of that Maddie was only three years older than Zach at the time. Yes that still weird and you shouldn’t do it but at the same time, she clearly said that she did not want to be with Zach. That’s his own fault if he put himself through that now yes that one episode in Suite life on deck. kind of changes that a little bit, but she never dated him at most. She kissed him on the cheek, but that’s as far as that relationship ever got. She never went out with him on an actual date as for Vanessa and Ferb both characters are well into their adulthood now I agree that I don’t think that they should’ve pursue this further in Ferb having a crush on a girl, but at the same time the creator himself literally said it was a real life experience for him. a lot of creators do things like that, but they kind of self insert certain things from their life in the shows that they create so I’m not going to assume he actually meant for her to groom him.
@@staticboyj.r. This isn't a conversation about "what's worse". The conversation is about how the shows should have stopped the storyline after a few episodes. It was never that funny of an idea and it overstayed its welcome.
@@x-man9473 I agree with you on that but at the same time it’s not like the writers ever planned for them to get together. I’m not saying one is worse than the other. I’m just simply pointing out something that you didn’t mention in the first one that’s all I was trying to say we don’t know when Ferb and Vanessa started liking each other. We know Ferb had a one-sided crush on her for a long time, but that doesn’t necessarily mean Vanessa reciprocated said feelings that he had for all we know they could’ve just started dating when we saw that scene in “act your age” but for the suite life thing we saw from the very first episode that Zach was 13 and Maddie was 15 again I’m not saying that makes it right. I’m just saying the difference here is they were three year in age fur and Vanessa were more like 6 to 10 I agree with you that they shouldn’t have continued with that plot of but at the same time it wasn’t like they actually got together in the end. It was a little Zach had a crush on Maddie in Ferb had a crush on Vanessa, but only one of them actually produced a relationship that we still don’t know the timeline of because if they never got together, we wouldn’t be having this conversation personally I don’t think Dan Povenmire should have put his self in this position with this relationship, but at the same time he was writing it from his own experience
Phineas and Ferb spinoff ideas:
Spin off that will mostly focus more on vanessa, monty and my OCs' perspectives (plus johnny) and their daddy issues think both their dads and carl are turning evil.
The dwampyverse effect special
Possible crossovers with hamster and gretel or milo murphys law
Vanessa: Hey Ferb, I'm calling to wish you Happy Birthday. How old are you now?
Ferb: Hi Vanessa, it's my 18th birthday today. It's be nice to see you agai-
Vanessa: 🚗 💨
She should have gotten with Monty instead fr- cuz the Ferb thing was a silly joke over the series since its like the "likes the cool older girl" thing but to make it canon...yikes
Yea giant yikes, since we're getting season 5, I think the show could just retcon them into being just close freinds in "Act Your Age" and that Vanessa is still with Monty
@@Numbuh8578 Close friends don't kiss. Also, it has been 10 years since their first summer; literally anything can happen between Vanessa and Monty.
@@Numbuh8578 retconning it is stupid
Ferb-nessa is basically a Babysitters dynamic. The kid falls in love with his babysitter
6:41 “yes age is just a number…. but that number could send someone to jail” 😂
I’m just going to go out on a whim and say that it was VERY recent, and that the two haven’t seen each other after that summer until a little before they got together
I never shipped the two to begin with since I was a kid while watching the show. Vanessa is literally the same age as Candace. That is old enough to be Ferb’s sister. Having a crush on an older person is one thing but Ferb was a kid and Vanessa was a teenager but Van is the older one. As I am older, I get…the ick thinking about this. Had Ferb and Vanessa gotten with people their own ages, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Mind you, PAF is aimed towards a child audience and they do not understand certain topics they are too young for such as dating for example as they do not have the same maturity like an adult does.
old enough to be your sister isn't much of a statement, since your sister can be the same age as you.
he WAS a kid when she WAS a teenager. Same with every even minor age gap. But if absolutely nothing started before he was like in college IDK why it'd be a problem
@@SamSherr-Nelson-n9e I do not hate Vanessa since she too was a minor when she met Ferb but how would things work? I have so many questions :/
8:08 Most people START college at 18 or 19, unless they're very intelligent.
Yeah finishing college at 18 is only for those who are smart enough to skip multiple grades
Im 25. If i went out with an 18 year old my entire family would question if i was okay mentally FOR CERTAIN.
Thats not even addressing the obvious differences there would be in maturity, expectations for the relationship and so on..
really gaps that big dont really end well that often anyway. Its just weird and generally frowned upon socially.
So Ferb is 18 according to the wiki in Act Your Age while it says Vanessa is about 26.
Short Answer: I don't know
it really depends when vanessa started having romatic feelings for ferb
I've always hated this ship. Even if theyre adults when they got together, its creepy to get with someone you knew when they were a child and you were much older.
She should've stayed with the other guy, Monty.
Even if Ferb was in college, Vennessa probably be working or something
Just because theres an age gap, does not automatically mean 'GrOoMeD'
Yeah, but don’t you think it is weird that they met when she was 16-17 while he was 8 and she did watch him grow up?
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Just realized Vanessa is more 16.. And ferb is 10or 12
Ferb is 8-10.
1. When Baljeet was talking about College, Phineas replies that college is around 9 years away, implying they are in 3rd or 4th grade.
2. In Act your age, it adds 10 years. They are starting to go to college, once again implying they are around 8-9.
3. In the future episode, Linda says future Phineas and Ferb are around 30ish years old. Minus 20 would make them 10.
As a kid watching it i felt uncomfortable.
I’ve ended up in that part of RUclips again…
Cool video!
She stroked his head
My parents are eight years apart
Yeah, he’s 18 she’s 25 to 27. It’s not really OK no matter how you slice it.
I’m not saying that it’s all right in any shape of form because I’m heavily against anybody dating somebody if they’re more than three years older than them but at the same time, I’m pretty sure the creator wouldn’t actually put that type of controversial decision in the show like that because he said in the video he had a real life experience and creators tend to self insert a lot with their shows and put their real life experiences in there again I’m not saying that’s right or you should ever do that. I’m just simply saying in this particular case I don’t know if I can 100% agree with you on that
@@staticboyj.r. it’s a much worse situation than his own. The Writer started dating an older woman when he went off to college. This is closer to a babysitter waiting until the kid is 18 and then jumping his bones this is not the same. Intention becomes grooming from the situation alone that he wanted It doesn’t make it any better because he just basically got stuck in a crush and she never did anything about that. It’s not really acceptable.
@@emeraldpichu1 I understand that but what I’m saying is we still don’t have all the information we don’t know when they started dating if Ferb started dating her well after he was already an adult and Vanessa genuinely did not date him when he was a minor and did not have feelings for him as a minor then this is a different story that’s why I’m saying we kinda have to look at this with some gaps in between because it’s certain things that we’re just not being told I agree with you that a lot of that stuff is still not OK. I will never sit up there and say somebody that’s freshly 18 should ever date somebody that well into their 20s I don’t care if they are an adult if you date somebody that’s freshly 18 you probably have predator type behavior regardless if you’re a man or a woman, but if you genuinely didn’t do anything wrong like some people can’t get caught up in situations where they just don’t know the age of somebody cause I’m pretty sure nobody is going to sit here and ask somebody their age before they go out with them. You see what I’m saying if you at a college party and you’re dancing with a girl, I would assume that the girl that I’m dancing with is in college you see what I’m saying now that doesn’t mean she is in college because sometimes you can have 17-year-olds that are in college because they’re super smart and things like that but nobody that I know of anyway would ever ask somebody how old are you now you definitely need to ask for consent. That’s the thing I feel like is the most important but a lot of people that I know of I’ve never seen say how old are you before they do anything with somebody or start going out you see what I saying
@@staticboyj.r. no problem here if you fallen into the pit trap of trying to justify the u justifiable when you know, it just feels wrong and you’re going in circles in your own mind trying to make it work, but it just doesn’t.
She was a big sister figure to him for about a decade. There’s no way to erase that experience to do so and start dating him gives her shifty preferences by default. There’s no getting around that now but he’s so mature justification because that’s a bad justification you see in real incidences.
@@emeraldpichu1 do we both agree that the relationship is wrong? I’m not trying to justify the relationship. I’m just saying in certain situations you need all the evidence before you can justify whether or not it’s right or wrong. We don’t have context on when they started dating or not I agree with you that the relationship should’ve never gone past a little Ferb had a crush and Vanessa just kinda didn’t really know about it. She did kiss him on the cheek that one time that’s as far as it should’ve gotten, but at the same time, the creator himself still has not said whether or not they have dated before he was 18 or not so we can’t accurately say whether or not she groomed him I still agree that they should’ve just not done this at all I think damn Papa Meyer put himself in a position to where it kind of. Makes him look bad even though I don’t think he’s a bad person, but he put himself in a controversial state because of the fact that he wanted to write about that particular life section that he had when he was younger seeing as he dated an older woman when he was 19, you see what I’m sayingI’m not trying to justify anything. I’m just saying it’s a lot more to the story than we’re given. And plus we only saw Vanessa and Ferb have maybe 4 to 5 maybe six interactions with each other I can’t accurately say she’s like a big sister to him because she’s never really been around him for more than maybe a couple of hours at most, they haven’t really had time to develop a big sister younger brother type of dynamic with one another so I don’t really know if I can agree with you on that particular piece.
It's 6 years
5:25 bro is this a fucking Pagani she's driving of what xDDDXDXD
Bro, it is.
That's me with mila kunis, i just have a crush on her, i'm a emo teen, she's the hottest woman on earth, and she voices meg, honest, i never had a gf
OOOOH MY GOOSH NO NAHHH
Groomer is weird word since even if you act freely and by your on choice and you happy with that it would consider grooming because you are minor whish is fear enough but i think it's really different after you become 18
At least Ferb got the baddie in the end, I couldn't even get a girl to even want to look or talk to me, let alone have any romantic interest in me
I hope not
I don’t think so
She’s too nice
I HATE AI CHANNELS
They groomed each other but what about Monty though
nahh she's a girl, she cant do that. he liked it
Can’t tell if this is a joke or not.
This has to be a joke
get help man
Wait until adults know teens boy wouldn't have problem going with adults women and that no dealing with this fact would just make the this worse
Horrible take, go outside