Ratchet is voiced by a legendary Star Trek actor, who has made multiple characters legendary!! Mr. Jeffery Combs! Commander Shran, The Weyoun clones, Brunt FCA!, Krem the Ferengi, etc!!!! I would know that voice anywhere!
@@emperorconstantine1.361 Dude I had just been on a DS9 clips binge lately and couldn't put my finger on why the voice actor sounded so familiar! This portrayal reminds me of his role as The Question in Justice League: Unlimited.
This Megatron has to be by far the BEST version! Strong, smart, and intimidating all at once, with a very well written backstory and also voiced by the OG Megatron.
How I love fact frank welker voice as megatron is when it deepest strongest most intimidating and chilling it even better than he did in original transformers series or any media he where he reprise megatron
I always liked Megatron as both a character and a villain. Most villains are victims of their circumstances, meanwhile Megatron is tyrannical and destructive, and he embraces it.
His honesty applies in situations where deception would prove fruitless. He very seldom tries to deceive Autobots, as they know that any promise of 'good' from Megatron's mouth would be folly. Ironically, that brutal honesty for the Autobits has always worked.
I always loved how, despite being a kids show, TFP did a good job of presenting the Decepticons as an actual military force, with its own history, goals, internal structure, military strategy and chain of command. Plus it really conveys Megatron’s skill as both a general and an orator; both key assets of an ambitious tyrant...
That’s one of the best things about this show, it holds a lot of mature and intelligent writing and themes, it’s these things in some cartoons that make them stand the test of time as you grow up. While as a kid it’s mainly the giant robots, comedy and action that mainly grabs your interest, it’s the other things I listed that KEEPS your interest
the fact that Megatron is being completely honest with Ratchet as well as giving him time and space just shows how much things mean to him. This reminds me of the early Marvel comics with these two being fused and forced to work together.
Finally a show that shows Megatrons more political side. He's not just a warrior and evil. You don't get a devoted following without words of grandeur.
A gladiator turned revolutionary who made very good points and was sympathetic he strived to make a better future for Cybertron the council was truly corrupt and had to be removed megatron wasn't wrong millions of years of war turned him into what he was
@@Darth-vade123 It is very interesting looking into Cybertron's history during the Age of Rust and seeing that the sides that made up the Autobots and Decepticons were essentially reversed before the war. With most of those that came to make the Autobot ranks being richer, naïve and unaware of the suffering their government was enforcing upon those who eventually became Decepticons. Where as those who became Decepticons were slave miners, some turned gladiators of Kaon and other Southern cities - having to fight against everyone to just survive The Decepticons were the resistance against a corrupt government, but during the war the Megatron indeed changed and lost sight of his original cause, and became the very corruption he swore to tear down. Leading to the Autobots becoming a resistance against a tyrannical military force The history of Cybertron's conflicts as a whole (Primus vs Unicron, the conflict between Megatronus and the other Primes, Optimus and Megatron) is incredibly interesting in it's repetition of ideologies and influences for either side
@@EquinoxxxxxxxxxMegatron's cause was not evil in the beginning he was trying to help but corruption and millena of conflict lead him to become what he is
Love how involved Ratchet was in this show, despite not being in action much his character was so well defined and had unique challenges and development. Easily my favourite version of the character
Something I find fascinating about this show, and most Transformers content in general, is how personal the “war” feels. Everyone knows each other by name, and no one ever really uses titles unless it’s within their own ranks. Cliffjumper refers to Starscream, the second in command of the entire Decepticon army and his eventual killer, as Scream. Any autobot can have a civil conversation with the power hungry tyrant that heads the Decepticons if they stay alive long enough for him to calm down. Decepticons and Autobots can have rivalries with the opposing side. If anyone has respect for someone on the opposite side, it’s usually because of something that happened before or unrelated to the “war.”
At this point there aren't really a lot of simple foot soldiers left. Who remains of the Cybetronian race are the most resilient or simply the luckiest, of course they are known to each other.
Funny thing about that actually. You wouldn’t know it unless you looked into the history of before the war, but Shockwave was once a good friend of Bumblebee! They watched Megatron fight in the arena together. You wouldn’t think that due to how much older Shockwave seems compared to Bumblebee, but then you remember that they’re all thousands, possibly millions of years old
@@mayor_theo bumblebee wasn’t created for the war, he was apart of the last generation of transformers who were created before the all spark stopped creating new life, most of whom joined the autobots, smokescreen is also apart of that.
One thing of particular interest for me in this scene is Ratchet bringing up Megatron's brutality against Bumblebee, rather than mentioning the death of many other comrades. It goes to show how traumatized Ratchet was by that particular act, and his inability to reverse it. We all have some 'less' relevant memories that leave great impacts on our characters, and having understood that long ago, that line hit me differently than the rest of this brilliant scene.
I think that the death of millions of cybertronians is more devastating than Bee's voice box. At least Bee is alive and well now. What about those who didn't want to become one with the all spark so early?
@@alexale5488 I think he still cares for those who lost their lives but from what I understand of Bumble Bee or B137 he was the equivalent of a 17 year old teenager joining a war and seeing how close he was with Optimus he could've bounded with Ratchet which could've made it more tragic to see this young idealistic kid get brutalized for standing his ground and to protect his friends.
@@alexale5488this comment is two years old but i still enjoy discussion of ideas. Numbers dont really matter to humans on a base level (and therefore Autobots, who are a human creation). It's about the personal relationships between those numbers. 10'000 fire ants being killed is nothing to us, even though those creatures are all living individual lives, however conscious they are of it. What matters is the relationships we see. Ratchet remembers that moment more than the thousand other deaths because that's his comrade, and i think its a fate he'd want Bee to be able to avoid, but he cant make that happen, so Ratchet struggles over it. Even in the Bay movies (my first TF exposure), Ratchet is the one to comment on Bee's voice box. I always got the impression that, at the very least, Ratchet felt that he should've been able to do something about it as a medical officer and comrade. sorry for the super long comment, this response is a passion born of the alcohol ive drank tonight xd
He does a damn good job. I however couldn't help but notice that Ratchets voice actor was Jeffrey Combs, aka Weyoun and Brunt in DS9 as well as Shran in Enterprise. One of the best and most prolific Star Trek actors.
The conversation between Megatron and Ratchet is so well written! It's so wicked of how Megatron tries to appease to Ratchet's better nature in needing his help to restore Cybertron, though the Autobot knows the Decepticon so well after being the one responsible for the war in the first place, as well as responsible for any sadistic crimes.
I love how Megatron is smart enough to know that Ratchet won’t fall for any deceptions, so instead of wasting time trying to fool him into helping, he simply appeals to Ratchets wants that align with Megatron’s. Like Arcee put it: “brutal honesty from a Decepticon”
@@ProtossTempest Translating what Megatron said into something more silly/understandable is wonderful, I wish RUclips still had the public subtitles for something like this 😭
In a way it's probably refreshing to Megatron. Think about it, every day Starscream be scheming all while kissing Megatron's skidplate. On and on it goes, but here with Ratchet, oh he hates Megatron. He'll outright say "I want to kick your butt" and Megatron probably thinking "Finally someone being upfront about what they want!" Analogous to Dracula's "You must be the Belmont" moment in Castlevania honestly.
Absolutely. I loved the dialogue in this episode between Megatron and Ratchet. Full display of Megatron's intelligence and decision making. He is not simply a brute. That's the best part. This is one of those few instances where you see why Megatron is the rightful leader of the Decepticons.
I respect that I would hate him for it but I would at least know that even if he kills me and he brings life back to Cybertron other will stop him if not Optimus
It’s better to have someone that tells you right in your face that they hate you than to have someone pretend to be your friend only to stab you when your back is turned.
He knows full well that even if he tried to feed Ratchet some bologna, Ratchet wouldn’t buy it for a second, and all it would do is make him less likely to cooperate. Brutal honesty based on a mutual desire would be most effective in getting Ratchet to help out.
I love when Megatron is shown to be brutally cunning and not just some brutish thug. Shows he not only has the strength to rule an army, but the intelligence to show why the war has gone on for so long.
Megatron was always one of my favourite characters in TFP. The design as a villain, is so well done. He's intimidating, he's more than ready to join in a fight, intelligent and surprisingly actually has moral standards. Remember when Starscream fought Optimus and Starscream was about to finish him off but Megatron comes in at the last second. As Starscream said, Optimus is right there ready for the taking. The respect Megatron has for Optimus, and would rather fight him to the death himself than simply give the killing blow after someone else had done all the work. Means a lot
Pfft. That isn’t intelligence, that’s obsession. He may be a cunning and morally agreeable commander in other continuities, but in this one he’s….not. Sure, he’s intimidating, and knows how to manipulate people (see: Ratchet, Starscream, OP when he turned back to Orion Pax) but the combination of dark energon-induced blood craze and his obsession with OP leading him to literally follow him around when Megatron could do ANYTHING ELSE speaks volumes. Though you do make an excellent point when it comes to his design. 10/10, excellent villain dynamic.
The only way Optimus Prime dies is if Megatron kills him, according to Megatron. He'd never let anyone else do it, and tells all his forces that try that they're wasting their time. He's obsessive, like he is with Starscream, not intelligent. Besides Starscream, Megatron is the biggest reason the Decepticons haven't been victorious the entire show. One or both of them is constantly setting the others back. Megatron doesn't do countless things he should when he has the chance, all because of his own arrogance. He didn't kill Bumblebee, didn't kill Starscream, didn't kill Airachnid, killed Dreadwing instead of Starscream, killed off his own Predacon army, the list goes on. Buckethead is where he is because of pure power, and for some reason, he has the allegiance of people much smarter than he is (Soundwave and Shockwave).
I just realized, the scenes where Megatron is showing Rachet all their stuff has a purpose. 1. Seeing the Cloaking System allows Rachet to shut it down in the next episode. 2. The Energon Conservation System brings up the line about Decepticon Engineering Megatron uses when Rachet sees the rebuilt Omega Lock. 3. The Quantum Inducer he sees in the lab is what Rachet uses as a distraction in the next Episode. This is well planned out storytelling and use of assets.
And The 4 Keepers Are Mentioned The Speed Planet The Beast Planet Gigantion And Earth Are The Keepers Of The Forest Key Giant Key Speed Key And Earth Key So I Would Like To See A Reference Of Vector Prime
Megatron is a very smart politician, he conveys his attentions, however good or evil, says the truth no matter how bad it is, doesn't lie and still gets what he wants, (to an extent). Wish we had more politicians like him.
You can really see how Megatron managed to convince so many Cybertronians to follow in his cause, despite its insanity. His ability to get the Decepticons to believe whatever he said through his own twisted logic was conveyed beautifully. The writers did such a good job of showing why Megatron really was a scarily effective tyrant with such an unyielding following.
Throughout the entire exchange, Megatron didn’t lie to Ratchet once. He knows trying to promise goodness to an Autobot as a Decepticon would be pointless, so instead of trying to appeal to Ratchet with morality, he instead appeals to him through methods he knows Ratchet can’t resist: scientific advancement and the promise of Cybertron’s revival. The writing of this show is phenomenal.
Megatron knew that the only way to coerce Ratchet into doing what he wanted was not by force, for Ratchet is probably second only to Bumblebee in terms of loyalty to Optimus, but by taking advantage of his greatest passion: science. This is why the Decepticons practically worship him.
More than science, Megatron KNEW that Ratchet would be the one that wanted their homeworld restored most, to the point of forsaking his brethren and humans. Megatron always took initiative in knowing his enemies, and as one of his oldest adversaries, he knew Ratchet all too well.
What gets me more is that megatron practically made ratchet comply by allowing ratchet to break through, making himself vulnerable. It was the only way he had to be vulnerable around ratchet being clear and forward with it all whilst still letting him know that even if ratchets does this, there won’t be a change just a new opportunity for the both of them
Ratchet: Megatron you would just try conquer Cybertron all over again and enslave anyone who refuses to pledge allegiance to you! Megatron: Of course I would!
I believe this is really my favorite version of Megatron. He’s fleshed out, and his ability to be deceiving yet honest at the same time perfectly represents how he was as a politician, but I’m sure he was more honest and persuasive than deceitful. A warrior who gained respect through out his gladiator days. It’s even more exciting to believe he was extremely ambitious- he wanted to connected both Earth and Cybertron due to the link- and of course rule them as equals. It’s methods are surely wrong in order to complete such a task, but it’s interesting nonetheless. Equals meaning becoming connected, and ruled by his faction. I honestly don’t understand why people thought this Megatron was stupid during the time episodes were coming out. Sure there has been times where shit gets over his head, but the cons have had more wins than the bots for almost three seasons straight. Guy is clever, and they had to somehow beat him in anyway possible.
The writing here is superb. Megatron doesn’t insult Ratchet’s intelligent by being anything but brutally, devastatingly honest. And despite Ratchet knowing that Megatron will purposely misuse his technology and probably destroy him afterwards, can’t help but comply. To save his planet. Now THAT is a good villain. And I love how both sides can’t help but begrudgingly respect the other.
That’s what I like and why I prefer Prime and Armada over G1. But to be fair, G1 had some corny yet enjoyable chemistry-related labels and insults. Spike: Let go of me you beryllium buzzard! Megatron: Resist! Terminate them! Reduce them to Lithium Litter!!!
3:15 love the honesty from Megatron. He knows exactly what he can believably offer. Gives just enough rope to let Ratchet think it's worth playing the game.
This is why I have a Hate/Love relationship with Megatron you hate him for what he is and what he's done but you have to love him for being upfront with truthful with his thoughts and intentions
1:06 the symbolism of Rachet always staying on the light, embracing it, while it can be the same said with Megatron embracing the darkness, and both of the characters justifying their actions/causes to fight or die for.
He focused on ratchets passion for science and engineering, barely needed to coerce him, he gave ratchet everything he needed, all he has to do was say yes.
The last line of dialogue goes so hard. The entire dialogue was absolutly impeccably written. Every line counted. And not to mention the VAs that conveyed so much emotion. This series was brilliant, the best I'd confidently say, and I dont believe they will make ever again a series that good. This is peak fiction right here.
This show has shown me how good Megatron is. You can't get good villains who are leaders without them having both prowess, martial skill, and prowess. The honesty, and the sense that he accepts who he is and plays to both his rep and his opponents really shows how he works.
1:05 seeing ratchet in the light stepping away from it and towards megatron is the dark is great symbolism, that despite claiming to wish to use the synthetic energon for good, Megatron is as war hungry as ever and not to be trusted
This is definitely (collectively) the most interesting talk between the factions in the show. Arguably the most honest Megatron has ever been (he knows he can't fool Ratchet anyway, and doesn't even try), and Ratchet commits to wanting Cybertron revived, even if he has to get his hands dirty to do it. The only way to save Cybertron would be for the factions to unite their forces, in some manner. Very cool.
Ratchet's VA is performing well above any paygrade I imagine he got. The inflections are immaculate. "Even if I were capable do YOU THINK...that I would HAND YOU?? a limitless supply of --?" absolute masterful character work. I can tell Ratchet takes pride in the words he chooses to use when he speaks to others with authority, so he hangs on the words he feels are most important for them to hear.
Transformers Prime is literally a love Letter to the original series from the 80s. Not only that, it brought us a more cunning and ruthless version of Megatron voiced by Frank Welker himself, but also the best version of Optimus Prime that was absolutely Robust.
I just love that Megatron was actually HONEST with Ratchet, he might not survive but thanks to him Cybertron could be back alive, the acting here was just superb, both Frank Welker and Jeffrey Combs both killed in these conversation, fantastic work by the actors and animators, man I love Prime so much.
I may be slightly nostalgic for TFP because I grew up with it, but honest to God this is one of, if not THE, best versions of Megatron. He's physically imposing and unbeatable for anyone other than Prime, yet he's also on another intellectual level when it comes to deception/persuasion. You can almost be fooled into thinking he's a good guy with how logical his arguments are, yet you can just tell he's being completely dishonest the entire time. Its that slightly unhinged nature of, 'I know you know I'm bullshitting you, but will that do anything to stop you?' that gets me, the way Megatron's eyes go wide and he has that manic look to his face, of someone who is juuuuust about to tip over the edge into total insanity yet remains in control. Absolute favourite version of Megs by a long shot.
This series reminds me alot of Avatar The Last Airbender. Another animated series supported by brilliant writing chocked filled with complex themes, dark subjects,and nuances the suits well for audiences of all ages.
This was such an underrated Megatron at the time. Rewatching this now shows me that TFP Megs was truly one of the best Megatron representations. Frank Welker at his finest
The mixture of Megatron's honesty and deception with his adversaries depending on their intelligence is truly incredible. He is so amazingly evil, but at the same time he is honest and, to a degree, respectful to his adversaries
*"Oh you misunderstand dearest Ratchet. I intend to use your formula for the purpose of creation, not distraction"* ah there's the infamous politican Megsy
There will never be a show like this. So fun to watch, and yet so serious with all its storylines. Sometimes even cruel. It was a literate masterpiece, and I really doubt there will be another Transformers show like this.
I like how megatron doesn't use insulting nicknames for autobots like a lot of villains do. He uses their names or gives them non-insulting nicknames, even if here he was just trynna oil ratchet up
The relationship between these two are so deep it constantly amazes me how this show really conveyed all the characters. I feel that instead of OP and Meg being the typical opposites, it’s actually Ratchet and Meg opposing one another. This is because Ratchet holds him solely accountable for destroying their home and for hurting Bumblebee (let’s be honest, he is a total dad to him). Probably the only 2 things he hates Meg for: being a person that kills while Ratchet tried his best to save others’ lives. I feel those sentiments are always shown in every continuity he has been in, within some form or another. I love this show.
Even though I grew up on G1 I gotta say after sitting and watching the prime series with my kiddos I gotta say Prime is by far the best transformers series.
The most terrifying thing about Megatron is his brutal honesty and straightforward-ness. He doesn't beat around bush unlike other villains in other shows. I also remember in beast hunters this interaction: Predacon: Megatron, you were responsible for the extinction of my brethren Megatron: indeed and my only mistake was not seeing the extermination through. Megatron said it straightforward unlike others who'd try to convince him
Prime did an amazing job with the writing & voice acting of this Megatron, truly managed to give him the vibe of a majestic conquer that can be just as cunning as he is brutal.
Bear in mind, Megatron is the reason why Cybertron was devastated with him and the other decepticons poluting cybertrons core with Dark Energon in War for cybertron, so if Megatron were to restore cybertron, it would be deffinitley what Cybertron was owed.
This is way megatron well always be my favorite villain because despite being evil he's still honest and some what respectfull to his enemies which is more than most villains can say about themselves
i will always standby the criterion: the more megatron interacts with the autobots outside of battles the better the show's writing. theres a rrason why lost light is a cult favorite
I always loved this conversation when i repeatedly watching TF prime it shows that Megatron is genuinely intelligent and honest and how he very well knows about ratchet the autobot medic it shows how they both weren't enemies once but became later
Just love this whole series, the characters were so well done, i especially love these scenes as the 2 of them don't talk nonesene they both know each other and know trying trick one another is pointless
Megatron and Ratchet having these great moments together reminds me of their interactions in the old Marvel comics as well. Here's hoping we can see some more fun scenes with them in the future.
God, the voice actors bring so much life, and work well in tandem with the animation. Superb.
Ratchet is voiced by a legendary Star Trek actor, who has made multiple characters legendary!!
Mr. Jeffery Combs! Commander Shran, The Weyoun clones, Brunt FCA!, Krem the Ferengi, etc!!!!
I would know that voice anywhere!
And don't forget that Megatron is once again voiced by the Legendary Frank Welker.
@@emperorconstantine1.361 Dude I had just been on a DS9 clips binge lately and couldn't put my finger on why the voice actor sounded so familiar! This portrayal reminds me of his role as The Question in Justice League: Unlimited.
@emperorconstantine1.361 you forget, he is the reanimator, Dr. HERBERT WEST!
Two of the greats, the workhorses of the industry. Combs and Welker played off each other so well here.
He treats his enemies and prisoners better than Starscream (most of the time.)
Starscream kinda played a part in that lmao
He needs him for something. Otherwise he would have been scrap.
I agree very much on that phrase
Starscream is worse than autobots he messes megatron hard in g1 or every continuity there is
who is in (most of the time)?
This Megatron has to be by far the BEST version! Strong, smart, and intimidating all at once, with a very well written backstory and also voiced by the OG Megatron.
I know, Ratchet voiced by Jeffery comb... This is nostalgia in 2013 :)
Heria Angel Yep, those were the good ol days.
@@matthewbrewer3357 hehehehe, Thanks
Heria Angel Np 👍
How I love fact frank welker voice as megatron is when it deepest strongest most intimidating and chilling it even better than he did in original transformers series or any media he where he reprise megatron
I love how megatron even tho he is evil he is extremely respectful and honest
a true gentleman, or rather gentlemech
I always liked Megatron as both a character and a villain. Most villains are victims of their circumstances, meanwhile Megatron is tyrannical and destructive, and he embraces it.
His honesty applies in situations where deception would prove fruitless. He very seldom tries to deceive Autobots, as they know that any promise of 'good' from Megatron's mouth would be folly. Ironically, that brutal honesty for the Autobits has always worked.
Yeah for a decepticon who only honors his words until the end gives him opportunities
@@foolslayer9416 Megatron is a victim too. lmao
I always loved how, despite being a kids show, TFP did a good job of presenting the Decepticons as an actual military force, with its own history, goals, internal structure, military strategy and chain of command.
Plus it really conveys Megatron’s skill as both a general and an orator; both key assets of an ambitious tyrant...
I'm so glad you. 😏
The new one on Netflix goes even further too. I don’t know why it’s rated Y7, that shit gets dark!
@@lifevest1 Language! That Transformers Prime gets dark
@@lifevest1 but you like my video
That’s one of the best things about this show, it holds a lot of mature and intelligent writing and themes, it’s these things in some cartoons that make them stand the test of time as you grow up. While as a kid it’s mainly the giant robots, comedy and action that mainly grabs your interest, it’s the other things I listed that KEEPS your interest
I could watch Megatron and ratchet talk for hours and not get bored.
You are not... Bored?
years later I still love watching this
the fact that Megatron is being completely honest with Ratchet as well as giving him time and space just shows how much things mean to him. This reminds me of the early Marvel comics with these two being fused and forced to work together.
It's always interesting to see villains interact with all the other cast of the story. For me, at the very least
Finally a show that shows Megatrons more political side. He's not just a warrior and evil. You don't get a devoted following without words of grandeur.
A gladiator turned revolutionary who made very good points and was sympathetic he strived to make a better future for Cybertron the council was truly corrupt and had to be removed megatron wasn't wrong millions of years of war turned him into what he was
@@Darth-vade123 It is very interesting looking into Cybertron's history during the Age of Rust and seeing that the sides that made up the Autobots and Decepticons were essentially reversed before the war. With most of those that came to make the Autobot ranks being richer, naïve and unaware of the suffering their government was enforcing upon those who eventually became Decepticons. Where as those who became Decepticons were slave miners, some turned gladiators of Kaon and other Southern cities - having to fight against everyone to just survive
The Decepticons were the resistance against a corrupt government, but during the war the Megatron indeed changed and lost sight of his original cause, and became the very corruption he swore to tear down. Leading to the Autobots becoming a resistance against a tyrannical military force
The history of Cybertron's conflicts as a whole (Primus vs Unicron, the conflict between Megatronus and the other Primes, Optimus and Megatron) is incredibly interesting in it's repetition of ideologies and influences for either side
@@Equinoxxxxxxxxx indeed it is they give much lore
@@EquinoxxxxxxxxxMegatron's cause was not evil in the beginning he was trying to help but corruption and millena of conflict lead him to become what he is
@@Darth-vade123no because they made optimus a prime not him he was to fanatical optimus was more level heated that's why they chose home.
Love how involved Ratchet was in this show, despite not being in action much his character was so well defined and had unique challenges and development. Easily my favourite version of the character
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Something I find fascinating about this show, and most Transformers content in general, is how personal the “war” feels. Everyone knows each other by name, and no one ever really uses titles unless it’s within their own ranks. Cliffjumper refers to Starscream, the second in command of the entire Decepticon army and his eventual killer, as Scream. Any autobot can have a civil conversation with the power hungry tyrant that heads the Decepticons if they stay alive long enough for him to calm down. Decepticons and Autobots can have rivalries with the opposing side. If anyone has respect for someone on the opposite side, it’s usually because of something that happened before or unrelated to the “war.”
At this point there aren't really a lot of simple foot soldiers left. Who remains of the Cybetronian race are the most resilient or simply the luckiest, of course they are known to each other.
Funny thing about that actually.
You wouldn’t know it unless you looked into the history of before the war, but Shockwave was once a good friend of Bumblebee! They watched Megatron fight in the arena together.
You wouldn’t think that due to how much older Shockwave seems compared to Bumblebee, but then you remember that they’re all thousands, possibly millions of years old
I thought Bumblebee was created for the war @@a.u.g.m.a.s
@@mayor_theo bumblebee wasn’t created for the war, he was apart of the last generation of transformers who were created before the all spark stopped creating new life, most of whom joined the autobots, smokescreen is also apart of that.
That's how Civil Wars are. Usually people know each other personally or by close reputation.
One thing of particular interest for me in this scene is Ratchet bringing up Megatron's brutality against Bumblebee, rather than mentioning the death of many other comrades. It goes to show how traumatized Ratchet was by that particular act, and his inability to reverse it. We all have some 'less' relevant memories that leave great impacts on our characters, and having understood that long ago, that line hit me differently than the rest of this brilliant scene.
So true he always thought he could have done better repairing bee's voice box .
@@armyforlife7162 And in the end, he actually did it.
I think that the death of millions of cybertronians is more devastating than Bee's voice box. At least Bee is alive and well now. What about those who didn't want to become one with the all spark so early?
@@alexale5488 I think he still cares for those who lost their lives but from what I understand of Bumble Bee or B137 he was the equivalent of a 17 year old teenager joining a war and seeing how close he was with Optimus he could've bounded with Ratchet which could've made it more tragic to see this young idealistic kid get brutalized for standing his ground and to protect his friends.
@@alexale5488this comment is two years old but i still enjoy discussion of ideas. Numbers dont really matter to humans on a base level (and therefore Autobots, who are a human creation). It's about the personal relationships between those numbers. 10'000 fire ants being killed is nothing to us, even though those creatures are all living individual lives, however conscious they are of it. What matters is the relationships we see. Ratchet remembers that moment more than the thousand other deaths because that's his comrade, and i think its a fate he'd want Bee to be able to avoid, but he cant make that happen, so Ratchet struggles over it. Even in the Bay movies (my first TF exposure), Ratchet is the one to comment on Bee's voice box. I always got the impression that, at the very least, Ratchet felt that he should've been able to do something about it as a medical officer and comrade.
sorry for the super long comment, this response is a passion born of the alcohol ive drank tonight xd
I always loved Frank Welker's voice for Megatron in this show. It's amazing.
It’s like his G1 voice, but smoother.
@satinguard
It is truly the definitive Megatron voice!
He does a damn good job. I however couldn't help but notice that Ratchets voice actor was Jeffrey Combs, aka Weyoun and Brunt in DS9 as well as Shran in Enterprise. One of the best and most prolific Star Trek actors.
The ultimate Megatron voice!
The conversation between Megatron and Ratchet is so well written! It's so wicked of how Megatron tries to appease to Ratchet's better nature in needing his help to restore Cybertron, though the Autobot knows the Decepticon so well after being the one responsible for the war in the first place, as well as responsible for any sadistic crimes.
I know... I know
I love how Megatron is smart enough to know that Ratchet won’t fall for any deceptions, so instead of wasting time trying to fool him into helping, he simply appeals to Ratchets wants that align with Megatron’s. Like Arcee put it: “brutal honesty from a Decepticon”
@@heriablangel4419 are you just replying "I know" to every comment you respond to?
@@larrypoppins6273 WHAT?!
The ball bearings on Ratchet to threaten Megatron immediately after having his cuffs off
And then Meg's casual disregard almost like "Cute, we both know I can beat you down instantly. Check out what we got here already!"
@@ProtossTempest Translating what Megatron said into something more silly/understandable is wonderful, I wish RUclips still had the public subtitles for something like this 😭
In a way it's probably refreshing to Megatron. Think about it, every day Starscream be scheming all while kissing Megatron's skidplate. On and on it goes, but here with Ratchet, oh he hates Megatron. He'll outright say "I want to kick your butt" and Megatron probably thinking "Finally someone being upfront about what they want!"
Analogous to Dracula's "You must be the Belmont" moment in Castlevania honestly.
The dialogues here are gold
I know. I know...
Absolutely. I loved the dialogue in this episode between Megatron and Ratchet. Full display of Megatron's intelligence and decision making. He is not simply a brute. That's the best part. This is one of those few instances where you see why Megatron is the rightful leader of the Decepticons.
It always is
I wish Welker did work in none VA roles. Or better yet be recognized by Hollywood for being a bad ass VA.
Yes
It's the _honesty_ for me. Megatron's not even _denying_ it.
*_[_**_3:15_**_]_*
I respect that I would hate him for it but I would at least know that even if he kills me and he brings life back to Cybertron other will stop him if not Optimus
That's one thing I respect about Megatron. He never made a secret out of his intentions. Who sides with him knows exactly what they're getting into.
It’s better to have someone that tells you right in your face that they hate you than to have someone pretend to be your friend only to stab you when your back is turned.
He knows full well that even if he tried to feed Ratchet some bologna, Ratchet wouldn’t buy it for a second, and all it would do is make him less likely to cooperate. Brutal honesty based on a mutual desire would be most effective in getting Ratchet to help out.
Ratchet: "You'd still be a sadistic warlord!"
Megatron: "No shit, captain obvious."
This video just goes to show how cunning Megatron can be and I love it. The writing and dialogue in this show is superb.
Thanks, I like yooou~
I love when Megatron is shown to be brutally cunning and not just some brutish thug. Shows he not only has the strength to rule an army, but the intelligence to show why the war has gone on for so long.
It's a perfect blend megatron is a gladiator but he's also intelligent and cunning It adds so much to him he is truly written well
Megatron was always one of my favourite characters in TFP. The design as a villain, is so well done. He's intimidating, he's more than ready to join in a fight, intelligent and surprisingly actually has moral standards. Remember when Starscream fought Optimus and Starscream was about to finish him off but Megatron comes in at the last second. As Starscream said, Optimus is right there ready for the taking.
The respect Megatron has for Optimus, and would rather fight him to the death himself than simply give the killing blow after someone else had done all the work. Means a lot
Pfft. That isn’t intelligence, that’s obsession. He may be a cunning and morally agreeable commander in other continuities, but in this one he’s….not. Sure, he’s intimidating, and knows how to manipulate people (see: Ratchet, Starscream, OP when he turned back to Orion Pax) but the combination of dark energon-induced blood craze and his obsession with OP leading him to literally follow him around when Megatron could do ANYTHING ELSE speaks volumes.
Though you do make an excellent point when it comes to his design. 10/10, excellent villain dynamic.
@@mallow80 so like any honor bounded warrior
@@mallow80 Indeed, Megatron's biggest problem is that he's gone mad with his addiction to the blood of Satan, and his obsession with Optimus.
thats not respect lol, that is greed and arrogance. Megatron wants to be the one to kill optimus, to fully satisfy his desire for revenge.
The only way Optimus Prime dies is if Megatron kills him, according to Megatron. He'd never let anyone else do it, and tells all his forces that try that they're wasting their time. He's obsessive, like he is with Starscream, not intelligent. Besides Starscream, Megatron is the biggest reason the Decepticons haven't been victorious the entire show. One or both of them is constantly setting the others back. Megatron doesn't do countless things he should when he has the chance, all because of his own arrogance. He didn't kill Bumblebee, didn't kill Starscream, didn't kill Airachnid, killed Dreadwing instead of Starscream, killed off his own Predacon army, the list goes on. Buckethead is where he is because of pure power, and for some reason, he has the allegiance of people much smarter than he is (Soundwave and Shockwave).
Megatron made an offer that Ratchet could not refuse.
I just realized, the scenes where Megatron is showing Rachet all their stuff has a purpose.
1. Seeing the Cloaking System allows Rachet to shut it down in the next episode.
2. The Energon Conservation System brings up the line about Decepticon Engineering Megatron uses when Rachet sees the rebuilt Omega Lock.
3. The Quantum Inducer he sees in the lab is what Rachet uses as a distraction in the next Episode.
This is well planned out storytelling and use of assets.
I suppose you could call it three Chekhov’s guns
Yes
And The 4 Keepers Are Mentioned The Speed Planet The Beast Planet Gigantion And Earth Are The Keepers Of
The Forest Key Giant Key Speed Key And Earth Key So I Would Like To See A Reference Of Vector Prime
Megatron is a very smart politician, he conveys his attentions, however good or evil, says the truth no matter how bad it is, doesn't lie and still gets what he wants, (to an extent). Wish we had more politicians like him.
Consider me an option XD
Think about that a moment.... all the way through.
Senator armstrong
U want a tyrant as a politician?
@@lordoftheflies7024 No.
*"No one whatsoever, after all we both know that as a Decepticon, any assuarances I might offer would be worthless"*
yessss, blunt Megsy
You can really see how Megatron managed to convince so many Cybertronians to follow in his cause, despite its insanity. His ability to get the Decepticons to believe whatever he said through his own twisted logic was conveyed beautifully. The writers did such a good job of showing why Megatron really was a scarily effective tyrant with such an unyielding following.
He also had the force to impose his will at any moment.
@@Careerender
And he had the strength, cunning, and combat experience to back all that up.
There was once, of course, the original cause of the Deceptions that was moral and just. But hey, war changes people.
I love megatron's facial expressions and his body movements lol
The best Decepticon
When Megatron says "when we do not try" for some reason, I just love the way he moves as he says it
Okay. It's kinda nice
If only Megatron wasn't evil Ratchet would have been glad to study their tech he seems so interested in Deception Engineering and Technology
Throughout the entire exchange, Megatron didn’t lie to Ratchet once. He knows trying to promise goodness to an Autobot as a Decepticon would be pointless, so instead of trying to appeal to Ratchet with morality, he instead appeals to him through methods he knows Ratchet can’t resist: scientific advancement and the promise of Cybertron’s revival.
The writing of this show is phenomenal.
Megatron knew that the only way to coerce Ratchet into doing what he wanted was not by force, for Ratchet is probably second only to Bumblebee in terms of loyalty to Optimus, but by taking advantage of his greatest passion: science. This is why the Decepticons practically worship him.
More than science, Megatron KNEW that Ratchet would be the one that wanted their homeworld restored most, to the point of forsaking his brethren and humans. Megatron always took initiative in knowing his enemies, and as one of his oldest adversaries, he knew Ratchet all too well.
What gets me more is that megatron practically made ratchet comply by allowing ratchet to break through, making himself vulnerable. It was the only way he had to be vulnerable around ratchet being clear and forward with it all whilst still letting him know that even if ratchets does this, there won’t be a change just a new opportunity for the both of them
Megatron is also scientific to as even has used his brain to create weapons of war
Ratchet: Megatron you would just try conquer Cybertron all over again and enslave anyone who refuses to pledge allegiance to you!
Megatron: Of course I would!
LOL!
At least he is honest
Brutal honesty from a decepticon?
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What other kind of honesty would you expect!
@@Halomanx540 None whatsoever.
Have to give it to Megatron. At least he’s honest
yeahh
I believe this is really my favorite version of Megatron. He’s fleshed out, and his ability to be deceiving yet honest at the same time perfectly represents how he was as a politician, but I’m sure he was more honest and persuasive than deceitful. A warrior who gained respect through out his gladiator days. It’s even more exciting to believe he was extremely ambitious- he wanted to connected both Earth and Cybertron due to the link- and of course rule them as equals. It’s methods are surely wrong in order to complete such a task, but it’s interesting nonetheless. Equals meaning becoming connected, and ruled by his faction.
I honestly don’t understand why people thought this Megatron was stupid during the time episodes were coming out. Sure there has been times where shit gets over his head, but the cons have had more wins than the bots for almost three seasons straight. Guy is clever, and they had to somehow beat him in anyway possible.
*ALL* of transformers prime's characters are my favorite iterations of them, I'd kill for the show just to be reanimated.
The writing here is superb. Megatron doesn’t insult Ratchet’s intelligent by being anything but brutally, devastatingly honest. And despite Ratchet knowing that Megatron will purposely misuse his technology and probably destroy him afterwards, can’t help but comply. To save his planet. Now THAT is a good villain.
And I love how both sides can’t help but begrudgingly respect the other.
German: German engineering is the best in the world!
Decepticon: Ha-ha, I laughed.
Well it actually is. Including America and Japan.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love how transformers prime doesnt stray from using vocabulary, and doesnt treat us like kids
That’s what I like and why I prefer Prime and Armada over G1.
But to be fair, G1 had some corny yet enjoyable chemistry-related labels and insults.
Spike: Let go of me you beryllium buzzard!
Megatron: Resist! Terminate them! Reduce them to Lithium Litter!!!
I legitimately learned several words from this show as a kid.
Antiquated, collaborate, oblique, cataclysm, and minutia were some examples of that.
3:15 love the honesty from Megatron.
He knows exactly what he can believably offer.
Gives just enough rope to let Ratchet think it's worth playing the game.
2:19 Damn bruh Ratchet was ready to throw hands
Field medic hes been in some hard fights no doubt
Even after being quite literally thrown around by Megatron Ratchet's ready to throw hands with him again with no hesitation.
Or blades, in that situation. Lol
Wtf is he trying to do?? Megatron's canon alone is bigger than his head.....
This is why I have a Hate/Love relationship with Megatron you hate him for what he is and what he's done but you have to love him for being upfront with truthful with his thoughts and intentions
1:06 the symbolism of Rachet always staying on the light, embracing it, while it can be the same said with Megatron embracing the darkness, and both of the characters justifying their actions/causes to fight or die for.
He focused on ratchets passion for science and engineering, barely needed to coerce him, he gave ratchet everything he needed, all he has to do was say yes.
You gotta respect Megatron's directness and honesty.
Ratchet: "Are these humans; supposed to mean something to me"?
Me: That's just cold. And he hasn't even been using synthetic energon.
You can’t give in to Megatron, not even a little bit. Fold, and he hammers you until you do his bidding. That’s the Prime Megatron we all love
I agree, I did make my video.
He said that to save them!
Oh, thanks
He said that so he doesn’t go after them.
The last line of dialogue goes so hard.
The entire dialogue was absolutly impeccably written. Every line counted. And not to mention the VAs that conveyed so much emotion.
This series was brilliant, the best I'd confidently say, and I dont believe they will make ever again a series that good. This is peak fiction right here.
How I love fact frank welker voice as megatron is when it deepest strongest coolest most intimidating and chilling
This show has shown me how good Megatron is. You can't get good villains who are leaders without them having both prowess, martial skill, and prowess. The honesty, and the sense that he accepts who he is and plays to both his rep and his opponents really shows how he works.
1:05 seeing ratchet in the light stepping away from it and towards megatron is the dark is great symbolism, that despite claiming to wish to use the synthetic energon for good, Megatron is as war hungry as ever and not to be trusted
This is definitely (collectively) the most interesting talk between the factions in the show. Arguably the most honest Megatron has ever been (he knows he can't fool Ratchet anyway, and doesn't even try), and Ratchet commits to wanting Cybertron revived, even if he has to get his hands dirty to do it. The only way to save Cybertron would be for the factions to unite their forces, in some manner. Very cool.
Ratchet's VA is performing well above any paygrade I imagine he got. The inflections are immaculate.
"Even if I were capable do YOU THINK...that I would HAND YOU?? a limitless supply of --?" absolute masterful character work. I can tell Ratchet takes pride in the words he chooses to use when he speaks to others with authority, so he hangs on the words he feels are most important for them to hear.
Transformers Prime is literally a love Letter to the original series from the 80s. Not only that, it brought us a more cunning and ruthless version of Megatron voiced by Frank Welker himself, but also the best version of Optimus Prime that was absolutely Robust.
I just love that Megatron was actually HONEST with Ratchet, he might not survive but thanks to him Cybertron could be back alive, the acting here was just superb, both Frank Welker and Jeffrey Combs both killed in these conversation, fantastic work by the actors and animators, man I love Prime so much.
Megatron's dialog at 3:31 is underrated
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I may be slightly nostalgic for TFP because I grew up with it, but honest to God this is one of, if not THE, best versions of Megatron. He's physically imposing and unbeatable for anyone other than Prime, yet he's also on another intellectual level when it comes to deception/persuasion. You can almost be fooled into thinking he's a good guy with how logical his arguments are, yet you can just tell he's being completely dishonest the entire time. Its that slightly unhinged nature of, 'I know you know I'm bullshitting you, but will that do anything to stop you?' that gets me, the way Megatron's eyes go wide and he has that manic look to his face, of someone who is juuuuust about to tip over the edge into total insanity yet remains in control. Absolute favourite version of Megs by a long shot.
This is over 10 years old and it still makes me geek out like a child. Goes to show that a good story it timeless.
My God this show was so good. I don't know if there ever going to top it.
Doubtful. IMO, this series is the franchise in its Prime.
1:05 I just notice the symbolism: Ratched standing in the light while Megatron stands in the dark, both discussing the potential future
This series reminds me alot of Avatar The Last Airbender. Another animated series supported by brilliant writing chocked filled with complex themes, dark subjects,and nuances the suits well for audiences of all ages.
Because Series is based on Transformers Movie and Animated
@@Tri-vy2theh, korra wasn't all bad. RiD though, that's a different story
I can respect Megatron being honest and upfront with his answers
Do you ever just have a Ratchet and Megatron moment? I know I do.
Yes, I do it
Megatron: I’m evil and I love it.
This was such an underrated Megatron at the time. Rewatching this now shows me that TFP Megs was truly one of the best Megatron representations. Frank Welker at his finest
This Megatron is hands down the most intelligent iteration
Don't forget transformers animated
“Oh course I would!” Lmfao
Brutal honesty from THE Decepticon. Ironic.
The mixture of Megatron's honesty and deception with his adversaries depending on their intelligence is truly incredible. He is so amazingly evil, but at the same time he is honest and, to a degree, respectful to his adversaries
I love how Megatron offers Ratchet a look at their fancy tech only to toss him to the Wolf later on
I really miss this so much
Don't worry about Transformers Prime Season 4
Me Too!
It's good to revisit TFP sometimes.
I love that ratchet, despite not being the best fighter , he's not afraid of Megatron
I have to admit, I would be seriously tempted by that proposition. While you don't need to agree with Megatron, his reasoning is sound.
I like how here we see more of megatrons charismatic side
This proves, once and for all, that Megatron DOES have priorities.
*"Oh you misunderstand dearest Ratchet. I intend to use your formula for the purpose of creation, not distraction"*
ah there's the infamous politican Megsy
destruction*
There will never be a show like this. So fun to watch, and yet so serious with all its storylines. Sometimes even cruel.
It was a literate masterpiece, and I really doubt there will be another Transformers show like this.
I'll say this as many times as I can, TFP is is what the Bayverse should've been
I like how megatron doesn't use insulting nicknames for autobots like a lot of villains do. He uses their names or gives them non-insulting nicknames, even if here he was just trynna oil ratchet up
Gotta love this show never gets old
I know, right?
The relationship between these two are so deep it constantly amazes me how this show really conveyed all the characters. I feel that instead of OP and Meg being the typical opposites, it’s actually Ratchet and Meg opposing one another. This is because Ratchet holds him solely accountable for destroying their home and for hurting Bumblebee (let’s be honest, he is a total dad to him). Probably the only 2 things he hates Meg for: being a person that kills while Ratchet tried his best to save others’ lives. I feel those sentiments are always shown in every continuity he has been in, within some form or another.
I love this show.
Another reason to Adore and Love Megatron!
Even though I grew up on G1 I gotta say after sitting and watching the prime series with my kiddos I gotta say Prime is by far the best transformers series.
The most terrifying thing about Megatron is his brutal honesty and straightforward-ness. He doesn't beat around bush unlike other villains in other shows.
I also remember in beast hunters this interaction:
Predacon: Megatron, you were responsible for the extinction of my brethren
Megatron: indeed and my only mistake was not seeing the extermination through.
Megatron said it straightforward unlike others who'd try to convince him
We should expect nothing less from the Gladiator Champion who fought in the pits of Kaon!
@@TPDManiacXC626 you should have heeded my advice and fought me as a beast
I really wished we would have seen the character progression of ratchet going evil. Like how Rhinox became Tankor in Beast Machines
I know
I'm quite happy they got Jeffrey Combs to VA Ratchet. He played one of my favorite characters in ST:DS9
Prime did an amazing job with the writing & voice acting of this Megatron, truly managed to give him the vibe of a majestic conquer that can be just as cunning as he is brutal.
Megatron would make a great salesman.
Instead of being a gladiatorial miner, he was a fucking random ass salesman
@@The-Ent1ty
The latter case I can picture as a likely background for the Combaticon Swindle, before he joined the Decepticons.
I think Megatron's love for science, tech and research is way higher than Optimus Prime. He is a complete leader although evil.
Bear in mind, Megatron is the reason why Cybertron was devastated with him and the other decepticons poluting cybertrons core with Dark Energon in War for cybertron, so if Megatron were to restore cybertron, it would be deffinitley what Cybertron was owed.
Decepticon technology has been consistent in nearly all of the depictions of the Transformers franchise. Truly impressive
This is way megatron well always be my favorite villain because despite being evil he's still honest and some what respectfull to his enemies which is more than most villains can say about themselves
Best design Megatron ever.
I just love Megatron
You love megatron?
@Living Life Saaaaame
@@heriablangel4419Yes.
3:25 Love this. He's so blunt
1:06 holy shit ratchet is smaller than i thought
Or Megatron is just big as shit
megatron is bigger than optimus so he isn't small, megatron is just massive
i will always standby the criterion: the more megatron interacts with the autobots outside of battles the better the show's writing. theres a rrason why lost light is a cult favorite
I always loved this conversation when i repeatedly watching TF prime it shows that Megatron is genuinely intelligent and honest and how he very well knows about ratchet the autobot medic it shows how they both weren't enemies once but became later
Great work, I love Ratchet in TFP.
TFP: How to write a villain petfectly.
also i just love how honest he is and this is how i picture megatron would be like.
Just love this whole series, the characters were so well done, i especially love these scenes as the 2 of them don't talk nonesene they both know each other and know trying trick one another is pointless
Decepticon tech is always impressive 🤩
Scariest thing was the whole time he wasn't lying
Megatron and Ratchet having these great moments together reminds me of their interactions in the old Marvel comics as well. Here's hoping we can see some more fun scenes with them in the future.
Animated Megatron has got nothing on this guy
Optimus prime and the autobots need you to help them Ratchet