Reza Aslan - In Search Of Jesus - 04/10/14
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Reza Aslan is the author of the bestselling books No god but God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of Islam and Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth. He is an associate professor of creative writing at the University of California and a research associate at the University of Southern California's Center on Public Diplomacy. He holds a Master of Theological Studies from Harvard Divinity School and a Ph.D. in the history of religion from the University of California, Santa Barbara.
What i like about Reza Aslan is, he always differentiates when he is talking as a scholar or as a muslim or as an ex-christian, and even having tremendous amount of knowledge about this topic, never claims to have the ultimate truth.
deserticus18 Exactly!!
Yeah.. this talks was kind of different than other his talks with different audience. He adapt to the audience, so the audience dont get offended. LOL
Amazing scholar, he knows what he's talking about, never get tired listening to him.
I really enjoyed the video, just finished his book. A lot to think on and he makes good points. Also quite a good speaker. Pluralism of all religions is needed.
Roses Of Time did you just post a book! I suggest if you want to make a point, try to make your comments as short as possible cause frankly people will not read a book on RUclips comment section.
Reza is brilliant! He knows how to keep an atheist (me) thinking ;)
Why not read J. Krishnamurti if you want to think and be free of religion.
luminoushedgehog
Why not! I'll check him out. (disclaimer, I'm already thinking lol)
he is a liar, u muslim
Paul Wood LMFAO
You can be a follower of Jesus without being a Christian, just as you can be a Christian without being a follower of Jesus.
What Reza Aslan says are so true. I think he has made us realize who exactly Jesus was and how we interpret him today.
woow he is growing as he talks..gifted energijetic smart cute entartainer mindblowing .He is a great scholar without doubt..
be the change you wanna see in the world Right! Love this guy.
He’s a liar.
his approach is not infallible but many here are not good critics of research work. they absolutely listen to accept because they lack knowledge
I really enjoyed this.
Hate him or Like him all you want buy he is very good at what he does. I like him though I understand why many would hate him...
Interesting lecture and good speaker..
Reza Aslan deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. He's a brilliant moderator of religious differences. I truly wish to see a similar comparison lecture in the near future of the historical vs. faith-based Moses, Mohammad, and Buddha.
There is no Historical Moses. He didnt exist lol.
he's a brilliant comedian because he keeps his audience laugh always.
Even though I am a big fan of Aslan, he (literally) repeats himself in every speech he gives. Oh God, he repeats the same exact words -- "it tells you how little I understood America", his joke about his parents, etc.!!
Muhammad El-Gazzar Not really, he adds a thing here and there that is of great interest, and, it's great he's spreading this healthy dose of truth with this type of twist.
Touching a sensitive matter with intelligent fact!
All the hater's of Reza, you're just don't get it.
j Nakhjo Who would hate Reza? He is so intelligent and logical. Passionate.
Thank you for the upload.
Reza enjoys using his "own words" to create more doubts about who Jesus is, rather then using "Jesus own words" in clearing stating who He is. It is your choice which man you choose to put your faith in. But make not mistake, faith is what you have to use to believe either one.
Great talk. Much respect to the hosts.
I want to be friend of reza aslan. he is very smart in his area. thanks for your teachings, i've been atheist for a lot of time, but now I'm becoming an agnostic atheist...
Very interesting indeed. Will be reading further.
Reza has a blurb that he always uses to introduce himself. It is very good, a bit like a stand up comedians material.
I am an atheist turned mystic. I always resonated with Taoist and Buddhist thought more than Christianity, and eastern spirituality has been my path. But if I had to choose to live out my spiritual devotion as a Christian or a Muslim, I would choose to be Christian faster than you can blink an eye.
you'll be surprise in term spirituality when you engage in islam sufism..try this for a sec,first free your self from the urge of who's god really is, let say God is God up there and not anything else, then try this verse laa illaha ilallah 33x while sit, while you lay down except when you taking a dump, 5 times a day or on every occasion when never you remember for as long as you want and..and decide it for your self..and feel the change
He died for the sins of the world. Read Matthew 24 chapter where Jesus gives all the warning signs of end time….very carefully, word by word, don’t missed the preposition. Right now ever world is trying to embrace all religions are good. Then read John 14:6/3:16. ❤️🙏🏽
Your last point makes no sense. You never gave Islam a chance to begin with. You can't have a strong opinion on something you have no knowledge about.
Aslan is Jesus of Narniaa. Author of Narnia also wrote "In Defense of Christianity". Fun fact.
His wit is wonderful. What I gained from him, above all else, though, is the way he puts into high relief the fundamentalists in this country against the teachings of Jesus. When he says Jesus was deadly earnest when he said the rich shall be last.This totally turned upside down the rich and poor hierarchical strucure then and now. So many including the White House occupant totally disregard the words of Jesus while proclaiming a monopoly on Christianity.
He's scholar understands the original language of Jesus. Thus knowing Abrahamic God conveys peace, love, and modesty in life last but not the least how to worship Him correctly through prophets message.
Hard to call one's self Christian in an age where Rome has "Christians" worshipping the state.
I recently read Zealot for the first time & it once again cemented everything I knew of Christ since a child. Jesus isn't wearing flags. He would prefer to burn them.
He really does look Mexican.
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Se ve paisa
I am sorry Reza. I misjudged you. I discovered Jesus lately. The one of faith, through an Evangelist church.
God bless you.
I agree with Aslan when he said his critics are evangelical Christians because theur politics do not jive wirh the politics of Jesus. He is saying it right here if not as explicit as in some other of his talks.
💯🎸💾🏛Reza when we distinguish the voice ..dont need the world ..follow it...we live in the world ..but do not drive car ..like the world drive...we let the voice drive us like ..wind dont get permission when to blow..like rivers dont cease the meaning..how much they want to flow..Reza today if we hear the voice..we sons & daughter of ourselves..dont need know each other to meet..to meet each other and dont know what to speak..they will send you before their sinagoge ..and constrain say what they want..but The voice with teach you said I loved but I lied..
yes reza is brilliant just ask him.. the problem is that he mistakenly claimed he is a historian and mistakenly claimed has a phd in history.. so i ask how can a guy who doesnt know who he himself is then how could he possibly try to tell us who jesus is...
If there is a Jesus' spiritual look i can see it in Reza Aslan's face.
I'm neither a "Christian" nor a "follower of Jesus", but I cannot see any man in all history of mankind more interesting than Jesus. I'm just obsessed with Jesus, hence why i'm here. "Jesus" still keeps getting reincarnated in many individuals all over the world in every era. Maybe "Jesus" always appears in the middle of the struggle of man and his society, One vs. Many.
I feel that churches are inviting him to speak at churches because he is preaching that it's ok to worship jesus of myth and to make up whatever you want of him to suit your faith desires even if you are lying about jesus of history and the truth. If this is not paganism then I dont know what is.
A smart business man but despite his macavalian sceem he still succeeded at the end somehow to maintain a good cause which is good enough for me and that's what I like about him.
So, I would like to hear what Reza thinks about how and where Jesus got his teachings considering he came from severe poverty and was a lowly builder.
if you see his other speaking, he said that he got that orally from others, not from reading because as reza argued 98% jews are illiterate.
Being poor and illiterate does not mean stupid and non-thinking.
out of many one thanks
The TRUE Historical Jesus is SO MUCH MORE interesting than the Christ of faith. With the "divinity" taken out of the picture, it's SO MUCH MORE easier to understand who HE REALLY WAS. And that was a Jewish REVOLUTIONARY. One of THE MOST POLARIZING figures in HISTORY. Whose words GET TWISTED & TIED. AND WHO IS CONSTANTLY MISQUOTED.
In search of Jesus? ? Really? I personally believe, you play games.... You know very well ... you kind of missed the chance to find Jesus.
You can hate him or like him This man knows what he's talking about. GOD=creator Man=creations. Creation can NEVER become Creator or GOD. Simple math.
God is supernatural. He made all natural laws which he can overrule. God came to earth in the form of baby Jesus, grew up, died and rose from the dead then rose into the heavens. Our human minds find this hard to understand yet it's true.
Dr. Khalid Eissa Yet, we DO create also as we are a spark of God.
Its your interpretation :). We have a different interpretation of who and what God is.. and as Mr Aslan says all interpretation is valid. Oops.
My interpretation is that you dont understand the Trinity. Thats fine but the problem is that those who dont understand it are intolerant of those who do. And thats a problem.
He died over 2000 years ago
So to sum up: The stuff in the bible about Jesus did not happen in the real world. It's a fiction that we call faith. Exactly. It's the fools that think faith is truth that have caused so much pain, misery and death for 2000 years. IT'S A STORY. Please everyone grow up. There is truth and there is faith. They are two very different and often contradictory things.
You have totally misunderstood
Well, we are actually not sure if Jesus were not part of those sort of "monastic orders". Between the ages of 12 and 30 we don't know what happened to him.
Wow
Respect for brother reza for brilliant explanation
Christianity become popular because of Romans king accepted his teaching and as European it's become part of European religion but his teaching or concept of God were exactly what prophet Ibrahim or mosses David before him were teaching to worship one and only God Allah
Sadly Christianity created god out of messenger of god which is blasphemy according to Jewish and Muslims beliefs
Buddha did not try to reform Hinduism. That's a false claim. Buddha was a man who tried to find a path to end suffering.
No. He was a reformer... of Hinduism. Read Prof.John Renard. His work explains it best. ".. a man who tried to find a path to end suffering" = Yes. He did try to do this.
Heard modern philosophers support claim assumed all suffering forget it turn to positive feelings there's none accounted for but unfortunately the mother religion didn't seem followed it up yet abandoned to noman's land.
Also a cardinal found castes division useful society's organized eternally?!
Christian view has been Mankind in fallen state must follow its leader's example as God's servants reverse it by sharing burdens as forgiving debt of sins against one another over that virtuous cycle subdued evils forever when restored earth to God's realm...
Reza don't know Jesus from Jay Z.
+Islamic Ba'athism In order for the Muslims to have a faith of their own they needed to rewrite the centuries old faith of others. That's pretty much the end of the debate.
That is an excellent conclusion. For a segment of the tribe that has not developed a Neocortex, yet.
Reza states that in the Gospels, there are fictional accounts and re writes to make Jesus less Jewish and to remove blame from Romans which is very evident. I am wondering what evidence and what historical data does he use to place Jesus in history. Why does Reza believe that Jesus died in the 30s AD, the Gospels? The zealot movement became relevant in the 60s. How are we sure Jesus did not die in the 60s. It seems that using the Gospels for historical data is a problem.
JESUS IS FOR THE POOR AND OPPRESSED, YESTERDAY AND TODAY AND THEREFORE, THEY (THE BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA AND ALL OVER THE WORLD) SHALL RULE. THE MESSIAH OF TODAY WOULD COME FROM AND TO THEM , NOT THE JEW, FOR THEY NEED HIM THE MOST. LOOK AROUND...
Jesus would have had to be a man of his times or he would have come during a different time.
if anyone wants to know who reza is an apologist for just read the people on line who support him....some of the meanest, crude, ignorant things are said by reza supporters and i've heard and seen reza acting the exact same way. being a scholar in religion is less useful to the human race then working at a sewage plant
While human history is highly skeptical that is inclined only in the senses.
Faith is the evolution of the Soul in the wisdom of God...Jesus crucifixion (Bali) was the Great Will of God Almighty for the redemption of all mankind from the captivity of Sin(karma) and death... whosoever believes this and confesses that Jesus is Lord and Saviour have this promise.
Jesus of history???? hmmm. Interesting assumptions we make to remain sane in our heads.
jesus is arab , not jew .. so what do you think ..
+fajar wibowo swallow this :STUPIDITY IS NOT A HANDICAP.
You are actually....CORRECT. Jesus was a MIzrahim Jew or an Arab Jew.
Arab or Jew whats the point here? Is an Arab superior to a Jew or vice versa? What did the prophet PBUH say in his last sermon on Mount Arafah in 630 AD? Get on the right track. Even if Jesus PBUH was Chinese. So what?
+Jay Z Salvation
actualy no problem for muslim
but for western this big problem
Why didn't he do a book about Muhammad? Things that make you go hmmmm.
Reza Aslan did write a book about Mohammad 7 years ago called "No god but God". Also a best seller :)
fanzy1338 No god but God is not about the historical man known as Muhammad. It's about Islam and various topics, i.e. jihad. He has not written a book about the historical Muhammad, not the Muhammad of religious tradition. If he really believes that Islam is a religion of peace, then he should write about Muhammad, just like he did about Jesus. Did you know he has a Master's of Art in Fiction? He's no scholar... lol.
Are you dumb have you even read no god but god it's all about Muhammad smh.
Chael Sonnen
Chael Sonnen No, but if find that people who result to insults tend to be intellectually challenged. No God But God is not a HISTORICAL BIOGRAPHY about Muhammad. It is about Islam and covers various subjects within Islam. It speaks about Muhammad and the beginnings of his movement, but it is not a HISTORICAL BIOGRAPHY as Zealot is supposed to be about Jesus.
someone trying to twist the truth and add his fiction story lol
Agustus orders a Census and Jesus is born
jesus was a teckton= builder a Mason in skill
Pontuis = bridge builder,and Pilate= spear
"the spear that pierced his side was ordered from the bridge builder"
Jesus was executed in the true place of the scull [golgoletha] just across the Kidron valley bridge on the outer wing of the temple known as the Miphkad alter= [numbering census] where jesus was crusified [note] Bethphage was located hereon the mount of olives as was the Sanhedrin seat of moses and this is where David angered the Lord by NUMBERING [Miphkad] his people.
the Miphkad of his name is 666 [note] read the first chapter of Numbers
Solomon received 666 talents of gold each year from his wife Sheba of Sudan
see the Numbering or the saints in true understanding and count
learn the parable of the Talents and the numbering of his sheep through the gate as they mark the head and count the number of the beast
do not enter by any other way than the gate or you are a thief
you must first bind the strong man; then as a thief take from his house
those who trespass in sin will be utterly consumed in fire as the Miphkad was commanded
wes tairport Thats like D&D, LotR level shyt right there.
How many types of drugs are you on, and where can I get some?
"Zealot" is a bad book, based in typical muslim views of Christ and on terrible Historiography. He says for instance that the four canonical gospels are not to be trusted but he uses them to defend its positions when he wants...Don t believe him.
LOL! I found his "historical findings" comical at best.
But for those who know Jesus in truth, his "spirit" remains the same across all peoples, tribes and nations, for his is the spirit of God's love within him that makes the difference. We see the spirit of God, his mercy, compassion & freedom leading the Hebrews out from bondage, being the spirit of freedom, and that of Charity giving in effort that they are delivered from the spirits that come with hunger and thirst that they have Peace, for God's spirit is of that of love seen in Jesus also. To really know Jesus is to know his spirit, in the way that he went, in the way of his being, in his reminding us that we could have Peace in abiding in truth, the spirit which preserves life giving us signs of the spirit so that we are aware of how evil works through People in denying the truth. In Truth, Palestine was a named given by the Romans, after they exiled the Jews, those faithless souls of fear and Pride who sought to replace what God had given name to, leading to division in people going the roman way (the way of man), even as the spirit of sibling rivalry has divided the people in that of doubt, between Sara and Hagar whose complaints were herd by her grandson who believe Hagar in the spirit of Egypt, who choose not to go the way of the Spirit of Abraham, to honor that which God did proclaim, even about about Isaac, in the word being of the Spirit of prophecy, even to become a test of faith, of their loyalty in truth, not unlike the words of Jesus "call no man father but the Father in heaven, abiding in truth in the spirit of God; where in truth, a father who literally has a son is in the realm of truth, but he who is not a father but has man to call him Father is led to error, as it denies truth on some level, not in the realm of truth physically and spiritually denies the word of Jesus, even as God the Father of souls does so abide in truth in being called Father as he too has a son in the flesh and is the father of souls. You would think those who love God would humbly abide in the truth written, in honor of God, rather than go the way of Rome. But the miraculous thing is that God did what he said in the Word of God, that he would redeem the people he chose to keep the written Word, even the name given the Land Israel, that they be reestablished, those who honor his word, redeemed back in the land given their fathers in truth. Jesus spoke spiritually about the spirit of the people in how they would be recognized, even in the kingdom of heaven; that those who are rich who prey upon the weak and unsuspecting, their spirit of taking advantage, even of their vital needs as to make a profit, those not being in the spirit of Truth and compassion but go the way of selfish Pride, as animals in survival of the fittest, denying the truth on some level, where their spirit is one that offends God, for these are taking advantage of his children lost, in doubt, led astray to be afflicted of the unloving ways of the world, preyed upon, even killed in lack of understanding or left to suffer because of the policies of selfishness and denial, putting fear and pride above truth, even as the many wore out their bodies laboring for the betterment of the nations, where their love given for the sake of others goes unrecognized, in the spiritual blindness of man; that they suffer poverty in old age and disability, suffering of their labors with little complaint and little rest, afflicted of the ways of the world, in the harm that comes in denying the truth on some level as to save money. These are those who labored for the nation, that their children have a foundation of comfort, which they paid for with their health and love, that the world would be better for their children, even as their children will labor for their children after them, the value not fully recognized, building upon the foundation of those who came before, yet building the kingdom, preparing for the Lords return; that the Lord makes good in good faith, in our good faith in the notes of promise given of the treasury (as the dollar) honoring the value of their labor, giving to the assets we have, printed to be used to care for His children and providing wealth in meeting the needs, even of love also; that the notes value comes from the labor honored by those of the kingdom in good faith, as the labor we do is of a greater value, only recognized in part, in the love that is given towards the prosperity of the Nation, yet falls short of the kingdom way. A Christian is a follower of Jesus, seeking the truth of the spirit in going the way of love in truth; that they may abide in his way of love in truth to receive of the benefits of the Kingdom way, even in governing, on earth and in heaven afterwards; where our children do not suffer in the ways we have taking upon in ignorance and lack of understanding, being of the ways of man in error in denying truth, going the way of unloving spirits of being that lead to error, that of suffering and fighting, rather than that of peace, love and prosperity. These are very real ways of being, of the spirits man takes upon, in the way they go about in life, even unaware, which effects the plight of our families, nations and even the world. Jesus came in the spirit of God, in his way of love, to shed light upon the ways of darkness in subtlety, that we can avoid error of that of the spiritual side of man which is of an animal like nature being uncivilized in a way, where God sent word of the spiritual truth that there is a better way, a way which gives us freedom peace and prosperity, if we could only have the tiny bit of faith to turn from the way of the unloving spirit of denial, and go the way of love in truth, even to believe we are children of God, our souls of him. We are spiritual being guided in spirit, that which most are unaware of., but to see the spirit of ones being, is to have the truth which is a path that is free from error, a way where the truth is addressed on all levels that all have peace, prosperity free from the spirits of fear and doubt, even peace of mind. The way of Jesus.
Reza Aslan is the most spurious biblical scholar around. Even amateur scholars do a much better job. Yet he keeps bitching about the lack of sophistication of atheist commentators.
1) Revolutionary armed Jesus was not a popular iconographic image in Latin America. It was an artifact of communist propaganda, maybe adopted by the revolutionary peasants, but not by the majority of peaceful peasant farmers.
2) The notion of Jesus as king is not 'european' but a biblical notion. It says it right there on the cross, Reza, "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews". Also, wasn't Jesus supposed to have a kingdom, you know, the kingdom of god?
3) Reza says there are 3 reliable "facts" about the historical Jesus, yet he does not give the textual sources and reason for this claim of historical reliability. Is he talking about the testimonium flavianum? Why does he bypass any controversy on the authenticity of that passage in Josephus? Is he talking about the epistles of Paul? In the epistles it's not clear whether Jesus is an angel or an actual person. In Galatians Paul refers to James as "the brother of the Lord", which suggests that Jesus was an actual person and that James was his brother, but that's the only reference we have for a historical Jesus in the epistles.
4) Reza then goes on to describe his search for the historical Jesus, and what do we get? References to passages of the gospels. But how do we know the gospels are historical? We don't get an answer.
5) If it was a historical reality that "the Jesus movement" was such a threat to the romans and the status quo that he got crucified, why doesn't Josephus mention Jesus in this manner? The Antiquities of the Jews are full of details and stories of the various groups and leaders that got stoned and crucified for diverse crimes, they document quarrels among the authorities of the temple (the sadducees), they mention minor religious leaders, lots of other important people called Jesus, James and Simon, but no specific reference to a crucified Jesus.
6) Also in the Jewish Wars, Josephus documented in extreme detail the revolutionary movements, revolts, uprisings and the entire history of the Zealot movement, and of the Jewish-Roman war that led to the destruction of the second temple, with no mention to a Jesus at all. Reza is getting all his data from the gospels and is smuggling them as history.
7) Reza engaged in a confirmation bias to entertain his beloved marxist reading of the gospels and of Jesus, which is basically all we're gonna get from him. After all, Marx is one of Reza's intellectual heroes (his words).
Reza has memorized the same speech which he repeats over and over and over again. So boring and repetitive! Ugh..... Don't you get tired of the same lecture?!
yet you keep coming back to him...wonder why?!
I never read any of ur books however ur talks are very interesting.What are ur sources?Having changed religion gives me the notion of
doudle mindedness?I understand ur wife is Christian and ur children learn all religions?How do u reconcile all this, in Islam shouldn't she revert to Islam?It is reported that u lied about ur credentials, why?It is also noted fhat u believe Jesus was crucified unlike Islam .....are u not a heretic?I will stick to the Jesus of the Bible, HE IS ENOUGH FOR ME.I am glad u admit that u don't have answers to everything.
Aslan stated publicly on Fox that he had a PhD in the history of religion. That's a lie. He has a PhD in sociology. His doctorate was on Jihad as a social movement, which he equates with feminism and other modern civil rights movements. Here he says you have to look at Jesus as a Jew. But, Jesus' teachings are Helenistic and very dissimilar to the Judaism either of his own time or ours. There's no evidence in the NT of Jesus being a warring zealot. Aslan promotes Islamic Jihad as a civil rights movement, but denigrates Christianity as a failed violent revolution. He wants to emphasise Jesus' "Jewishness" to alienate the audiences affections towards Christianity, which is part and parcel of Islamic culture which is ant-Jewish and anti-Christian. He also has said that Islam is peaceful and that Saudi Arabia are the most "extreme" Muslims and don't represent the overwhelming majority of Muslims. Again, this is Shia Islamic doctrine and a reflection of his Iranian heritage in which Iranians view themselves as Persians, heirs to a great civilisation, and hate Arabs. He is not just a liar and a fraud, but a uniquely Islamic/Iranian racist with a very clear agenda.
This man speaks nonsense, Muhammad did not reform the existing religion of his time, he eradicated all the existing religions of his pagan counterparts and established Islam as the religion of Arabia by the sword
if you read the quran he is called a reformer, he is referred to as the Khatimun Nabiyu, the last of messengers from God after jesus and also Quran is in islam a Furqan, the criteria to Judge right from wrong, so yes Islamically he was a big reformer, even if you dont like it :) peace out
So having sex with female captives is right? Having sex with 9 year old girls is right? Death for apostasy is right? stoning for adultery is right? forsaking your loved ones because they don't believe in your pathetic god is right? you are so deluded its not even your fault its just how you were raised and the extreme indoctrination that young Muslims get during there childhood
james thomas if only you say its right actually :)
you don't even know your own religious scriptures lol
haha you butt-hurt Christians make me laugh............all of you are soooo pathetic.
This guy is a liar...
No you're the liar.