The problem with OEM consoles is the MUST be sold at a profit. They can’t take a loss like Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft to get market share and make money from software! They HAVE to make money on the hardware.
Also it's confusing for the average consumer and imagine devs working on optimizing the games for a console. I don't see them doing this which makes me think these games will run like PC ports effectively making it a pre-built PC.
you can see how damaging xbox propaganda is with how Timdog talks about playstation being a super greedy company. PS5 came with Astro's Playroom for free, GoW Valhalla dlc was given away for free, Astro bot got speedruns, new bots and a huge Christmas level added for free, GT7 and Helldivers 2 have the fairest live service monetization in the industry, remaster upgrades available to owners for $10, and hardware margins are fair (nowhere near Nvidia's crazy graphics card margins). So lets stop acting like they're already ripping people off.
Playstation is greedy?? Why??? Because Playstation lives in the real world and they know sheet ain't free!! TimDog can miss me with that BS. lol I buy all my games, and will continue to do so!!
@@Puertorock77 yes but then the statement should be framed something like "PS has been pro-consumer this gen with how much free additional content they've given to paying customers, and that may change with less competition", but nope, its always framed like "PS is an infamously greedy company that will destroy your wallets even worse than they already are now!"
@@The_Claymores So Sony practically giving all your personal information away, including face scans & gov id, is worth Christmas dlc, a bad cheap game, and some pats on the back after Sony murdered the Helldivers community?
The reason why Timdog doesn’t see people in the community specifically content creators having an issue with what MS is doing is because they’re not trying to walk back anything in public that makes them look shameless. These guys stand on zero integrity. They don’t have the stones to do what Timdog did. They rather stay with their mob & continue to throw stones at people with opposite views
This is a phenomenal video, always quality content prock! All jokes aside, if only the hardcore fans actually listened and processed the information discussed, they would maybe understand, but the bots aint having it. Keep up the great work man!
Dude gotten so much hate because he saw the lies and poop side of Microsoft and Xbox and basically abandoned by his fans but in reality his so called Xbox fans were nothing but drones and phonies that wanted to hear lies instead of the truth smh
You just described "vote blues no matter what" and "play blue no matter whats" not the Xbox Fandom. You kid yourself if you honestly think Sony has published good games since ps2, and that Sony is smart enough to actually protect there customers data. Sony has had some of the worst data breaches in history, and its no wonder no one wants to play multiplayer Sony games outside the USA when you have to have a face scan to do it, and then that face scan is taken by hackers. This is why most the Helldivers community is gone.
27:22 What Microsoft is doing might seem unfair to their base, but I don't think Microsoft has much choice. I think it's their version of a post-bankruptcy restructuring -- meaning, if it were any other company they wouldn't have lasted this long. Due to Microsoft's size, it doesn't look like an out-and-out failure of a product to outside observers.
Now that XBOX is dead, PlayStation will go for the BIG PRIZE. PC Market. PS5 Pro is already enticing medium-class PC gamers with its better-than-average performance compared to dollars spent. In a decade or two, PlayStation could be making hardware that competes head-to-head with top gaming PC in terms of price to performance. Sony is already making more high-quality games to expand its library of great games. When you add special, unique, high-performance, cheaper alternatives to top PC hardware, PlayStation is set to be the future platform for gamers in the entire world to play games. Still, we need competition to keep the balance. I hope either Amazon, Apple, or Valve can give us that.
Only paying gamers would come, piraters will stay there tooth & nail, lol 😁we already hear jailbroken ps5 & ps4's emulation in already advance stage. I mean virtually all the library available on steam but still the piraters go for it. What is that if not unhealthy desire to gain things they don't deserve.
Nah forget the PC weirdos they have a need to spend money to configure stuff it gives them an identity because all they do is play online FPS and some weirdo jank games.
@@leelenwhite9410 No, that's not true...they are now because they wanna put their games on Playstation and Nintendo..Plus PC...before it was just PC. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ lol
At this stage if Ps want to poach more of xbox loyalist they should make demo version of Ps exclusives on Xbox, free of charge lol. Like devolver digitals, Devolverland Expo
The funny thing is when we look at the stats no one is playing black myth wukong astrobot ghost of tuishmia rise of ronin helldrivers on ps5. They playing call of duty Fortnite Minecraft gta 5 and when Indiana jones come to PlayStation it’s gonna be sign of relief. They finally get to play a new game 😂
wow giving you the option to get all their games on their service rather than have to buy them sounds like it really sucks where do you people come from!?
Have to love a 2 and 1/2 hr Pony podcast talk Xbox and explode. Can any Donkys in the chat drop me a link to an Xbox podcast that talks 99% PS and blows up??? Id love to listen to it
dude why would sony give up money with their hardware to give money away and share what they put in for nothing xbox has the money to put their games on PS and have to pay money to be on it yall dont get every game and call of duty xbox has to pay ps 30% means more games for them why would ps put god of war on xbox when nobody buy xbox games so why would ps put their games on xbox to make nothing
PlayStation isn't going to die like the Xbox. All good platforms even outside of gaming have exclusives. You think Max and Netflix don't pay for exclusives? How about Spotify and Apple? Xbots are out of touch with business. The Xbox is a floundering brand that they just want to make the money back from and that's going third party.
@@truknet thanks for the new screenshot you say some dumb things last year you said it would be the year of xbox because their road map most of the games on that roadmap didn't come out this year and some came at the end of the year playstation came out with games you can only play on playstation and xbox only had one game in the summer hellblade 2 and where is that game again here you go saying another dumb thing again
we can bring up many xbox games that failed you keep naming one a online game something they said they would do if ps is break why did they own anime in the U.S you know they are the biggest anime brand in the U.S someone who broke dont own that xbox dont own it that ps
@@TheCoolgame24You mean "you'll bring up many Xbox games that you claimed failed" some might, but it won't be on the scale of Concord and now Intergalactic.
![Blox Fruits Dragon Rework Update [Full Stream]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EqDAp8udhm0/mqdefault.jpg)
Great show with Timdog. Happy New Years everyone!
Respectfully you guys REALLY need to STOP ignoring Nintendo.
Talk about Nintendo all the time.
This was a great talk PRock, Timdog speaks from the heart, gracias mi hermano 🇵🇷.
Respect to Tim!
I’m glad even Tim dog have seen the light
yeah he jumped to a company that shut down a game in 11 days, and closed a studio they bought last year
lucky guy 😂
The problem with OEM consoles is the MUST be sold at a profit. They can’t take a loss like Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft to get market share and make money from software! They HAVE to make money on the hardware.
Also it's confusing for the average consumer and imagine devs working on optimizing the games for a console. I don't see them doing this which makes me think these games will run like PC ports effectively making it a pre-built PC.
That was a great show! Timdog has allot of insights
that was a very very good show
you can see how damaging xbox propaganda is with how Timdog talks about playstation being a super greedy company. PS5 came with Astro's Playroom for free, GoW Valhalla dlc was given away for free, Astro bot got speedruns, new bots and a huge Christmas level added for free, GT7 and Helldivers 2 have the fairest live service monetization in the industry, remaster upgrades available to owners for $10, and hardware margins are fair (nowhere near Nvidia's crazy graphics card margins). So lets stop acting like they're already ripping people off.
Playstation is greedy?? Why??? Because Playstation lives in the real world and they know sheet ain't free!! TimDog can miss me with that BS. lol I buy all my games, and will continue to do so!!
He’s talking about where PlayStation might be in a world with zero competition.
@Puertorock77 Ahh, ok Prock. 👍🏽
@@Puertorock77 yes but then the statement should be framed something like "PS has been pro-consumer this gen with how much free additional content they've given to paying customers, and that may change with less competition", but nope, its always framed like "PS is an infamously greedy company that will destroy your wallets even worse than they already are now!"
@@The_Claymores So Sony practically giving all your personal information away, including face scans & gov id, is worth Christmas dlc, a bad cheap game, and some pats on the back after Sony murdered the Helldivers community?
The reason why Timdog doesn’t see people in the community specifically content creators having an issue with what MS is doing is because they’re not trying to walk back anything in public that makes them look shameless. These guys stand on zero integrity.
They don’t have the stones to do what Timdog did. They rather stay with their mob & continue to throw stones at people with opposite views
Great show PRock. Good to see the OGs together
Any show that talks 99% Xbox is a great show 🤡
@ 😩 wah waaaaaah. That’s how you sound.
This is a phenomenal video, always quality content prock! All jokes aside, if only the hardcore fans actually listened and processed the information discussed, they would maybe understand, but the bots aint having it. Keep up the great work man!
Dude gotten so much hate because he saw the lies and poop side of Microsoft and Xbox and basically abandoned by his fans but in reality his so called Xbox fans were nothing but drones and phonies that wanted to hear lies instead of the truth smh
Exactly. 🤷🏽♂️
@ um ok whatever that’s supposed to mean 👍
You just described "vote blues no matter what" and "play blue no matter whats" not the Xbox Fandom. You kid yourself if you honestly think Sony has published good games since ps2, and that Sony is smart enough to actually protect there customers data. Sony has had some of the worst data breaches in history, and its no wonder no one wants to play multiplayer Sony games outside the USA when you have to have a face scan to do it, and then that face scan is taken by hackers. This is why most the Helldivers community is gone.
@@lancer737 ok xbot 👍 and btw Helldivers 2 took best multiplayer shooter from cod so sit on that and let it hurt 😂
@@romanknight9074 Its a PC game, so your statement is meaningless. Also you're incredible ignorant allowing sony to give anyone your face scans.
Great show!
The only problem with ps3 is lack of ram just image a ps5 with the ps3 multimedia features it would be sick
Have A Blessed Holiday fellas n to families Great Podcast as Usual😊😊😊
27:22 What Microsoft is doing might seem unfair to their base, but I don't think Microsoft has much choice. I think it's their version of a post-bankruptcy restructuring -- meaning, if it were any other company they wouldn't have lasted this long. Due to Microsoft's size, it doesn't look like an out-and-out failure of a product to outside observers.
Digging the show
Hey yo shout from North Carolina, P-Rock
I love the psp it was at the right place and the right time an era before iPhones
Yes I boa lot of physical movies for it since the time I traveled a lot
Great talk, I always love the content PRock.
PS I’m gonna go to Puerto Rico again in 2025, I’m going to see if my opinion has changed on Mofongo 😂
I bought a ps4 at launch lol I buy everything Sony cue they have quality products and there tvs retain value They last forever lol
Just bought my son the Sony Bravia 3 that has special perks for his PS5 and he's loving it. 👍🏽
Now that XBOX is dead, PlayStation will go for the BIG PRIZE. PC Market. PS5 Pro is already enticing medium-class PC gamers with its better-than-average performance compared to dollars spent. In a decade or two, PlayStation could be making hardware that competes head-to-head with top gaming PC in terms of price to performance. Sony is already making more high-quality games to expand its library of great games. When you add special, unique, high-performance, cheaper alternatives to top PC hardware, PlayStation is set to be the future platform for gamers in the entire world to play games. Still, we need competition to keep the balance. I hope either Amazon, Apple, or Valve can give us that.
Only paying gamers would come, piraters will stay there tooth & nail, lol 😁we already hear jailbroken ps5 & ps4's emulation in already advance stage. I mean virtually all the library available on steam but still the piraters go for it. What is that if not unhealthy desire to gain things they don't deserve.
Nah forget the PC weirdos they have a need to spend money to configure stuff it gives them an identity because all they do is play online FPS and some weirdo jank games.
What up I thought we was boys how come I not in this group chat? Lol
Xbox copying sega playbook trying to be third party real quick
Xbox been 3rd part since xbox 1 now so what are you talking about same with playstation
@@leelenwhite9410 No, that's not true...they are now because they wanna put their games on Playstation and Nintendo..Plus PC...before it was just PC. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ lol
God i miss system wars....
Lol as someone who frequented system wars on gamespot, those were the smartest fanboys ive evwr interacted with
At this stage if Ps want to poach more of xbox loyalist they should make demo version of Ps exclusives on Xbox, free of charge lol. Like devolver digitals, Devolverland Expo
Great show p and Tim happy brother Tim fanliy saw the through lies of phil and his clown crew
The funny thing is when we look at the stats no one is playing black myth wukong astrobot ghost of tuishmia rise of ronin helldrivers on ps5. They playing call of duty Fortnite Minecraft gta 5 and when Indiana jones come to PlayStation it’s gonna be sign of relief. They finally get to play a new game 😂
That goes both ways. Xbox has those same games.
@ call of duty Xbox game Minecraft a Xbox game Indiana jones Xbox game. What top game being played is a PlayStation game? Meaning own by PlayStation?
@@rodeyrevengeclassic giving microsoft credit for success of games they didn't make
Xbox sucks, i havent bought a single xbox game this gen, i just subscribe to ganepass 3-4 months out of the year to play whatever is exclusive.
PS is Dead ⚰️💀 kid 🤣
wow giving you the option to get all their games on their service rather than have to buy them sounds like it really sucks
where do you people come from!?
These Xbox guys on the internet crying about the PS5 Pro price, wait until they see the price of a Samsung, Dell, or Acer Xbox is about to cost. 😂
Even Timdog knows that Boomstick is disingenuous and full of 💩
oh look the one who said cod wasn't coming to gamepass and the clown who believed him 😂
the timdog curse is real
good luck ponies 😂
Have to love a 2 and 1/2 hr Pony podcast talk Xbox and explode. Can any Donkys in the chat drop me a link to an Xbox podcast that talks 99% PS and blows up??? Id love to listen to it
Stop crying it's embarrassing 🎉
I’m not a PlayStation podcast. If you want a good one I suggest What’s Up PlayStation Podcast.
Double barrel gaming🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
When Sony does the same move in the very near future, keep the Same energy, thats all!🤷♂️
@@truknet what energy? I don't think crying....seething ....and coping like the xbots count......or does it🤭🤠
dude why would sony give up money with their hardware to give money away and share what they put in for nothing xbox has the money to put their games on PS and have to pay money to be on it yall dont get every game and call of duty xbox has to pay ps 30% means more games for them why would ps put god of war on xbox when nobody buy xbox games so why would ps put their games on xbox to make nothing
PlayStation isn't going to die like the Xbox. All good platforms even outside of gaming have exclusives. You think Max and Netflix don't pay for exclusives? How about Spotify and Apple? Xbots are out of touch with business. The Xbox is a floundering brand that they just want to make the money back from and that's going third party.
@mikegutierrez7278 None of that going on over here, bruh!
@@truknet thanks for the new screenshot you say some dumb things last year you said it would be the year of xbox because their road map most of the games on that roadmap didn't come out this year and some came at the end of the year playstation came out with games you can only play on playstation and xbox only had one game in the summer hellblade 2 and where is that game again here you go saying another dumb thing again
Pony 🐴 cope session 🤣
More like bot denial in your case with facts
@@DribbleP You Ponies coping 🥲 got me CTFU LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
@@Retro_Gamer_89 whenever a drone use the word cope is when they got nothing to say 😂
@@romanknight9074 Y'all Big Mad 😡 PS is 🗑️🤣 PS won the battle Xbox won the War get over it kid and stop coping 🥹😭🤣
@ thanks for proving my point using the same word and making up more lies go figure another L 👏👏👏 too easy 🫡
You Ponies are hurt 🤕🥹 PS is Dead they're broke because you Ponies don't buy their games caugh "Concord" 🤣
@@Retro_Gamer_89 says the Xbox fan🤡🤡🤡😂🤣😂🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂🤦🏾♂️😂🤣😂🤣😬🤡🤡🤡🤡😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂 #StockholmSyndrome
@ThaGeneralify How's Concord you 🤡🤣
@@Retro_Gamer_89 concord lives rent free in your head.......defensive mechanism because Xbox ain't cutting it?
we can bring up many xbox games that failed you keep naming one a online game something they said they would do if ps is break why did they own anime in the U.S you know they are the biggest anime brand in the U.S someone who broke dont own that xbox dont own it that ps
@@TheCoolgame24You mean "you'll bring up many Xbox games that you claimed failed" some might, but it won't be on the scale of Concord and now Intergalactic.