The Drydock - Episode 074
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- 00:00:18 - Channel Admin
00:01:27 - What if HMS Royal Oak wasn't sunk?
00:07:27 - Would Bismarck have been built if the first-gen 1920's ships had been built?
00:09:30 - Jutland if Jellicoe had received the correct intelligence?
00:17:01 - Midships main battery turrets?
00:24:59 - RN Flag Colours
00:30:03 - Original Dardenelles plan working?
00:35:16 - Gun turret crew survivability
00:38:47 - Operation Crossroads Lessons
00:43:57 - Top 10 'The Ugliest Non-French Warships of All Time'
00:47:24 - Extremely unlucky warships
00:48:37 - Laird's Ram's in action
00:51:33 - 1) If you could go to each major navies's respective drawing boards in 1936 what procurement/refit choices would you make to prepare for WW2? e.g force HMS Hood's refit, redesign Bismarck etc 2) Have you watched the anime High School Fleet? If not do you plan to? 3) Between the Australia Squadron and the Imperial Japanese Navy who was in a better position to intercept Von Spee in 1914?
00:56:08 - Greenboy shell changes and improvements
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Would the danish navy have posed a threat to the royal navy, had the battle and bombing of copenhagen not taken place?
Can you talk about the ins and outs of firecontrol systems? As in how they're linked to the turrets, remote power control, how the guns are actually fired (Is it really a 'trigger' like seen in the movies?), all that kind of stuff? I recall seeing a piece of media about an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer and there was a physical trigger (like a gun with a cable attached to it) to fire the gun from a remote location other than the turret. Did battleships in WWII and before have something similar? Also, how was the firecontrol computer linked to the remote power control on ships that had it, specifically ships with RPC on training and elevation, especially on ships with RADAR firecontrol? Was it as 'simple' as director finds range, points guns with RPC, firecontrol computer does calculations, elevates guns, pull a trigger to fire?
The specifications for SMS Blücher seems similar to those of later treaty era heavy cruisers; How would she have fared in the post war enviroment of naval treaties, assuming she survived the war?
How would the kriegsmarine be formed if they were allowed to keep the 2 finished bayern class battleships instead of the 2 pre-dreadnoughts
Drachinifel considering your recent trend of more unnoticed topics in a warship like the power plant and armor layout I would like to ask how are heavy caliber naval guns manufactured and the process behind said manufacture
47:15 "a rather gormless face looking forward going uunnnnhhhhhhh"
Brilliant now I can't un-see that, thanks Drach, Zumwalts ruined for me now! 😂
@@johnlowther4068 ?
I think we just unearthed a goldmine of Drachisms. The entire section of his picks for ugliest non-French warships was just one Drachism after another. You never disappoint, Drach.
When I hear a question like that, I smile and think "Oh boy. Here it comes."
Many of those ships look like someone took all the leftover bits and stuck them together
@@cadams1921 Some remind me of what would result if you mix an erector set, three marine engineer/architects and about 750 micrograms of acid for each.
@@sundiver137 HMS Shroom
Zumwalt goes “buuuuuuh.” Drach, 2019.
Dude, you, The Chieftain, and Ian (Gun Jesus) should have a round table talking about all sorts of guns and armor.
45:30 "IKEA called. They want that KALAX cube back"!
I died =)
I've finally caught up!!
I've listened to all of the extant "Drydock" episodes!!
Now on to the guides and specials!
The last Drydock for 2019 (sigh) Thanks for all your hard work in giving we naval history buffs our weekly reason to live :)
And we'll be here in 2020 for more educational video on one of our favorite subjects
The 10 ugliest non french ships was amusing. Poor French ships do nave a reputation before the beautiful shi[s bruilt just before WW2.
Okay at around 20:00 and just before, you display a picture of the Italian dreadnought, Conti Di Cavour, whilst explaining the placement of a midships Q turret.
The burning question is this: given how superstitious sailors are (no matter which navy or merchant fleet) how on earth did the Italians manage to get a crew to serve aboard a ship with 13 main guns?
I'm envisioning a crew of Italian sailors aboard positively festooned with religious medals. Rosaries, crucifixes with a garlic necklace thrown in for good measure.
I love these drydocks. whenever I wake up at night and can't fall asleep I queue them up on SoundCloud and then doze off dreaming about world war II and ships at sea.
The contamination from wet fallout on steel was another important find from crossroads, washing didn't get it off.
- Optimus Prime's Uglier Cousin, lol. Yeah, my thought as well, it's already got the feet at the back, the funnels turn into the arms, etc, lol.
- HMS Blake, they stuck the front of a freight ship on the back is my thought, lol.
- USS Long Beach, Superstructure of Doom covered in modern art deco, lol. Calyx cube, that works, rofl.
- HMS Scorpion, looks like a seaworthiness test, to verify the fate of the HMS Captian, Hmm.
- Russian Cruiser Askold, Scolding the enemy with more stacks for the thickest smoke screen possible, maybe. Aside from something about not enough funnels to act as AA guns, eh, it's a ship at least.
- Zumwalts, did someone loos a ski boot in the ocean, lol. And yes, I do see an Easter Island Moai statue on the front of the ski boot gussett, lol.
HMS Blake - is the ensign flying from the stern of the ship or the bow?
I personally like the way the zumwalts look
While I agree that Fuso rival’s my nonexistent stepsister in terms of ugly, I think Yamashiro looks pretty cool
Just listening to this on way down to Portsmouth historic naval dockyard. Always enjoy visiting, but wouldn't it be amazing if HMS Vanguard or Warspite was on display. Oh well, we can dream.
@Drach - thanks for all the hours of enjoyment and interest you have brought this year. Have a great 2020! Looking forward to your US videos
Interesting topics today!
Your descriptions of the ugly ships are gold.
Post-conversion HMS Blake looks like they cut two ships in half, then welded the front ends to each other like James May's stretch limousine from the old Top Gear episode....
It has take about 4 days but I have listened to all dry docks.
Thank you for all of your videos and dry docks, they have been an eye opener and very informative, good luck with your U. S. Trip and roll on 2020.
51:33 Three questions and you take them in order instead of in reverse? Who are you and where's the real Drach?
One too many Terry's Choclate Oranges, and this is what happens.
The heresy is appalling.
Very informative. Excellent program
A great Drachism at 18:40 - "Triple turrets were not a thing in the sort of very early part of the first half of the 1900s...." Reminds me of a Stephen Fry quote: "He was not unaware of it's potential lack of insignificance....."
45:35 The famous IJN Jenga
Brilliant!
Thanks for the laugh.
I cheered out loud when you mentioned pushing the dolt who messed up the Mk 14 torpedo off a bridge. Got me some odd looks at the office admittedly.
you realise if you ever change the intro-audio for this there will be a riot?
Leo look forward to it every week
Leo i always fast forward past it. It makes me want to cut my ears off. Hate it to death. If I catch a split second of it it ruins the video for me
A celebration.
@@verysurvival
The intro is actually a lot better than say modern rap.... That stuff makes my ears bleed.
And now i cant unsee the face on the Zumwalts.
I LOVE the narration here. The quiet humor you inject in commenting on poor designs has me laughing out loud!
HOLY SHIT I DID NOT EXPECT TO SEE THE CSS HUNLEY HERE
47:15 Before: no, not before you pointed it out. now: can't unsee.
The lack of safety measures contributed to the Iowa disaster. The doors between the gun rooms weren't secured so the blast went thru the entire turret. If you notice, the barrel shroud was blown off which was a safety valve for such an incident.
Great stuff. Happy new year to you.
Have you considered doing a video on The Battle of Sinop?
Considering how it is such a pivotal battle and largely unknown in the west even though it changed the face of naval warfare the viewers might find it interesting.
Fuso looks glorious.
47:20 You've forever ruined the Zumwalt class destroyer in my mind. Duuurrr!
30:06 "Horrendous Casualties" is pretty much the textbook definition of the events of World War One in total. I'm rather surprised that the Royal Navy showed ANY good sense since it seems absolutely no one else involved did. I mean really, using Napoleonic era Infantry tactics in the Industrial age against artillery & machine guns is insane.
No one was using Napleonic tactics in WWI...
There was actually a constant and rapid evolution of infantry tactics throughout the war, with something of an arms race between defensive and offensive doctrine. Casualties were horrific, but it certainly wasn't for lack of innovation and adaptation.
WWI spawned modern infantry small-unit tactics.
@@TheHaighus I hate to break it to you, but advancing line abreast towards your opponent while they shoot you IS the heart of Napoleonic infantry tactics. Doing that in front of several heavily enplaced water cooled machine guns is a recipe for the obliteration of an infantry formation. World War 1 spawned modern small unit infantry tactics by necessity, NO ONE could afford to sustain the losses that occurred on the Western Front between 1914 and late 1916. The "Over The Top", line abreast change didn't stop until EVERYONE'S high command's finely accepted that was a losing tactic, & the Americans never really stopped until July-August 1918. The evolution of small unit tactics occurred because no one but the Americans had the numbers left to do so.
@@ovk-ih1zp I hate to break it to you, but even 1914 the infantry lines were a lot looser than at Napoleonic times and not really comparable. Add to that that people were able to shoot while prone, etc, and tactics are not that similar anymore. Even salvo fire went out of fashion.
4:25 From the only stuff I’ve found about them, they were apparently experimental torpedo-tubes. I always found them quite interesting, along with her overall appearance at the time (especially the bridge structure) when compared to her sisters.
Darn it Drach.. I like Yamashiro and Askold for that matter!
HA I served with the Reserve on HMS Caroline for 12 years ended up training the New Entry...my old office is a staff tea room now! 🤔😀
USN procurement choices in 1936. That is a "target rich environment", especially BuOrd. It wasn't just the ineffective Mk 14 detonators. The air launched Mk 13 torp suffered multiple failure modes including the motor not starting, sinking, running too deep and running erratically. In a live fire exercise in the summer of 41, of 10 Mk 13s fired, only 1 ran hot, straight and normal. Once BuOrd was convinced the failures were not all pilot error and went to work, the faults were corrected and the Mk 13 was an excellent weapon, by late 44. Then there was the 1.1" AA gun. Looked good on paper, liquid cooling and an automatic ammo feed system so it could fire continuously, with a larger shell and greater range than the 25mm AA guns then available. But the 1.1" had multiple jam modes, plus the human factors issue of not having adequate room for the loaders to do their job. The Navy produced a color newsreel film about Midway that has several short looks at a couple 1.1s, firing. In the first 3 looks, the 1.1" in the foreground is blasting away with all 4 guns and looking very formidable. In the 4th glimpse, only the gun on the right end is firing, the other three are all stopped. The 1.1's faults were never corrected. If BuOrd was not going to conduct adequate development programs and deliver reliable weapons, they should have overcome their "not invented here" bias and bought weapons from other services. so we would have gone into the war with Brit Mk VIIIs in subs, Brit Mk XIIs in aircraft, and Bofors AA guns.
44:12 -- RE: The Italian Monitor; Looks like something that Megaman's arch-nemisis, Dr. Wily, cooked up. "The only way to defeat the Italian Monitor Boss is to use the Lead Bubble, and wall jumping."
44:45 -- "Somebody stole a paddle steamer...." -- *LULZ!* No No, that paddle wheel and boiler fell off the back of a lorry, mate.
38:47. We learned that if you nuke a fish, it can perform it's own X-ray.
yeah, that was epic Drachism, lol.
(on the status of test-recording instrumentation) "potentially has ceased existence on this mortal realm".
How many cat's would you need for a cat scan ?
@@nimrodquimbus912 3.6......(Chernobyl reference)
or 3 mile Island. Fukushima sushi
43:57 The Drachest question of all time.
Guns, Armor, Mobility.
These are the Big Three in Armored Vehicle design . . . there are other qualities desireable for a warship, of course, top of the list for which is something called "Freeboard". Eriksson's Monitors, designed for coastal and riverine work, dispensed with Freeboard, to their ultimate peril.
On the Lairds Ram question; a number of the Union monitors sported 8 inch rifles, notably the Onondaga. Given that the Union monitors often had as much a 12 inches of armor, it seems like a fight might be more even that Drachinifel suggest if Union Monitors were present. (See Arms and Equipment of the Civil War by Jack Coggins)
17:20 There's something disconcerting about a ship carrying 13 main guns (in the layout of the Italian ship) ...
I can't understand the strange American superstition about the number 13. A friend tells me it even extends to cruise ships where the decks are numbered... 11, 12, 14. It's doubly strange that the western country with the highest percentage of practicing Christians has this pagan superstition. I wonder where it came from?
In Italy is 17 to bear bad omen.
There is a naval urban legend that goes something like this; the Royal Navy decided to launch and commission a ship on Friday the 13th and complement her with a crew who were all born on Friday the 13th. Ship set sail and was never seen again.
Another naval urban legend it's that USS Franklin CV13 is supposed to have another bunch of 13's associated with her, wish I still have that list.
@@Dave_Sisson it's not pagan, it's the number of people at the Last Supper (Jesus plus the 12 Apostles).
@@kemarisite The superstition goes all the way back to at least Hammurabi 1754 B.C. and he was a pagan.
Q&A Not sure if you covered this, but what would the impact have been for the U.S. Navy if say Baltimore, Alaska, or even the Des Moines class cruisers earlier in the war. Just a random thought I had. Great job. Happy Sunday morning from the west coast.
Under the heading of unlucky ships, HMCS Athabascan (G07) had quite the reputation for being THE unlucky RCN ship. She spent much of her short service life (14 months) being repaired (5 months) after various mishaps in each cruise. She was the only Canadian Tribal destroyer sunk in action, being torpedoed in the English Channel in April 1944.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Athabaskan_(G07)
It's been 30 years so I can at least say something. I was not aboard the Iowa when the turret exploded, but I knew some of the men personally that were killed- they were gunners mates and FC's that I had been to schools with and we kept in touch. First, the official US Navy report stated that it was intentional; and that a homosexual relationship between the gun captain and one of the gun crew was the reason for the explosion. Bull shit. A month or so before the incident, the battle group was in port in the Philippines. We 2nd Division folks tended to hang out at a particular dive on Magsaysay; and we were having drinks and just griping about things, and one of the folks at the bar was GM2 Hartwig- the gun captain of the turret that exploded on the Iowa. He'd had a few, just like we all had, and began to bitch about the powder.
During the refit of the Iowa class in the 80's, many of the 16" barrels were replaced. However, the USA had not manufactured a 16" gun since 1944. But they still had spares- sitting preserved in some warehouse. These barrels were used in the refits where applicable. At the same time, they also still has a huge stockpile of bags of powder for said guns that also dated from the same period. After some 40+ years, the powder; though still volatile, had settled and compacted. Hartzig reported that it was unsuitable for use. But he was ORDERED to, 'break up' the bags and place additional detonators in them to ensure they exploded properly.
...And when, about a month later, they found his body where he would have to have been to place the detonators; the Navy came up with their 'local homosexual conspiracy' so that the brass would not have to admit he was commanded to perform the duty that resulted in the explosion.
The Iowa turret explosion is a good example of why the Navy, and in particular the NIS, should never be permitted to perform a major investigation that involves the death of crewmen. The Navy abandoned the homosexual murder/suicide explanation by 1991, but that wouldn't have happened without the involvement of the Senate, especially Senator Sam Nunn, and Sandia National Labs. It was only the involvement of Sandia that showed the Navy's explanation couldn't be true, and that some combination of overram and powder defects was the only reasonable explanation for the disaster. However, the Navy fell back on a "cause unknown" finding when it was clear their preferred explanation was no longer tenable.
The Navy did everything they could to obstruct and discredit the Sandia investigation when it became clear that it was going to find unauthorized powder experiments by Master Chief Skelley was the most likely cause of the explosion. Under the command of Captain Moosally, Iowa was a ship with very poor command and control, very poor morale, and a marked tendency for sailors like Skelley to convince Moosally he could do something that would bring positive publicity to Iowa and Moosally. In Skelley's case, it was to have Iowa go down in the record books with the longest range conventional shot ever fired. It was Skelley's "experiments" that most likely led to the premature open breach detonation that killed the 47 members of Turret 2. The ship's command staff allowed evidence in the investigation to be contaminated and destroyed right from day one. The NIS, rather than operating as an independent investigation force, did as they were told by the command staff of the ship and of the Navy. There have been changes in the NIS to allow it to be more independent of pressure by those in command, but it's not possible that any unit that's part of the Navy to do a truly independent investigation when the results of the investigation could reflect poorly on the Navy. Any investigation of a serious incident in any service should be conducted by a new criminal investigation agency not in the line of command and not beholden to that branch of the service for promotion or retention.
Happens everywhere, but I expect that after thirty years, things would have changed. Last year, the Norwegian frigate "KNM Helge Ingstad", collided with the freighter "Sola TS", and sank. Until the official report came on November 8th 2019, there were plenty of speculations, like female officers in charge; no-one in charge, due to changing of watch; drunken pilot etc. But, as always, there were a serie of things that went wrong. In short, it could, and should, have been avoided, but due to the cirkumstances. Main reasons:
- The bridge crew were fairly green, and thought they had control (sounds familiar...?).
- The deck lights of the freighter.
- The coastal Administration had not done sufficient to enforce proper surveilance.
- "KNM Helge Ingstad had turned off the AIS.
At least in Norway there is no way, or at least hardly possible, to blame someone else for their own mistakes, due to an open sosciety. If caught, they are forced to resign, of even dismissed. It doesn't matter who you are, or who you know....
However, the reason for speculations, was that the RNoN would not give any inforfation, before the result of the official inquiery was clear....
@@Lassisvulgaris This was a much different incident. Since it was a collision with a civilian ship, all the usual maritime safety agencies were involved. No one died in the accident, and there were only minor injuries on both sides. There were too many independent investigations for the navy to maintain control of the findings. The same result would have occured in the US. "Open society" has nothing to do with it.
The explosion on the Iowa was a completely navy involved accident. Those that died were Navy sailors. Blame for the deaths was going to be placed, and the navy's goal was to make sure it didn't reflect badly on the navy itself. Since those conducting the investigation were also navy, they were able to keep control of things until the Senate Armed Services Committee got involved. I guarantee you that a similar incident in the Norwegian Navy would have involved the same kind of stonewalling and coverup.
@@sarjim4381 You are partly right. There was actually another incident, in 1986, where 31 combat engineers (and three BV-202s) were caught by an avalance in Vassdalen, during the Anchor Express NATO Exercise. 16 soldiers died as a result, making this the larges loss in peace-time.
Despite several warnings, these were ignored, and the platoon was sent into Vassdalen, where it was caught in the avalanche.
In this case, a government-held inquery in 1987 aquitted ALL of the responsible officers. The Armed Forces were heavily criticised afterwards, especially by the families. However, after the inquiery, the brigade-commander, Col. Pran, claimed that he "never received the avalanche-experts warning, and was not aware that a platoon was advancing into the area". He was heavily affected by the accident, took full responsibility, then resigned.
In 2016, the platoon's 2IC, said in an interview, that "leaders have, in retrospect evaded the truth, or ran away from responsibility".
Like you, I am a veteran, with 13 months in the RNoN (1988/89), 6 months as a peace-keeper in Lebanon (1989), and a total of 30 years in the National Home Guard (HV), including 5 years as a platoon sergeant, and 15 years as platoon commander. I know how it feels to lose comrades, espescially due to stupid accidents. I also know that communication is the first to break down. As ex-navy, you know the importance of being informed, to be able to perform your duty.
However, my main point was that cover-ups, lead to speculation. At least here, the Vassdalen-accident, lead to stricter safety, and voe to the leader or soldier, who is not updated, or who is neglecting the rules. The secong thing. is that is has become much harder to evade responsibility, as everything is defined in advance. The third, and most important, is that a leader is not to give irresponsible orders, and that soldiers are allowed, under certain circumstances, to refuse, or at least, give an oppinion. If then something goes wrong, one knows where the responsibility lies. That said, Norway has still got consciption, so handeling of soldiers, is different. It's getting more professionalized, so volunteers is a different kettle of fish.....
Good luck to you, and thanks....
@@sarjim4381 I never met Chief Skelley- though Hartwig, Truitt and others of the Iowa's 2nd division did talk about him with a pitcher of mojo in front of them (I was 2nd division attached to the USS Henry B Wilson at the time). So what I do know is second hand and through an alcohol haze. Know that US sailors on liberty typically don't talk about their captain but rather their more immediate superiors- their chiefs, division officers and such. Hartwig did say that his orders to add the detonators, as well as the order to beat the bags with dogging wrenches to make them supple, came through Chief Skelley. However, Hartwig stated at the time that, "Chief's having me add &^%^*& det's in the bags 'cause the damn Navy is too cheap to get some new *&%$*^ powder!!!" Master Chief Skelley was just following his orders to figure out how to make this old powder usable again. It wasn't some kind of new powder or crazy experimentation going on.
19:47 And it was also considered in one of the Colorado preliminaries. But due to budgetary reasons it was scrapped. Imagine that, a triple superfiring Colorado. That would have been quite the sight.
Concerning Fuso's "ugly" pagoda superstructure. There was a pair of certain RN tankers someone had the rather unaesthetic idea of putting 16" guns in a 3x3 all front turret layout on them. ;)
While I would agree with Drach's assessment of Fusou's pagoda, I found Yamashiro's to be the most aesthetically pleasing of all the IJN battleship rebuilds. Probably because of how the base of the pagoda looks intact on Yamashiro, whereas on Fusou there's a huge chunk taken out to make room for the repositioned P turret's forward-facing barrels.
@@RedXlV Yep, Ivan agree. None of the refitted pagoda masts can compare to Yamato’s purposes built pagoda mast in my opinion, though
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That wasn’t a pagoda mast. That was a tower mast and was closer to the masts found on American fast battleships structurally.
@@bkjeong4302 Oh
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The great irony of the Yamatos is that they were far closer to the American fast battleships in design than any other non-American battleship, and they all but abandoned the design characteristics of all previous Japanese battleship designs.
Everything from the AoN armour layout with an emphasis on deck protection, the bulbous bow (albeit the Yamatos took this further) and the straight-sided midsection for improved hydrodynamics, the 27-28kt speed (also characteristic of WWII-gen American battleship with the exception of the Iowas), the mast structures, the main armament arrangement, focus on long-range gunnery to the point the intended combat ranges were unrealistic, the unusually good maneuverability for a capital ship….all much more characteristic of American fast battleships than to traditional Japanese designs.
On that 1936 question, I'll give the USN General Board and C&R a thumping too. 36 is too early to prevent resources being wasted on the Alaska class cruisers, but it's just about right to have the Tennessee and Colorado class BBs updated into something useful in a mid 30s threat environment. As Drach's boiler video went into, boilers were much more capable in the mid 30s, than 20 years earlier, when the Tennessees and Colorados were designed. Use the space freed up by eliminating the motor-generator sets to install larger turbines to use the greater boiler output and they could produce a decent turn of speed. Being short and fat, they will not be efficient at speed, but then the length/width ratio was actually slightly higher than the also short and fat 27kt South Dakotas. Then a new superstructure and AA suite like West Virginia had after it's rebuild. If the budget was not available for the work, then i would lay up the Wyomings, New Yorks, Nevadas and Pennsylvanias to reduce running costs to make the funds available to C&R for the rebuilds. Just because the treaties allowed those old hulks to be run, doesn't mean they need to be run at the expense of improving newer, more capable, ships.
Q&A If the Blue Ensign was in the Australia what was the reason that Canada got the Red Ensign as its National flag until it was changed to the maple leaf?
Please note, Sir, that the only reason I excluded French ships from the list was to require you to actually think about it- Had I asked you for simply the ugliest, five or six of them (or more) would have been French pre-dreadnoughts.
actually, most of them ARE a lot uglier than french pre-dreadnoughts...
@@Bird_Dog00 eh
I retraced u-47’s route in silent hunter3 on four separate war patrols, it was not profitable in terms of tonnage, i got stuck on block ships sand bars and even was forced to engage shore batteries with my type IXB’s 105mm, but when scapa is full it is stuffed with capital ships
Also sunk nelson and rodney in one patrol caught nelly in escort south of ireland and ran down to Gibraltar after to deal with rodney trying to save bisco
The front of the Zumwalt's bridge kinda looks like a Cylon....
"Would Bismarck have been built if the first-gen 1920's ships had been built?"
Oh great, now we need to do an alt-hist of the Scharnhorst refitted with 18 inch guns!
3 guns
I seem to remember the North Carolina's turrets to be open when I last visited. No Divisions between the guns. Is my memory faulty?
"Clearing by contact detonation" nice lol
I actually like the looks of the Fuso-class' pagoda mast
I think that when mentioning ugly ships, the Albany class of guided missile cruisers of the Cold War deserve a mention. They were pretty ugly, not the ugliest, but for me the worst is that they were converted from Baltimore and Oregon City-class heavy cruisers which were beautiful.
Question: If battleship-sized gun technology had continued to develop, what kind of improvements could have been implemented? What would be the specs and capabilities of a modern 16 inch naval gun?
Likely it would have gone along similar lines to smaller caliber guns so, auto loaders, smart ammunition, better accuracy things like that
@@themadhammer3305 I kind of wondered if the Des Moines gun systems could be adapted to larger guns. Also if the guns could be made safer.
About the Zumwalt... Thanks for pointing that out - because I haven't noticed it before - but I really wish you didn't. If anything that "face" makes it IMO more terryfying because now in that bridge I see the Groke from Moomin stories. The horror... The horror
Regarding white/red/blue ensigns I have an old book from the 1970s which states that British merchant ships commanded by former RN officers are entitled to fly the blue ensign rather than the red ensign. According to Wkipedia, it can also be flown by civilian research vessels operating under a Royal warrant, and by British registered yachts owned by members of certain yacht clubs.
Beatty!
A truly ghastly man, how on earth did he get to the position that he occupied?
As the Q&A section has not been created yet by our OVERLORD, let me start the list:
Q&A: Development of naval Firecontrol 1900 - 1940: The UK had their devices like the Dreyer's system or the Pollen's designs: 1) how did those work and influence actual installed equipment 2) How did the other major navies develop their equivalents?
Ok Drach. I usually don't disagree with you so strongly. The Askold is an AWE-SOME looking cruiser. Yes, it has a virtual forest of stacks, but that's what makes it so cool - and also caused British sailors to nickname it the Pack of Players.
Happy New Year everyone!
Hmm, I remember somewhere they said If you nuked a warship, it would survive but become heavily radiated and effectively become a ghost ship.
"HMS Scorpion and women... their breasts work"
Ah auto'sub's... got to love 'em XD.
How should we choose what flag to use?
Form a committee!
Scissors paper stone would have sorted that out with a lot less hot air.
No a fan of High School fleet, but I really likes, Arpeggio, KanColle & Azur Lane.
Happy New Year Drachinifel! Now for a question: What if Admiral Beatty hadn't been in command of the battle cruisers at Jutland? In fact what if he had never been made an admiral? It just seems to me that Beatty was never that good of an admiral, and missed too many opportunities to defeat the German navy.
Love your channel.....Truly.
Question..
Has the shipwreck/graves desecration for metal affected historiography ? It's a growing issue.
Just curious...relevant or not..
Thanks
As to the Dardenelles question, I'm SURE this has been pointed out, but at the time it was still officially named Constantinople.
What was the Iowa’a intended turret design? Was it 18” guns or a longer barreled 16” with better shells? It was covered somewhere I forget where though
at the time of Crossroads, wasn't there only one nuclear test, Trinity (if you don't cound hiroshima/nagasaki as nuclear weapons tests)?
Hi 2 questions- Have you thought about doing a video on the atomic tests? aka looking at all the damage to all the ships? 2, Did Bismarck have the same radar Graf Spee had? or? and sometimes I lie, 3 would you do a video on the main battery tests the Iowa did on the uss pennsylvania??
I like how British admirals have color ranks similar to wizards from lord of the rings .
I think you have the order backwards. It's a shame JRR isn't still around to ask him.
44:53 that’s seaspray not Optimus prime
Boats and ships transformers
Broadside aircraft carrier and jet mode
Seaspray propeller boat
Q&A. Do you think reactive armor could be feasible on a warship? Example putting it on say a destroyer or cruiser?
Nope.
To elaborate on Walter's reply, reactive armor exists specifically to disrupt shaped charge warheads, although some versions have a thicker face plate to try to break up long-rod penetrators. Neither type of warhead has ever been used on ship shells, so there is no point in using reactive armor. While some large anti-shipping missiles have shaped-charge warheads, those are very unusual and so large (1,000 kg) that it's hard to say a reactive armor block would accomplish much.
@@kemarisite I see, but wouldn't a large enough plate of reactive armor have a similar result against an anti-ship missile? BTW have a great New Year oh, and thank you for your interest in my question.
@@kemarisite Outstanding long version. 😎👍
You goofed about the Iowa Gun design incident, that was one of the best things that happened to the Navy. It forced them to reorganize around an integrated project team approach for ship design.
The first ship designed using the IPT approach were the Fletcher class destroyers. which made a more effective use of weight, space and systems integration. Torpedo upgrades were definitely #1.
True, but I was proposing to force that showdown before the fiasco. Best of both worlds
@@Drachinifel Without the disaster, they would have spent years working out the organization, at least if they are anyhting like the Current NAVAIR/Navy people I have dealt with.
I love french warships. Beauty is an alien concept to the british.
During the early pre-dreadnought era, France went through a brief period of spectacularly ugly ships. That's why the question specified "non-French", so that Jauréguiberry and Masséna would be excluded. (Some of the other early French pre-dreadnoughts were also ugly, but honestly not to the point of qualifying for a "10 ugliest" list.)
@@RedXlV Jauréguiberry and Masséna are great, especially when you havea full view of the hull. Anglos have brain defect making them unable to comprehand any other shapes than fucking cubes.
Hey Drach,
Just for your information: comte di cavour can kinda be pronounced as comte di cawoor. Where the i is similar to how you would pronounce a japanese i (you say comte correctly).
Love your vids!
Zumwalt looks like the TV Marvin the Paranoid Android
so always listen to your spook? outstanding drtdock, watched a video on lighting an oil fired boiler
I thought Yamashiro looked pretty appealing to the eye. Fuso on the other hand.....she’s not winning any beauty contests. I personally would have included the IJN Ruijo. She looks like someone converted a modern cruise ship into a carrier.
The 1920s Japanese light cruisers are also pretty fucking ugly.
Is it possible for you to do a review about Uss montpelier the cruiser one
How the night action turns out is a bit of an stab in the dark whahahahah.
What happens to a torpedo after it runs out of steam?
For what it's worth I thought High School Fleet was pretty terrible. (But I admit I'm neither in high school or a girl, so I'm not exactly the target audience.)
On the other hand, I rate Arpeggio of Blue Steel very highly.
The proper pronunciation for Cavour is ka-voor, last syllable is not supposed to sound anything like Voir in French.
The Long Beach is much better looking than the Zumwalt class destroyers.
Random, but is that American background ship a Pre-dread, and if so what class?
If you mean the title chart: it's USS Oregon. If you look closely you can distinguish the name from her stern.
Since it's not called out in the description - The intro music is called Wat Dat Dee - ruclips.net/video/1Zzqio6jPRQ/видео.html - click and play it unnecessarily loud like me.
How much happier would a drach be if Beaty never was?
What was the real involvement of the Canadian Navy in both WW
Not answering a multi part question in reverse, RIOT!!!!
Anyone know what the ship in the thumbnail is? I've been trying to figure it out with no success
BB-3 USS Oregon
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Oregon_(BB-3)
@@nmccw3245 thank you
Hear! Hear! On the Mark IVX I think you would have more than one moron to push of the bridge. Maybe put them in an S boat loaded with Mark IVX torps and tell them to fight their way out.
51:33 What gives? you didn't answer the last part of the question first. Who are you and what have you done with Drachinifel?
The last time I was his early..
Wait new anime? So that means you've watched anime. What have yoh watched drach?