“The Divine Argument” ⚖️: If a person cuts down a tree, he will have a punishment of a certain value And if a person kills a person, his punishment will be greater And if a person disobeys God, the “ Eternal ” his punishment will be different
*The Sheikh wearing white outfit and white cap on the thumbnail is the one whose meme "brother eeeeee, brother oooooo" went viral during the last recent months and years. Can anyone tell me his name and if he lives in The U.K or Germany or Norway, and if he has a youtube channel? Ali Dawah, why didn't you ever make any collaboration video with him?* ruclips.net/video/q-TyLBkEReA/видео.htmlsi=kVrjYAY__-phsFlc
It sounds bad though, el hamdolileh we know that islam teaches that you can't kill a soul, steal etcetera, but he does makes it sounds in this part shown like you can do this bad stuff as long as you pray (for someone who doesn't really know about islam it sounds bad) And why is he shouting? I used to hear that the prohet pbuh said " you need to argue with them softly" if I am not wrong. If someone resents I don't think this is the way to make them listen
make sure not to say inshallah during dua Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “When one of you calls upon Allah, let him be determined in the supplication and he should not say, ‘O Allah, give me *if You will*,’ for there is no one to coerce Allah.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6338, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2678
Stopped watching Aba and preach from long time, said too many ignorant things about Islam May Allah guide them especially Aba as his mother is muslim, may Allah make it easy for her and grant her the highest rank of Jannah. I cant imagine the pain of your child leaving Islam
As muslims we believe there is no sin worse than a sin against Allah which is disbelief so yes the worse muslim is better than the best non believer@@Eigelstein
@@username2419 yes I watched the video and I understand that he’s trying to clean it up but at what point do y’all stop cleaning this type of stuff up and stop thinking this way and saying this silly shit
my personal biggest problem with them. So misinformed about Islam and will talk about it, yet Palestine apparently doesn't concern them. Bare in mind his comments on the Hajj were laughably wrong and he hasn't retracted those comments. Religion, especially islam is definately a blind spot for them.
Wallahi I started praying thanks to this video from Muhammad Hoblos. It sat in my mind for so long I knew what a huge sin not praying is and it just broke me and I started to pray. By that logic their video could be considered anti muslim because someone could understand it as such and act violently against muslims. The point I took from the video was "wow not praying is a HUGE sin I need to start praying asap" so why does he assume that the point that everyone would take would be "I can do anything as long as I pray"? And they cut off what he said before that how it's all evil and rejected by Allah.
I've also listened the entire video years ago and I benefited a lot from it. It never crossed my mind that it was a license to commit crime. It was rather the opposite. Think these two guys are nonsenses on purpose.
its not arrogant to find fault in a claim that is telling me a full blown grapist is gonna go to heaven instead just because he prays instead of a kind normal personal, its called having MORALS
@idfkwtr It is arrogant because you are claiming a crime against a human is worse than a crime against GOD who made you. The reality is that the latter is worse. That doesn't mean rapists don't go to hell, after all sharia says to kill rapists immediately, but shirk is still the worst sin.
@@rory6860 its actually crazy that u think not simply worshipping spirit with no inherent evidence is WORSE than fkin graping and traumatising a poor and VERY REAL child? also that is not reality that is a belief! im honestly shocked ppl really this way..
Great points mentioned. Another thing i wanna add as well is that the example the brother gave is extreme meaning its almost nonexistent. Allah says in the quran that prayer purifies you and it keeps you away from these sins. Logically if you pray 5 times a day regularly, its impossible to do major sins. Therefor the example as you said, brother Ali, is only there to emphasise Allah‘s divinity.
i don't find it extreme at all, god says that if you don't pray there is no connection between him and you, so what's extreme about that, but i can agree on the example he used is mental yes
@@moezdaoudi9501 im saying it’s extreme to reality. Meaning it almost never happens. How do you pray 5 times a day and still don’t keep away from major sins. Yeah that’s what is meant. Read it again you will understand.
You heard them, the guy on the right said “send me to hell” because he thinks Heaven and Hell are a joke. But when he sees Hell with his eyes he’s gonna be like “NO WAIT send me back” when it’s already too late. Allah already portrayed this example in the Quran.
Saying genocide is worse than beating up an old lady or robbing 1000 people does NOT mean that the latter 2 "are ok". Similarly, saying one sin is worse than other sins doesn't mean that the lesser sins aren't evil. Simple logic but not simple enough for some people, unfortunately.
The preacher said someone who doesn't pray but doesn't commit genocides or beat up all ladies is WORSE than another who prays but goes around robbing people, beating up old ladies and committing genocides EVERYDAY.
@@Era-lk1lo you will be held accountable if you're a bad person who worships God, and if you where a good person but didn't worship God. Muslims gotta both be good people and worship God.
Stopped watching Aba & Preach once I came back into islam, then all their "logical" points started faltering. Used to follow them avidly, too. Aba has always had a disregard for religion, especially Islam, as his family is Ethiopian Muslim. Neither Aba nor Preach use objective truths to define their points; they just base their opinions on what society at large deems to be right (subjective popular opinion). So they miss the mark every time when discussing religion. Don't expect them to make intelligent points backed by objectivity or separating their biases.
Yes Mohammad Hoblo’s could have. But even then instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt, the disbelievers are fixated on always finding a way to interpret us Muslims the wrong way any chance they get instead of giving us the benefit of the doubt like how it teaches us Muslims to do with each other whether it be towards a disbeliever or one of our own brothers or sisters in Islam
You are right but you know language matters some time it doesn't mean what the speaker actually wants to say actually need better wording may ALLAh swt help us to convey the message properly Ameen
It depends on the audience. That talk was probably intended for Muslims not non-muslims. Muslims shouldn't stop speaking the truth just because some people might reject it. Having said that, it should be used with wisdom and given to the right person at the right time
Yes and we have limited knowledge, I don’t think we should publicly declare praying while committing major sins is better than not praying in the eyes of Allah(SWT). Unless there is a direct Hadith that says this. And it encourages people to keep sinning and be content with it, when we should strive to stop sins and do our best. Nobody is sinless but we should strive to stop and do our best. Also his examples don’t make sense because someone who takes intoxicants such as drinking/drgs - their prayers are not accepted for 40 days, and if they pass in this state they will go to Jahannam. So how is them “praying” better than someone not. Also there is a Hadith about a woman who prayed day and night, but treated people terribly and was not a good person. It said her prayers were wasted. Also the punishment for “Grpe” and adultery are D-penalty. They have no place even being mentioned it is truly sickening. I don’t think we should spread misinformation.
Most of his speeches are very passionate but very easily misunderstood because he doesn’t go into nuances. So, anyone who isn’t listening to the whole lecture is easily misled. He should be more responsible in creating these clips for instagram or TikTok or any short form contents.
@@oromtitiwbo5078you are mistaken in your judgement. Those who drink and pray is better than those who do not pray at all. Whether or not the prayer is accepted. The hadith is clear that those who reject prayer is not a Muslim. Also that woman who prayed but was foul mouthed, she eventually will enter paradise. Compared to those who reject to pray.
@AbuFarouq He isn't mistaken your example is bringing up a specific interpretation of the hadith which is disputed in fiqh. The one who rejects prayer as an obligation is not a Muslim, what Hoblos is talking about is someone being negligent in their prayers, which is sinful but still a Muslim, according to the majority of the fuquha. There's a few other videos on this topic out here.
@@jonsnow2791 oromtitiwbo5078 is mistaken. He is questioning how someone who is sinful yet prays better than the one who does not pray. I know negligence is a different case. We are talking about those doesn’t(meaning left prayer/choosing not to pray even though they know it is obligatory just cause).
Hoblos made a stupid point there nothing else to it, when the prophet literally said the opposite check: It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: A man said: O Messenger of Allaah, “So and so (a woman) - and he spoke of how much she prayed and fasted and gave charity - but she annoys her neighbours with her (sharp) tongue.” He said: “She will be in Hell.” He said: “O Messenger of Allaah, So and so (another woman) - and he spoke of how little she fasted and gave charity and prayed - but she gives cheese in charity and she does not annoy her neighbours with her (sharp) tongue.” He said: “She will be in Paradise.”
This is talking about extra prayers (notice it didn't say she didn't pray). Obligatory prayer is pillar and is a criterion that seprates muslims from kuffar (the eternal hell dwellers). Hoblos was 100% correct.
misunderstanding him and Immediately start judging him and making jokes about him The two sheikhs narrated on the authority of Abu Hurairah: The Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, said: (Whoever believes in God and the Last Day, let him not harm his neighbor, and whoever believes in God and the Last Day, let him honor his guest, and whoever believes in God and the Last Day, let him say good or remain silent.) As mentioned in Al-Bukhari Hadith 6018
Mental gymnastics for this is crazy. Someone who has not harmed a child or deleted a human is MUCH better than someone who has. Prayers are irrelevant.
That's why we had death punishment for those..make sure to ask forgiveness from God before sentencing.. however shirk is an unforgivable sin if you die upon it, it barred you from entering heaven.
Aba's family are Muslim I think his mother is knowledgeable I believe. But he lives for the dunya and his own desires. May Allah guide them both InshaAllah
To be honest I’m a Muslim and I don’t agree with what that imam said, just be a Muslim who doesn’t pray and don’t do all these things because at the end of the day praying is between you and Allah but raping a child, killing, stealing is people’s right and you’ll never be forgiven for that until they chose to forgive you…
I also heard another sheikh talking about the same thing. Intentionally separating ourselves from Salah is a kufr. Staying steady on our salahs will obviously keep us away from such sins and even smaller ones. These unfortunates dont have the wisdom or morals to understand the context. May Allah keep us on sirat al mustaqeem.
Asc walahi i dont understand the inferiority complex within the ummah. Mohammed said nothing wrong at all. We dont need to justify anything to anyone. Let them laugh. Allah swt will judge between us. May Allah swt reward Mohammed with jannatul fardowsa insha'allah and guide us all.
@@imyinc The one who does not pray with clear intention and with knowledge that god is the only one worthy of worship IS FAR FAAAAR WORSE than any other evil. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE. The creator of you and this child the creator of the sun and the moon. HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITHOUT The creator. THE ONE WHO GIVES YOU earing and intellect and sight. The minimum you HAVE to do to be grateful to your creator is to submit to him and if you do not pray to him and pray to something else. THIS IS FAR GREATER THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
He is trying to tell us if you dnt pray you are Kafir. So if a Muslim does all dos sins bt prays Infront of Allah it's easy to be forgiven dan da one who doesn't pray at all because Prayers is wat separate a Muslim from Kafir
@@Hahahaha-7 We believe God is the most forgiving. However, you can only be forgiven if you truly regret your actions and intend not to do them again. It isn't a case of where people do whatever they want because 'God will forgive me if i just pray.'
@@Hahahaha-7 The only thing that will guide u in the right direction are Prayers & Remember Never lose hope in the mercy of Allah, All men are sinners but the best among us is who repent. Allah forgives all sins. But instead if u say because I sin den i won't pray dts another sin uve added to your account.
@@Hahahaha-7 It doesn't mean that you will get away with it. Maybe for many major sins that a muslim doesn't repent for he remains in hell for millions billions or trillions of years. You burn there it's not a joke. Put your hand in fire or on a stove if you can. And after the sinners burn their skin is restored so they can feel the punishment again. But if they're muslim they will leave hell some day and non believers stay there forever unless they really had a valid excuse like never hearing about it or not being able to understand it at all.
Agree, it says in sahih hadiths that Allah doesn't even accept the fast of a liar. So why would He accept the prayer of a rapist or adulterer who doesn't regret his actions, let alone repent? These street imams really need to choose their words carefully and stop shouting nonsense. I respect their good intentions but their style of speech is absolutely horrendous.
@beastvader well I think they cause more damage than good even if there intentions are good if people are not learned and have no qualifications in a field they should not talk in that field or at least just stick to what they properply know. This is one of the biggest problems we face nowadays expecially with a sensitive subject such as Islam it's very dangerous to talk without knowledge it can cause significant damage. Even if one thinks he knows he should not talk unless he has given the all clear by other scholars.
@@number3three I agree, only articulate imams/scholars should be allowed to post videos online. If their speech is unrefined or tactless then they should refrain from it
@beastvader 💯,subhan Allah ignorance is abundant and easily accessed these days due to the shortage of proper Fuqahaa. We have neglected the obligation of seeking knowledge from the scholars and have focused to much on the dunya life thus resulting to chaos like this. May Allah(swt) open the doors of relief mercy and victory for us cause we so badly need it right now. Salamu 3alaykm Akhi
Ibn Abbas reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “He is not a believer whose stomach is full while the neighbor to his side is starving.” Source: al-Sunan al-Kubrá lil-Bayhaqī 19668 Hypocrites will be in the worst part of hell, so praying alone is not enough, faith comes with good deeds. One is useless without the other regarding salvation, unless Allah makes a exception.
"A person who does all of that and prays" that does not exist. A person who commits murder and major sin on a daily basis, his prayers are not accepted. Because prayer forbids evil actions. That is just a phantom example - it does not exist in the real world.
However thanks to you keeping on reading your Salah, your iman never truly left you and you are now here commenting on an Islamic video. I’m not going to make any quick conclusions but people who were in your position and not prayer could very much have gone astray. Same coudl have been for your case however Salah definetly plays a role to do with our spiritual health and sins. You with Salah was able to remember Allah 5 times a day!
Just want to add I also lived a ignorant lifestyle and Islam came into my life but sometimes you create demons within yourself when your sinning and they never leave you hence why Salah and remembrance of Allah SWT is important. Otherwise intrusive thoughts can take hold of believer when their emaan is weak making them turn to haram. But through prayer and asking forgiveness is what keeps you going.
Thats not true tho, there's no evidence that someone who commits murder his prayer isn't accepted. That's not to say that it isn't wrong but these are to separate things.
They exist. I watched a documentary called the dancing boys of Afghanistan. Pedos were raping young boys. 20 on to one 1w year old boy 😢😢😢😢 it haunts me til this day. And those men prayed every Salah It was on video. They didn't know they were being filmed. I hope and pray that man doesn't go to Jannah Imagine the utter pain and disregard for the innocence and purity that Allah poured into that child, for 20 degenerates to go and take that away without his consent!!!!!
Now let do the opposite. Let say someone did all of those horrible think, no one should say, well if he didn’t make salaat that would be worse🤦🏾. Come on. This is emotional manipulation. Stop using the extreme to make a point. It makes everything seem pointless. Don’t defend this because it should never be used as a comparison. Tell the brother he is wrong for confusing people and let’s move on.
Well said, these street imams need to stop using silly childish extreme examples for everything. And they need to stop yelling too and learn to become more tactful and articulate
As a Revert I understand what he's saying ALL unrighteous is Sin if a Christian or Muslim ANY Person who doesn't Repent or Seek the forgiveness of Allah is equal especially to die and not be forgiven.
I was waiting for this 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Just based on the clip...... i understand what yall are saying but that take from the clip is wild. To me it sounds the same as living a life of horrendous sin and then accepting jesus christ as lord and saviour on your death bed makes everything okay.
Bro. I've had this sent to me before. Hoblos is using wrong analogies to drive the point home of the importance of prayer. There is a hadith of a lady that treats her neighbors in a malicious fashion; yet she prays, fasts, give in alms, etc. The Prophet (pbuh) said hell will suffice for her. This negates his stupid analogies. Worshiping God is not just through prayer alone, its through all actions, or your prayers are invalid & not accepted due to a polluted soul that sanctifies itself like an Antinomianist presuming atonement. It is Allah (swt) who gives sanctity to His/Its servants. NOT the ego! His analogies are trash because he's always emotional & extremely animated.
You obviously don't know him, you obviously havn't watched his videos or sat inside a masjid and watched him in person. He knows exactly what he's talking about.
You also have to emphasize that as muslims, we have to weigh our words and not verbally vomit what comes to mind in order to make a point. I believe his intention may be good (Allah knows for certain), but he delivered it in a manner that was not befitting a Daee or scholar.
The whole religion needs patch up explanations, which just further highlight it being man made. A man 14 centuries ago who didnt know anything except what was around at that time.
“The Divine Argument” ⚖️: If a person cuts down a tree, he will have a punishment of a certain value And if a person kills a person, his punishment will be greater And if a person disobeys God, the “ Eternal ” his punishment will be different
To say that the person who abandons prayer is worse than the one who sheds blood (for example) does not mean the one who sheds blood is “better”, let alone exempt. The condemnation of murder is very firm in the Quran, and every Muslim who properly understands the Quran understands this too. The point of his speech is to demonstrate the condemnation of not praying, which is separate and has no effect on the condemnation of murder. Maybe one could say “I don’t see why refusing to pray is so evil”. But now this is a different point altogether, necessitating the question of why that is so and on what basis something is considered good and evil, and to what extent.
SYDNEY CONTEXT: Just for context, I live in the local area of Hoblos. I know the community lifestyle here. We have drug dealers and organised crime. People who need a very hardcore strong dawah style. Personally, this is not something I gravitate towards but I can understand why he was popularised in this area of Sydney. So I believe this context is also important in trying to understand the message he is trying to send towards HIS local community. He is trying to bring them back to basics.
@@Gaga4Parma there’s so many different types of personalities for the diverse community that is the Muslim Ummah, subhanAllah. They all serve a purpose for their own respective audiences. I’m glad you find benefit in his talks. As someone with anxiety disorders, I prefer the softer spoken who inspire good in a calmer way. Ali Hammuda is one of my favourites and The Muslim Lantern for debate style dawah.
You sure? 17:31 “Do not kill your children for fear of poverty” 17:32 “Do not go near adultery. It is truly a shameful deed and an evil way.” 17:33 “Do not take a ˹human˺ life-made sacred by Allah-except with ˹legal˺ right.” 17:38 “The violation of any of these ˹commandments˺ is detestable to your Lord.”
@@shutit7949 something that I have noticed about Muslims is y’all have a tendency to read or watch something and add things to it I didn’t bring up God it’s crazy to me that we watched the same video and your confused at the response
Its like the difference between a sinner who is regretful vs a normal person who doesnt worship God If we could do all that stuff in iur religion, then you would see a loooooot more of those disgusting sins happening throughout history and today, but we don't see that.
It's clear Allah sets a threshold where he says woe to those who pray ... If the prayer is for show Or if your prayer does not influence you provide simple assistance. A sin is highly unlikely for a sincere praying muslim because he is standing infront of Allah 5 x a day acknowledging a day of judgement and asking for guidance. Salah is a medication to remove the negative influences of materialism from our hearts and to connect to a deeper purpose and to connect to Allah (I.e. meraj)
The point being made is that someone who prays correctly would not fall into great sins like raping a child. Allaah SWT Mentions in the Quraan Surely the prayer prevents from great sins and evil wicked deed, and surely the Remembrance of Allah is greater (29:45). May Allaah SWT Grant us the proper understanding of this noble deen ❤
@@ramlahagi2674 Well said but people like Mohammed Hoblos should elaborate like you did. But they never do, they just shout ambiguous nonsense which is easily misinterpreted by non-Muslims. And in the process makes them think negatively of our beautiful religion of Islam.
@@ramlahagi2674 this is not the point being made, and your point is proven wrong by the woman who is sent to hell even when she prayed and had excellent Ibadah but was horrible to her neighbours
'Ali you were too apologetic. The burden of proof is on them, the ones who claimed it is illogical, to prove why. Ain't no way these guys are trying to disprove our objective morals with their subjective feelings.
You can't give dawah and just tell people to accept it. You need to be able to engage in back and forths with people. When people came to the Prophet PBUH and his companions with questions, they didn't just ignore those questions and say "I'm right, you're wrong." They gave wisdom and clarity.
I have learned the hard way I am in zero position to spread dawah. Have to walk the talk first so to speak, but on top of that: You spread the message, guidance is in Allah's hands. I always had too much ego to do even that lol Astagfirallah. Salam laykum.
Simple, Even in their religion, an infidel is worse than Killer and adulterer, and for us, the one who does not pray is an infidel. also prayer prevents indecency and wrongdoing. Whoever truly prays will not do these actions.
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In Islam we have Law and Order, the greatest sin in Islam is failling to fulfil God's rights, but as bad is falling to fulfil the rights of people under God. Those who make mistakes, repent and stop doing evil are better than those who never repent and stop doing evil because they will never heal and be healed.
That is a very wrong comparison he made and has given enemies of Islam to use this to turn people against Islam by spreading this clip. He needs to make another video to clear this misconception.
I like how you like how you correcting them on behalf of your brother in his defense and clarifying understanding of how serious Salaah is to the Creator, may Allah reward you
A person who prays 5 x will make mistakes, have weaknesses etc. But he won't actively be an active sinner doing alot of haraam...the two do not mix...unless his prayers are mostly movements and not spiritual worship!
Thank you brother Ali. I as a Muslim didn't just understand Hoblos when he said it but I also felt it and believe it has positively impacted my life and my daily decisions. I see the lecture (the entire video) as more suited for Muslims than non-Muslims. This point of view of Aba and Preacher is only because they are not believers and you're right to explain to them. Jazakalla khair
So we have this charming verse from the Quran (25:70): "Except for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good." Quite the spiritual laundering service, isn't it? And our scholarly friends assure us this is the height of divine mercy. The esteemed Imam al-Ghazali even tells us, "The one who repents from sin is like one who has no sin." How convenient! I suppose Ted Bundy could've popped into a mosque, said "my bad," and presto - serial killer to saint! But let's consider the evidence, shall we? History is littered with the corpses of the righteous, slain by those who later found God. I'm sure that's a great comfort to the victims - "Don't worry, dear, your murderer's now scored points with the Almighty." It's a cosmic accounting trick that would make Enron blush. One moment you're drowning in sin, the next you're drowning in virtue - all without lifting a finger to actually right your wrongs. It's not just that the scales of justice are tipped; they've been tossed out entirely for a system that would make even the most corrupt judge say, "Hang on, that's a bit much." But who are we to question? After all, it's so much easier to erase misdeeds with a celestial eraser than to actually grapple with the messy reality of human actions and their consequences. Why bother with all that pesky personal growth and genuine atonement when you can just flip a spiritual switch and - voila! - you're bathing in divine brownie points. It's not justice; it's barely even coherent. But I suppose when you're in the business of selling afterlife real estate, you need a good returns policy. Shame on you Ali dawah 😑
Salam aleikum from Mali. I’d say there should always be wisdom when arguing in matters of religion . The worst sins are unambiguously stated in the Quran as being the shirk and kufr. You dont need to leave those out and go bristling over anything else …even leaving prayer becomes worst only when it’s based on kufr rather than on negligence and washiness. Murder is in the upper worst sins … as mentioned in the Quran … : killing one innocent soul is like killing all the people; whoever kills a believer outside of justice or error Allah will be angry at them- curse them - and condemn them to hellfire; those who kill the prophets and kill those who enjoin the people to do justice will be awaited with a grievous punishment in hellfire. So, any sin that incur Allah’s anger, his curse and condemnation to hell in one shot shouldn’t be compared (as paling) to show the grievousness of another sin (except for shirk). Moreover, why should we prefer that rough penal perspective of comparing sins (with risk of being taken out of context) rather than comparing the merits of good deeds? For exemple, why not put this way: saving lives, avoiding zina etc.. all have lesser merits compared to upholding good prayer… meaning prayer would be a superior virtue. You dont want to be just a stern warner ..but also giver of glad tidings. Didn’t The Prophet (ﷺ) say, "Make things easy for the people, and do not make it difficult for them, and make them calm (with glad tidings) and do not repulse (them ).” ?
You and your pretentious Imam are dead wrong! You cannot rationalise the position of that maniac who masquerades as an Imam! And when you try to rationalise that position, you somehow make the impression of trying to justify what he claims, that “praying and sinning” is better than “not praying and not sinning”! Nothing can be far removed from the Quran and Sunna tradition than that position which some so called Imam hold!
That guy(mohamad hoblos) shouldnt be a source for knowledge.... hes far far far away feom that. Beeing famouse doesnt mean hes knowledgeable or can be a scholar . That guys maximum reach should be his family.
Those are nearly impossible scenarios in practical life but they emphasize the point. If one doesn't pray, they practically don't recognize God. The same way you have a friend but do nothing together or for eachother. No phone calls, no messages no help when in need. That friendship would disolve into nothingness quick. To believe in God is to worship God is to pray to God is to remember God in good and bad times. Saying one thing and doing the opposite is hypocricy, a munafiq. And those are among the worst of the worst in the Quan.
The sheikhs, imams and scholars are all aware of what inner modesty is in Islam (part of what is inner modesty is being mindful of what you speak). Therefore to make such an extreme analogy was not a good idea. Whilst the sheikh has been misunderstood, this was a badly given example
The speakers message was sincere and it can be put like this ; If a Muslim commits A-Z sins does the worst of the worst then that does not equate to how big of a sin it is to not pray our Salah
Those two extracted a short part of a video and understood it out of the real context. Anti muslims on the net do that all the time. If i say hello to you, please dont go tell people i said hell .....😅
SheikhS needs to be held accountable for when they make mistakes, no one is above reproach. He has the wisdom to communicate better. These are major sins, he is discussing. God will decide whether you go to heaven or hell. So, this balancing act regards good and bad deeds instead of speaking about the beauty of good deeds.
Narrated `Adi bin Hatim heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying: "Save yourself from Hell-fire even by giving half a date-fruit in charity." Sahih al-Bukhari 1417
As a muslim , i got the point sheikh Mohammed Hoblos wanted to make. Never thought like how these 2 guys did. It means they do need to hear the explanation and the intention of the things that were meant to be understood. Let them know , whoever can reach out to them
I love Muhammad Hoblos. He only lives to please Allah. Let them make all the videos they want about him, he doesn't care about Aba & Preach's opinion of Islam.
"Neglecting to worship Allah is worse than committing other sins, as there are punishments for those acts, and not praying without a valid reason is a serious wrongdoing. We must prioritize worship and praying, as neglecting them only harms ourselves. Our lives should revolve around worshipping Allah, and salah (prayer) is the highest form of worship to Him."
Ma sha Allah brother best explanations always or clarifications . May Allah forgive us all and have Rahma over us . And pray that he don’t allow us to violate others Amin
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Aba n peach or whatever their names are. One of them is a full blown murtad.
Murtadeen from muslim countries are the worst of the worst
It sounds bad though, el hamdolileh we know that islam teaches that you can't kill a soul, steal etcetera, but he does makes it sounds in this part shown like you can do this bad stuff as long as you pray (for someone who doesn't really know about islam it sounds bad) And why is he shouting? I used to hear that the prohet pbuh said " you need to argue with them softly" if I am not wrong. If someone resents I don't think this is the way to make them listen
That's nat what's he meant tho!!
They are mocking the logic when they dont even understand the point.
💯 agree
But there is no logic to mock in that claim!
@@shirwanomer4564 Worshiping god is the most important thing, that the point and if you dont see that important then you wont get it.
🤡🤡😂😂 the point is Islam makes no sense the Muslim shuffle 👳🏽♂️🧕💃🕺🪩😂😂
@@shirwanomer4564 Who is greater the creator or the creation ?
aba's family are muslim, he's 100% aware of islam.
Meaning he's a house slave
lies, typical muslim
Isn't that scary
Aba left Islam @@AlElJindiTaha
Muslim muslim or deviant sect muslim? Because the impression i get from watching his videos is someone ignorant of Islam
Whats crazy is aba is an ex muslim who grew up in a muslim household. May Allah guide him back to the straight path.
I think he identifies as Muslim but not a particularly adherent one.
@@Sundog1985 no he doesn't he said multiple times how he isn't a muslim and why he left islam
make sure not to say inshallah during dua
Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “When one of you calls upon Allah, let him be determined in the supplication and he should not say, ‘O Allah, give me *if You will*,’ for there is no one to coerce Allah.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6338, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2678
@@loopybrogaming1149cheers for the advice
Ameen
Stopped watching Aba and preach from long time, said too many ignorant things about Islam
May Allah guide them especially Aba as his mother is muslim, may Allah make it easy for her and grant her the highest rank of Jannah. I cant imagine the pain of your child leaving Islam
Ameen. He also mentioned in a video that his mother was against him joining the US military and he didn't care and decided to join anyways.
Aba did made the right decision to leave Islam. May his mother follow him to receive Jesus Christ as LORD. Islam is a false religion.
As muslims we believe there is no sin worse than a sin against Allah which is disbelief so yes the worse muslim is better than the best non believer@@Eigelstein
Yeh parents must be disappointed
Amin 😊
aba is an ex muslim, he usually had a slight negative undertone when he speaks about islam.
To any civilized person that was horrible
@@jessejacobs9856 what does morality has todo with being civilized ??? or do you change your morals everyday
@@zyfella the problem is y’all don’t change y’all are exactly how white people describe y’all on the news
@@jessejacobs9856clearly haven't watched the vid
@@username2419 yes I watched the video and I understand that he’s trying to clean it up but at what point do y’all stop cleaning this type of stuff up and stop thinking this way and saying this silly shit
Aba will talk about everything except about falasteen 🤣
my personal biggest problem with them. So misinformed about Islam and will talk about it, yet Palestine apparently doesn't concern them. Bare in mind his comments on the Hajj were laughably wrong and he hasn't retracted those comments.
Religion, especially islam is definately a blind spot for them.
What do you expect from a Murtad?
@thewarlock539 Aba isn't misinformed, the taller one used to be muslim and his family is muslim.
@@rory6860 He is either misinformed or lying about certain matters. The Hajj statement he made is factually incorrect.
What'd he say about Hajj?
Wallahi I started praying thanks to this video from Muhammad Hoblos. It sat in my mind for so long I knew what a huge sin not praying is and it just broke me and I started to pray. By that logic their video could be considered anti muslim because someone could understand it as such and act violently against muslims. The point I took from the video was "wow not praying is a HUGE sin I need to start praying asap" so why does he assume that the point that everyone would take would be "I can do anything as long as I pray"? And they cut off what he said before that how it's all evil and rejected by Allah.
I've also listened the entire video years ago and I benefited a lot from it. It never crossed my mind that it was a license to commit crime. It was rather the opposite. Think these two guys are nonsenses on purpose.
Facts i remember this video really sat in my head 3 years ago and made me start praying
The believers understand what he means. Only the arrogant find fault, or trying to find fault in this!
its not arrogant to find fault in a claim that is telling me a full blown grapist is gonna go to heaven instead just because he prays instead of a kind normal personal, its called having MORALS
I'm a Muslim and I don't agree with what he said.
@idfkwtr It is arrogant because you are claiming a crime against a human is worse than a crime against GOD who made you.
The reality is that the latter is worse.
That doesn't mean rapists don't go to hell, after all sharia says to kill rapists immediately, but shirk is still the worst sin.
@@rory6860 its actually crazy that u think not simply worshipping spirit with no inherent evidence is WORSE than fkin graping and traumatising a poor and VERY REAL child? also that is not reality that is a belief! im honestly shocked ppl really this way..
@@idfkwtr
He never said that. You're dishonesty twisting what he said.
Great points mentioned. Another thing i wanna add as well is that the example the brother gave is extreme meaning its almost nonexistent. Allah says in the quran that prayer purifies you and it keeps you away from these sins. Logically if you pray 5 times a day regularly, its impossible to do major sins. Therefor the example as you said, brother Ali, is only there to emphasise Allah‘s divinity.
i don't find it extreme at all, god says that if you don't pray there is no connection between him and you, so what's extreme about that, but i can agree on the example he used is mental yes
@@moezdaoudi9501 im saying it’s extreme to reality. Meaning it almost never happens. How do you pray 5 times a day and still don’t keep away from major sins.
Yeah that’s what is meant. Read it again you will understand.
@@Abu3ilm ah yeah now yes
@@Abu3ilmit’s fair to say it’s rare, but it does happen. Someone can pray and still fall victim to their desires
Oh no bro, you have yet to see things. People can be Imam of the Masjid and still be committing the most heinous sins you could imagine.
I watched sheikhs entire lecture and he explains that the example he used its just an analogy. These two just trying to get clout and spread hatred.
Their whole channel is basically gossip and talking bad about people.
Precisely an analogy these dudes dumb asl SubhanAllāh
You heard them, the guy on the right said “send me to hell” because he thinks Heaven and Hell are a joke. But when he sees Hell with his eyes he’s gonna be like “NO WAIT send me back” when it’s already too late. Allah already portrayed this example in the Quran.
Oh not these two clowns -_-
Blabah and screech
I KNEW these two 🤡would pop up at some point. Lmao
Airpod and bleach
I don’t like who Mock others,i don’t like someone streaming,talking about Allah, its wrong and who talk about Allah take a very big risk to him
Why you focus on these clowns?,we are facile worse situations like never,and some talk for nothing.
Saying genocide is worse than beating up an old lady or robbing 1000 people does NOT mean that the latter 2 "are ok".
Similarly, saying one sin is worse than other sins doesn't mean that the lesser sins aren't evil. Simple logic but not simple enough for some people, unfortunately.
so nicely said
The preacher said someone who doesn't pray but doesn't commit genocides or beat up all ladies is WORSE than another who prays but goes around robbing people, beating up old ladies and committing genocides EVERYDAY.
Very well said
But it shows backwards logic, worshipping Allah is more important than just being a good person.
@@Era-lk1lo you will be held accountable if you're a bad person who worships God, and if you where a good person but didn't worship God. Muslims gotta both be good people and worship God.
Stopped watching Aba & Preach once I came back into islam, then all their "logical" points started faltering. Used to follow them avidly, too. Aba has always had a disregard for religion, especially Islam, as his family is Ethiopian Muslim. Neither Aba nor Preach use objective truths to define their points; they just base their opinions on what society at large deems to be right (subjective popular opinion). So they miss the mark every time when discussing religion. Don't expect them to make intelligent points backed by objectivity or separating their biases.
To be fair he coulda worded it better
Yes Mohammad Hoblo’s could have. But even then instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt, the disbelievers are fixated on always finding a way to interpret us Muslims the wrong way any chance they get instead of giving us the benefit of the doubt like how it teaches us Muslims to do with each other whether it be towards a disbeliever or one of our own brothers or sisters in Islam
You are right but you know language matters some time it doesn't mean what the speaker actually wants to say actually need better wording may ALLAh swt help us to convey the message properly Ameen
It depends on the audience. That talk was probably intended for Muslims not non-muslims. Muslims shouldn't stop speaking the truth just because some people might reject it. Having said that, it should be used with wisdom and given to the right person at the right time
@@AsadAllahhh I understand exactly what he’s saying but for the non Muslims this is insane language to them so they will twist it
@@raffatperveen3150 I understand exactly what he’s saying but for the non Muslims this is insane language to them so they will twist it
Using language/analogies like this is not suitable for dawah. I am afraid it has the opposite affect. Subhan'Allah
Yes and we have limited knowledge, I don’t think we should publicly declare praying while committing major sins is better than not praying in the eyes of Allah(SWT). Unless there is a direct Hadith that says this.
And it encourages people to keep sinning and be content with it, when we should strive to stop sins and do our best. Nobody is sinless but we should strive to stop and do our best.
Also his examples don’t make sense because someone who takes intoxicants such as drinking/drgs - their prayers are not accepted for 40 days, and if they pass in this state they will go to Jahannam.
So how is them “praying” better than someone not.
Also there is a Hadith about a woman who prayed day and night, but treated people terribly and was not a good person. It said her prayers were wasted.
Also the punishment for “Grpe” and adultery are D-penalty.
They have no place even being mentioned it is truly sickening.
I don’t think we should spread misinformation.
Most of his speeches are very passionate but very easily misunderstood because he doesn’t go into nuances. So, anyone who isn’t listening to the whole lecture is easily misled. He should be more responsible in creating these clips for instagram or TikTok or any short form contents.
@@oromtitiwbo5078you are mistaken in your judgement.
Those who drink and pray is better than those who do not pray at all. Whether or not the prayer is accepted. The hadith is clear that those who reject prayer is not a Muslim. Also that woman who prayed but was foul mouthed, she eventually will enter paradise. Compared to those who reject to pray.
@AbuFarouq
He isn't mistaken your example is bringing up a specific interpretation of the hadith which is disputed in fiqh. The one who rejects prayer as an obligation is not a Muslim, what Hoblos is talking about is someone being negligent in their prayers, which is sinful but still a Muslim, according to the majority of the fuquha. There's a few other videos on this topic out here.
@@jonsnow2791 oromtitiwbo5078 is mistaken. He is questioning how someone who is sinful yet prays better than the one who does not pray.
I know negligence is a different case. We are talking about those doesn’t(meaning left prayer/choosing not to pray even though they know it is obligatory just cause).
Hoblos made a stupid point there nothing else to it, when the prophet literally said the opposite check:
It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: A man said: O Messenger of Allaah, “So and so (a woman) - and he spoke of how much she prayed and fasted and gave charity - but she annoys her neighbours with her (sharp) tongue.” He said: “She will be in Hell.”
He said: “O Messenger of Allaah, So and so (another woman) - and he spoke of how little she fasted and gave charity and prayed - but she gives cheese in charity and she does not annoy her neighbours with her (sharp) tongue.” He said: “She will be in Paradise.”
This is talking about extra prayers (notice it didn't say she didn't pray). Obligatory prayer is pillar and is a criterion that seprates muslims from kuffar (the eternal hell dwellers). Hoblos was 100% correct.
U missed the point
misunderstanding him and Immediately start judging him and making jokes about him
The two sheikhs narrated on the authority of Abu Hurairah: The Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, said: (Whoever believes in God and the Last Day, let him not harm his neighbor, and whoever believes in God and the Last Day, let him honor his guest, and whoever believes in God and the Last Day, let him say good or remain silent.) As mentioned in Al-Bukhari Hadith 6018
Pagan logic 😅😂
Mental gymnastics for this is crazy. Someone who has not harmed a child or deleted a human is MUCH better than someone who has. Prayers are irrelevant.
That's why we had death punishment for those..make sure to ask forgiveness from God before sentencing.. however shirk is an unforgivable sin if you die upon it, it barred you from entering heaven.
Agreed
To take a snippet of a full lecture and not knowing the context shows how ignorant or disingenuous these people are. Aba and preach that's sad.
bro as a muslim i dont even agree with what he said jus cos we muslims we dont have to agree with every other imam says
Aba's family are Muslim I think his mother is knowledgeable I believe. But he lives for the dunya and his own desires. May Allah guide them both InshaAllah
To be honest I’m a Muslim and I don’t agree with what that imam said, just be a Muslim who doesn’t pray and don’t do all these things because at the end of the day praying is between you and Allah but raping a child, killing, stealing is people’s right and you’ll never be forgiven for that until they chose to forgive you…
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I also heard another sheikh talking about the same thing. Intentionally separating ourselves from Salah is a kufr. Staying steady on our salahs will obviously keep us away from such sins and even smaller ones. These unfortunates dont have the wisdom or morals to understand the context. May Allah keep us on sirat al mustaqeem.
Asc walahi i dont understand the inferiority complex within the ummah. Mohammed said nothing wrong at all. We dont need to justify anything to anyone. Let them laugh. Allah swt will judge between us. May Allah swt reward Mohammed with jannatul fardowsa insha'allah and guide us all.
It was a badly made point, there is no way a child rper is better if he prays than the one who doesn’t pray
@@imyinc You are really blind. What is the value of the child compared to the creator ?
@@imyinc The one who does not pray with clear intention and with knowledge that god is the only one worthy of worship IS FAR FAAAAR WORSE than any other evil. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE. The creator of you and this child the creator of the sun and the moon. HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITHOUT The creator. THE ONE WHO GIVES YOU earing and intellect and sight. The minimum you HAVE to do to be grateful to your creator is to submit to him and if you do not pray to him and pray to something else. THIS IS FAR GREATER THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
@@anxoidenamikaze1551 you are dumb shut up
It’s a badly made point and these imams/sheikhs (who should know the concept of inner modesty in Islam) should not be making such wild examples.
Atheists moralising and taking clips out of context again. Good clarification.
misunderstanding him and Immediately start judging him and making jokes about him
Plus ignoring the formiddable full talk
Allah sent Musa (AS) to Firawn and said speak to him with kindness perhaps he might repent and turn to his lord. Allah is the Most Merciful
He is trying to tell us if you dnt pray you are Kafir. So if a Muslim does all dos sins bt prays Infront of Allah it's easy to be forgiven dan da one who doesn't pray at all because Prayers is wat separate a Muslim from Kafir
How can you do all those sins and pray and expect to be forgiven every single day?.
@@Hahahaha-7 We believe God is the most forgiving. However, you can only be forgiven if you truly regret your actions and intend not to do them again. It isn't a case of where people do whatever they want because 'God will forgive me if i just pray.'
@@Hahahaha-7 The only thing that will guide u in the right direction are Prayers & Remember Never lose hope in the mercy of Allah, All men are sinners but the best among us is who repent. Allah forgives all sins. But instead if u say because I sin den i won't pray dts another sin uve added to your account.
@@Hahahaha-7 Continue praying no matter what & eventually you will see losing interest in sinning, Only Allah guides n Allah Has His Specific Time.
@@Hahahaha-7
It doesn't mean that you will get away with it. Maybe for many major sins that a muslim doesn't repent for he remains in hell for millions billions or trillions of years. You burn there it's not a joke. Put your hand in fire or on a stove if you can. And after the sinners burn their skin is restored so they can feel the punishment again. But if they're muslim they will leave hell some day and non believers stay there forever unless they really had a valid excuse like never hearing about it or not being able to understand it at all.
May Allah guide us all AMEEN.
Honestly though hoblos is wrong for saying that it's a very bad thing to say a learned scholar would never say that
Agree, it says in sahih hadiths that Allah doesn't even accept the fast of a liar. So why would He accept the prayer of a rapist or adulterer who doesn't regret his actions, let alone repent? These street imams really need to choose their words carefully and stop shouting nonsense. I respect their good intentions but their style of speech is absolutely horrendous.
@beastvader well I think they cause more damage than good even if there intentions are good if people are not learned and have no qualifications in a field they should not talk in that field or at least just stick to what they properply know. This is one of the biggest problems we face nowadays expecially with a sensitive subject such as Islam it's very dangerous to talk without knowledge it can cause significant damage. Even if one thinks he knows he should not talk unless he has given the all clear by other scholars.
@@number3three I agree, only articulate imams/scholars should be allowed to post videos online. If their speech is unrefined or tactless then they should refrain from it
@beastvader 💯,subhan Allah ignorance is abundant and easily accessed these days due to the shortage of proper Fuqahaa. We have neglected the obligation of seeking knowledge from the scholars and have focused to much on the dunya life thus resulting to chaos like this. May Allah(swt) open the doors of relief mercy and victory for us cause we so badly need it right now. Salamu 3alaykm Akhi
Dont listen to hablos, he paints us bad unfortunately
You're doing sin meanwhile you pray.. your prayers are wasted
Ibn Abbas reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said,
“He is not a believer whose stomach is full while the neighbor to his side is starving.”
Source: al-Sunan al-Kubrá lil-Bayhaqī 19668
Hypocrites will be in the worst part of hell, so praying alone is not enough, faith comes with good deeds. One is useless without the other regarding salvation, unless Allah makes a exception.
"A person who does all of that and prays" that does not exist. A person who commits murder and major sin on a daily basis, his prayers are not accepted. Because prayer forbids evil actions. That is just a phantom example - it does not exist in the real world.
However thanks to you keeping on reading your Salah, your iman never truly left you and you are now here commenting on an Islamic video. I’m not going to make any quick conclusions but people who were in your position and not prayer could very much have gone astray. Same coudl have been for your case however Salah definetly plays a role to do with our spiritual health and sins. You with Salah was able to remember Allah 5 times a day!
Just want to add I also lived a ignorant lifestyle and Islam came into my life but sometimes you create demons within yourself when your sinning and they never leave you hence why Salah and remembrance of Allah SWT is important. Otherwise intrusive thoughts can take hold of believer when their emaan is weak making them turn to haram. But through prayer and asking forgiveness is what keeps you going.
Thats not true tho, there's no evidence that someone who commits murder his prayer isn't accepted. That's not to say that it isn't wrong but these are to separate things.
They exist. I watched a documentary called the dancing boys of Afghanistan. Pedos were raping young boys. 20 on to one 1w year old boy 😢😢😢😢 it haunts me til this day. And those men prayed every Salah
It was on video. They didn't know they were being filmed. I hope and pray that man doesn't go to Jannah
Imagine the utter pain and disregard for the innocence and purity that Allah poured into that child, for 20 degenerates to go and take that away without his consent!!!!!
I dont blame them at all for misunderstading it tbh as most muslim who watched that clip did too.
👀 damage control
Now let do the opposite. Let say someone did all of those horrible think, no one should say, well if he didn’t make salaat that would be worse🤦🏾. Come on. This is emotional manipulation. Stop using the extreme to make a point. It makes everything seem pointless. Don’t defend this because it should never be used as a comparison. Tell the brother he is wrong for confusing people and let’s move on.
Well said, these street imams need to stop using silly childish extreme examples for everything. And they need to stop yelling too and learn to become more tactful and articulate
Damage control vidéo
Damn sisters from Yemen are attacking. They're being multiplied day by day. We need to retaliate.
Sisters are attacking? Attacking who?
Multiplied???
I don't think anyone will understand the message
@@AgnesMumbi-b3nhe is referring to bots in comments our sisters in Yemen are ok for their country standards
Lmaooo they are probably not even sisters and def not from Yemen
Just report and move on
@@nanashi7779 Doesn't work brother 😭
Aba is not new to Islam, His family is Muslim and he is no longer Practicing
yes his mom is a Muslim
he was never a muslim is a habashi jew
As a Revert I understand what he's saying ALL unrighteous is Sin if a Christian or Muslim ANY Person who doesn't Repent or Seek the forgiveness of Allah is equal especially to die and not be forgiven.
I was waiting for this 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Just based on the clip...... i understand what yall are saying but that take from the clip is wild. To me it sounds the same as living a life of horrendous sin and then accepting jesus christ as lord and saviour on your death bed makes everything okay.
Bro. I've had this sent to me before. Hoblos is using wrong analogies to drive the point home of the importance of prayer. There is a hadith of a lady that treats her neighbors in a malicious fashion; yet she prays, fasts, give in alms, etc. The Prophet (pbuh) said hell will suffice for her. This negates his stupid analogies. Worshiping God is not just through prayer alone, its through all actions, or your prayers are invalid & not accepted due to a polluted soul that sanctifies itself like an Antinomianist presuming atonement. It is Allah (swt) who gives sanctity to His/Its servants. NOT the ego! His analogies are trash because he's always emotional & extremely animated.
Muhammed holos don't think before he speaks it's all about feelings and yelling not principals
I’m 5 minutes into your video. So far you aren’t making this sound any better
😁 damage control
I'm not a fan of hoblos, he seems not to have deep understanding of the religion but tries to give lectures all the time.
You obviously don't know him, you obviously havn't watched his videos or sat inside a masjid and watched him in person.
He knows exactly what he's talking about.
You also have to emphasize that as muslims, we have to weigh our words and not verbally vomit what comes to mind in order to make a point. I believe his intention may be good (Allah knows for certain), but he delivered it in a manner that was not befitting a Daee or scholar.
The whole religion needs patch up explanations, which just further highlight it being man made. A man 14 centuries ago who didnt know anything except what was around at that time.
Jazakallahukhairan for your clarification and patience.
Brother Ali, very proud of you for the way you analysed and explained the issue at hand. Alhamdulillah
“The Divine Argument” ⚖️:
If a person cuts down a tree, he will have a punishment of a certain value
And if a person kills a person, his punishment will be greater
And if a person disobeys God, the “ Eternal ” his punishment will be different
First one is already faulty.
To say that the person who abandons prayer is worse than the one who sheds blood (for example) does not mean the one who sheds blood is “better”, let alone exempt. The condemnation of murder is very firm in the Quran, and every Muslim who properly understands the Quran understands this too.
The point of his speech is to demonstrate the condemnation of not praying, which is separate and has no effect on the condemnation of murder.
Maybe one could say “I don’t see why refusing to pray is so evil”. But now this is a different point altogether, necessitating the question of why that is so and on what basis something is considered good and evil, and to what extent.
Best comment here
I immediately unsubscribed from their account after I saw that video. Zero research. This is what they mean by ignorance is the source of prejudice.
Okay.
There is no context in which not praying is worse than murdering and graping.
Ewh brother what that brother
Aba's (dude on the right) family is Ethiopian Muslim. His mother in fact is a practicing Muslim.
SYDNEY CONTEXT:
Just for context, I live in the local area of Hoblos. I know the community lifestyle here. We have drug dealers and organised crime. People who need a very hardcore strong dawah style. Personally, this is not something I gravitate towards but I can understand why he was popularised in this area of Sydney. So I believe this context is also important in trying to understand the message he is trying to send towards HIS local community. He is trying to bring them back to basics.
I like his dawah. I'm from Manchester UK and I'm an Italian revert.
The youth need these tough talks. The soft talks the youth take for weakness.
@@Gaga4Parma there’s so many different types of personalities for the diverse community that is the Muslim Ummah, subhanAllah. They all serve a purpose for their own respective audiences. I’m glad you find benefit in his talks. As someone with anxiety disorders, I prefer the softer spoken who inspire good in a calmer way. Ali Hammuda is one of my favourites and The Muslim Lantern for debate style dawah.
You sure?
17:31 “Do not kill your children for fear of poverty”
17:32 “Do not go near adultery. It is truly a shameful deed and an evil way.”
17:33 “Do not take a ˹human˺ life-made sacred by Allah-except with ˹legal˺ right.”
17:38 “The violation of any of these ˹commandments˺ is detestable to your Lord.”
He said what he said this is a great example of why people fear y’all🤷♂️
U fear Muslims but u don't fear God? 😂😂😂
@@shutit7949 something that I have noticed about Muslims is y’all have a tendency to read or watch something and add things to it I didn’t
bring up God it’s crazy to me that we watched the same video and your confused at the response
@jessejacobs9856 stop dodging the question and answer it instead of yapping like a typical kafir
@@jessejacobs9856and they will call you islamophobic for it
@@samuelrigaud6595 I wouldn’t be shocked. They have a tendency to put words in peoples mouth.
Its like the difference between a sinner who is regretful vs a normal person who doesnt worship God
If we could do all that stuff in iur religion, then you would see a loooooot more of those disgusting sins happening throughout history and today, but we don't see that.
No further explanation needed. Ali mentioned some great points. Proud to be Muslim.
It's clear Allah sets a threshold where he says woe to those who pray ...
If the prayer is for show
Or if your prayer does not influence you provide simple assistance.
A sin is highly unlikely for a sincere praying muslim because he is standing infront of Allah 5 x a day acknowledging a day of judgement and asking for guidance.
Salah is a medication to remove the negative influences of materialism from our hearts and to connect to a deeper purpose and to connect to Allah (I.e. meraj)
The person who prays all day but 🍇s a child is far worse than a person who doesn’t pray
The point being made is that someone who prays correctly would not fall into great sins like raping a child. Allaah SWT Mentions in the Quraan Surely the prayer prevents from great sins and evil wicked deed, and surely the Remembrance of Allah is greater (29:45).
May Allaah SWT Grant us the proper understanding of this noble deen ❤
@@ramlahagi2674 Well said but people like Mohammed Hoblos should elaborate like you did. But they never do, they just shout ambiguous nonsense which is easily misinterpreted by non-Muslims. And in the process makes them think negatively of our beautiful religion of Islam.
@@ramlahagi2674 this is not the point being made, and your point is proven wrong by the woman who is sent to hell even when she prayed and had excellent Ibadah but was horrible to her neighbours
Why would anyone want to grape a child tho
He shouldn't have grouped pedophilia with the other sins like murder because pedophilia is much worse than murder or theft
huh? where?
@@maaztauseef7500 so you find that theft and murder are on the same level as forced sexual intercourse with a child?? 🤨
@@TimewornCookie6mohamed and Aisha is pedophilia
'Ali you were too apologetic.
The burden of proof is on them, the ones who claimed it is illogical, to prove why.
Ain't no way these guys are trying to disprove our objective morals with their subjective feelings.
You can't give dawah and just tell people to accept it. You need to be able to engage in back and forths with people. When people came to the Prophet PBUH and his companions with questions, they didn't just ignore those questions and say "I'm right, you're wrong." They gave wisdom and clarity.
Exactly @@baderaqw
I have learned the hard way I am in zero position to spread dawah.
Have to walk the talk first so to speak, but on top of that:
You spread the message, guidance is in Allah's hands.
I always had too much ego to do even that lol Astagfirallah.
Salam laykum.
Simple, Even in their religion, an infidel is worse than Killer and adulterer, and for us, the one who does not pray is an infidel.
also prayer prevents indecency and wrongdoing. Whoever truly prays will not do these actions.
Thank you for giving this opportunity to explain this to the ignorant folk out there who just take things at face value without even pondering on it.
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In Islam we have Law and Order, the greatest sin in Islam is failling to fulfil God's rights, but as bad is falling to fulfil the rights of people under God.
Those who make mistakes, repent and stop doing evil are better than those who never repent and stop doing evil because they will never heal and be healed.
That is a very wrong comparison he made and has given enemies of Islam to use this to turn people against Islam by spreading this clip. He needs to make another video to clear this misconception.
To late ⚠️
I like how you like how you correcting them on behalf of your brother in his defense and clarifying understanding of how serious Salaah is to the Creator, may Allah reward you
A person who prays 5 x will make mistakes, have weaknesses etc. But he won't actively be an active sinner doing alot of haraam...the two do not mix...unless his prayers are mostly movements and not spiritual worship!
Thank you brother Ali. I as a Muslim didn't just understand Hoblos when he said it but I also felt it and believe it has positively impacted my life and my daily decisions. I see the lecture (the entire video) as more suited for Muslims than non-Muslims. This point of view of Aba and Preacher is only because they are not believers and you're right to explain to them. Jazakalla khair
he saying do not stop praying even if you just commited sin
It's the understanding not everyone has because they are not ready if you knew ALLAH swt this explanation wouldn't be needed.
So we have this charming verse from the Quran (25:70): "Except for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good." Quite the spiritual laundering service, isn't it? And our scholarly friends assure us this is the height of divine mercy.
The esteemed Imam al-Ghazali even tells us, "The one who repents from sin is like one who has no sin." How convenient! I suppose Ted Bundy could've popped into a mosque, said "my bad," and presto - serial killer to saint!
But let's consider the evidence, shall we? History is littered with the corpses of the righteous, slain by those who later found God. I'm sure that's a great comfort to the victims - "Don't worry, dear, your murderer's now scored points with the Almighty."
It's a cosmic accounting trick that would make Enron blush. One moment you're drowning in sin, the next you're drowning in virtue - all without lifting a finger to actually right your wrongs. It's not just that the scales of justice are tipped; they've been tossed out entirely for a system that would make even the most corrupt judge say, "Hang on, that's a bit much."
But who are we to question? After all, it's so much easier to erase misdeeds with a celestial eraser than to actually grapple with the messy reality of human actions and their consequences. Why bother with all that pesky personal growth and genuine atonement when you can just flip a spiritual switch and - voila! - you're bathing in divine brownie points.
It's not justice; it's barely even coherent. But I suppose when you're in the business of selling afterlife real estate, you need a good returns policy. Shame on you Ali dawah 😑
Salam aleikum from Mali.
I’d say there should always be wisdom when arguing in matters of religion . The worst sins are unambiguously stated in the Quran as being the shirk and kufr. You dont need to leave those out and go bristling over anything else …even leaving prayer becomes worst only when it’s based on kufr rather than on negligence and washiness. Murder is in the upper worst sins … as mentioned in the Quran … : killing one innocent soul is like killing all the people; whoever kills a believer outside of justice or error Allah will be angry at them- curse them - and condemn them to hellfire; those who kill the prophets and kill those who enjoin the people to do justice will be awaited with a grievous punishment in hellfire. So, any sin that incur Allah’s anger, his curse and condemnation to hell in one shot shouldn’t be compared (as paling) to show the grievousness of another sin (except for shirk).
Moreover, why should we prefer that rough penal perspective of comparing sins (with risk of being taken out of context) rather than comparing the merits of good deeds? For exemple, why not put this way: saving lives, avoiding zina etc.. all have lesser merits compared to upholding good prayer… meaning prayer would be a superior virtue. You dont want to be just a stern warner ..but also giver of glad tidings. Didn’t The Prophet (ﷺ) say, "Make things easy for the people, and do not make it difficult for them, and make them calm (with glad tidings) and do not repulse (them ).” ?
You and your pretentious Imam are dead wrong!
You cannot rationalise the position of that maniac who masquerades as an Imam! And when you try to rationalise that position, you somehow make the impression of trying to justify what he claims, that “praying and sinning” is better than “not praying and not sinning”!
Nothing can be far removed from the Quran and Sunna tradition than that position which some so called Imam hold!
Keep quiet 🤫
@@mansaraysullayman2068 and who the f are you?!
That guy(mohamad hoblos) shouldnt be a source for knowledge.... hes far far far away feom that. Beeing famouse doesnt mean hes knowledgeable or can be a scholar . That guys maximum reach should be his family.
Those are nearly impossible scenarios in practical life but they emphasize the point. If one doesn't pray, they practically don't recognize God. The same way you have a friend but do nothing together or for eachother. No phone calls, no messages no help when in need. That friendship would disolve into nothingness quick. To believe in God is to worship God is to pray to God is to remember God in good and bad times. Saying one thing and doing the opposite is hypocricy, a munafiq. And those are among the worst of the worst in the Quan.
The sheikhs, imams and scholars are all aware of what inner modesty is in Islam (part of what is inner modesty is being mindful of what you speak). Therefore to make such an extreme analogy was not a good idea.
Whilst the sheikh has been misunderstood, this was a badly given example
Unfortunately Aba comes from a Muslim background may allah guide him back
The speakers message was sincere and it can be put like this ; If a Muslim commits A-Z sins does the worst of the worst then that does not equate to how big of a sin it is to not pray our Salah
This video just brought me closer to Allah and prayers. God bless Muhammad hoblos
Aba and Preach are in the right though. Hoblos messed up
They will tax you for islamophobia
Those two extracted a short part of a video and understood it out of the real context. Anti muslims on the net do that all the time. If i say hello to you, please dont go tell people i said hell .....😅
SheikhS needs to be held accountable for when they make mistakes, no one is above reproach. He has the wisdom to communicate better. These are major sins, he is discussing. God will decide whether you go to heaven or hell. So, this balancing act regards good and bad deeds instead of speaking about the beauty of good deeds.
This is why I like mohammed hoblos. He spits truths and doesn't care what anyone says 😂😂.
Anjem Chadoury >
You should've mentioned them in the title so that they can see this video. Just a suggestion. Great Video though!
Hoblos really didnt help himself here. What happened to wisdom
Yeah I hate it when these street imams just shout vague irrational nonsense that is easily misinterpreted by non-Muslims and makes Muslims look bad.
Go and watch the complete video before you vomit
@@beastvader😁 to late, y'all look bad regardless
Narrated `Adi bin Hatim heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying:
"Save yourself from Hell-fire even by giving half a date-fruit in charity."
Sahih al-Bukhari 1417
These two keep taking Ls outside of their anti-red pill content. They should've stick there.
“Religion is the masterpiece of the art of animal training, for it trains people as to how they shall think. ”
― Arthur Schopenhauer
Unfollowed the guys for this. I hate it when People talk without knowledge and then misinterpret things
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Assalam ailaikom
وعليكم السلام
Wa alaikum salaam warahmatullahli wa barakatu
As a muslim , i got the point sheikh Mohammed Hoblos wanted to make. Never thought like how these 2 guys did. It means they do need to hear the explanation and the intention of the things that were meant to be understood.
Let them know , whoever can reach out to them
I love Muhammad Hoblos. He only lives to please Allah. Let them make all the videos they want about him, he doesn't care about Aba & Preach's opinion of Islam.
People left islam after their video
"Neglecting to worship Allah is worse than committing other sins, as there are punishments for those acts, and not praying without a valid reason is a serious wrongdoing. We must prioritize worship and praying, as neglecting them only harms ourselves. Our lives should revolve around worshipping Allah, and salah (prayer) is the highest form of worship to Him."
Jazakallah brother Ali for clearing this up. Excellent explanations and video
Ma sha Allah brother best explanations always or clarifications . May Allah forgive us all and have Rahma over us . And pray that he don’t allow us to violate others Amin