I think it is less about respect and more about perception. He saw the sword, saw the shield on his back, and since they were at a tourney, put two and two together. Interestingly, it shows a stark contrast between Baelor and his impudent nephew Aerion, who thought Dunk was either a servant or stable-hand. Baelor is always weary of potential threats while Aerion is too arrogant for his own good and pays for it eventually.
I caught it. But I also was raise with a deep south southern hospitality upbringing. "Sir" and "Mam" just go with the territory. It is the default introduction before you even know the person's name.
This actor has played the part so well, he has single handedly made himself the favorite character of so many people. This show really is something else.
@greatdune3174yeah unfortunately people just have a need to suck I guess. It’s pretty clear 99% of videos are clear on whether they include spoilers or not. And the comments should respect it.
by having been awared the Olivier award twice and the Tony award as well. Unknown to most people, he is theater royalty and not some guy who auditioned and then went back to his job waiting tables to wait for a phone call.
They managed to do that with so many characters in this show. I loved Maekar the moment he said "I said fuck me not fuck him" and his "ugh" when Dunk is praising Baelor just because it was hilarious...but that last episode really sealed how great of a character he was. Lyonel was great. I even read the novella but the show made me love these characters even more. Then there were characters who either weren't in the novella or did nearly nothing that the show made great. I thought Gwin was hilarious. She clearly had a little crush on Dunk and got upset when he didn't want to gossip with her. When she comes back later to say she doesn't blame him for ruining her name day it made me laugh out loud. Red/Rowan cheering on Dunk during the trial was great. They really nailed this show so hard. Have to give a shoutout to Steeley Pate and Daeron who somehow managed to still be fantastic even though the show took out some of their greatest lines. I cannot wait for the next season.
Baelor reminds me of a leader I had in the military. He was the same way. Never yelled, never belittled just listened and was respectful. Yet he also had a real presence to him. Everyone respected him. You felt like you wanted to do your best not out of fear but so you wouldn’t disappoint him. The best leader I ever had.
I had 1 platoon sergeant and 1 1st sergeant the same way, you would do anything to make sure they looked good because you wanted them to make the world around you a better place.
@TheGetout04not most, some. Nobility are actually closer to your local town mayor than some distant people. Most nobilities are very active in their lands, often present to check on farms, artisans, blacksmiths and more. Nobilities. In fact most feudal lands are often unheard of in history because their nobilities are often competent enough to avoid drama unless fheir kingdom is pulled into war.
Baelor's mind set has na name: "Noblesse oblige" It means litterally that if you're of noble birth or basically super rich, it's your duty to act right and help others.
I also feel like it was Dunk claiming it was seven lances, is what solidified Baelor trusting him. Only Arlan's faithful squire would make a claim like that. Someone who undoubtedly heard the old man's exaggerated story hundreds of times. A liar wouldn't risk disrespecting Baelor like that,. After that exchange, Baelor vouches.
I also feel like if this was the case, it's possible Baelor was intentionally saying it's 4 even though it is actually 7 like Dunk was told. In any case, it was a masterful move.
No! Baelor says 4 lances, because he was there. He fought himself. The man who claims to be a squire was not there. He didn't count the lances. He only knows stories. False, exaggerated stories. If I was Baelor, there would be no reason to trust this guy. Any spy could learn the fake stories going around in taverns. But only the true squire would know the truth.
Baelor of course also respects that Dunk would want to defend the knight he squired for. He's not looking for a yes man, he's looking for men of honor who have the courage to stand up to a prince, and even better, the wisdom to stand down once corrected.
@andrew3203Nobody knew or gave a deuce about Arlan. Making up a story about him to gain Baelors confidence is so contrived, because no other noble even remembered who he was. Guessing Baelor would remember some random knight he dealt with 16 years ago who has no fame to his name, and as well no stories anyone anywhere talks about is just flat out ridiculous. So no, there is not a risk.
If I was Baelor, there would be no reason to trust this guy. Any spy could learn the fake stories going around in taverns. But only the true squire would know the truth.
They made the brothers more different in the show. Book Maekar is less irreverent, more Stannis-like. I think that change was a good move because of how short the story is, you need to exaggerate character traits a bit for them to really make an impression.
@ImmortalPhoenix-t8n Exactly that, simplicity. Just like GoT Seasons 1 and 2. The seasons that made everyone fall in love with the series. Just good casting and comprehensive storytelling. The show is good because it doesn't feel like it bears the pressure of a banger, and just lets GRRM's story tell itself.
Bertie Carvel did such a fantastic job as Baelor. My gf and I rewatched AKOTSK at the weekend and she was in tears when he rode out to join Dunk's side in the trial, knowing what happens to him, and simply sobbed "That's honour."
His voice is lovely. His cadence is amazing. Soothing but strong. Authority without venom. Intelligence without ego. He played Baelor perfectly. If this man did an audiobook, I would listen to it with glee. He could read me IKEA instructions and I'd find it interesting.
Showing a lot of people that true admirable masculinity requires sound judgment, humility and EMPATHY, something it seems is in short supply these days
@GregoryCrayonno matter how egalitarian we become we will always benefit from models of masculinity and femininity for storytelling’s sake (considering we are a storytelling species) and personal role modeling. I’m a woman and find Baelor an incredibly admirable character and role model, but the usefulness of the model for boys is a separate thing. By all means, admire noble traits in everyone, but it’s not a bad thing for people to hone in on the fact that he’s a spectacular model of masculinity. It’s not regressive or exclusionary or something people should refrain from doing.
Well done. As a former military officer I have witnessed senior officers who possessed these same traits. Good men who could cut thru BS with ease and make sound decisions quickly. Traits to admire.
Baelor is unafraid to be himself anywhere and infront of anyone because he's a formidable fighter. That's why he isn't afraid to let an unknown armed and huge man approach him like that. That he's confident in his own ability is the key ingredient.
Agreed, some of the most confident and best leaders I have met are men who are also skilled in combat in various forms but don't lead with it, and put their character and who they really are first, unafraid, and comfortable in who they are, only falling back to violence or what talents they if forced upon them or truly needed at that moment. My dad was like that, 24 years advanced infantry in the military including tier 1, he never had to prove nothing to know one, he was a very intelligent, wise, controlled and peaceful guy, but had a very commanding presence that calmed whole rowdy pubs as soon as he walked in or rose to the centre of it, he always used violence as a last resort but if you forced it on him you would 100% be getting an education. It is the ones who shout, threaten, bully and lead with the stick and have something to prove, are often not truly experienced or comfortable in fighting, and are often very erratic, uncontrolled, undisciplined pr cowardly when shit goes down for real.
10 years of pure and utter darkness? First season of the Terror was in 2018, Andor just had it's second and final season, Peripheral was in '22. Silo is currently running and it's pretty good, same with Severance. Shogun was insanely based. These are just off the top of my head, but aside from that there is a constant stream of interesting TV every year, more than i can find time watching. I heard The Pitt is amazing but had no time to touch it yet. I'd say tv is doing fine-ish.
I love how he remembers Sir Arlan even though someone of his status has no reason to do so. It shows that he is not just noble and respectful, but that he’s also knowledgeable in remembering every foe he has fought and every knight he has crossed paths with. He knows and understands his surroundings and he does not underestimate those considered lower than him.
I think the element of contrast is overlooked here. Maekar provides that. His reaction exactly how most nobles would react in the situation, further highlights the qualities of baelor.
Bertie Carvel is the actor and has been working for years, and I'm so glad he's getting this level of recognition. Sometimes all it takes is a small role in a show like this.
baelor is adapted so well, even better than i imagined him. he has this calm commanding charisma and the portrayal is spot-on. Taking command comes naturally to him. Love that he's getting the recognition despite having so little screen time and not being the main character. but also i found this scene a bit too casual. it's too easy for GRRM's world w strict social hierarchies for a random hedge knight to enter the hall without announcement and listen in on princes and lords, and then causally converse with them without guards stepping in. it sets the stage to show baelor's character and your analysis is really good. please do the scene with dunk, egg, and baelor. i believe that scene also reveals so much, esp with baelor's reaction to Egg.
I love Baelor's line "the septons say you should love your brother" because of the underlying meaning of "yeah I also hate the guy, but you won't see me make a scene about it"
@jarcodolo8734i interpret the look as "i don't want to go against my family & betray my brother, but my nephew is in the wrong. So you better win this fight."
Honestly a perfect cast for Baelor. For those of us who read the Hedge Knight, it suits the character quite well. Really hammers home the "what if?" knowing that Baelor had all of the makings of a phenomenal king. A great Targaryen, a great Prince, and a far greater man than most.
Baelor was just an incredible guy, he was authentic and warm to people his family treats like trash. And he was a badass to boot. I honestly expected (never read the story) him to turn out to be a bad guy he was too awesome. Love to see it
You’re missing the point. Obviously everyone knows they’re royalty, Maekar would have easily pulled rank BECAUSE he’s an arrogant prince. the point is that Baelor commands a room without NEEDING to remind ppl of his status
@prwincessquin He doesnot. The creator of the video (and to an extent you) made this comment within "modern" contextualization. It is impossible to create a setting which could depict in a realistic way people who actually lived during an era like the middle ages. One will always create or view a scene like that with the lense of a person from the 21st century. However, Royality not having to pull rank was very likely not in the creators' mind, when they composed this scene in order to establish Baelor's character.
A noble person is someone who elevates himself by elevating others. Those who receive respect understand and recognize that they must also respect he who has respected them. This is the very practice of nobility.
This isn't exactly what happened in the books, I'm sure that there is one of the kings guard within ear shot and at least 12 guards. This is carefully videoed out to make it more flowing for the audience.
@mawhulk The Seven Knighsuards have to protect the entire royal Family. The show is taking them out. When Aerion went to Valarr before challenging Humfrey, in the books, even Valarr had a kings guard with him in the books.
4:45 I would argue that was also him testing Dunk. He claims to be his squire, so if this hedge knight unhorsed a highborn, surely the hedge knight's squire would be able to translate a nickname to a true name.
Fair point, but what bothers me about the Ned Stark comparison is that while Ned Stark was honorable and thoughtful, he was badly behind the curve politically. Really wasn’t on point when it came to understanding the unique challenges of the political climate and how to navigate them. And complacent, certainly about the threat from north of the Wall, and bore his share of responsibility for the decay within the Night’s Watch. As opposed to Cregan Stark in HotD who got it and saw to it personally that the Wall was always properly manned. Baelor has the same big picture understanding of the threats he has to manage that Cregan does, in Baelor’s case the declining optics House Targaryan is facing, and that the political strategy should be to engage with common-folk more rather than less. He is thus proactive with measures and actions he knows could help improve House Targaryan’s image with the general population. And of course willing to put his life on the line for them. Ned Stark sadly was more reactive, in over his head politically. An honorable man, but a mediocre politician. A problem that was the undoing of Robb Stark too in spite of his battlefield success. Baelor is a good balance of all these traits: A solid leader and influence with the nobility, and effective battlefield commander, and a proactive, adroit politician with matters of the general population.
@fox2mike28Agreed. I think that while he stayed in his lane (should have never left Winterfell 😅) Ned was an excellent Lord and ruler of common people. He was fair, he listened, he didn't expect acts from others that he wasn't prepared to carry out himself (demonstrated of course by how he executed the men he had condemned himself) - and he had a strong sense of duty, not seeming to perceive himself as superior to commoners simply because he was a Stark and the Lord of Winterfell. However as you said he was terrible at navigating politics.
The dialogue in this show in general and the way the characters express joy anger or sadness is so true to the time period they are portraying. Breakspear's actor is the one who understood the assignment the most. His performance here deserves an Emmy award 100%
"Confidence and grace" is the best description of Baelor Breakspear, although I also like to use "quiet regality". Somehow, when the fires of the dragon (Targaryen blood) mixed with the heat of the Dornish sun (Martell blood), that union created the chillest, most level-headed, overall best Targaryen we've ever seen on television. It's like GRRM said, "OK, fine, I'll give you _one_ . I'll give you _one_ good Targaryen with basically no flaws that has the brains, the confidence, the strength, and the grace to bring about a Golden Era of Peace for Westeros." "...Totally gonna kill his ass tho."
I also think Baelor was able to be so gracious (not threatened by Dunk, look "better" than the rest of Targaryen) because Maekar was there. Maekar is able to be the guard dog that makes sure Baelor can look better, they really work like a hammer and an anvil
This show was a masterpiece, from the casting to writing to directing, everything was in perfect sync to make a fantastic medieval show. I hope this is a sign of things to come, no more misery porn like House of Dragons, stop beating our psyche into the ground and make something genuinely enjoyable
Dunk was already a squire when Pennytree met Baelor at the tournament, and Dunk was there to hand Pennytree each lance. Simply knowing the nickname of one of the most powerful men in Westeros (Grey Lion) was no real test. The real test came when Baelor pretended there were four lances, knowing that no squire would ever forget meeting a prince at a tournament. When Dunk reflexively called out the correct number of lances, Baelor had his proof. That was why he was pleased rather than angry at the answer. Because it was indeed 7 lances.
@berndschnuller6326your version is just flat out wrong. That was years ago, and Dunk is canonically 16 here. Dunk also said that Ser Arlan told him it was 7. He would not have to tell Dunk that if Dunk was already there to begin with.
I didn't even read your comment but I had to say: Heja BVB! I hope we can make the bundesliga a little more interesting, especially if we beat bayern on the 28th. Now that I did read it, interesting take.
Baelor basically gave Dunk an out from the awkwardness and impudence with his response of "stories grow." He probably also saw Dunk for who he was -- well meaning, but ill-advised -- and opted not to kick the man while he has his foot shoved firmly in his mouth.
And Dunk was at least smart enough and not be arrogant to challenge that "out". I think that is what made season 1 of this series much better than House of the Dragon. The main character is humble, developing and has little plot armour.
FR, he represents the political sides of Jaehaerys but I must say that Maekar gives Jaehaerys dad side vibes with the way he's so done with his kids. Aegon will probably go through same situation.
No, it was 4. In the books, Ser Duncan is around 16 or 17 years old when Ser Arlan dies. He wasn't old enough to squire for Ser Arlan when Arlan faced Baelor at the hastilude at Storm's End. I believe Ser Arlan's squire at that time would have been Roger of Pennytree.
@beeshor1 I checked the timing. Storm's End's Tourney was 9 years before Ashford, not 16 like in the series. Ser Arlan adopted Dink when he was five or six, or three or four years after Roger's death at Redgrass Field. So basically Dunk became his squire 199-200AC, right around the time for that tourney.
I'm happy to hear that. I checked the video again a few hours after I made this comment and it was only up to 33. To find out that it blew up overnight warms my heart.
This is a masterclass in character analysis! The way you dissect the power dynamics and Baelor's quiet authority is incredible. Your ability to translate film language into such clear insights is truly impressive. Thank you for this deep dive!
What a man. What a Legend. "A true king reigns in the hearts of his people long after he is gone" _the king who never was._ A man of Honor and integrity. Tribute, Respect. 👏🏻🙏🏻
Baelor and Maekar were basically polar opposites as siblings. Baelor was tempered and gracious, forgiving and merciful. Maekar, while not a bad guy, was still confrontational, quick to judge, bad temper and quick to fight. And still they loved each other deeply.
At first, i didnt like that they chose a guy who doesnt look "Dornish enough" but he convinced me with his presence and acting ability. I know his nobility is supposed to make his situation all the more tragic but he's still a very likeable fellow.
I just realized Baelor called Dunk “Ser” before he even knew Dunk was a knight. That’s how humble and respectful he is
I noticed and *instantly* liked this character. Then immediately hoped his honor and kindness was genuine and not some elaborate ruse.
I think it is less about respect and more about perception. He saw the sword, saw the shield on his back, and since they were at a tourney, put two and two together. Interestingly, it shows a stark contrast between Baelor and his impudent nephew Aerion, who thought Dunk was either a servant or stable-hand. Baelor is always weary of potential threats while Aerion is too arrogant for his own good and pays for it eventually.
i sure hope nothing bad happens to him
When I first watched I thought he called him "son"
I caught it. But I also was raise with a deep south southern hospitality upbringing. "Sir" and "Mam" just go with the territory. It is the default introduction before you even know the person's name.
You can almost hear George’s evil laughter as he plants this genuinely good man with noble intentions into a position of power and authority.
No dark haired Targaryen ever sits the throne
. . . before killing him off. :(
@profatenista Its like watching Ned all over again WHYYYY GEORGEE
@zeoplayz8021bro I genuinely think George hates what he created ge kills everyone even poor luke house of the dragon a boyyyyyyy
@zeoplayz8021 do not think ill of Ned Stark, but in the decisive moment he played his cards very badly, I fear...
This actor has played the part so well, he has single handedly made himself the favorite character of so many people. This show really is something else.
Too bad hes only in one more episode. whaaaaaat
He'd make a great king, he's the opposite of aegon the unworthy.
@scottstorchfan if thats a spoiler im gonna be very upset.
@TheGoddessPraisesYouBrother I feel obligated to warn you that unfortunately, it is. I didn’t want you to get your hopes crushed further.
@greatdune3174yeah unfortunately people just have a need to suck I guess. It’s pretty clear 99% of videos are clear on whether they include spoilers or not. And the comments should respect it.
The actor of Baelor's voice is like a soothing warm crackling open fire coming in from a cold winter day.
Another instance of great GOT casting.
He voiced the male Imperial Agent in SWTOR.
Bertie Carvel, he's awesome in everything that he's in.
Reminded me of Aragorn
He was also in Vikings and Homeland.
The casting for the show is a Masterclass.
Except for Steffon Baratheon and Tansel Too Tall, I agree.
@robbynines2445who is steffon baratheon?
@matusvrabel9557I meant Lyonel. Steffon is Roberts dad
Why not Tansel ?@robbynines2445
Can't wait to see who they get for blood raven
How in the fuck did this guy made this character so iconic with 10 minutes of screentime?
Amazing.
by having been awared the Olivier award twice and the Tony award as well. Unknown to most people, he is theater royalty and not some guy who auditioned and then went back to his job waiting tables to wait for a phone call.
The franchise is great at introducing a great good character and you are can be assured that person will die. Red Viper as well.
@igormorais4192i did not know this but it makes complete sense. In ten minutes he cemented himself as Baelor Breakspear forever
@GrYeYeS 🥲
They managed to do that with so many characters in this show. I loved Maekar the moment he said "I said fuck me not fuck him" and his "ugh" when Dunk is praising Baelor just because it was hilarious...but that last episode really sealed how great of a character he was. Lyonel was great. I even read the novella but the show made me love these characters even more. Then there were characters who either weren't in the novella or did nearly nothing that the show made great. I thought Gwin was hilarious. She clearly had a little crush on Dunk and got upset when he didn't want to gossip with her. When she comes back later to say she doesn't blame him for ruining her name day it made me laugh out loud. Red/Rowan cheering on Dunk during the trial was great. They really nailed this show so hard.
Have to give a shoutout to Steeley Pate and Daeron who somehow managed to still be fantastic even though the show took out some of their greatest lines. I cannot wait for the next season.
Baelor "Basedspear"
Ave Omnissiah!
Baelor Chadspear
Baelor goatspear
sir arland......huge spear
Baelor "Daddy" Breakspear
Baelor reminds me of a leader I had in the military. He was the same way. Never yelled, never belittled just listened and was respectful. Yet he also had a real presence to him. Everyone respected him. You felt like you wanted to do your best not out of fear but so you wouldn’t disappoint him. The best leader I ever had.
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I had 1 platoon sergeant and 1 1st sergeant the same way, you would do anything to make sure they looked good because you wanted them to make the world around you a better place.
@thezerowulf2046and they always did that’s the best part.
This is what a kind of leader I aspire to be. I hope I be at least half decent as these honorable and inspiring men.
The best kind of leader is respected because of who he is and what he does, and never pulls rank unless absolutely forced to.
"Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king"
What if he says I am the queen?
Saud the man who chose to ignore every threat that brought ruin to his family, that were all being called out by the man saying I am the king.
@coyoteprojecttywin didn't ignore anything but his children
@Airbreathingguy, then he slays 💅
Because a King is nothing without his People. And if the People accept him as King than he is King.
I need a Blackfyre rebellion spin-off with the same cast asap.
Hopefully we will have flash back episodes of key fights atleast
Nah literally like all with all the filler cat fighting in HotD they can film a couple extra episodes for this show w fan service lmao
@andybit1789the show is following the books only. Six 30 minute episodes a season, no room for filler.
Oooooo
Well if George isn't going to finish the book then that's the best option for him to spend his time on lol, we need that.
This is what true nobility looks like❌
This is what true nobility should be✅
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Jesus. They're all copies....
Yup, most nobles throughout history failed to meet standards, that's why remember those that did
@TheGetout04not most, some. Nobility are actually closer to your local town mayor than some distant people. Most nobilities are very active in their lands, often present to check on farms, artisans, blacksmiths and more. Nobilities. In fact most feudal lands are often unheard of in history because their nobilities are often competent enough to avoid drama unless fheir kingdom is pulled into war.
@cyfertea8707 facts💪
Baelor's mind set has na name:
"Noblesse oblige"
It means litterally that if you're of noble birth or basically super rich, it's your duty to act right and help others.
The first nobles and kings always earned their place, it's their grandchildren that lost their way
Yup its what nobility should be but never really was. Even in this current age the nobles are corrupt (see Epstein).
@a.m928that's because jews were never nobles. The real noble blood lines all died in past wars or became obscure normies like the rest of us
That's why nobility shouldn't be inherited but must be earned.
Just like Prince Andrew
Also: the royal family calling a Hedge Knight "his foe" is also a sign of respect
The laugh that prince Maekar gives when Dunk tries to correct Baelor is hilarious
Bertie Carvel! It’s insane because he seized Baelor Breakspear and made him real. Everyone cast for this is near perfection.
I also feel like it was Dunk claiming it was seven lances, is what solidified Baelor trusting him. Only Arlan's faithful squire would make a claim like that. Someone who undoubtedly heard the old man's exaggerated story hundreds of times. A liar wouldn't risk disrespecting Baelor like that,. After that exchange, Baelor vouches.
I also feel like if this was the case, it's possible Baelor was intentionally saying it's 4 even though it is actually 7 like Dunk was told.
In any case, it was a masterful move.
Interestingly, this fact only proves that Dunk was his squire. Baelor can't prove that he was actually knighted.
No! Baelor says 4 lances, because he was there. He fought himself.
The man who claims to be a squire was not there. He didn't count the lances. He only knows stories. False, exaggerated stories.
If I was Baelor, there would be no reason to trust this guy. Any spy could learn the fake stories going around in taverns. But only the true squire would know the truth.
Baelor of course also respects that Dunk would want to defend the knight he squired for. He's not looking for a yes man, he's looking for men of honor who have the courage to stand up to a prince, and even better, the wisdom to stand down once corrected.
@andrew3203Nobody knew or gave a deuce about Arlan. Making up a story about him to gain Baelors confidence is so contrived, because no other noble even remembered who he was.
Guessing Baelor would remember some random knight he dealt with 16 years ago who has no fame to his name, and as well no stories anyone anywhere talks about is just flat out ridiculous. So no, there is not a risk.
This guy is like a nice guy version of Tywin Lannister.
Not only nicer, but superior. He has no need to antagonize to command because he wields real respect, instead of fear.
so, not Tywin Lannister at all?
Tywin is a fraud, never compare him to Baelor
Tywin wouldn't have died in a tourney when he was next in line for the throne 🤣
@LastHumanFrequencyTMare you mocking Baelor, accidents happen. 😡😡
The actor who plays Baelor is so good, he reminds me of Charles Dance playing Tywin, that level of aura.
If I was Baelor, there would be no reason to trust this guy. Any spy could learn the fake stories going around in taverns. But only the true squire would know the truth.
He’s far more noble than Tywin, in every way.
yeah, I think of him as Tywin but good.
That's why ur not BAELOR@andrew3203
Same!
Baelor was the best casting, Maekar is a fitting one
They made the brothers more different in the show. Book Maekar is less irreverent, more Stannis-like. I think that change was a good move because of how short the story is, you need to exaggerate character traits a bit for them to really make an impression.
@aldeayeahthere's something about this series, something's about it's simplicity makes it so great
@aldeayeah Yeah, the writers and the actor have made Maekar so much more interesting.
@ImmortalPhoenix-t8n Exactly that, simplicity. Just like GoT Seasons 1 and 2. The seasons that made everyone fall in love with the series. Just good casting and comprehensive storytelling. The show is good because it doesn't feel like it bears the pressure of a banger, and just lets GRRM's story tell itself.
yes however it would be more acurate when both would be 10 years younger. But being a good charismatic actor is of course more important.
Baelor is absolute class, but honestly Maekar is such a vibe, he's just so done with everything and I'm here for it
Yeah he’s getting overlooked because his character isn’t really supposed to be liked that much but he’s doing an amazing job too
lol i think people are gonna be shocked to see baelor die its gonna be peak
@carson27378and who delivers the killing blow 😂
@fernandadiez106maekar
I'm looking forward to Maekar and Dunk's conversation in the finale
Bertie Carvel did such a fantastic job as Baelor. My gf and I rewatched AKOTSK at the weekend and she was in tears when he rode out to join Dunk's side in the trial, knowing what happens to him, and simply sobbed "That's honour."
His voice is lovely. His cadence is amazing. Soothing but strong. Authority without venom. Intelligence without ego. He played Baelor perfectly. If this man did an audiobook, I would listen to it with glee. He could read me IKEA instructions and I'd find it interesting.
Jonathan Strange and Mister Norrel he is great. its also an awesome novel, authors first book and won a Hugo I believe.
Look up his performance as the Male Imperial Agent from Star Wars the Old Republic. He's voiced that role for over 10 years.
Even in this modern day people are starting to understand the difference between hard and soft power and how both are equally valuable.
Showing a lot of people that true admirable masculinity requires sound judgment, humility and EMPATHY, something it seems is in short supply these days
EXACTLY. Oh, how I wish anyone in a position of power of any kind had the wisdom and grace this character has!
@karent4246couldnt agree more
You're just describing positive character traits for anyone to have. It'd be better to separate it from gender.
And sacrifice
@GregoryCrayonno matter how egalitarian we become we will always benefit from models of masculinity and femininity for storytelling’s sake (considering we are a storytelling species) and personal role modeling. I’m a woman and find Baelor an incredibly admirable character and role model, but the usefulness of the model for boys is a separate thing.
By all means, admire noble traits in everyone, but it’s not a bad thing for people to hone in on the fact that he’s a spectacular model of masculinity. It’s not regressive or exclusionary or something people should refrain from doing.
Well done. As a former military officer I have witnessed senior officers who possessed these same traits. Good men who could cut thru BS with ease and make sound decisions quickly. Traits to admire.
Thank you for your service. You admiring Baelor makes me think you were probably like him to other recruits as an officer, lol.
Its a shame they are so rarely represented in any military related media
@L@Leprechaunlockit’s a shame they so rarely exist in the actual military
@aturefrati7407you just got to look harder there are always honorable officers.
"a true king don't need to say he is the king"
Baelor Breakspear is so awesome. He is like if Tywin were a good person. That would have been the best king the seven kingdoms had ever had 😭
Or any kingdoms or fantasy world.
Tywin if he never lost his wife and she controlled his temper
Baelor's demeanor is amazing and the actors voice is wonderful to listen to
Baelor is unafraid to be himself anywhere and infront of anyone because he's a formidable fighter. That's why he isn't afraid to let an unknown armed and huge man approach him like that.
That he's confident in his own ability is the key ingredient.
Not formidable enough
Agreed, some of the most confident and best leaders I have met are men who are also skilled in combat in various forms but don't lead with it, and put their character and who they really are first, unafraid, and comfortable in who they are, only falling back to violence or what talents they if forced upon them or truly needed at that moment.
My dad was like that, 24 years advanced infantry in the military including tier 1, he never had to prove nothing to know one, he was a very intelligent, wise, controlled and peaceful guy, but had a very commanding presence that calmed whole rowdy pubs as soon as he walked in or rose to the centre of it, he always used violence as a last resort but if you forced it on him you would 100% be getting an education.
It is the ones who shout, threaten, bully and lead with the stick and have something to prove, are often not truly experienced or comfortable in fighting, and are often very erratic, uncontrolled, undisciplined pr cowardly when shit goes down for real.
Veteran of the First Blackfyre Rebellion and he earned his moniker of "The Hammer" at Redgrass Field.
This show is single-handedly giving me hope that we can still have good tv after 10 years of pure and utter darkness
10 years of pure and utter darkness? First season of the Terror was in 2018, Andor just had it's second and final season, Peripheral was in '22. Silo is currently running and it's pretty good, same with Severance. Shogun was insanely based. These are just off the top of my head, but aside from that there is a constant stream of interesting TV every year, more than i can find time watching. I heard The Pitt is amazing but had no time to touch it yet. I'd say tv is doing fine-ish.
Terror and Shogun. Nuff said.
Don’t be obtuse. You know what he means. So much garbage and slop made out of classic IPs.
@causticwit2286terror was so damn good. I loved Turn as well
SUCCESSION is the answer, buddy.
It’s refreshing to see such a nice guy in line for the throne
I love how he remembers Sir Arlan even though someone of his status has no reason to do so. It shows that he is not just noble and respectful, but that he’s also knowledgeable in remembering every foe he has fought and every knight he has crossed paths with. He knows and understands his surroundings and he does not underestimate those considered lower than him.
yeahhhh about that…
@whatupinvaders198Only the good die young 😭
I saw a brief interview with the actor. He seems as thoughtful as his character on screen.
I think the element of contrast is overlooked here. Maekar provides that. His reaction exactly how most nobles would react in the situation, further highlights the qualities of baelor.
the actor who plays Baelor, Bertie Carvel, is in a British detective drama called Dalgliesh, so good, highly recommend, he keeps me watching
Ooooh, thanks for the tip! I have a Britbox sub and I'm in between shows at the moment.
Yeah, he's fantastic in that too!
The actor is doing an amazing job!
Bertie Carvel is the actor and has been working for years, and I'm so glad he's getting this level of recognition. Sometimes all it takes is a small role in a show like this.
baelor is adapted so well, even better than i imagined him. he has this calm commanding charisma and the portrayal is spot-on. Taking command comes naturally to him. Love that he's getting the recognition despite having so little screen time and not being the main character.
but also i found this scene a bit too casual. it's too easy for GRRM's world w strict social hierarchies for a random hedge knight to enter the hall without announcement and listen in on princes and lords, and then causally converse with them without guards stepping in.
it sets the stage to show baelor's character and your analysis is really good. please do the scene with dunk, egg, and baelor. i believe that scene also reveals so much, esp with baelor's reaction to Egg.
I love Baelor's line "the septons say you should love your brother" because of the underlying meaning of "yeah I also hate the guy, but you won't see me make a scene about it"
Baelor’s actor is such a masterclass. If you look at him he is intimidating. But when he speaks you can see that he is kind and wise.
This guy made baelor, baelor, he was astonishing in this role. SOLID GOT GOAT
As Peter Cullen (the voice of Optimus Prime) once said: “Be strong enough to be gentle”.
9:14 just shows dunk might be slightly slow but he’s not completely stupid, and he’s humble and honest
00:23 that look Baelor gives to Dunk communicates SO much.
Like what?
@jarcodolo8734i interpret the look as "i don't want to go against my family & betray my brother, but my nephew is in the wrong. So you better win this fight."
@jarcodolo8734 Like "I better not die for this fucking bullshit".
baelor was pretty dreamy in the books but somehow the casting made him more so. fantastic breakdown and insights
He is just an intelligent and honorable guy. I miss characters like this, plain and simple but admirable.
Honestly a perfect cast for Baelor.
For those of us who read the Hedge Knight, it suits the character quite well. Really hammers home the "what if?" knowing that Baelor had all of the makings of a phenomenal king.
A great Targaryen, a great Prince, and a far greater man than most.
Baelor Chadspear in the houuuuse
Baelor was just an incredible guy, he was authentic and warm to people his family treats like trash. And he was a badass to boot. I honestly expected (never read the story) him to turn out to be a bad guy he was too awesome. Love to see it
"He doesn pull rank"
My guy, everyone in that room knew which ones were royalty. He didn't have to.
Youd be amazed at how many times people will remind you of their status in relation to something, anything, even when youre both fully aware of it.
You’re missing the point. Obviously everyone knows they’re royalty, Maekar would have easily pulled rank BECAUSE he’s an arrogant prince. the point is that Baelor commands a room without NEEDING to remind ppl of his status
@prwincessquinmeakar doesnt strike me as arrogant though. Just seem done and exhausted about having to do these things
@prwincessquin He doesnot. The creator of the video (and to an extent you) made this comment within "modern" contextualization. It is impossible to create a setting which could depict in a realistic way people who actually lived during an era like the middle ages. One will always create or view a scene like that with the lense of a person from the 21st century.
However, Royality not having to pull rank was very likely not in the creators' mind, when they composed this scene in order to establish Baelor's character.
@charliecederblad8900 Yes. Maekar is a soldier through and through. He is rash, unrefined but he is not a psychopath.
A noble person is someone who elevates himself by elevating others.
Those who receive respect understand and recognize that they must also respect he who has respected them.
This is the very practice of nobility.
Basically baelor is Ned stark of GoT, good men die in this universe
Baelor is far more competent and reasonable than Ned was
It just struck me, do they have any guards in the room? Maekar is kinda right to be om guard duty for his brother...
yeah, baelor let them go take a dump after the long ride so he's exposed :))
Maekar and Baelor needed eachother and they were a perfect duo, the hammer and the anvil. Its a shame what happened between them.
This isn't exactly what happened in the books, I'm sure that there is one of the kings guard within ear shot and at least 12 guards. This is carefully videoed out to make it more flowing for the audience.
crown princes doesnt really have any guards, even joffrey only has the hound around him.
@mawhulk The Seven Knighsuards have to protect the entire royal Family. The show is taking them out. When Aerion went to Valarr before challenging Humfrey, in the books, even Valarr had a kings guard with him in the books.
4:45 I would argue that was also him testing Dunk. He claims to be his squire, so if this hedge knight unhorsed a highborn, surely the hedge knight's squire would be able to translate a nickname to a true name.
nevermind
@generic_youtube_name9978LOL
Excellent reading of the scene.
Baelor Breakspear is the GOAT. Great video! Can you analyze his second conversation with Dunk too?
Baelor Chadspear, Baelor Goatspear.
Baelor Based
When you hold all the power and people still feel they can come to you for help rather than fear your reaction you know you're on the right path
Baelor is an example of a man with very healthy ego and no need to lessen other people around to feel better.
He has so little screen time yet he's presense is so impactful. He's is like the Ned Stark figure of this show
Fair point, but what bothers me about the Ned Stark comparison is that while Ned Stark was honorable and thoughtful, he was badly behind the curve politically. Really wasn’t on point when it came to understanding the unique challenges of the political climate and how to navigate them. And complacent, certainly about the threat from north of the Wall, and bore his share of responsibility for the decay within the Night’s Watch. As opposed to Cregan Stark in HotD who got it and saw to it personally that the Wall was always properly manned.
Baelor has the same big picture understanding of the threats he has to manage that Cregan does, in Baelor’s case the declining optics House Targaryan is facing, and that the political strategy should be to engage with common-folk more rather than less. He is thus proactive with measures and actions he knows could help improve House Targaryan’s image with the general population. And of course willing to put his life on the line for them.
Ned Stark sadly was more reactive, in over his head politically. An honorable man, but a mediocre politician. A problem that was the undoing of Robb Stark too in spite of his battlefield success. Baelor is a good balance of all these traits: A solid leader and influence with the nobility, and effective battlefield commander, and a proactive, adroit politician with matters of the general population.
@fox2mike28yes
@fox2mike28Agreed. I think that while he stayed in his lane (should have never left Winterfell 😅) Ned was an excellent Lord and ruler of common people. He was fair, he listened, he didn't expect acts from others that he wasn't prepared to carry out himself (demonstrated of course by how he executed the men he had condemned himself) - and he had a strong sense of duty, not seeming to perceive himself as superior to commoners simply because he was a Stark and the Lord of Winterfell. However as you said he was terrible at navigating politics.
4:21 Yeah he knows ball
Perfect comment
Literally when I decided to subscribe
Balls deep
What a skull crushing performance by the actor who played Baleor! Wow!
What a particular choice of words knowing how the character dies
Too soon 😂
They did him dirty 😞 he was a good person
He's growing to become my favorite Targaryen now. The actor and the show really did a great job at making him charismatic~
Baelor is a man, many men would follow and gladly die for.
The dialogue in this show in general and the way the characters express joy anger or sadness is so true to the time period they are portraying. Breakspear's actor is the one who understood the assignment the most. His performance here deserves an Emmy award 100%
he’s my favorite character of any medieval story ever and the actor absolutely nailed him
me too, i could have watched 50 episodes of his story alone.
Pound for pound British actors are the best in the world.
tbf most of them are theatre trained before getting into hollywood or movies and tv shows
They're definitely one of the best. I'll give you that.
Yeah the Brits in GoT are amazing
"Confidence and grace" is the best description of Baelor Breakspear, although I also like to use "quiet regality".
Somehow, when the fires of the dragon (Targaryen blood) mixed with the heat of the Dornish sun (Martell blood), that union created the chillest, most level-headed, overall best Targaryen we've ever seen on television.
It's like GRRM said,
"OK, fine, I'll give you _one_ . I'll give you _one_ good Targaryen with basically no flaws that has the brains, the confidence, the strength, and the grace to bring about a Golden Era of Peace for Westeros."
"...Totally gonna kill his ass tho."
That is a king. One I would probably have fought for had I lived in those times, in that world.
The fact that he's established to be so smart and has such great memory. He was so knowledgeable as well.
great video! baelor truly is one of the best, he's what a true leader should be
I also think Baelor was able to be so gracious (not threatened by Dunk, look "better" than the rest of Targaryen) because Maekar was there. Maekar is able to be the guard dog that makes sure Baelor can look better, they really work like a hammer and an anvil
Baelor would've been an amazing king.
This show was a masterpiece, from the casting to writing to directing, everything was in perfect sync to make a fantastic medieval show. I hope this is a sign of things to come, no more misery porn like House of Dragons, stop beating our psyche into the ground and make something genuinely enjoyable
Dunk was already a squire when Pennytree met Baelor at the tournament, and Dunk was there to hand Pennytree each lance. Simply knowing the nickname of one of the most powerful men in Westeros (Grey Lion) was no real test. The real test came when Baelor pretended there were four lances, knowing that no squire would ever forget meeting a prince at a tournament. When Dunk reflexively called out the correct number of lances, Baelor had his proof. That was why he was pleased rather than angry at the answer. Because it was indeed 7 lances.
No, he asked his test question on the lannister, and he didn't lie, it was 4
It wasnt 7. It was 4. That tournament is a longg time ago and Dunk is supposedly 16 here. He definitely couldnt have squired as a baby
@CH-zc8qx its a very commen theory, i may explained it bad. but whatever version u like more, go for it.
@berndschnuller6326your version is just flat out wrong. That was years ago, and Dunk is canonically 16 here.
Dunk also said that Ser Arlan told him it was 7. He would not have to tell Dunk that if Dunk was already there to begin with.
I didn't even read your comment but I had to say: Heja BVB!
I hope we can make the bundesliga a little more interesting, especially if we beat bayern on the 28th.
Now that I did read it, interesting take.
In just a few episodes, Baelor became one of my top 5 characters in the GoT universe
Baelor basically gave Dunk an out from the awkwardness and impudence with his response of "stories grow." He probably also saw Dunk for who he was -- well meaning, but ill-advised -- and opted not to kick the man while he has his foot shoved firmly in his mouth.
And Dunk was at least smart enough and not be arrogant to challenge that "out".
I think that is what made season 1 of this series much better than House of the Dragon.
The main character is humble, developing and has little plot armour.
if baelor become king he is easily on par with jaehaerys I
Buddy I got bad news for you……
@mattl8987 yeah i know, i don't mention the elephant in the room because I don't want to spoil it to the people that didn't read the book
FR, he represents the political sides of Jaehaerys but I must say that Maekar gives Jaehaerys dad side vibes with the way he's so done with his kids. Aegon will probably go through same situation.
He'd have been better on account that I think he'd respect the Faith of the Seven.
Oh my sweet summer child...
Maekar's always ready for a scrap
Dude was so fed up about everything lmao
And then GRRM kills him off. GRRM just wants his fictional fantasy world to burn.
It was seven lances. Dunk squired for Ser Arlan at that tourney. Baelor tested not only his knowledge, but also if Dunk is humble.
According to ser Arland... we as readers don't know how many lances there was.
It was 4, the lannister question was the test
No, it was 4. In the books, Ser Duncan is around 16 or 17 years old when Ser Arlan dies. He wasn't old enough to squire for Ser Arlan when Arlan faced Baelor at the hastilude at Storm's End. I believe Ser Arlan's squire at that time would have been Roger of Pennytree.
@beeshor1 I checked the timing. Storm's End's Tourney was 9 years before Ashford, not 16 like in the series.
Ser Arlan adopted Dink when he was five or six, or three or four years after Roger's death at Redgrass Field.
So basically Dunk became his squire 199-200AC, right around the time for that tourney.
@Ксения-ъ9б5у You're right, sir. I stand corrected.
The actor who played Maekar, Sam Spruell, is also such a great actor. Bertie and Sam as Targaryens definitely marked their spot in asoiaf…
Your work deserves a like and a comment at the very least, and certainly more than 27 views.
Now it has over 10,000 views, just like with Dunk good things eventually get discovered
I'm happy to hear that. I checked the video again a few hours after I made this comment and it was only up to 33. To find out that it blew up overnight warms my heart.
The actor who played Baleor is simply amazing!
Casting Andrew Huberman for Baelor was brilliant
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This was television at its best, unbelievable
This is a masterclass in character analysis! The way you dissect the power dynamics and Baelor's quiet authority is incredible. Your ability to translate film language into such clear insights is truly impressive. Thank you for this deep dive!
I was waiting for him to say, "The man was Hung like a Damn mule! Accidently seeing a piece like that will haunt a man for years." 😂
The honorable/good men in this world seem to die prematurely... Similar to the real world?
I actually rewatched this scene twice because it is refreshing to see a true classy character on tv
Baelor is the king!!!
What a man. What a Legend. "A true king reigns in the hearts of his people long after he is gone" _the king who never was._ A man of Honor and integrity. Tribute, Respect. 👏🏻🙏🏻
Baelor and Maekar were basically polar opposites as siblings. Baelor was tempered and gracious, forgiving and merciful. Maekar, while not a bad guy, was still confrontational, quick to judge, bad temper and quick to fight. And still they loved each other deeply.
His kids were missing and having random people walking in on royals is grounds for being moody. Where is the king’s guard?
@Itsmattz Maekar is like that 24/7 missing kids or no. Again not a bad guy, just moody.
Baelor also keeps calm and does not get emotional, like Maekar does. It gives him authority.
I was wondering why I loved this scene so much and the way you explained makes so much sense now. Thanks for sharing this cheers.
Agree, Great analysis.
Baelor was the best of them all. Miss my goat ✊😔
The cast is amazing.
Baelor was so fooking perfect!! My heart aches for him!! ❤❤❤❤
This video should have way More Views. Commenting for the Algorithum to pick it Up.
At first, i didnt like that they chose a guy who doesnt look "Dornish enough" but he convinced me with his presence and acting ability. I know his nobility is supposed to make his situation all the more tragic but he's still a very likeable fellow.
Très intéressant, merci pour cette analyse. Baelor est clairement un des personnages les plus charismatique et attachant.
Can’t wait to see Baelor in season 2!
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