Fallout 4 • Virgil vs Strong » Supermutant Cure - Good & Bad Choice
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You expected him to transform in front of your eyes? Do you know how much animating that could cost?
lol i never thought of that
lol i never thought of that
They animate the synth factory.. This would be easy as f***. It's a funny line that was better than some damn eye candy
***** Unless there was an actual feature that turns humans into super mutants or vice versa, spending the time to actually animate that stuff wouldn't be very cost effective to warrant putting that in.
How awesome would it be to be able to slowly turn into a ghoul or supermutant though? Like if you stay radiated for too long.
***** It's the ideals of the BoS. Righteous cause but kind of Xenophobic. Kill anything that isn't human. If anyone would look for a cure in this game it might be the Institute.
Plot twist : the "milk" Strong is searching for is actually the serum.
+Austin Driver Hahaha
Zachary Taylor The milk strong wants is actually semen.
+VeggiePandya Lover's Embrace
'Milk of human kindness taste funny.'
that should be in dlc
+AlienMagi plot twist the milk strong wants I'd actual milk
Note to self: don't take strong on a missions concerning super mutants
+starburststream480 no he likes to smash his brothers-- say minutmen quests or so
ok
+starburststream480 Why did you say that?
+LastGREATEST trying to be funny
Except for fort strong you can make him love you.
"I get to live in a cave, fantastic i think I'll take make chances with the syrum"
Takes cure and doesn't leave cave and can no longer survive the radiation of the glowing sea and is permanently stuck in the cave until he runs out of food and dies...
+The Swedish spirit our uses hazmat suit/ power armor to exit the Glowing Sea!
Vasco Duarte Obviously he doesnt have power armor, and im not giving power armor to him....
And somehow, given what he does have, and what he has on him, i doubt he has a harassment suit...
harassment suit?
The point of being in the cave was to hide from the institute, and I suppose being ordered around by other super mutants or killed by wastelanders by living somewhere else would have been a problem to him, but he certainly had more than one option as a super mutant.
1000g2g3g4g800999 *blows up institute tells him about it, still doesnt move to my settlement or diamond city*
super mutants are stronger? As a mutant he was dropped by a shot to the leg, but as a human he took a shotgun blast to the face and kept fighting...
Scripting. When you activate that part, he'll die to a punch to the toe (kinda regret not doing that for further comedic effect).
Poor Virgil making the vital mistake of trying to kill the main character
that reminds me of the best fail in video game logic ever,GTA 5,get hit by a huge airplane and explode,wake up in hospital,at the end of the game Trever burns in a fire,actually dies
You... Killed Trevor? I went along with my deathwish... Killed the corrupt bastards
And he KNOWS you killed both Kellogg and a courser... what an idiot
I never even thought to use the serum on Strong. Hmm...
you can't. Virgil modified the FEV so that he can specifically make a cure for it
@@demeritnationwriters probably didn’t want to include it.
@@polishherowitoldpilecki5521 writers thought about their own laziness, the FEV cure was a reverse version of FEV with Virgil’s own genetics. In a simple way, there is a Virgil FEV
I always wondered why you couldnt just bring the cure to Maxson at the Brotherhood (assuming you sided with them or didn't destroy them), Scribe Neriah sure looks capable enough to continue Virgil's research to heal the FEV mutations, and Im curious how would Maxson react to the possibility of saving supermutants instead of killing them...
+FDVlogger Well Danse doesn't seem happy about curing Virgil, probably because he was once one of the things they aim to kill, so I can't imagine Maxon being any more lenient about it.
LewisB776 He is a bit of a Psycho (Maxson), but maybe he's still human enough to feel compassion for the Mutants, after all they are just sick people when you think about it... Would be nice to have the choice is my point, after all the main story line is a bit too lead by the nose, sure the game is a sandbox, but most of the fights break out one way or another... Like the Battle for Bunker Hill, It's a big F* you, because even if you tell the brotherhood and the railroad or not, they will all be there, ready to fuck each other and you if they are your enemies...
Oh no I agree with you, I think it'd be better to give it to Neriah or even Strong, and see what would happen. Just don't think Maxson would agree with it is all :(
LewisB776 If you cure Virgil Strong hates it, so... yeah, the big guy would probobly just smash it... Neriah on the other hand I think she could actually do it, heal the mutants
+LewisB776 there's a cruel irony when it comes to danse hating anything non-human.
So messed up! Lol poor Virgil! Also Strong is voiced by Sean Schemmel, AKA Goku! I had no idea, until I looked up Strong on the Fallout wiki haha.
+RandomJeanc Aye, I only copped on once people started mentioning it (same as Garrus, Jack and all the other ME3 cast). Lot of talent in F4, voice wise.
Haha pretty amazing.
+RandomJeanc Don't forget the voice of Garrus!
+RandomJeanc Someone should tell TFS this. They can journey the Commonwealth with Super Mutant Goku. Explains why he's called Strong. I wonder if Fist was Vegeta......
Eric D. Lol I wouldn't be surprised. I checked but no, he wasn't :/ that would have been EPIC though.
I wonder if you can give the serum strong and tell him it's milk of human kindness
+darude dinkstorm or because he's stupid just say it'll make more... Super mutanty
Wouldn't work on him unless he was transformed by the exact strain of F.E.V. that changed Virgil.
Considering that strain had been modified in a lab, it's pretty unlikely they would match up.
+The Zigzagman OK scientist mcscience face
I'd like to see what strong looked like before he was mutated
+N Elton he probably was born as a super mutant because he's noticeably stupid and loves to be a super mutant
LOL I laughed so hard when "STRONG LEARNED RESPECT"....
STRONG learned "RESPECT". but STRONG already has too many moves! please choose to remove a move.
-SMASH
-GRUNT
-TAUNT
-SHOOT
+Dank Cheese lmao
+Dank Cheese Living up to your name eh
I lost it when Strong said “Strong impressed”
What minute it is
I wonder if super mutants will become extinct in the next fallout game due to virgils discoveries
Not likely without a full Fallout series reboot like they're doing with Mass Effect. If they stick how it is, SM's will still need to be around to cater for certain past decisions (such as helping/hindering Vergil), assuming any of F4's story has any impact whatsoever on future (non-DLC) Fallouts.
Virgil said it would take decades to possibly generalize the cure. The experimenting went wrong before, his "cure" could very well lead to a new strain of super mutants far worse than the ones that exist. Just because he cured one strain doesn't mean that his tampering will lead to a cure.
That would depend on how it is experimented with. There's no logical reason for any of it to be tested on humans or non-super mutants, so that leaves supermutant lab-rats. Worst case, they become super-duper mutants as opposed to cured. I don't see it leading to a full-blown 'new' strain outside of mutating the already mutated. Regardless, this was all setup in a way where any outcome is possible, but we won't see any of it in the near future (heck, maybe not at all depending on where they take the series from here).
***** You don't see it happening again? The FEV was meant to cause evolution and look at what happened. I can imagine a dozen scenarios in which the cure seems alright until the "cured" people are allowed back into the wasteland.
Yes, but the situation involves one lone guy without any support generalizing a single-strain cure that has no real reason to be used/tested on normal people (and won't be seen for, at least, two decades if he's even remotely accurate and we assume he makes it a reality), versus other examples like a faction kidnapping and forcefully dunking unwilling people into vats full of gunk to create supermutants en masse. Again, all I can see is a case of SM's becoming Super-SM's or something worse, but whatever happens will be down to the devs (and it'll likely be something completely different to what any of us expect, if it is even mentioned again at all).
Sooo ...
What now ? He's stuck in a cave , glowing sea outside,he's a human
Where will he get that from ?
Im still confused on how he became a super mutant. You can only be turned into a super mutant with the FEV virus...not radiation
+Jacob Robinson he was turned by Institute experiments if I am remembering correctly
+Charles Smith He infected himself so he could hide in the glowing sea
❆Mojunez13❆ I'm sure he would of prepared for the journy back. Maybe the Children of Atom got him ingredients to make it.
thats mean strong loved it when you drove virgil to kill him self
Hes a super mutant so he likes it when a human dies
Jacob Robinson but he was a super mutant when he killed him...
amanoncrack what? Speak English please.
I don't know who is really confused here, or is trolling, but you're both a (funny) joke to me.
amanoncrack yeah because the comment thread is definitely something you can "win".
Spoilers:
I forgot about Virgil and blew up the institute with no serum so I killed him.
Omg me too lmao
+Jay “ImFlabalicious” Davies its a long walk to the little shithole in the glowing sea anyways, and too much work to fast travel
NobleNoob4Life
It honestly isn't much work to fast travel...
YES IT IS
It's called fast travel because it isn't much work.
I kind of did both. I cured virgil and then dismembered him and ate him. My guess was human meat tastes better then super mutant meat
+Guy The Second wtf
+Guy The Second Hey, at least it wasn't ghoul. :P
+Senaneone Or was it.
+LightningSnipers no he he wasn't a goul
+Alan Polanco ghoul
I forget the serum in the explosion of the institute
She made me mad so I killed her
then the institute got mad at me and I was killed whenever I went in alone
Ethan Rolfe I built liberty prime...
+Ethan Rolfe Or the brotherhood xP
I had to go to robot town (not the real name) to find a backup scientist
yea me too
Has the reverse-transcriptase survived the uh nucleotide synthesis?
Doesn't the reverse transcriptase look for mutations in the DNA during its synthesis?
+PlazmaCow Does*
No, it's a viral protein that turns RNA into DNA so the viral genome can be inserted into the host's. We hijacked it for molecular biological purposes.
Oh yeah? Up yours too, buddy!
Without Virgil, you can't get into the Institute. He deserves the serum, he deserves to be human again.
if you used it on strong what would he be. I say a lawyer.
+papacreeperBOOM Strong would be a writer.
A librarian
A vault tec scientist
PTSD-afflicted soldier
PCBOOM a poet
i cured Virgil but he hated me for blowing up the institute and then attacked me so I killed him
I only just remembered his situation, I've already nuked the institute so his cure is gone now
i blew up the institute, and gave him his cure, he seemed happy enough, then Captain Kells told me to kill him. So I did. Another victory for the brotherhood, Ad Victoriam. I hope I live long enough to witness the brotherhood's next triumph
+WILL TRAP4 FOOD death to the brotherhood. Do you have a Geiger counter?
+Blasteroid 5 Sounds like something a synth would say...
BLASTEROID 5 on me pipboy?
The last one
You go through the trouble of searching the abandoned FEV labs (which has a hostile assaultron, btw) to get the serum, and you end up killing virgil
Well if your character is an awful person... Like for the molerat kid who got sick, I got his serum and sold it, after I told the doctor that I had it.
I sold the ghoul kid into slavery
i'm still impressed Strong was able to understand what words Virgil used
I did have a laugh
Strong isn't as dumb as you initially believe. If you listen to his comments in certain areas, he's tactically intelligent for one. Something that many are not.
He got the buckshot of human kindness.
Can we stop a moment and acknowledge the fact that this woman has *extremely* good taste in fashion.
My character was a sucker for bad-ass leather garments ^^
I wish bethesda made the game to be more like a role playing game like f3 and nv were.
It just feels like there isnt enough choices in the game.
+Jonathan Moreno ikr
Fallout 3 had less roleplaying than Fallout 4, imo.
+Jonathan Moreno Different development company, i think
Cian Farrell FO3 was from Bethesda. NV was from Obsidian
I hate it when you shoot someone in the head in this game and it doesn't insta kill them. Totally breaks the immersion for me.
There's a mod for that...
Jason Chase
Wonder if that will make it's way to the Xbox One then?
Games don't do that because it literally gets rid of any point of the fucking game.
WTF are you talking about how does it get rid any point of the game that literally makes no sense. 1 hit headshots just make more sense rather that shooting away at an enemies head which is total BS.
Guys, it's an RPG, not a tactical shooter. VATS already makes the combat trivial even with bullet sponges, so having insta-headshot deaths regardless of weapon or character levels would wreck any sense of character progression, which is what you play an RPG for in the first place. You can mod it if you wish, much like you can reduce the difficulty so that everything dies in a few bullets if you want 'realism', but I hate using words like that with games involving nuclear apocalypse, zombies, super-mutants, gargantuan insects etc. etc.
.... Fawkes should be in fallout 4....
Yeah he was my favourite follower in ANY Bethesda game
+193 Roman 193 I loved Fawkes too, but he was way too overpowered
+Hobo Bobo true true
I'm pretty sure he died in NV.....
+Nacho Man what drugs have you been taking? he wasn't even in new vegas
Well, at the end of the game, you have the option to make your son a mutant so he can live longer. If this guy makes a serum, then end the long run, the son can eventually turn back human but without the cancer.
It would have been so cool to have a super mutant cure dart for the syringer
And then you stand around for weeks waiting for it to work
My first play through I joined the Institute and forgot about the serum. Eventually I remembered Virgil existed so I went and told him I couldn't find it. He freaked out so I blew his brains everywhere with a six crank Laser Musket only to later find the Serum that i have no use for now xD
HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET A SIX CRANK???
+Rusty 1851 Do you use the weapon workbench?
I don't do science for energy weps at the workbench, I found my six crank at the Castle Armoury
Why would anyone even consider the nasty side of this mission?
Renektonisbae I’m a dick
a) You want to make the best out of not finding the cure. b) You want an easier end to the mission. c) You just want to watch the world burn in a cloud of dicks.
"I get to live in a cave.. Fantastic!!"
Hey everyone, just wanted to drop by and thank you all once again for all the interesting points and discussions. I know the volume was a little low, but glad people got to see (and discuss) this interesting point in F4.
Alt-tabbing out of the game to look for tips etc. and not having to turn the volume down was a pleasant surprise for me.
Well I'm glad at least one person saw the volume positively ^^
volume wouldn't have been an issue if you'd have enabled the subtitles
Yes, well, some of us play the game at a level they can actually hear clearly enough not to need them. I never even suspected the video would be as watched as it is, so if I had known, I'd have re-loaded, enabled subtitles and/or turned up the volume. Still, louder version has since been supplied.
It's a bit ironic; when I lied to Virgil and convinced him to end his life just so he wouldn't have to endure the horrors of being a Super Mutant, Strong loved all those choices :p Strong confused.
"Theres only one way to test it.""Protect and serve"
Wish you could let strong take the serum
Man the more I see supermutants and gouls the more I wanna fallout game where you can choose to be one of them
0:25 I feel bad for strong, He genuinely fought back trying to not be aggressive here, He wanted a real conversation because has real strong (no pund intended) About protecting and defending your race as a whole.
Imagine a dlc where you go around with a syringer loaded with fev cure. Maybe give it to the bos and their scientists could help Virgil create a broad spectrum cure.
where did you find the chain armor thing for strong? i need to find it D:
+swahini should be at trinity tower, you can just google it.
+swahini I didn't feel like finding super mutant armour which is basically the reason i don't have him as a companion. equipping your other companions and settlers with armour is enough work as it is !
0:56 the first time strong likes something...
Man, watching this video... it... it gave me a weird feeling about this game... I don't know, it felt like the dialogue, despite having a voiced protagonist, was less personal than New Vegas... and that there wasn't as much passion in the voices... Especially at the end where you say Strong is right and he immediately pulls a gun instead of trying to convince you or anything... :/ I don't know... that's just how I felt about it...
The main writing was weaker in 4 than previous games, definitely. They made improvements with companion dialogue and characterization, but the other writing suffers. Then again it's Bethesda. They're really good with the worlds they work on, but not so much the dialogue and writing.
As much as I love Fallout 4, not as much as Fallout new Vegas, it always bothered me that you couldn't cure strong. And it sounds like that concept wasn't even thought of.
I was in the city and I randomly see strong so I beat his ass with a bladed board 10/10 would beat again
Shame you cannot trick strong into thinking that Serum is a milk with a charisma check
Strong is the most annoying companion
Bradley Tucker Who needs companions lone wanderer and dog meat is all ya need with some power armor of course.
Bradley Tucker true that.
No, it’s Preston Garvey
@@fennidkboi1298 Another settlement needs your help. I'll mark it on your map.
*Babe*
@@catto6028 atleast its not raining
Curing the FEV would be a major step towards rebuilding a sustainable infrastructure in the US wasteland. If you can't make enough of the cure figuring out how to control them could be even more beneficial. Shooting them with a chip that allows you to control the decisions of SMs would be fantastic. You could use the SMs to thin out the Raiders.
hey great video but the audio was a bit too quiet.
+NateZammit Thanks. Description.
Put up ur volume
Piggy is coolz It was up all the way (thats what she said)
In real life I would've supported Virgil, his work can improve and save thousands of lives in the Commonwealth, hell maybe the Capital Wasteland, or even the entire American East Coast.
It's extremely rare that you find a Super Mutant who doesn't want to rip you apart on sight, generally they attack people and raid settlements.
I'm sorry but people bringing up the counter argument of "consent" for curing Super Mutants is complete bullshit to me, I honestly do not see the negatives anywhere on turning all Super Mutants back into humans.
I was actually hoping that you could mass produce the serum and then use it with the syringer to turn all super mutants into humans.
That had been awesome, sneaking up, use the syringe gun. Sneak away and come back a bit later and find confused humans in amour that doesn't fit anymore.
I just absolutely love strong. Best companion ever. Except he doesn't like it when you sneak around. It's suitable for people who like to go guns blazing or smashing.
+Ardalan Owrangi Yup, he was hard to rep with my character (talker / rifle thief), but he does like generous dialogue (minutemen missions, aggressively).
+Ardalan Owrangi inteligence 1 strenght max guns max ... best companion strong xD
+Ardalan Owrangi too bad he's just a generic super mutant with no real interesting factor. Just ends up being another one of the super mutant companions which has been done so much better with Fawkess and Lilly
Milk is secret to humans. Mack Beth say milk make humans strong. Stronger than super mutants. Strong find milk, drink milk. Make super mutants stronger than humans.
+Mr. Sweet I don't give a rats ass about Strong. Fawkes? Now him I loved.
Go team strong
yes far away
+Mike Carr Bruh 😂😂 I'm done
Fuck off brony
I wish you could give the serum to Strong, that would've been funny
When i go in to talk to him he just attacks me idk why.
+Illuminati_watching You can't attack any of his security measures. Doing so makes him hostile.
+Borderline5440 no I shot the light and he didn't care
+Myst Plazma The game may be inconsistent, but shooting the light made him hostile towards me when I went through there. You can't shoot any of his stuff.
+Borderline5440 I used a suppressed weapon so that could be why
+Illuminati_watching If you wait too long to bring him the cure after leaving the institute, he will fully revert into a super mutant and will be hostile. You need to bring him the cure within a week of leaving the institute.
I would have liked Virgil as a super mutant side kick. Imagine that a sassy hulk following you around, firing off sass filled lines of wit as you pick up every seemingly useless piece of scrap.
He gets pissed if you destroy the institute
Strong is so right. Curing a supermutant is like making a black person white. Diversity should always be preferred to homogenity. It doesnt matter if someone is a human, ghoul, supermutant or a deathclaw. Your all equally beautiful
+Julmor Fallout 4: SJW edition
+Julmor Lemme rephrase that for you: "Strong is so right. Curing a super mutant is like giving them freedom of opinion, super mutants should accept who they are and should not willingly cure themselves
more like turning a deathclaw into a chameleon
but black people weren't white in the first place lmao
+Mehmet Ali Demir lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The worst thing you can do is give him the serum and make him human again, As you have then made him a prisoner in the cave as he has no way of leaving and not dying of the radiation outside.
I wanna see a mod that gives strong this memories back maybe where virgils lab is? And the mod creator can voice an intelligent strong
um
When I reentered virgils den he instantly attacked me?
|Watches Video|
Dog Hates That.
I get to live in a cave, fantastic. I love that line
Shoots Super Mutant Vigil in the leg and kills him.
"Strong loved that"
I understand when it was human Vigil, but Super Mutant Vigil? lol
He loves it either way - this is a Super Mutant who wants to be Human again (Mutant Virgil) and/or wants to turn other Super Mutants into Humans (Human Virgil). I wanted to kill him by punching him in the toe-nail but had activated VATS with a rifle and figured I'd roll with it.
Wow, this was really interesting. Thank you for recording this! The assisted suicide ending was really something - I have been wondering if that was possible - and the last one where he attacks you for disagreeing with his plans was very surprising to me. I wasn't expecting that at all.
I can't wait until I can upgrade my laptop and play Fallout...
+mousemuffins Glad you liked it - enjoy the new laptop :)
"Theres only one way to test it, protect and serve!"
Thanks for doing this, nice to see other versions.
6:06 the muzzle brake disappears when she shoots lol
+Teh Bacca Never even noticed it myself - nice catch ^^
He couldn't even raise his gun
You would have thought he would have wanted to return to a human state in a none radiated environment.
Virgil: you can't be serious, just look at me, at least my face isnt covered in fucking chains!
I forgot to find the Cure and I accidentally destroyed the Institute without looking
that would be crazy if strong was actually a teenager. Cowabunga dude
I wish Bethesda had made it so that if you became director of the institute you could pardon Dr Virgil and bring him back home.
This doesn't make sense. He wasn't expelled; he escaped!
the funny thing is... when i first came to the instetute i uhhh....kinda forgot virgil serum aaaaannnnnddd blew it up the instetue...ups
6:05 I guess that muzzle brake.... broke
Sucks that this is really the closest thing you get any sort of companion quest for Strong.
Nice video. Keep up the great work. I will definitely be back to see more videos.
Virgil must have not thought things through... How is he supposed to leave the cave now that he isn't immune to the glowing sea? As a human, he wouldn't last 5 minutes out there. Logic would have dictated he took the serum anywhere else.
"Hey"
Strong: HNNGH
tag yourself I'm the protectron in the background
Well, there are so many missed opportunity in this game.
Ask Virgil to return to the Institute where he can continue the project safely.
Give te serum to Strong and turn him to a human.
So many missed opportunity.
Shame the volume is low, and theres no subtitles. A remake would be pretty cool, but till then? This'll do just fine. Thanks for sharing!
strong learned respek
You better put some respeck on his name
+Tristan Seguerra No, you respect his name
"You roll up on Fawkes that way?"
"I'm rolling up on YOU, nigga"
the moment u find out ur traveling with goku
" I get to live in a cave, fantastic "
"I get to live in a cave, yay"
Stay away from his cave
Blew up the serum in the explosion of the institute (for the minute men) then I talked to the captain of the pryden and he orders you to kill him
+VenTiion Same lmao
If he's already cured you don't have to, but you did destroy the institute so who gives a fuck?
+Trinnity Marsters the BoS bigots
You know there's a reason I slaughtered them all (actually the reason might have been maxon's coat)
OMG, I severely underestimated how evil you can be! Lying to someone and then talking them into assisted suicide..I was going to replay this as an evil person..but I dont think I can even pretend be THAT evil..:(
+Piper Wright It's a computer game - it's all pretend. Secondly, this isn't even the most evil thing you can do. How about refuse a dying kid medicine because you want to keep it for yourself? There's probably other choices, too.
+RopeDrink just because it's fiction doesn’t mean it's not fucked. same as games like Life Is Strange. ***spoiler alert*** there is no way I'm killing an animal, the stats say most ppl agree on that. plus I murdered and ate Danse, just the suicide thing is particularly creepy and manipulative. and yes I also have molerat disease now!
Virgil becomes a bit salty if you destroy the instatute if you side with the Minutemen, Railroad, or Brotherhood of Steel
6:05 muzzle projectile 😂
Imagine if the cure was used on lily Bowen from Fallout new vegas lol she would just be your regular grandma.
Breaking fucking news, Strong disliked that
Why did Virgil get so pissed when you tell him to stop? IT seems like his cereal was shat on pretty explosively.
When I saw the video I was hoping for a second that they might have had some actual content to go with this. Nope just killing a character that stops having a point right after that quest anyway.
Strong sounds just Ironbull from Dragon age Inquisition
Says mutants are tougher but dies in one shot to the hip. But as human takes one to the dome and lives lol
Strong sounds like evil mask from crash bandicoot
0:04 Dr. Manhattan approves