Former Pagan and Sutars Soldier Speaks Out Against Motorcycle Clubs
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2021
- On this segment of Motorcycle Madhouse Morning Mayhem I interview an ex member of the Pagans Motorcycle Club who was also a part of the founding of the Sutars Soldiers MC. The Sutars Soldiers is a breakaway of membership from the Pagans MC
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Former Pagan and Sutars Soldier Speaks Out Against Motorcycle Clubs
Pagans mc the most vicious outlaw motorcycle gang in america.
a 15 minute news conference held at the edinburg texas police department on february 26th to announce the arrest warrants for 42 members of the mongols mc and pagans mc in connection to the assault of a bandidos mc member at a local strip bar on february 14th. most of the violence carried out by the pagans is directed to rival omgs such as hells angels ..
30 pagans mc arrested i federal bureau of investigation.
unlike most one percenter motorcycle clubs the pagans do not include on their club insignia a bottom rocker indicating the geographical chapter of the member wearing the club's full patch. the pagans are categorized as an outlaw motorcycle gang by the federal bureau of investigation. pagans mc 1% national president arrested on gun charge!
Translated titles:
Ex soldado pagano y Sutars se pronuncia en contra de los clubes de motociclistas
Ehemaliger heidnischer und Sutars-Soldat spricht sich gegen Motorradclubs aus
Un ancien soldat de Pagan et Sutars se prononce contre les clubs de motards
Ex-soldado Pagan e Sutars fala contra clubes de motociclistas
Tidligere hedenske og sutarsoldat taler mod motorcykelklubber
Voormalige Pagan en Sutars-soldaat spreekt zich uit tegen motorclubs
Labhraíonn Iar-Shaighdiúir Págánach agus Sutars i gcoinne Clubanna Gluaisrothar
L'ex soldato Pagan e Sutars parla contro i club motociclistici
Były żołnierz pogan i sutarów wypowiada się przeciwko klubom motocyklowym
Бывший солдат Пэган и Сутарс выступает против мотоцик Развлечения
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This dude drank a 6 pack , took 2 bumps and put his old biker gear on before he called you and was pacing back and forth infront of the mirror smoking a cigarette 😂🤣😂
Right lol
Needed the attention...... His whole chapter folded like cheap chairs.....
😂
@@jamesfitzgerald6005 I think there is more to it than he is letting on...
hahah smh
Never ride a motorcycle again? He never was a biker in the first place. That's just blasphemy in my world. We live for the motorsickle!
#ROCKON
Freaked out on that one myself!
Conan IS a stand up guy. I know he is and has always been loved and respected by many. I would walk through the gates of hell side by side with that man. The situation he's in is heartbreaking. #FREECONAN
#ROCKON
I feel like I lost IQ points listening to this guy speak
You and me both
Just think guy's followed him !
Hard to believe this man was a chapter president. That explains why the club is so screwed up
Even though sometimes its rough listening to I. T. read news, you sure can hold an interview! You keep them on task and ask important ques. relating to the main topic. Thanks for the news!
#ROCKON Knut
I'd like to say,,,,, Every Brother isn't your Brother, but brotherhood across the whole MC is strong,,,, IF,,, you're with the right club.
Exactly
Agreed
Fucking Right
Times have definitely changed.
Sucks to say but was always told you got Brothers and patch holders. Hopefully when in a club you can figure out who is who
This dude’s a fake. I’ve been in a 1% club for 20 years, won’t name which club but it’s one of the big 3. If one of our brothers takes a case, we have his back for the whole time he’s away. We take care of his family & he’ll have a package waiting for him when he gets out. This dude’s problem is he was in the club for all the wrong reasons. Brotherhood is #1 in our club, so not sure what he’s talking about, like I said, he joined for all the wrong reasons. Dudes that join cause they want to live a wild lifestyle o booze, drugs & sex, will be in for a rude awakening. This is why we vet our prospects good & hard before they get that top rocker, we eliminate any frauds like this dude.
Good stuff OG K
Trust me when i tell you he is a punk! And as far as him taking a case, i can’t remember if he was even in the support club yet or just hanging around but a Pagan ( at the time) allegedly hit the awning in a drive thru with a moving van and didn’t have a drivers license so this assclown said he was driving, biiiiig case!!! Trust me i heard about it 1200 times too many!
Ha top rocker
Grown ass man would have left and kept his opinions to himself. prayers to the nation. Nothing but respect
#ROCKON
I left the Pagans in 92 out good considered going back in 94 but passed after the Hackettstown disaster still keep in touch with a few brothers this guy is babbling he had to have done something wrong to b out bad in 2 clubs PFFP forever in my hart
#ROCKON
I think being in a club is more about self discipline. Not about partying, it sounds to me he got involved in the wrong part of the group because he was more concerned with being a degenerate. You stupid games, and you win stupid prizes.
Agreed
🥃Still a lonewolf after 30 yrs of Riding and the amount of loyalty that is here today is no different than it was yesterday.....Absolutely none. 🥃 to the loyal Brothers out there.
#ROCKON Mortails
I'm at the clubhouse 3 nights a week (on average) with many i look at like brothers . I stay a lone wolf though. I go with to other clubhouses and it sometimes makes people wonder why I never have on colors. Especially when one of the higher ups introduces me as his best friend on earth. Im just too old to think I met 30+ dudes without someone ending up to be a snake. I gotta be there for my daughter and granddaughter so that helps keep my thinking straight
Five years in; So. Cal. club, early seventies. Did not care to do what others would not do themselves, among other things. If I do ten thousand miles in a year ,now, 100 of those miles might be with others. Sad, love the company, but....... being around a shit ton of bikes, not knowing the people, ah, no. Took years to get over the loss of the comradery...
I'm in a brotherhood too, the Christian one, and it ain't easy, trust me, but I stick to it because the retirement plan is awesome. Just saying.
#ROCKON Calvary God Bless
YES.........pretending is fun !
This guy is still in a comma.
Agreed
Club life ain't easy. I'm retired from a outlaw m/c out of Texas. Being retired does feel like the world has been lifted off my shoulders. But I still love my Brothers!
#ROCKON
What does "retirement" from a club mean?
@@snesie7172 no longer a member but in good standing with the organization
I've been in an outlaw club in California since I was 23yrs old and I'm in my 40's now. I've been stabbed, shot at, almost kicked off my bike, been in numerous brawls and the life is still easier than the street gang I belonged too. Not sure about everywhere else but myself and the Hispanics in my charter, the ones that have filled my club since the 60's is the reason I've stayed in. It's that family I couldn't imagine going without.
Retirement is different then out bad
AWSOME!!! interview...your the MAN!!! " HOLLYWOOD "
Thanks Jorge
Conan was at everything and made himself available to speak with at everything!!!
#ROCKON
Yes , if there was a issue he would listen, make himself available and was very reasonable and fair across the board. I dont think this guy was in. That kinda piss me off he talks like this about the club. Nothing dont make sense he says to me. Yes there are individuals in there. But as a whole are tight AF. He dont even know the fee price all hear say.
Like the nation ain't gonna figure out who this person is . Lol . He was the one who decided to get involved in the club within the club . Here is the problem people. Some outsiders wants to come in and make a name for themselves this is the # 1 mistake . You have to come in with pack mentality. Now this man don't like when people talk outside the chapter but he got upset when people wouldn't talk to him out of chapter . Something sounds odd to me . And why would any man do time for another. Everyone knows the risks to this game, so if someone gets caught out so be it. Dont do things that will jam you up . I meet up with some I thought they where good guys . I won't elaborate anymore . I never talk acroos the table EVER !!!!! LIKE THEY SAY FRIENDS COME AND GO BUT ENEMIES ACCUMULATE !!!!! IF THIS MAN WANTED OUT AND HE GAVE UP THE BIKE AS WELL WHY DO THIS INTERVIEW ? KEEP QUIET AND MOVE ON BUT NOPE LETS CALL THEM OUT AND TRY TO BE LITTLE THE CLUB ON A SYNDICATE SHOW . BUT HE FIGURES THINGS OUT ! YEAH RIGHT . ACTUALLY HE WORSE MORE THEN WHAT HE IS BITCHING ABOUT HE TALKING OUTSIDE OF THE NATION..... LOL IF HE AIN'T OUT BAD , NOW HE IS !!!!!!!!!
#Rockon Brian
There are times when people do time for others and if that's not loyalty, I don't know what is.
I was waiting for this one and the the show tmrw, great job like always, but it must get annoying when people don't let you finish your questions an statements
It gets real annoying Frank lol
Love your show man. This was a great interview. I almost joined an outlaw group a few years back. My ol lady told me its them or her, so i chose her n our son .Im glad i didn't join because id lose my family and My friend whos in there wishes he had the lifestyle i do. I want a club but something better than that. Very informative. Thanks for all the good episodes and stuff. You're awesome Hollywood
Thanks Shawn- Stay Independent- Thanks for the support
Oraleee good interview, this vato sounds off his rocker.
Indeed
Anyone anywhere near a club or even reads the news in SW Pennsylvania knows who this is, This interview is as anonymous as a fucking super bowl ad.
#ROCKON
BROTHERHOOD is not a joke, I’m sorry he had a bad experience, but all clubs ain’t like this.
Seems like dudes pissed cuz he got into trouble.
I’m sure he knew the RISK of what he was going to do beforehand.
Rockon
Good interview. I not trying to throw shade but from what Hollywood could get out of him it sounded like a few bad apples ruined club life for him.
#ROCKON Patriot
He was the bad apple
I grew up in Philly and my people were involved with the club being talked about and many of my childhood friends grew up to join the club and are still in the club. I also met and I was around Conan when he came too town when I was in my 20's shorty before he went away for a long time and I seriously doubt just about every single thing john doe said??
#ROCKON
Sadly a lot of what he said is true about things going on today. That’s all I’ll say about that. Did he go about handling things the way I would’ve? Absolutely not. But that doesn’t change the fact that a lot of what he said is true...and it ain’t just in one or two clubs either..
Money and ego are DESTROYING the MC World.
FTPP
Thanks for the interview Hollywood!!
You da man!
ML&R Always
Miklo 1%er
Los Perros MC
Morning Miklo
Hey Hollywood. BD & Black Sabbath Nation in mourning! Rest In Peace!! 🙏🏼 Another great show HW!!! 👍🏻
Sorry to hear this
Drunk driver 🤬
Great show Hollywood !!! #Rockon
Thanks Iron Horse
Hollywood, you a patience man. This was a professional interview. You do a great job as always! I dated biker in the past and I listen to educate myself.
Thanks Lisa really appreciate it
Made no sense whatsoever! OIB in both clubs! Both clubs can’t be wrong! Pagans prospect!! LPDP ⚡️⚡️🔷⚡️⚡️ 🌊
I agreed
They're actually making you prospect? They must not like you. They're straight up selling patches to cops in Texas 😆
Hey Hollywood, why do you blur out the Black & White Support stickers behind you?
I don't have the camera focused on the background
SSFFSS🤘🤘🤘
Wow ol' J couldn't even let you talk. Nothing changes. Some is true some is shit but I'm just a chic so what do I know
Right lol
Plus ol J used to be a Mahoning County cop
Bingo!
This guy: then I got a phone call and instead of saying hello, they said hey. So right there I knew there was a green light on me to be killed. This guy assumes a lot
Right
Keith has and always been a stand up guy. FREE CONAN! PFFP
#ROCKON
I don't know about the 16's but the 19's aren't just handing out patches for dough. Great show Hollywod ✊🏼
If a guys out bad with one club maybe its the clubs fault but if hes out bad with two or three clubs its probably not the clubs that are the problem
Good Morning 😃🌞☀️
Good morning!
#RockOn! Yeah I don’t get this guys point, if you’re out and you happy move on, what’s your point? Is a book next? 🤷♂️
#ROCKON David
Never in an MC but I do know that evil will always turn on you. Never had to join an MC to know that cutting corners on the streets eventually lead to betrayal. Too many people chasing the same thing. You realize the street is one big lie just vultures living off young blood. Make clean money.
Interesting
@@insanethrottlebikernews Great show today btw. Im always watching.
Believe it man believe it!!!
#ROCKON
Hard to even understand his beef or his story
Right lol
That's because he can't and won't own up to his own actions being 95 percent of the problems he was dealing with.
I know of a guy who payed 800 bucks and in payments at that to be a 16. This guy aint lying !
Interesting
We need a rebuttal on this turd try to get us one pls, love the show great job
Thanks Bob #ROCKON
No different than a disgruntled ex employee here, ranting against his prior company that fired him. Within any "growth" of a company or an MC (Blue Wave)their will be change. Change in management,change in diamonds. Just one time, I would like to hear the guy out bad say, "you know what I fucked up & deserved to be thrown the fk out". .
Agreed CDJCN
🤙🤙🤙
#ROCKON
The smaller 1%er MCs don't have near the issue with "Out bads" than the bigger ones. Sons of Silence, Galloping Goose are good examples.
#ROCKON
Still about drama, like a nineth grade girl but calling someone in Rockford IL to cry too like nobody around home will ever hear it. Punk!!
Yeah this guy was something else to say the least
He never was very smart
Code-Eerlijk 🎧👂🎤👂🎧
#ROCKOn
Never trust anybody who just shows up and starts using “bro this”. “bro that”
bro is a shortcut to Brother. There are no shortcuts to Brotherhood.
Agreed
That’s been at the core of my beliefs all my life. Brotherhood is worked for, and earned.
I believe he's out bad, because he's too much drama.
Agreed
If someone doesn't know the details of how something went down they shouldn't be taking about. Telephone guy shouldn't be pretending he knows Rooster's or Conan's business.
This is true
Pitiful. I was out bad but I never shat on the club. Brotherhood failed him? Ask yourself if you're a good brother.
#ROCKON Frenchy
@@insanethrottlebikernews forgot! #Rockon!
Take from me I'm Conan's cousin you stand up as they come and he would never take money for his patch he lives and dies for that patch
#ROCKON
Little Dave must have listened to this before coming on
Right lol
Started in 2006, ol timer huh ?? LMAO..... Sounds like a disgruntled employee. KNOW WHAT I MEAN??
Indeed
Of course he won't mention how all of his issues were his own doing and tries to spin it around to make himself look good, but instead he just makes his story even more confusing in the process. Some things never change.
#ROCKON
👍🙏🏼👏👏👊🏼
#ROCKON
Good questions Hollywood. It’s kinda obvious why he was told to hit the road. No heart.
It’s pretty obvious Hollywood see’s through this guys babbling.
Agreed
#ROCKON
#ROCKON
🏴🏳️🏴🏳️🏴🏴SYLM 🏴🏳️🏴🏳️🏴🏳️#ROCKON🤘🏼
#ROCKON
Wow, that was painful to listen to...
Yeah he didn't look good
I am speechless, not really this guy saying there is no brotherhood but on here bad mouthing Rooster and Conan, but then says it wasn't the whole club. Him being out of 2 Clubs in bad standings speaks more volume than any of the shit he was spitting out of his mouth. I'm sure there is bad that goes on but how many brothers did he just sale out putting Club business out there like he just did. Club business is just that, Club business. So it's not Rooster or Conan's loyalty I would question, it's this guy's. But you can take my opinion and a buck 25 and getcha a Tea from McDonald's.
Good stuff right there
I love your show Hollywood and thank you for the quality of show and content you bring. This video popped up again and I am just as fuckin amazed as I was the first time I heard this liptard running his mouth. There is a reason he wants to remain under a hood with no name being told. I don't know alot but I know from listening to this dude HE IS OUT OF 2 BIG CLUB'S IN BAD STANDING'S. B-I-N-G-O!!!! Buy stock in Charmin cuz this dude is full of more shit than a Butterball Turkey
I could be way off, but he does not come across as credible. Maybe he’s putting out the truth, but he came wasn’t very convincing. I think talking around key info makes for a confusing story.
Everyone must research and decide for themselves
Wow!! Just an ex wife of a 13 in the 70's..my my sounds like he got 86ed and didn't complie..lol
Right
This guy might as well use his name because he has said enough info about particular events that members can easily put 2+2 together and know who this guy is
This is true
Not hard to do when someone discloses their current location in the 1st 2 minutes of the interview...
Just got done listening,like he sez,just my opinion, well my opinion is "he's wacked
Got bent,hit wrong button,"Hes' wacked",eh,anybody?
Agreed
Fucking should of stuck with golf. He is the joke. Mumbling fool.
I think it's funny about all these clubs say they r 1% because I'm sorry but they have rules or bylaws they have to follow so how r u a 1%ter this is my thought I do what I want when I want and how I want in my opinion that makes me more 1% then any other clown out there and I probably am a clown but some call me bull
Good question
Sorry if u thought that's a question I pretty much think it's a statement
There's some scoundrel shit to be had out there
Agreed
What does being "put out bad" entail? Matt NYC
It all started making sense at "traumatic brain injury"
Good job Hollywood maybe I’m a prick but if I just met you I’m not calling you bro
#ROCKON Ed
Hollywood could you follow him cuz can't
Hell no I couldn't
I know a few 19s out of gbg/Pgh
This ain’t what I have seen so far
Let’s see how this plays out with the men I’m around 😂
Is this dude just jealous of the leaders? Or mad cause he caught a case and someone else walked? Or is he blaming his leadership on him catching a case... He's all over the place with his story... Keep on keeping on but keep it real...
#ROCKON
John Doe? Lol, not hard to figure out who this is. Some need to take responsibility for their own actions or lack there of instead of blaming EVERYONE ELSE. Brotherhood holds all MCs together. Chapters that don't communicate inevitably fail the whole club. No room for renegades.
Also, the 16s are NOT just selling patches. Not sure how long they have to probate but... No newbie just patch in.
I agreed
Maybe i'm knit-picking being a mythology buff, but it has always driven me nuts when all those guys used the words "Sutar", "Zutar", etc. lol. It is "SURTR" (Pronounced "Sert-er"). If you're gonna wear the fuckin guy at least know how to say his name. lol.
Whatever, ain't a big deal in the end i guess. Just a lil annoying. Lol.
#ROCKON
I'm guessing it depends on what part of Norway your from.
We know.. surtr = black
Wow.... Dude dug his own grave...
#ROCKON
It’s not the organization, it’s indeviduals in the organization that try to climb the ladder an take out brothers that are in there way.seen it to many times……
Agreed
What up. First on the comment.
Morning
OMFG!!! That’s fucked in!!!!
Right lol
Somebody sounds a little bit but hurt to me..
Agreed
Dudes full of shit, you have to do full prospect period I know from exp, all I’m gonna say much love and respect Hollywood.
Agreed Corey #ROCKON
The clicking within the chapter from either ass kissing to running shit will fuck up the Commrodery/Brotherhood very quick...!!!! Its the Pres's. Job to avoid that shit from happening under his watch...!!!
#ROCKON
All formerly great American institutions and organizations are not the same. The WW II, Korea, Vietnam Era Combat Veterans ran & populated these organizations..American Legion VFW, Biker Clubs, Bowling 🎳 leagues.. Politics. Et cetera. These were true brothers bonded in bloody combat...life & death. Loyalty to the band of brothers and America ruled the day. This has changed..No one joins Fraternal Organizations in the numbers they once did..Alot of Selfishness. Not Good. Matt NYC
The Barbarians are none existent anymore ... meeged with the 16's ... trust and believe
#ROCKON
Hard to believe a man who got kicked out of not one but two MC’s. I have no idea who Conan is but I do know the pagans are hardcore and don’t fuck around. No way they are handing out patches for $800 bucks come on now.
It's been established
I think I lost at least 23 IQ points listening to this interviewee.
A lot of people suck. Politics is ruthless. In any club corporations government. And law Enforcement. I keep my circle small because humans are dangerous. I respect all keep my nose clean and Enjoy the wind.
#ROCKON
When an interviewee starts crapping on people right off the bat, I tend to tune out on what they have to say … dude is overcompensating for some damn thing
I'd be surprised if 5% of your audience understood that. Here, let me interpret. Guy joins club, and not the easy way. Guy does some hard uh work for club.
Some drug addict in the orbit conspires with someone outside the chapter to yank one of the guys uh business interests away from him and to give it to somebody else outside the chapter. Those who did this was egged on by certain women, not that it woulda made any difference.
Higher ups know about it but rather than put a stop to it for brotherhood, condone it so they can get a cut. Guy sees it as being knifed in the back and tries to take care of it. How, I don't know.
Guy is riding his bike and gets run over by a car and isn't that strange timing. Guy almost dies but pulls through. Guy quits. Then guy gets put out bad.
Interesting
Sounds f@@@@@ just saying ..Rockon Hollywood
Right Archie lol
Well this dude definitely isn’t smart........
Indeed
Not 100% Hollywood’s fault, but what a mess this interview is. From the very beginning you don’t have any clue at all what the hell the guy is talking about. He is all over the place with no foundation for anything he’s saying. My advice to Hollywood would be to make guests explain in detail the backstory, instead of thinking the audience knows already
Next time al crap in the veteran dr lap
#ROCKON
Part about the women running shit, fucking nailed it. They do most of the heavy lifting😂😂😂😂😂
#ROCKON
Yeah right lol
Yea after hearing it to the end that dude just wanted Air time with you. They dont hand out patches trust me
Agreed Mike
Wacked
It was
Like an egg in a frying pan
Out bad becauae he's a snitch himself.
MLAR dude!
Interesting
What that F. This guys speak to much. Cry like a lady.
Indeed