Maryyen Cruorem It’s still cruel because their instincts will force them to eat each other. Plus every living thing experiences fear, and being trapped in a room slowly dying is pretty fuckin scary.
I agree. I thought that he was going to be the white male punching bag for the season but, he must have had it written into his contract that it wouldn't be him.
I know right? His performance really made me wish that he was the main companion. Like it would be nice for a change to have an older companion instead of young ones all the time (especially hate the ones that suddenly start having relationships with the Doc, because why the fuck not??)
Completely agree. I wish they actually made Graham the focus of this episode. Bradley Walsh is becoming my favourite of this season so far. He actually shows emotions and feels believable.
SpankMeSanta I'm not against them in fact I think they are better episodes usually. It's just this season, Chibnail said every story is standalone and there is no overarching plot. Probably also why they throw character traits out the window each episode.
@SpankMeSanta yes there will be no overreaching plot for the series, just episodic and only ever "new villans" so no mention of even use of any of the previously established races.
Chibbers was announced back in 2015. He has had over 2 years to make 10 45 minute episodes of this show and somehow after 2 years of work this is what we get?
Why do they need to call to police? Yaz ‘is’ the police and despite the antagonist holding her at gun point, a multitude of criminal offences in the UK, she is far too busy be a token Muslim to be effective I guess.
The Trump caricature is painstakingly on the nose. I don't mind when Doctor Who tackles political themes but not so much when they're partisan about them, especially when it's as hamfisted as "wHy DoNt We JuSt ShOoT tHeM, tHaT's WhAt ReAsOnAbLe PeOpLe Do..."
the worst part is the entire time he was right. reasonable people would shoot them when theres dozens of mutant killer spiders threatening to overrun a populated area and trapping them all in.
@@assistantmagus5213 oh yes. You have progressive vegan feminists. Then add mutant spiders and they aren't so progressive anymore ;) hell all you need to add is a normal spider to the mix and they change their tune.
A war on Metebelis 3 has one of the planet's moons crash onto the Earth. The spiders on it burrow into the Earth, returning to the "normal primitive spider" state they were in the first place. After being mutated by an insane billionaire's trash pile, the spiders grow EVEN LARGER, and begin to attack the Humans, attempting to colonize a new planet for themselves. That good enough?
This season finally broke me. I've watched Who since the classic era when I was a kid. I gave up after the 2nd episode of this season. Somehow Chibnall has managed to do what I thought impossible and actually make the show even worse than Moffat did. Now I just watch the reviews to see if there is any improvement rather than subjecting myself to the episodes firsthand.
It may not be working, but the direction the show is going is far better than moffat era. Sure, most of the stuff doesn't work, but at least he's trying new things and new monsters rather than sticking to a formula (like a series formula that moffat did). Each episode is it's own self contained story which I am much preferring over the moffat era.
Jack Wood I personally think that’s part of the problem and was always an issue with latter day Chibnall episodes pre-Jodie Whittaker. I think Chris has good ideas, but like Moffat, he can’t always weave them neatly into a well paced story. There’s no breathing room, and whilst he seems to want to take a slower, talkier pace, you only have 50 minutes to play with, and so whilst the character writing and drama is relatively strong, the sci-fi elements and villains are very weak. The whole self contained, monster of the week villain and rushed last minute conclusions are giving me bad flashbacks to series 7. Speaking of which, an easy example in that series would be the Power of Three, in which the ideas are absolutely golden in that episode and it works well for the first half, but just feels like a rushed convenient mess by the end.
@@FerretLG1 Yeah the rushed conclusions are starting to piss me off, we NEED a 2 parter desperately already... Plus some returning monsters would be nice, as Rosa and this episode had no fucking sci fi in it (pretty much)
Also what about all the spiders throughout the city? They are still out there . They for sure didn’t wait long enough for all of them to get into the panic room and they wouldn’t have heard the music anyways so they’re still out and about.
@@benchilcott6908 His suggestion, Metabelis Three would be a reference to previous episodes. He's not saying your suggestion (which is a good one, BTW) would be...
Since episode one my eyes have been stuck in a constant rolling motion. Also see if you can look past how that American who owns the hotel looks like a discount Alec Baldwin.
@@Jack-ry7fl I agree and I think he gets way too much criticism. OK he had certain things that I didn't agree with - for example pretending to kill characters then bringing them back - but the vast majority of what he did was at the very least entertaining. Season 10 was disappointing but season 11 is terrible.
Personaly, I don't like the theme of how they should treat this spiders with respect, but for a different reason. The doctor seems not to treat them with respect at all! She smiles as she is planning to kill the mother spider and she locks them up in ridiculously small space, considering that we saw at least one spider that was almost the size of the safe room! Doctor being way more cruel than she should be seems to be kind of Chibnall's thing, and it's especially weird because of the anti-violence message that is everywhere in his episodes. Just look at The Women Who Fell to Earth - in one of the last scenes the doctor is taking great satisfaction in watching her enemie's cruel demise, but when the almost victim of the monster pushes him of the crane, she screams about how it shouldn't have been done. WTF, Chibnall, make up your mind, the Doctor can't be simulanously cruel and pacifistic!
Worst than the 5th doctor killing Omega coldly, even though indecisiveness is part of his character. At least, he did it to save the entire universe from an matter/antimatter explosive reaction. But from what I heard, the 13rd doctor killed while not even solving the Spider issue in Sheffield. Terrible characterization... If we are supposed to feel sorry for the arachnids but the doctor exterminate them without an afterthought, doesn't this make her a sociopath?
So after the initial hype of a female doctor has died down exactly what I thought would happen is happening. Series 11 is rapidly turning into a train wreck. weak companions and a lead actress who doesn't look comfortable in the role, and the death stroke of boring uninteresting stories. Compare this to Matt Smith or Tennant who by 5 episodes into there runs had there Doctors nailed and all told its not looking good. Sorry but the Jodie experiment just isn't working. And if the series carrys on the way it's going I fear for its future.
I think the major problem is that Chris chibnall isn't trying to establish a season-long Arc and have individual episode instead so none of these episodes really feel as though they're building to anything they're just random and if you're going to do that the episodes have to be compelling from beginning to end which they haven't been halfway through the season it feels really safe like he's afraid to take creative chances because he knows this season will be scrutinized heavily
I agree with a lot of what you say. I also feel that this series before it even got off the ground was hijacked by the PC brigade at the BBC and instead of looking at what worked and was best for the series, they instead went down the route of let's just change everything. The occasional standalone story is fine but at the moment it's like there running in treacle. It's halfway through and hopefully it improves but I'm not convinced it will.
Daniel May has nothing to do with pc but hey... the problem is simply the standalone stuff, that is what’s missing, in every other series we got some arch that was referenced in moments that now feel empty
The problem isn't the actors. It's the writing. Actors don't have control over plot, dialogue, etc. Which is what can make or break a show. Bad actor, replace the actor, done. Bad writing, potentially replace an entire writing team and the new people figure out what to do to bring a bad show back up and keep continuity and whatever else. It has nothing to do with the actors or the doctor being played by a woman. It has everything to so with writing and chibnall.
Chibnall has stated that during this season no past monsters from Dr Who are returning. Which is why we've had the Stenzar and Tim Shaw, The cloth enemies and mutant spiders.
I mean, Im not really surprised at all that this season isnt being well received. I knew it would be lackluster hearing all the behind the scenes stuff and after the first episode i knew it wasnt going to be that good. What other people saw in that first episode besides better cinematography Ill never know.
Jack Wood It is. It’s my favourite episode of all time, but this guy didn’t seem to like it very much for his review so I wondered if his opinions changed at all.
@@maxeyre2024 He's entitled to his opinion. He really liked Listen but didn't like Vincent and the Doctor. I disagree with both but at least he's consistent in his opinion, and while I may not agree with the result all the time, he still provides strong evidence for his POV. TL;DR it's his opinion so probably not
@@maxeyre2024 Alright then, it's now confession time. Which ones do you love/like but everyone seems to hate/dislike. Personally I like Timeheist and knock knock
They jokingly implied in Rosa that Doc and Graham are a thing. (also i imagine the 1st Doctor having a fit about being called Doc every time he says it)
Yaz is a police officer and in possession of a warrant card. She doesn't use it to show her authority in any situation to either investigate or gain control. For example, showing Jane her badge would have allowed her to discuss the spider research. The Doctor could have even flashed her magic paper and played off the humour of not looking like pest control or the police. Undercover etc. The rest of the video I agree with but I wanted spiders causing buses to nearly crash and climb over a supertram even stuck in an oversized web on the bridge. The infestation would be cool. BTW: It was funny but adding 'Spiders in the bath' from the kids TV show Spider was both funny from it's nistolgia but did a better job at being haunting!
This is exactly what I didn't want DW ever to become... Basic, boring and annoying with poorly written dialogs and cheap CGI... I'm so disappointed....
The only reason why this episode didn't make me bored was the fact it was set in Sheffield which is the city I live in. Apart from that this was an incredibly weak episode.
I so want to like Jodie Whittaker, and after having seen Broadchurch and her doing Antigone onstage, I can't believe how bad the writing has been for this season. And as an American, I am telling you that the BBC is risking a HUGE chunk of it's audience over here with episodes like this turd and having Chris Noth play a horribly bad Trump caricature. I mean, the dialog was cartoon villainish. The nonsense that came out of Noth's mouth from the writers reminded me of old GI Joe and Transformers cartoons from the 1980's. I can only hope that the rest of the season picks up and gets better, because so far, Doctor Who is not only full progressive nonsense and social justice warrior, but it's doing so and it thinks it's doing well. It's not. Whittaker as an actor deserves better than the writing she's been handed.
As a Transformers G1 fan, I have to say there are actually a few better lines in Transformers G1 than in this episode, The Woman Who Fell To Earth and over half of Moffatt's episodes.
The thirteenth doctor is like a child wandering around a sweet shop, who hasn't eaten for weeks and being left in the shop neglectfully taking the wrong, annoying choices and doing irritating actions. Also, scheduled toilet break? Capaldi took a season to wonder who he was.
When the boss is talking to the female employee at the start and says "we're family right, what are you?", the reply from the female character is"I'm your niece's wife". So we're told that this female character is gay, which has nothing to do with the storyline whatsoever. I was hoping for more sci-fi and no more social justice warrioring from the BBC with the change of writer that this series had, however, it seems that writers just have to put that stuff in if the episode is to be aired by the BBC. Hopefully the series will one day get back to great sci-fi writing and stop trying to be a vehicle for promoting "progressive" views of the world that have nothing to do with the story. Great analysis btw. Thanks.
@2manynegativewaves You missed my point by a country mile. My point was that throwing in these little asides re someone's lifestyle or sexuality (about which I care nothing either way) is nothing to do with the storyline, and as such, is immersion breaking. Its nothing more than a BBC diversity checklist, and detracts from what should be a great sci-fi show. I believe Dr Who tried something similar in the original series where they attempted to be educational.....it was short lived, unlike the current trend.
I completely agree with the original comment. Compare this to a character like Captain Jack. He was essentially sexually attracted to virtually everything; women, men, aliens, robots, himself, and I think even a fucking dog once. However, this was woven into the plot like a quilt. It fit perfectly. They never tried to single it out for progressive points either. At least I don't remember that ever occurring. It was part of his character. He was from the far future, from a time where they were much more open about the idea of sexuality than we are now. The only thing he never liked was children. It was comfortable, funny and also made him UNIQUE. Being a gay who likes man peepee or woman boob does NOT make you a complex, likable, interesting or unique character. It makes you a stupid quota to be filled or a flat piece of nothing. And lastly, not that it should matter or make my point any more valued, but I'm "LGBT" myself and I find it patronising that we're being reduced to one tiny aspect of ourselves that doesn't even matter at all.
@@Tyler-ny9ty Even then this week's was so riddled with bad writing and pointless scenes it was just terrible. I've gotten to the point where hoping this season will pick up is pointless. Every single episode so far has left me bored or disappointed. Sorry to say but Chris Chibnall is destroying doctor who. I pray for the days of Moffat again
Agreed. My left nut could write better stories than that. Poor Jodie is being lined up to cop the blame for the final death of Doctor Who. Corporate BBC arseholes!!!!
This is so like Chibnall - bring MORE characters!!1 So far (only 4 episodes) we've seen: the doctor, three companions at once, Graham's wife (can't even remember her name), Jasmine's mother, father and sister (their names too). More characters less meaning...
Didn't they mention that the only reason the spider was in that apartment was because of the pheromones on the dead lady they found there. So essentially, ALL the spiders were in that hotel and the one strayed off because of the smell there.
So hoping for some real SCI-FI without badly handled political overtones. Why make a trump clone who says he hates trump if you want to dis trump? I keep thinking of "Rose" when The Doctor says: "The ground beneath our feet is spinning at 1000 miles and hour, and the entire planet hurtling around the sun at 67,000 miles an hour and I can feel it....that's who I am." Please, please let Doctor Who be Doctor Who. I miss it so much. HARRY"S (and so many others) DIMINISHING EXPECTATIONS.
When Graham entered his house and saw his wife I thought that the spiders had 'evolved' a new trapping mechanism. Since their webs would be ineffective at catching humans they needed to deploy some kind of psychological lure to entice humans to come closer so that the spiders could feed, hence the appearance of Graham's wife. This could have been a real threat as everyone would be a target, and it could even reveal what characters truly want. There could have been a moment where Jas would see Ryan and she'd walk towards him confessing her love to him, but it would be spider trap all along. But no, the spiders were just normal plain spider, but bigger.
Ladies and gentlemen... from the man who brought you dinosaurs on a spaceship: slightly bigger normal ass spiders in a localised area of Sheffield. Talk about going from low to low
Hey! Wouldn't it be nice if the doctor had some kind of space/time travel machine where she could have taken them spiders to another environment where they could thrive? Like another planet or something? Or is that only reserved for bad guys who will totally refuse the deal?
I love how they found the spider, run out of the door that opens into the room, and they guys uses his weight to keep the door close.... his pushing the door inward...the direction it opens.
Yaz feels like adric, and i hope people stop trying to ship a 2000 year old alien with 20 year old humans like something out of a bad fanfic, it was dumb in tennant's era and it's dumb here please stop and please don't do it.
I don't think the current writer actually knows what made Doctor Who so likeable. It's as if someone just handed him the cliff notes of the series with all the main points like "the doctor doesn't like guns", "the doctor is lonely" and "the Doctor dresses poorly" and he just set out to force in each of those points into the episodes, when all he really wants to do is make shitty leftist propaganda. What I'm trying to say is: Doctor Who has become the most pointless character in Doctor Who.
This could have been the sequel to Planet of the Spiders. Arriving through a portal, Metebelis III spiders come to the aid of the Sheffield spiders, having sensed their plight. Knowing the spiders have no future on Earth, the Doctor helps both the Metebelis III and Sheffield spiders to escape back through the portal. The Doctor did not want to kill them, so this would have been a good ending. Continuity can be full of problems, but this would have been the perfect moral climax!!!
I actually liked the episode, but then again Im just happy about new episodes and generally dont worry too much about plotholes during watching Thats my own flaw of course and I understand that a lot of people care a lot and notice them immediatly All in all I think your criticism is valid but for me personally, its not bad and I really like the new doctor I will admit I wouldve liked to see more of the giant spiders in more spaces of the city! Would have underlined the pressure of the problem I dont really see some of the other things you pointed out, but of course people are all different and I put different importance on things than you do Thank you for reviewing the episode regardless!
If there’s one thing that they could have done they could have used the scene between Yaz and her father to reference her Nan in some way which could pay off in Demons of the Punjab. Sadly they didn’t use this opportunity, thus it may not be the episode I hope it will be.
I was hoping for something clever. A nod to the Doctor's past. I was hoping the Doctor would find someway to transfer the spiders to a distant planet where they could exist in peace, like Metebelis Three.
I wonder how good it would be if one of the companions actually agreed with Jack's mercy killing, but was too scared to mention their opinion in case the others turn on them and kick them out of the crew. That would add a sense of realism to the show: progressive intolerance of differing views.
FISH fingers and custard? Pretty sure he also tucks into the stolen roast during The Empty Child as well. The Doctor may have said he was going vegie in the end of that episode, but I am pretty sure he also mentioned once or twice something about not blowing up entire planets as well.
I watch ever episode twice. Once by my self and once with my dad. By myself I liked it but the second time watching it the flaws really stuck out to me and it’s really really not that good.
What happened to the dead friend back at the flat with the big spider? What happened to all the other spiders at the hotel? Why didn’t the police get involved once it was proved the bad guy was responsible for the deaths of several people and toxic waste dumping? The show made no sense.
The verdict for this episode (minus the Smith comment 😅) is kind of how I feel about series 11. It's just... _kinda_ working, but not feeling good or like Doctor Who-levels-of-hype. Any chance they'll get RTD to write an episode?
My argument about the gun thing. Yaz is in a situation with giant spiders. Yaz is also in a situation out of her depth right now where the guy could probably just pay to get out of jail should she arrest him or he even finds a way to make her not believed. She would be out of her depth. She has no back up right now, so why try.
whoever played the scientist lady was AWFUL at acting, and it's true, they didn't solve the problem at all, just cut to them leaving sheffield and that was a bit annoying
What a patronizing episode. Who wouldve thought that an episode about giant terrifying spiders infesting the UK could be SO boring. The spiders were not threatening at all and the ending was completely nonsensical. They stood around and just talked to each other for like 10 minutes every time ANYTHING happens. I am so tired of this formula and we're not even a quarter way through the season. Its embarassing.
Great video Thank you for reviewing this season as I love your videos Spiders in the Sheffield is the title I used all week because Where the massive spiders actually about the uk or just Sheffield
One missed component in this review. There were at least two characters who apparently suffered with arachnophobia, who then walked around, and were attacked by spiders the size of dogs, and one the size of a small car. As an arachnophobe myself, I can confirm that they would be suffering from extreme PTSD, and would probably spend most of the episode unable to breath from shear terror. Bad research.
Once again you captured my feelings almost exactly. The boss was over the top, the spiders grown big by toxic waste a tired and hackneyed plot device, and the resolution boring and unsatisfying. My only minor nitpick is that The Doctor's vegetarian leanings have been established to at least as far back as the Colin Baker era - I remember it being a plot point in The Two Doctors. Other than that, spot on analysis as usual.
I felt that this episode was the first one of the series that actually felt like a proper dr who episode. Episode 1 felt too dark and even slightly Torchwood esq. Ghost monument was a dull, non threatening filler episode. Rosa had some good emotional moments but was a bit too political. The Villain was underwhelming and it whilst it is important to make people aware of these events, I don't think 50 minutes of a sci fi show is the best way to do it. I have nothing against people that loved this episode and were touched by it but it didn't feel like a proper dr who episode to me. Whilst this episode had plot issues, generic plot and annoying moments, it felt like what a Dr who episode should be in terms of a sci fi show. I still wish that they woukd tone down the political aspects though. Hopefully the rest of season 11 will improve and stick to what dr who is
Yeah, I feel the same way regarding the fact that this could have been the first "proper" Doctor Who episode, which makes me even more angry about the cringing dialogue, the holes in the plot and the absurd storyline.
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"doctor, you know they'd eat each other or sufficate in that room right?
"its humane"
"but surely shooting them..."
"ITS HUMANE!!!!!"
Doctor who. Teaching kids important life lessons since 1963
Shooting it was more humane. Why let a creature suffer and suffocate . Totally missed it,Chibnall.
Insects and arachnids can't feel pain. They don't have pain receptors ffs. Where is the logic? This episode... Jesus Christ.
Maryyen Cruorem It’s still cruel because their instincts will force them to eat each other.
Plus every living thing experiences fear, and being trapped in a room slowly dying is pretty fuckin scary.
@@maryyencruorem564 what so if you cut off its legs it dont feel it?
The writing made me forget that Yas was a policewomen. God damn
to be honest our police are that shit, so she is very realistic.
Next episode she will arrest graham for manspreading.
I gotta say that Bradley Walsh is killing it in this series. I am waaaaay more invested in his character than anything else in this show right now.
Graham/Bradley is probably the best part of the show, everything else seems to sway between shit and meh.
I agree. I thought that he was going to be the white male punching bag for the season but, he must have had it written into his contract that it wouldn't be him.
I know right? His performance really made me wish that he was the main companion. Like it would be nice for a change to have an older companion instead of young ones all the time (especially hate the ones that suddenly start having relationships with the Doc, because why the fuck not??)
@@sugarcookieP Yeah. The last older companion was Wilfred for a bit and a lot of people LOVED him.
Me too, and I can barely stand to listen to him on The Chase.
I feel pity for the bloke who had to animate those bloody spiders
Bloke, not block.
Leo Caldwell thanks 👍
ThatLegoGuy 029 No Problem 👌
Did you type with an accent there? :) Jokes, but that was so funny though.
*Bloke or woman. (I'm American so I don't know-is there a female equivalent of "bloke" in British English?)
But anyway I agree. XD
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I want Russell T Davies back.
Steven Mofatt
Levi Ewart he was alright
Don’t we all
Moffat
He's actually considered it, but never has. Shame, he *made* this show.
Completely agree. I wish they actually made Graham the focus of this episode. Bradley Walsh is becoming my favourite of this season so far. He actually shows emotions and feels believable.
The character inconsistency is just terrible. I think it's worse than it's ever been.
SpankMeSanta Sadly there won't be any two parters. Though I don't know if I would want to watch a boring 2-parter.
SpankMeSanta I'm not against them in fact I think they are better episodes usually. It's just this season, Chibnail said every story is standalone and there is no overarching plot. Probably also why they throw character traits out the window each episode.
@SpankMeSanta yes there will be no overreaching plot for the series, just episodic and only ever "new villans" so no mention of even use of any of the previously established races.
I haven’t noticed any inconsistencies. What have you noticed?
Chibbers was announced back in 2015. He has had over 2 years to make 10 45 minute episodes of this show and somehow after 2 years of work this is what we get?
"Why doesn't any of them go to the police" Doctor who logic 101
@@backupaccount1764 As we all know, the police *cannot under any circumstances* enter a hotel
THE LAST TIMELORD yes because police are going to believe giant spiders in a hotel that eat people
@@keyanstoney1742 Plus they'd probably just die anyway because the giant spiders are dangerous and standard British police don't have guns
The Camel Channel well they have guns but not bring them to where people say there are giant spiders
Why do they need to call to police? Yaz ‘is’ the police and despite the antagonist holding her at gun point, a multitude of criminal offences in the UK, she is far too busy be a token Muslim to be effective I guess.
The Trump caricature is painstakingly on the nose. I don't mind when Doctor Who tackles political themes but not so much when they're partisan about them, especially when it's as hamfisted as "wHy DoNt We JuSt ShOoT tHeM, tHaT's WhAt ReAsOnAbLe PeOpLe Do..."
the worst part is the entire time he was right. reasonable people would shoot them when theres dozens of mutant killer spiders threatening to overrun a populated area and trapping them all in.
thatguyyousawinasda ideological blindness at work I'm sure
My thoughts exactly
Tbf in another film, that ‘why don’t you shoot them, like a civilised person?’ Would be an EPIC badass one liner
@@assistantmagus5213 oh yes.
You have progressive vegan feminists.
Then add mutant spiders and they aren't so progressive anymore ;)
hell all you need to add is a normal spider to the mix and they change their tune.
Wishing it was a crossover episode with Shelob and Aragog
Or even the spider planet from the Pertwee days.
Sadly not as that would have meant needing some interesting characters and some form of plot...
A war on Metebelis 3 has one of the planet's moons crash onto the Earth. The spiders on it burrow into the Earth, returning to the "normal primitive spider" state they were in the first place.
After being mutated by an insane billionaire's trash pile, the spiders grow EVEN LARGER, and begin to attack the Humans, attempting to colonize a new planet for themselves.
That good enough?
This season finally broke me. I've watched Who since the classic era when I was a kid. I gave up after the 2nd episode of this season. Somehow Chibnall has managed to do what I thought impossible and actually make the show even worse than Moffat did. Now I just watch the reviews to see if there is any improvement rather than subjecting myself to the episodes firsthand.
It may not be working, but the direction the show is going is far better than moffat era. Sure, most of the stuff doesn't work, but at least he's trying new things and new monsters rather than sticking to a formula (like a series formula that moffat did). Each episode is it's own self contained story which I am much preferring over the moffat era.
Jack Wood I personally think that’s part of the problem and was always an issue with latter day Chibnall episodes pre-Jodie Whittaker. I think Chris has good ideas, but like Moffat, he can’t always weave them neatly into a well paced story. There’s no breathing room, and whilst he seems to want to take a slower, talkier pace, you only have 50 minutes to play with, and so whilst the character writing and drama is relatively strong, the sci-fi elements and villains are very weak. The whole self contained, monster of the week villain and rushed last minute conclusions are giving me bad flashbacks to series 7. Speaking of which, an easy example in that series would be the Power of Three, in which the ideas are absolutely golden in that episode and it works well for the first half, but just feels like a rushed convenient mess by the end.
@@FerretLG1 Yeah the rushed conclusions are starting to piss me off, we NEED a 2 parter desperately already... Plus some returning monsters would be nice, as Rosa and this episode had no fucking sci fi in it (pretty much)
Damn you literally went through 6 years of Maffat and gave up after 2 weeks of Chibnall? It ain't that bad...
Rosa is great, IMO.
Also what about all the spiders throughout the city? They are still out there . They for sure didn’t wait long enough for all of them to get into the panic room and they wouldn’t have heard the music anyways so they’re still out and about.
And they’ll mate and grow huge as fuck and reemerge and kill everyone...
Great job, problem solved!
Series 11 is really lacklustre right now .
its such a shame because the first episode was great!
I zoned out several times during todays episode, can't be bothered to re-watch it either.
definitely shows Chibnall's touch - that being, painfully mediocre. not terrible or offensive, but awfully un-memorable.
Episode 5 seems to be picking up a bit more now
@@SuperVideo1 I think it was terrible. So many opportunities wasted...
I feel like the doctor could have used the TARDIS to take the big spider to an abandoned and more oxygen rich planet or something.
Metabelis Three? Oh wait, the new showrunners have decided there will be no references to the Classic Era...
Mud Crab which is good because then you can say this isn't canon seeing as it has no connection to past episodes
@@mudcrab3420 how would that be a reference to previous episodes?
@@benchilcott6908 His suggestion, Metabelis Three would be a reference to previous episodes. He's not saying your suggestion (which is a good one, BTW) would be...
@@irrevenant3 ah gotcha
Since episode one my eyes have been stuck in a constant rolling motion. Also see if you can look past how that American who owns the hotel looks like a discount Alec Baldwin.
He also looks a lot like Chris Noth...
Doctor Who needs more old companions, Graham and Wilfred are awesome!
I mean technically she's no spring chicken herself.
and benni
that was particularly awful, but in general this season is making me miss Moffat
At least Moffat had ambition. We may have critised his decisions but at least he made them.
To me, it's not that bad yet.
@@TheSmart-CasualGamer It is WAY worse than anything from the Moffat era.
I actually like moffat
@@Jack-ry7fl I agree and I think he gets way too much criticism. OK he had certain things that I didn't agree with - for example pretending to kill characters then bringing them back - but the vast majority of what he did was at the very least entertaining. Season 10 was disappointing but season 11 is terrible.
Personaly, I don't like the theme of how they should treat this spiders with respect, but for a different reason. The doctor seems not to treat them with respect at all! She smiles as she is planning to kill the mother spider and she locks them up in ridiculously small space, considering that we saw at least one spider that was almost the size of the safe room! Doctor being way more cruel than she should be seems to be kind of Chibnall's thing, and it's especially weird because of the anti-violence message that is everywhere in his episodes. Just look at The Women Who Fell to Earth - in one of the last scenes the doctor is taking great satisfaction in watching her enemie's cruel demise, but when the almost victim of the monster pushes him of the crane, she screams about how it shouldn't have been done. WTF, Chibnall, make up your mind, the Doctor can't be simulanously cruel and pacifistic!
Worst than the 5th doctor killing Omega coldly, even though indecisiveness is part of his character. At least, he did it to save the entire universe from an matter/antimatter explosive reaction. But from what I heard, the 13rd doctor killed while not even solving the Spider issue in Sheffield. Terrible characterization... If we are supposed to feel sorry for the arachnids but the doctor exterminate them without an afterthought, doesn't this make her a sociopath?
You can't expect logic or even consistency in Aunty's bizarro version of ethics. The fact that they push this twaddle on kids should be a crime.
So after the initial hype of a female doctor has died down exactly what I thought would happen is happening. Series 11 is rapidly turning into a train wreck. weak companions and a lead actress who doesn't look comfortable in the role, and the death stroke of boring uninteresting stories. Compare this to Matt Smith or Tennant who by 5 episodes into there runs had there Doctors nailed and all told its not looking good. Sorry but the Jodie experiment just isn't working. And if the series carrys on the way it's going I fear for its future.
I think the major problem is that Chris chibnall isn't trying to establish a season-long Arc and have individual episode instead so none of these episodes really feel as though they're building to anything they're just random and if you're going to do that the episodes have to be compelling from beginning to end which they haven't been halfway through the season it feels really safe like he's afraid to take creative chances because he knows this season will be scrutinized heavily
I agree with a lot of what you say. I also feel that this series before it even got off the ground was hijacked by the PC brigade at the BBC and instead of looking at what worked and was best for the series, they instead went down the route of let's just change everything. The occasional standalone story is fine but at the moment it's like there running in treacle. It's halfway through and hopefully it improves but I'm not convinced it will.
where my boi doctor who at wen ya need him?
Daniel May has nothing to do with pc but hey... the problem is simply the standalone stuff, that is what’s missing, in every other series we got some arch that was referenced in moments that now feel empty
The problem isn't the actors. It's the writing. Actors don't have control over plot, dialogue, etc. Which is what can make or break a show. Bad actor, replace the actor, done. Bad writing, potentially replace an entire writing team and the new people figure out what to do to bring a bad show back up and keep continuity and whatever else. It has nothing to do with the actors or the doctor being played by a woman. It has everything to so with writing and chibnall.
Also um... *What happened to the rest of the spiders in Sheffield that weren't in the mansion?*
I look forward to these reviews more than the actual episodes, honestly one of my favourite channels right now
I was expecting the Rachnos from Tennant's era. At least that would be kind of neat instead of "Mutant Spiders"
Chibnall has stated that during this season no past monsters from Dr Who are returning. Which is why we've had the Stenzar and Tim Shaw, The cloth enemies and mutant spiders.
@@Archangelsvoid Whats happening with the Daleks if theres going to be no returning monsters, isnt there a weird contractual agreement?
Mutant spiders can work....but they didn't do anything with them.
@@sheddog09
No there isn't. That's just conspiracy nonsense.
@@tabularasa0606 can I get a source for anyone at the BBC confirming that? Cus all i'v seen is said conspiracy theories for and against it.
I mean, Im not really surprised at all that this season isnt being well received. I knew it would be lackluster hearing all the behind the scenes stuff and after the first episode i knew it wasnt going to be that good. What other people saw in that first episode besides better cinematography Ill never know.
Why do I have a sick feeling that Ed Sheeran is going to appear in Series 12 of Doctor Who?
*shudders*
He'll probably be the next Doctor.
@@MirlitronOne I mean, anyone's better than Jodie Shittaker.
Spot on. We are seeing some great actors ruined by mediocre writing I think. Now 5 episodes in and each one seems more dull than the previous...
Has Heaven Sent grown on you at all?
I thought it was generally agreed that was a great episode... or was that just me?
Jack Wood It is. It’s my favourite episode of all time, but this guy didn’t seem to like it very much for his review so I wondered if his opinions changed at all.
@@maxeyre2024 He's entitled to his opinion. He really liked Listen but didn't like Vincent and the Doctor. I disagree with both but at least he's consistent in his opinion, and while I may not agree with the result all the time, he still provides strong evidence for his POV.
TL;DR it's his opinion so probably not
Jack Wood I know he’s entitled to his opinion, I just wondered if it changed over time. Some episodes grew on me over time as well.
@@maxeyre2024 Alright then, it's now confession time. Which ones do you love/like but everyone seems to hate/dislike. Personally I like Timeheist and knock knock
The doctor was wrong for locking them in the room
American dude was right
Yaz yet again contributed very little
well she is the diversity hire.
The BBC has checkboxes now. Sadly those checkboxes don't involve talented acting or good writing.
I hope Graham gets a bit of action soon
They jokingly implied in Rosa that Doc and Graham are a thing. (also i imagine the 1st Doctor having a fit about being called Doc every time he says it)
He's the best character so far in this series.
Yaz is a police officer and in possession of a warrant card.
She doesn't use it to show her authority in any situation to either investigate or gain control. For example, showing Jane her badge would have allowed her to discuss the spider research.
The Doctor could have even flashed her magic paper and played off the humour of not looking like pest control or the police. Undercover etc.
The rest of the video I agree with but I wanted spiders causing buses to nearly crash and climb over a supertram even stuck in an oversized web on the bridge.
The infestation would be cool.
BTW: It was funny but adding 'Spiders in the bath' from the kids TV show Spider was both funny from it's nistolgia but did a better job at being haunting!
*Awful mental images*
Yes as did the last two episodes. Enthusiasm? Gone.
This is exactly what I didn't want DW ever to become... Basic, boring and annoying with poorly written dialogs and cheap CGI... I'm so disappointed....
Doctor who is on right now on the bbc, i switched it off half way, just can't be arsed with it anymore.
Best episode so far! I mean the review; definitely worth the wait!
couldn't agree more! This video is much more entertaining than the episodes of doctor who T.T
yeah. it actually makes me depressed how bad Doctor Who is now :/
The only reason why this episode didn't make me bored was the fact it was set in Sheffield which is the city I live in. Apart from that this was an incredibly weak episode.
When you think it couldnt get worse than this... Space Evil Stitch
Damn dude you're tearing these episodes apart! I'm almost relieved I haven't watched since episode 2, doesn't look like there's much to miss
oh god can't wait for the review of this weeks episode it was comically bad
It sucked so bad genuinely cringed throughout the whole 50 minutes
I so want to like Jodie Whittaker, and after having seen Broadchurch and her doing Antigone onstage, I can't believe how bad the writing has been for this season. And as an American, I am telling you that the BBC is risking a HUGE chunk of it's audience over here with episodes like this turd and having Chris Noth play a horribly bad Trump caricature. I mean, the dialog was cartoon villainish. The nonsense that came out of Noth's mouth from the writers reminded me of old GI Joe and Transformers cartoons from the 1980's. I can only hope that the rest of the season picks up and gets better, because so far, Doctor Who is not only full progressive nonsense and social justice warrior, but it's doing so and it thinks it's doing well. It's not. Whittaker as an actor deserves better than the writing she's been handed.
As a Transformers G1 fan, I have to say there are actually a few better lines in Transformers G1 than in this episode, The Woman Who Fell To Earth and over half of Moffatt's episodes.
The thirteenth doctor is like a child wandering around a sweet shop, who hasn't eaten for weeks and being left in the shop neglectfully taking the wrong, annoying choices and doing irritating actions. Also, scheduled toilet break? Capaldi took a season to wonder who he was.
When the boss is talking to the female employee at the start and says "we're family right, what are you?", the reply from the female character is"I'm your niece's wife".
So we're told that this female character is gay, which has nothing to do with the storyline whatsoever.
I was hoping for more sci-fi and no more social justice warrioring from the BBC with the change of writer that this series had, however, it seems that writers just have to put that stuff in if the episode is to be aired by the BBC.
Hopefully the series will one day get back to great sci-fi writing and stop trying to be a vehicle for promoting "progressive" views of the world that have nothing to do with the story.
Great analysis btw. Thanks.
Zippy bruh it doesn’t make a difference whether she said nephew’s wife or niece’s wife
@2manynegativewaves You missed my point by a country mile.
My point was that throwing in these little asides re someone's lifestyle or sexuality (about which I care nothing either way) is nothing to do with the storyline, and as such, is immersion breaking.
Its nothing more than a BBC diversity checklist, and detracts from what should be a great sci-fi show.
I believe Dr Who tried something similar in the original series where they attempted to be educational.....it was short lived, unlike the current trend.
I completely agree with the original comment.
Compare this to a character like Captain Jack. He was essentially sexually attracted to virtually everything; women, men, aliens, robots, himself, and I think even a fucking dog once.
However, this was woven into the plot like a quilt. It fit perfectly. They never tried to single it out for progressive points either. At least I don't remember that ever occurring.
It was part of his character. He was from the far future, from a time where they were much more open about the idea of sexuality than we are now. The only thing he never liked was children.
It was comfortable, funny and also made him UNIQUE.
Being a gay who likes man peepee or woman boob does NOT make you a complex, likable, interesting or unique character. It makes you a stupid quota to be filled or a flat piece of nothing.
And lastly, not that it should matter or make my point any more valued, but I'm "LGBT" myself and I find it patronising that we're being reduced to one tiny aspect of ourselves that doesn't even matter at all.
You thought this one was bad... wait until you see this weeks... Oh dear me this isnt looking good....
DanIsInsane this weeks episode was not good but it’s actually the best this season. That is saying a lot.
@@Tyler-ny9ty Even then this week's was so riddled with bad writing and pointless scenes it was just terrible. I've gotten to the point where hoping this season will pick up is pointless. Every single episode so far has left me bored or disappointed. Sorry to say but Chris Chibnall is destroying doctor who. I pray for the days of Moffat again
Chibnall needs to hand the writing off to someone else,...anyone else.
Agreed. My left nut could write better stories than that. Poor Jodie is being lined up to cop the blame for the final death of Doctor Who. Corporate BBC arseholes!!!!
This is so like Chibnall - bring MORE characters!!1
So far (only 4 episodes) we've seen: the doctor, three companions at once, Graham's wife (can't even remember her name), Jasmine's mother, father and sister (their names too).
More characters less meaning...
I just watched the latest episode, The Tsuranga conundrum.
Doctor who is dead
Didn't they mention that the only reason the spider was in that apartment was because of the pheromones on the dead lady they found there.
So essentially, ALL the spiders were in that hotel and the one strayed off because of the smell there.
Anyone else put eurobeat to the Tardis traveling through the new timey-wimey portal after the guy said "I say when to go"?
So hoping for some real SCI-FI without badly handled political overtones. Why make a trump clone who says he hates trump if you want to dis trump? I keep thinking of "Rose" when The Doctor says: "The ground beneath our feet is spinning at 1000 miles and hour, and the entire planet hurtling around the sun at 67,000 miles an hour and I can feel it....that's who I am." Please, please let Doctor Who be Doctor Who. I miss it so much. HARRY"S (and so many others) DIMINISHING EXPECTATIONS.
Don’t end the poor, confused spiders pain,let them slowly and painfully die in a room with no air or food.
When Graham entered his house and saw his wife I thought that the spiders had 'evolved' a new trapping mechanism. Since their webs would be ineffective at catching humans they needed to deploy some kind of psychological lure to entice humans to come closer so that the spiders could feed, hence the appearance of Graham's wife. This could have been a real threat as everyone would be a target, and it could even reveal what characters truly want. There could have been a moment where Jas would see Ryan and she'd walk towards him confessing her love to him, but it would be spider trap all along. But no, the spiders were just normal plain spider, but bigger.
Ladies and gentlemen... from the man who brought you dinosaurs on a spaceship: slightly bigger normal ass spiders in a localised area of Sheffield. Talk about going from low to low
I put this right at the side of the "abzorbaloff" episode... RIP DW. :'c
just endured episode 5... and I have lost all hope.
We need to force Chris Cibnall or whatever his name is, out of the director chair. He. IS. Terrible.
Yes Absolutely. It did suck.
The Trump guy was like if Trump's persona from The Apprentice actually walked around shouting "you're fired" at people in real life.
Hey! Wouldn't it be nice if the doctor had some kind of space/time travel machine where she could have taken them spiders to another environment where they could thrive?
Like another planet or something?
Or is that only reserved for bad guys who will totally refuse the deal?
T E A A T Y A Z S
The Green Death did such a better job at highlighting this problem...40 YEARS AGO!! :/
I frickin' love your editing. It's beautiful.
I love how they found the spider, run out of the door that opens into the room, and they guys uses his weight to keep the door close.... his pushing the door inward...the direction it opens.
One thing i completely forgot about with my disappointment in this episode... it's another episode set in mordern day uk...
Yaz feels like adric, and i hope people stop trying to ship a 2000 year old alien with 20 year old humans like something out of a bad fanfic, it was dumb in tennant's era and it's dumb here please stop and please don't do it.
I haven't even seen the episode but I know that's not true, it's in Sheffield
Yeah sorry, what i meant to say was mordern day uk
Mordern is in Middle Earth surely?
I don't think the current writer actually knows what made Doctor Who so likeable. It's as if someone just handed him the cliff notes of the series with all the main points like "the doctor doesn't like guns", "the doctor is lonely" and "the Doctor dresses poorly" and he just set out to force in each of those points into the episodes, when all he really wants to do is make shitty leftist propaganda.
What I'm trying to say is: Doctor Who has become the most pointless character in Doctor Who.
On all eights I’d say
When your an arachnophobe and can't stand to watch the episode or the footage of this video, so you just listen to the audio. Good times.
This could have been the sequel to Planet of the Spiders. Arriving through a portal, Metebelis III spiders come to the aid of the Sheffield spiders, having sensed their plight. Knowing the spiders have no future on Earth, the Doctor helps both the Metebelis III and Sheffield spiders to escape back through the portal. The Doctor did not want to kill them, so this would have been a good ending. Continuity can be full of problems, but this would have been the perfect moral climax!!!
I actually liked the episode, but then again Im just happy about new episodes and generally dont worry too much about plotholes during watching
Thats my own flaw of course and I understand that a lot of people care a lot and notice them immediatly
All in all I think your criticism is valid but for me personally, its not bad and I really like the new doctor
I will admit I wouldve liked to see more of the giant spiders in more spaces of the city! Would have underlined the pressure of the problem
I dont really see some of the other things you pointed out, but of course people are all different and I put different importance on things than you do
Thank you for reviewing the episode regardless!
thats like me
Really? _RREEEAAALLLYYY?_
This is actual crap....
Whatever floats your boat
I found it boring
I loved it because I have horendus araknathobia so it really creeped me out
i watched this episode with my family and we were just so confused on how the doctor didn't solve the spider problem. she just left.
I completely missed the nod to "Anarchy in the UK". Thanks.
If there’s one thing that they could have done they could have used the scene between Yaz and her father to reference her Nan in some way which could pay off in Demons of the Punjab. Sadly they didn’t use this opportunity, thus it may not be the episode I hope it will be.
I was hoping for something clever. A nod to the Doctor's past. I was hoping the Doctor would find someway to transfer the spiders to a distant planet where they could exist in peace, like Metebelis Three.
Yes it did SUCK !!! I wish we could see at least one good episode !! I miss my Doctor Who 😭😭😭😭
I loved Ghost Monument. Really don't get the hate for that episode.
I wonder how good it would be if one of the companions actually agreed with Jack's mercy killing, but was too scared to mention their opinion in case the others turn on them and kick them out of the crew.
That would add a sense of realism to the show: progressive intolerance of differing views.
I am surprised you did not make a note of how many shots the security dude fired at point blank and apparently missed every shot
the Doctor has been a veterinarian since the 6th Doctor in the two Doctors
Alex Bennett I think you mean vegetarian
FISH fingers and custard?
Pretty sure he also tucks into the stolen roast during The Empty Child as well.
The Doctor may have said he was going vegie in the end of that episode, but I am pretty sure he also mentioned once or twice something about not blowing up entire planets as well.
I watch ever episode twice. Once by my self and once with my dad. By myself I liked it but the second time watching it the flaws really stuck out to me and it’s really really not that good.
I would have thought this spider outbreak would lead to a breakdown in LAW and ORDER :)
This episode is what a terrible version of The Green Death and Planet of the Spiders would be like. Those episodes are worlds better!
What happened to the dead friend back at the flat with the big spider? What happened to all the other spiders at the hotel? Why didn’t the police get involved once it was proved the bad guy was responsible for the deaths of several people and toxic waste dumping? The show made no sense.
The verdict for this episode (minus the Smith comment 😅) is kind of how I feel about series 11. It's just... _kinda_ working, but not feeling good or like Doctor Who-levels-of-hype. Any chance they'll get RTD to write an episode?
I've noticed that the doctor's shirt keeps changing back & forth from Navy blue to red throughout the show since episode 2
My argument about the gun thing.
Yaz is in a situation with giant spiders.
Yaz is also in a situation out of her depth right now where the guy could probably just pay to get out of jail should she arrest him or he even finds a way to make her not believed.
She would be out of her depth. She has no back up right now, so why try.
HARRY'S HAUNTED HOUSE IS THE BEST FOR DOCTOR WHO REVIEWS
yes it did and it sucked aaaaassssssssss
Nice spider effects though.
whoever played the scientist lady was AWFUL at acting, and it's true, they didn't solve the problem at all, just cut to them leaving sheffield and that was a bit annoying
This episode is a rip off of the green death from 1973
(5 seconds into video.) 1 word: 'Agreed.'
What a patronizing episode. Who wouldve thought that an episode about giant terrifying spiders infesting the UK could be SO boring. The spiders were not threatening at all and the ending was completely nonsensical. They stood around and just talked to each other for like 10 minutes every time ANYTHING happens. I am so tired of this formula and we're not even a quarter way through the season. Its embarassing.
Man this episode was like a bad Earth Defense Force game.
there's such a thing as a bad Earth defence force game? surely you jest? EDF! EDF! EDF!
@@sheddog09 exactly, that's how bad it was! Now if the EDF deployed then it'd be a different story...
I refer to my previous statement of EDF! EDF! EDF! but add an oooraaaah
@@WeedDigimon
that "spider in the bath" song brought back childhood memories I thought I'd suppressed
Great video
Thank you for reviewing this season as I love your videos
Spiders in the Sheffield is the title I used all week because Where the massive spiders actually about the uk or just Sheffield
Did it suck 😏
Yes it did 😖
@@aliteralhorse5023 I thought it achieved the impossible. It managed to suck and blow at the same time!
@@Armadacon 😥
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE!!!!
Imho Spiders in Sheffield has a better ring to it. Also it is more honest
One missed component in this review. There were at least two characters who apparently suffered with arachnophobia, who then walked around, and were attacked by spiders the size of dogs, and one the size of a small car. As an arachnophobe myself, I can confirm that they would be suffering from extreme PTSD, and would probably spend most of the episode unable to breath from shear terror. Bad research.
I am an arachnophobe too and I HATE they had to give arachnophobia to someone and then misrepresent it. It wasn't used for anything, so stupid.
Fell asleep while it was on. Woke up still on. Turned telly over . Load of carp !!!!!
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On a side note can you do a review of the Inside No. 9 live special and everything it did right?
Once again you captured my feelings almost exactly. The boss was over the top, the spiders grown big by toxic waste a tired and hackneyed plot device, and the resolution boring and unsatisfying.
My only minor nitpick is that The Doctor's vegetarian leanings have been established to at least as far back as the Colin Baker era - I remember it being a plot point in The Two Doctors.
Other than that, spot on analysis as usual.
Fish fingers and custard.
I loved Trump 2.0, we laughed our asses off reacting to every line he had in our review.
I felt that this episode was the first one of the series that actually felt like a proper dr who episode.
Episode 1 felt too dark and even slightly Torchwood esq.
Ghost monument was a dull, non threatening filler episode.
Rosa had some good emotional moments but was a bit too political. The Villain was underwhelming and it whilst it is important to make people aware of these events, I don't think 50 minutes of a sci fi show is the best way to do it. I have nothing against people that loved this episode and were touched by it but it didn't feel like a proper dr who episode to me.
Whilst this episode had plot issues, generic plot and annoying moments, it felt like what a Dr who episode should be in terms of a sci fi show. I still wish that they woukd tone down the political aspects though. Hopefully the rest of season 11 will improve and stick to what dr who is
Yeah, I feel the same way regarding the fact that this could have been the first "proper" Doctor Who episode, which makes me even more angry about the cringing dialogue, the holes in the plot and the absurd storyline.
Dark? I'll say. Episode one had a body count of six while the Doctor saved one dork.
the end of doctor who rest in peace .