Dear Roobert33, I would like to cite your video and give you credit on your work so I could use it appropriately for a science project. Some basic information like your name, qualifications and perhaps the sources you may have used would be considered as useful information. Thank you for you quick response. Cheers!!
Great work. How long does it run without replacing salt water? and how long without replacing / cleaning the electrodes? in shord what is the mAh capacity
Want an even stronger one? Get some copper or steel foil and cut the can to make sheets of aluminum. Clean off the ink to shiny metal. Next make a paste from some rust, a bit of charcoal, some baking soda and salt water. Solder a wire to the copper or steel strip, then apply the paste to copper or steel strip and wrap with a layer of paper towel. Next roll the alumium strip with the wrapped strip like a jelly roll. Your battery will make about 4 to 6A and 1.3 to 1.5V😮
Why aren't we using this technology for everything? Gas and electrics going down. I lost a friend in the war. I'm angry at the fact that this is so hush hush. Man, especially ships and boats? The saltwater will never need to be replaced and the propeller is the main function. I vote for flying boats and cars. RUclips search "Loon Copter" on the Science Channel. I want to make a lifesize version of that using Saltwater and Copper Technology. Let's do this!!!💓
Aluminum air batteries are used pretty much exclusively by the military, problem is " recharging " is essentially Aluminum recycling, there is a company called urabat out of Japan that developed a rechargeable Aluminum air battery but lithium has a power density advantage and a running start . You must understand their is no " free energy " that's beta decay . Or the weak nuclear force .
You can use other motors by make several cells and connect them in series to increase voltage (positive to negative) or parallel to increase current (positive to positive and negative to negative) to the amount you need.
I bought several motors to try and use for this. The one that we will most likely two has the following specifications: Voltage Range: 1.5-3DC Current: .18-.25A at no load .70A plus or minus 15% at max efficiency Speed: 8700 RPM plus or minus 12% at no load 5800 RPM plus or minus 12% at max efficiency Shaft Length: 38mm (1.5inches) Shaft Diameter: 0.0787 mm Output: 0.31W Torque: 5.5g/cm Is this an acceptable motor to use. Also we will be using a regular sized coke can instead of a larger one, how much water and salt should we use accordingly? Also where do we attach the alligator clips to on the motor, and does it matter which alligator clip goes to which material? Thanks in advance for your help. For clarification I am using a Metal Gear Motor from Radio Shack product number 273-0258
Hello it's me again I wanted to also state that maybe you should tell us where you got your materials I think we all know where you can get aluminum cans but that copper plate did you buy it or was it a piece of scrap maybe you could suggest where we could get a plate such as that thanks again
Hello. Congratulations for this experiment, as well as the others videos yours that i recently saw. My question about this battery is about to the duration of the reaction. In this case, how long continuous and uninterrupted use until you have to do new solution of water and salt, and/or replace one or both electrodes? Thank you for your attention. PS: Sorry my bad English.
WHAT COULD BE USED TO SUBTITUTE THE COPPER PLATE.CAUSE I CANT FIND.MY WORK CANT PRODUCE ELECTRICITY.NOT EVEN LIGHT A BULB.PLSSS..MAKE A SIMPLE ONE.TNX.HOPE YOU WORK FOR IT
What is the fan voltage and current draw? Yes, this is a nifty, easy way to DIY a battery, but why didn't you put a voltmeter and ammeter on the battery? See how much it actually supplies because the fan's rotation is VERY slow. Redo this video so we can see what the battery can do before we go out and buy expensive copper pipe and find out that other ways work better!
roobert if you could find a way to keep the water to continuously circulate between a few containers and had something along the lines of what you built here, would that keep you a steady stream of voltage? Without it dissipating? I saw in your other video you kept picking up the can and copper tune and shaking them and it made the amperage go back up.
Please direct me to the document that describe the theory behind the experimental. I need to explain it to my 12 years old daughter. She was excited when watching to this video. Will the experimental work if I use LED instead of a motor?
samantha jackson The tin does not matter if it is full or empty. The successful safe operation, the motor is 2 volts low current consumption, the engines of toys to 2-3 volts does not work.
Your video would have been perfect for us if you told us exactly how long it would run, just about everybody makes these types of batteries but no one gives information on runtime or other types of low test numbers and math are everything
the project does work, but it does not produce enough power to turn a motor. we tried a lot of times, but it just didn't work. any way to fix this problem?
Thank you for your reply it was an excellent answer, here's what we want to know which of the objects or metals is the sacrificial, is it the aluminum that gets ate up or is it the copper remember the more information we have the better your RUclips videos are, suggestion put the information at the bottom of the video written this gives indication of some of the things people want to know we know about salt water batteries what we don't know is things on how long what makes them stop can you recharge them all kind of little information you would learn by using them that you could pass on again thank you for coming it back I appreciate it and keep creating and making RUclips videos like this
+Electricexperimentsroobert33 i have 3 questions, first do i have to remove the paint? and second is can i put the copper in a place and the can in another place but in the same container? and last is can i use copper wires instead of the copper sheet? please try to reply ASAP
this is what is known as a battery. 2 different metals dipped in an acid. if you have mercury fillings and somehow foil gets in your mouth... same effect and thus the funny feeling, your saliva is the acid btw :)
You have said on your previous comments that it can be charged with a 1.5 volt battery. Can you explain how? Do you connect the terminals of the cell to the copper and the can? Or do we dip it in the salt water?
How did you disassemble the propeller/cooling fan? Because you know how apart of the cooling fan is like a square frame, i just need to know how to take it off of that. Do you know how i can disassemble it?
One question , will it work the same with a can full of sand or the sugar inside plays a role in this ? I mean i've seen potatos giving out current but nothing like this can you explain , thanks .
Can't you just put a copper rod and aluminum rod in the cup of salt water to make it work? If not why does it need to be the way you did it? Also how long would that device run for before the aluminum gets eaten away? On a side note did you know that if you sealed it up you would notice that it released hydrogen due to the break down of aluminum would some use it for energy in a hydrogen generator. Wikipedia aluminum which says more about hydrolysis.
Scale this up a bit...... 1 1/2 in aluminum pipe inside a 2 in copper pipe, bicycle inner tube bands as separators......24 - 30 feet long. place it in seawater. Both ends open for sea water flow. Houseboats, catamarans, deep sea fishing boats, anything that floats on/in seawater. Permanent, continuous electrical power, 12-24-48 volts DC, maybe more.
we experimented on this but using galvanize metal instead and a copper wire, even on water only u can produce an average voltage of 1v. copper and aluminum needs an isolated ground in order to discharge voltage and that ground must be conductive as wet soil or water... my problem is, i have already connected this in series and produced almost 14volts but the amperage is quite very low.. what do you think is the problem?
noel dc * The Engine 2 volts can be retrieved from a copier is not working.** To secure the success of this experiment, it is necessary to have an motor that has a low power consumption 15-20 mA max. and a voltage of 2-3 volts. It 'not recommended to use all kinds of motors for toys.
We have done everything as you have shown, but we are generating very little electricity - not enough to turn the motor. Any suggestions for us please? It is urgent - for my son's science fair.
Karen Stadler For proper operation of the system, you need the proper motor. In this case, it takes an engine which has a low current absorption. The explanation of the correct motor, it is written in the video description. In all cases, the engines of toys, whatever they are, do not work for this system.
Umm I am doing this for my science fair and we have to do a report so I was wondering if you could really tell it to me in a way where I can write 3 chapters consisting of 3 paragraphs on how it works and stuff please?
this is really great but i have a question... can this work with a light bulb? and also does the ratio of volts change as you increase salt and water I need these answers ASAP and thanks
Thanku very much sir for this great idea. I had tried it at home and it really work. Just what we have to do is to give it a start.once again thanku😚😍☠
Dear Roobert33,
I would like to cite your video and give you credit on your work so I could use it appropriately for a science project. Some basic information like your name, qualifications and perhaps the sources you may have used would be considered as useful information. Thank you for you quick response. Cheers!!
Great work. How long does it run without replacing salt water? and how long without replacing / cleaning the electrodes? in shord what is the mAh capacity
Want an even stronger one? Get some copper or steel foil and cut the can to make sheets of aluminum. Clean off the ink to shiny metal. Next make a paste from some rust, a bit of charcoal, some baking soda and salt water. Solder a wire to the copper or steel strip, then apply the paste to copper or steel strip and wrap with a layer of paper towel. Next roll the alumium strip with the wrapped strip like a jelly roll. Your battery will make about 4 to 6A and 1.3 to 1.5V😮
Why aren't we using this technology for everything? Gas and electrics going down. I lost a friend in the war. I'm angry at the fact that this is so hush hush. Man, especially ships and boats? The saltwater will never need to be replaced and the propeller is the main function. I vote for flying boats and cars. RUclips search "Loon Copter" on the Science Channel. I want to make a lifesize version of that using Saltwater and Copper Technology. Let's do this!!!💓
Aluminum air batteries are used pretty much exclusively by the military, problem is " recharging " is essentially Aluminum recycling, there is a company called urabat out of Japan that developed a rechargeable Aluminum air battery but lithium has a power density advantage and a running start . You must understand their is no " free energy " that's beta decay . Or the weak nuclear force .
You can use other motors by make several cells and connect them in series to increase voltage (positive to negative) or parallel to increase current (positive to positive and negative to negative) to the amount you need.
so we make aluminum boats they can run without fuel then.... done.
Only if you want to travel at one millimeter per hour.
@@JohnSmith-cj9cx more electrolytes
Very awesome experiment! the result was great, it works and looks just like a duracell battery haha! Its always good to see a new video from you!
where did you buy the copper sheet
I bought several motors to try and use for this. The one that we will most likely two has the following specifications:
Voltage Range: 1.5-3DC
Current: .18-.25A at no load
.70A plus or minus 15% at max efficiency
Speed: 8700 RPM plus or minus 12% at no load
5800 RPM plus or minus 12% at max efficiency
Shaft Length: 38mm (1.5inches)
Shaft Diameter: 0.0787 mm
Output: 0.31W
Torque: 5.5g/cm
Is this an acceptable motor to use. Also we will be using a regular sized coke can instead of a larger one, how much water and salt should we use accordingly? Also where do we attach the alligator clips to on the motor, and does it matter which alligator clip goes to which material? Thanks in advance for your help.
For clarification I am using a Metal Gear Motor from Radio Shack product number 273-0258
Any content inside the can does not matter, the part that conducts current is the outside of the can :)
Ahahahah!.... sound is great...lovely sound!
Hello it's me again I wanted to also state that maybe you should tell us where you got your materials I think we all know where you can get aluminum cans but that copper plate did you buy it or was it a piece of scrap maybe you could suggest where we could get a plate such as that thanks again
It looks like copper pipe.
The copper you can buy it in a large hardware store, you have to remove the fan from inside an old PC.
@gunjan sachdeva
is important, the paint insulation above the can.
I have learnt new useful concepts. i am grateful
+OSCAR ABAGALI Thanks :)
YUM YUM lets add some radium in the salt water and see if it boosts the voltage... nice video!!
If you take away the rubber isolators it is a short circuit and will not work.
You can also put the plastic insulators.
Hello. Congratulations for this experiment, as well as the others videos yours that i recently saw.
My question about this battery is about to the duration of the reaction. In this case, how long continuous and uninterrupted use until you have to do new solution of water and salt, and/or replace one or both electrodes?
Thank you for your attention.
PS: Sorry my bad English.
So where are the electrons coming from? The salt? The water?
WHAT COULD BE USED TO SUBTITUTE THE COPPER PLATE.CAUSE I CANT FIND.MY WORK CANT PRODUCE ELECTRICITY.NOT EVEN LIGHT A BULB.PLSSS..MAKE A SIMPLE ONE.TNX.HOPE YOU WORK FOR IT
this one is SIMPLE AS FUCK
What is the fan voltage and current draw? Yes, this is a nifty, easy way to DIY a battery, but why didn't you put a voltmeter and ammeter on the battery? See how much it actually supplies because the fan's rotation is VERY slow. Redo this video so we can see what the battery can do before we go out and buy expensive copper pipe and find out that other ways work better!
roobert if you could find a way to keep the water to continuously circulate between a few containers and had something along the lines of what you built here, would that keep you a steady stream of voltage? Without it dissipating? I saw in your other video you kept picking up the can and copper tune and shaking them and it made the amperage go back up.
Yes, you're right, if you shake the water the voltage and current are fairly constant for a longer time :)
Please direct me to the document that describe the theory behind the experimental. I need to explain it to my 12 years old daughter. She was excited when watching to this video.
Will the experimental work if I use LED instead of a motor?
Is the can filled or empty? Or does it matter? I cant get it to work. How do you charge the motor with batteries? This project is not working?
samantha jackson The tin does not matter if it is full or empty. The successful safe operation, the motor is 2 volts low current consumption, the engines of toys to 2-3 volts does not work.
The motor is supported on a base of plexiglass.
Your video would have been perfect for us if you told us exactly how long it would run, just about everybody makes these types of batteries but no one gives information on runtime or other types of low test numbers and math are everything
Some have made them run for weeks at a time. It depends on a lot of different parameters.
awesome! like a modern version of the Bagdad Battery. Thank you for sharing.
the project does work, but it does not produce enough power to turn a motor. we tried a lot of times, but it just didn't work. any way to fix this problem?
Zayan Haque
How long would the fan run for?
Omg this is gonna put those evil oil industries out of business!
Thank you for your reply it was an excellent answer, here's what we want to know which of the objects or metals is the sacrificial, is it the aluminum that gets ate up or is it the copper remember the more information we have the better your RUclips videos are, suggestion put the information at the bottom of the video written this gives indication of some of the things people want to know we know about salt water batteries what we don't know is things on how long what makes them stop can you recharge them all kind of little information you would learn by using them that you could pass on again thank you for coming it back I appreciate it and keep creating and making RUclips videos like this
Can we use copper plate at any thickness or we should use only particular thickness plate.
+vipin dharaneether The rubber bands are also good for isolation. The copper plate is fine any thickness.
+Electricexperimentsroobert33 i have 3 questions, first do i have to remove the paint? and second is can i put the copper in a place and the can in another place but in the same container? and last is can i use copper wires instead of the copper sheet? please try to reply ASAP
The rubber used to insulate the copper and aluminum.
Yes, you need the copper.
PLEASEEEE!!! I really need your answer.
What if i use dc motor is 5.9 volts?
Make a few of them and wire them in series.
It wouldn't run, because the voltage of this battery is 2 volts.
@@markpage9079 no we can use a boost converter
@@stemelectronic3799 wrong about the"no", right about the boost converter...l
@@polskiobywatel553
This is a battery ?
I did not understand what you mean, reformulates the question.
Science, love it! Thanks for sharing:)
can saltwater light a bulb?
please give the explanation of the reaction happening here and how does it help us
You have to put a lot of cans and copper in series, at least 30.
Hi! Does the water have to be cold?
this is what is known as a battery. 2 different metals dipped in an acid. if you have mercury fillings and somehow foil gets in your mouth... same effect and thus the funny feeling, your saliva is the acid btw :)
Has the can be filled with coke or empty ?
@gunjan sachdeva
I used a wooden cilynder, you can also use a pipe PVC
is it ok of the aluminium can is empty?
what type of wires have you used?
thanks for showing the back of the fan. shows that it isnt hiding a battery.
The circumference that develops a sheet of copper and can are much more than the bars of copper and aluminum
You have said on your previous comments that it can be charged with a 1.5 volt battery. Can you explain how? Do you connect the terminals of the cell to the copper and the can? Or do we dip it in the salt water?
did you measure the voltage it is giving out ..is there some substitute over the copper plate?anyways thanks for the vid
How did you disassemble the propeller/cooling fan? Because you know how apart of the cooling fan is like a square frame, i just need to know how to take it off of that. Do you know how i can disassemble it?
can I use elastic bands instead of the rubber spacers
Can't think why that wouldn't work. Did you try it?
what will happen after few days of using? is the alluminum melt?
Did that copper sheet cost you an arm an a leg?
what is the chemical formula that takes place between the salt solution and the two metals ? is this classified as the electrolysis of salt water ?
One question , will it work the same with a can full of sand or the sugar inside plays a role in this ? I mean i've seen potatos giving out current but nothing like this can you explain , thanks .
does the amount of salt affect the duration of the rotation of the motor?
Can't you just put a copper rod and aluminum rod in the cup of salt water to make it work? If not why does it need to be the way you did it?
Also how long would that device run for before the aluminum gets eaten away?
On a side note did you know that if you sealed it up you would notice that it released hydrogen due to the break down of aluminum would some use it for energy in a hydrogen generator. Wikipedia aluminum which says more about hydrolysis.
Did it do anything to the coke?.
Great project!
Is it possible that it's working as an Aluminum-Air cell?
More or less..
Scale this up a bit...... 1 1/2 in aluminum pipe inside a 2 in copper pipe, bicycle inner tube bands as separators......24 - 30 feet long. place it in seawater. Both ends open for sea water flow. Houseboats, catamarans, deep sea fishing boats, anything that floats on/in seawater. Permanent, continuous electrical power, 12-24-48 volts DC, maybe more.
Will it produce power indefinitely
someone will have to replace aluminum and the copper though
That is not the law of equivalent exchange.
Can we use the aluminium can and copper separately ... I mean that not separating with rubber spacers plz reply fast
Israt Jahan Moutusi No, it is not possible outdistance them more than 50 mm.
what if i don't have a copper plate i will use what???
What is the current AC or DC? But good demo sir
Ac current
what did you do with the cola do you just paint it or???
+Jesper Handskemager :)
+Electric Experiments Roobert33 I think that was a yes 😂😂
+Jesper Handskemager he used sand paper... dude, don't paint it
It you can buy it in large hardware stores.
we experimented on this but using galvanize metal instead and a copper wire, even on water only u can produce an average voltage of 1v. copper and aluminum needs an isolated ground in order to discharge voltage and that ground must be conductive as wet soil or water... my problem is, i have already connected this in series and produced almost 14volts but the amperage is quite very low.. what do you think is the problem?
As you've said to your replies on your viewers, your using low consumption motor, where can I get this stuff?
noel dc * The Engine 2 volts can be retrieved from a copier is not working.** To secure the success of this experiment, it is necessary to have an motor that has a low power consumption 15-20 mA max. and a voltage of 2-3 volts. It 'not recommended to use all kinds of motors for toys.
What are the names of the cables you used for this experiment? Where did you find the fan/photocopier motor?
mkskills19 The explanation is in the video description.
where can we get the motor
Thanks for the info sir robert but which is much better? Copper sheet or stainless steel?
Daniel Pogi Copper, silver is gold, are the best producers of current. The stainless steel is immediately after these three metals.
can i use brass instead of cooper please reply fast
What type of fan blade did you use and where did you get it from
nice video..............
I never try this
if i go to the sea side.can i use sea water to produce volt?
Sir robert I want to ask something it is ok to use brass instead of copper? Im using 1.5volts motor please repy my answer thanks
Daniel Pogi No, the brass does not produce enough current, a little.
Is there a specific size that the rubber spacer has to be, because i searched for them online and i found rubber spacers that are really small.
rubber band
Yes, he's right "Francois Rousignat"
what other cheap easily available metal can we use in place of copper
Hello, i can use 3voltage of dc motor?
Do you need to use the sand paper step?
Yes, you have to remove the paint on the can of cola, it is an insulator.
We have done everything as you have shown, but we are generating very little electricity - not enough to turn the motor. Any suggestions for us please? It is urgent - for my son's science fair.
Karen Stadler For proper operation of the system, you need the proper motor. In this case, it takes an engine which has a low current absorption. The explanation of the correct motor, it is written in the video description. In all cases, the engines of toys, whatever they are, do not work for this system.
are the two spacers of rubber necessary? can they be "substituted" with another item?
Max Rojas Yes, it can be replaced by elastic rubber.
***** The elastics are used to insulate the can from the copper cylinder, if they touch each are short-circuited and does not operate.
is the copper sheet commonly available enough or should it be of pure form? and can we use more thicker copper
plate?
siva sai Yes, you can use a copper plate thicker, it is important that the pure copper (copper foil)
Umm I am doing this for my science fair and we have to do a report so I was wondering if you could really tell it to me in a way where I can write 3 chapters consisting of 3 paragraphs on how it works and stuff please?
we should use only the motor cd rom 2-3 volts or we can use any motor please reply me fast
this is really great but i have a question... can this work with a light bulb?
and also does the ratio of volts change as you increase salt and water
I need these answers ASAP and thanks
It's been 5 years...
I want to ask you that how many spoons of slat should be added ...........we added 5 spoons already ......but not working reply ad fast as you can
Is the coke tin empty or full? or can it be used in either ways?
What do you call to the Red and Black Wire that you used. Sorry for my bad english :)
Nicee Guuyy They are common copper wires :)
It functions as a battery.
what size was your rubber insulators? Please reply back asap!
what is the thing that you use? a ventilator?
is it necessary to place the metals inside cant be done seprate....im doing this as science experiment in school...it will be great if u guide me.....
Is it okay if I wrap the aluminium can with copper wires without the rubber spacers??
Fahimul Fahim Absolutely NO, the spacers are used to isolate the short circuit between the plates.
If we keep changing the salt water, but not the cans, will it still work? If yes, then for how much time?
Thanku very much sir for this great idea. I had tried it at home and it really work. Just what we have to do is to give it a start.once again thanku😚😍☠
SCIENCE CLEAVE please help me
Plsss help me
What kind of motor ?
is there any substitute for copper. Coz I couldn't get a copper plate. pls reply fast . I have to submit this project tomorrow.
+Dany crise No, only copper, silver
what is the stand that you put the motor and the fan blades on
Can i use a copper wire inatead of copper sheet??
uhm can you suggest any other simple way to do it? but not discarding the seawater. please I really need to make this work