Wow, time flies, feels like the end of an era, the saga of the staccato is coming to a close. I laughed, I cried, sparks flew, emotions ran high. 10/10, would watch again.
Train with 3-different Staccatos daily…… shoot them frequently for a few years now… been shooting handguns since I was 5 yoa…. Just turned 68. Love the guns and have 100% trust in them. Carried Glocks for over a decade as a S/A and still utilize some Glocks…. Great tools in the tool-box🤠Training and conditioning is the ultimate weapon.🧐🇺🇸
“If you have a pile of money to set on fire” -Ben I bought a XC soon after you, felt like I was taking the journey with you. I totally agree. I’m not on any schedule so I will continue on this path. Best!!
Sorry for your loss. I know these times are hard but I'm here to help. I have helped 100's of people walk away from their staccados with a very good success rate. I'll even pay postage when you send them my way.
I am about to receive a new 2024 Staccato C model. My initial shooting with one was flawless, absolutely superior to any of my Glocks in terms of precision accuracy. Been a Glock guy for 3+ decades and currently use a Glock 45MOS and Glock 19MOS with upgrades. My general feeling is that Glocks will handle extreme environments better but I generally reserve that assertion for Gen 1 through 4 as the Gen 5 trigger change doesn't seem to fight off elemental fouling so well. As such, I generally consider the Staccato C and Gen 5 Glocks on par with one another in EDE testing. Staccatos are excellent and premium which if you want a do-all beater gun that is proven, you can buy a few Glocks of different models and still be happy.
I've been down that road. Never with Staccatos but with CZ's and 9mm 1911's for competition and ultimately went back to Glock. I think one can be neurologically fused to a specific type of gun. It's nice to have a bag of parts at a match and be able to fix something when it goes wrong, though it's only been once for me with Glocks (too high a tension recoil spring for powder puff loads may have been swapped in a porta-potty; someone did that once, not saying it was me). Fantastic plastics are simple and reliable. Nothing wrong with that. Carry on.
As far as SA type pistols for Law Enforcement and civilian concealed carry they have many attributes and as all weapons systems they have their faults. My experience training cops in force on force was that occasionally with Single Action Pistols in the clinch the safety would not be activated and the gun would not fire. I am not talking about recruits, I am talking about experienced well trained and practiced Emergency Services (SWAT) cops many of whom have been in gunfights. I didn’t happen often, but it did happen on more than one occasion. It only seemed to happen when there was a significant physical altercation during extreme close quarters combat training. Just something to be aware that occurred in my limited sample. Be conscious and train accordingly if that’s the weapons system of your choosing or if it’s your issued weapon.🇺🇸👮🏻♂️👍🏻
I’m basically….average….basic… kinda old…59 in November. Army Infantryman in the 1980s. I keep everything simple…like myself. Glock 19…Beretta 92….SIG P226…..Beretta APX recently. All factory guns…no upgrades…no bells…no whistles. I shoot weekly…lm mediocre…but l am competent. I keep it simple. Not broke…don’t fix. But the videos and higher end guns are cool…
I agree with the XC "softening you up".....OPEN guns did that for me over the years and going back to Limited .40s was hard......its the same with 9mm Staccatos, they soften up my major caliber shooting but since no one wants to shoot Major anymore, why bother....? 😁 Im still just a Limited shooter at heart....
I think your take is about the msot accurate. Nice guns are nice, they arent necessary, but they are nice. I think alot of people miss the plot with that and have to justify evey last things existance. If you have the cash to splash just buy what you want haha
I appreciate your honest review I on a couple staccatos they're highly overrated good guns which can be problematic I do have an older STI Apiero That runs excellent I have owned everything under the sun whether it runs good or not I will just say so some people will claim to love it even if it jams every time which I always thought kind of odd ha ha
I dont understand why they dont take a Sig P365 style magazine design to make the grip thinner and more classic 1911 feel, they feel way too thick and awkward
@@chronicallyannoyed4947 They have made a smaller mag and grip, it's available on their CS and as of about a month ago, their C models. With both compact and full size grip lengths available.
You should try an MPA DS9 next time around. They also claim some models are suitable for duty/LE, but I wouldn’t carry my Hybrid. She’s pretty spicy. Regardless, much better value than Staccato imo.
Glad I never bought a Staccato….carried my buddies-P and CS for over a month….both were too heavy/bulky on my hip and I hated carrying…went back to my Glock 17 and Hellcat RDP…pretty much only carry the hellcat….that hellcat with a shield smsc red dot, MCarbo trigger kit, streamlight tlr 8….10/13/15 round mag carry options-amazing gun for everyday carry….i don’t trust a sig!
What determines which gun you’re shooting for your classes? Is it what the class is focused on? Example Leo training, and that department carries glocks?
Left the 1911 game for a Glock clone with a 1911 style grip. The clone is literally perfect for my hand size, is much lighter, is far easier to clean and maintain, and with a subtle built in thumb ledge is easier to shoot fast. Timney trigger with a JohnnyGlocks trigger shoe and the thing is amazing. Will I go back to the 1911, probably not.
I usually stay with my P226 and P229 lineups because they keep my trigger discipline on check. With my 2011s/1911ds, I feel I can get sloppy and get away with it. So... I always fight on "do I switch to an easy gun or keep fighting the DA/SA mechanics. Any opinions?
Since we are back to Glocks ….. I have an idea why don’t you try a g49 with a radian ramjet and try an enclosed dot like the Steiner MPS ….. just to test …. For shits and giggles 👀👀
I found out about your channel from Tacticool Girlfriend and i'm so grateful that I have, you've really made me want to get into competitive shooting (I'm 35 so i doubt i'll be winning anything & i'm in NJ to make matters even worse) but because of you I don't feel like I have to get "the best most expensive xyz" to be good. I'm buying a copy of Adaptive Rifle and Practical Shooting Training and looking for a decent belt set up and going to start practicing dry fire with a snap cap in my M&P 2.0 until I can afford a decent red dot. I'm sure in your long history of videos you have plenty of advice for newer shooters but if you see this just know I hope to be in the next class you have in NJ if you ever make your way back out here. Also has anyone ever told you, you look like Time Heidecker? You're like a tactical Tim Heidecker.
Funny, but I use that to teach my students the difference between shit and sugar. Let them shoot the hi point and then the staccato, they get it immediately.
@@tyonidus9337 I agree, nothing but mixed performance and reliability from SS Glock clones. I shot a pair of brand new range rental variants and had stoppages 1/3rd of the shots fired. Never had that with a new Glock.
I do not understand the insane hype around Staccatos, I have shot two a CS and a XC and It was the most underwhelming handgun shooting experience I have ever had, both my Beretta 92x compact and PX4 compact shoot smoother and my Springfield armory mil-spec 1911 has a better trigger. Maybe I shot two bad examples but I don't see the cost to value proposition in them
So end of the day, there’s nothing about Staccato’s design that make them any more ready for duty-use then your typical quality-made Series 70 1911. Just marketing BS.
Came to this channel for the knowledge, stayed for the drama 😂❤
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"One of us. One of us. One of us."
Maybe the staccatos were the friends we made along the way.
Hopefully our friends don't cost us 10k 😂
lmao
😂😂😂
Wow, time flies, feels like the end of an era, the saga of the staccato is coming to a close. I laughed, I cried, sparks flew, emotions ran high. 10/10, would watch again.
The staccato saga has been an emotional rollercoaster for me.
Bought two 4k guns 1 month later " I am not going to be shooting them much". Typical staccato owner
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LOL
Truth
Train with 3-different Staccatos daily…… shoot them frequently for a few years now… been shooting handguns since I was 5 yoa…. Just turned 68. Love the guns and have 100% trust in them. Carried Glocks for over a decade as a S/A and still utilize some Glocks…. Great tools in the tool-box🤠Training and conditioning is the ultimate weapon.🧐🇺🇸
"It's not you, it's me"
I am a certified staccato babysitter and I am available as needed.
For Sale: Lightly used Staccato XC and Staccato P. A little rust, only dropped a few times. Will trade for a stock Glock 47 and fuzzy dice.
I like my G47!
It's true the Staccato will soften you up. So does the Glock. That's why I stay hard and stick my black flint gun.
Underrated comm-…
*primes powder pan*
Underrated comm-…
*packs ball and wadding with ramrod*
Underrated comment
This sounds like a athlete retiring due to injury lol
Langdon Tactical is doing some cool things with the PX4 Storms, and others! Would make for some interesting content, and discussion!
Agreed!
“I don’t want to play with you anymore.”
“If you have a pile of money to set on fire” -Ben I bought a XC soon after you, felt like I was taking the journey with you. I totally agree. I’m not on any schedule so I will continue on this path. Best!!
Sorry for your loss. I know these times are hard but I'm here to help. I have helped 100's of people walk away from their staccados with a very good success rate. I'll even pay postage when you send them my way.
If your life depends on a firearm, being “stupid” easy is a huge win in my book!
Oh no no no Staccato bros...we got to cocky
Fair enough, glad to live in a time where Glocks and Staccatos can be the discussion. 😊
More money than brains ! Congratulations
I think everyone eventually comes back to glocks... its gravity. No escape!
Being curious makes the journey fun! You are having fun!
I am about to receive a new 2024 Staccato C model. My initial shooting with one was flawless, absolutely superior to any of my Glocks in terms of precision accuracy. Been a Glock guy for 3+ decades and currently use a Glock 45MOS and Glock 19MOS with upgrades. My general feeling is that Glocks will handle extreme environments better but I generally reserve that assertion for Gen 1 through 4 as the Gen 5 trigger change doesn't seem to fight off elemental fouling so well. As such, I generally consider the Staccato C and Gen 5 Glocks on par with one another in EDE testing. Staccatos are excellent and premium which if you want a do-all beater gun that is proven, you can buy a few Glocks of different models and still be happy.
I've been down that road. Never with Staccatos but with CZ's and 9mm 1911's for competition and ultimately went back to Glock. I think one can be neurologically fused to a specific type of gun. It's nice to have a bag of parts at a match and be able to fix something when it goes wrong, though it's only been once for me with Glocks (too high a tension recoil spring for powder puff loads may have been swapped in a porta-potty; someone did that once, not saying it was me). Fantastic plastics are simple and reliable. Nothing wrong with that. Carry on.
As far as SA type pistols for Law Enforcement and civilian concealed carry they have many attributes and as all weapons systems they have their faults. My experience training cops in force on force was that occasionally with Single Action Pistols in the clinch the safety would not be activated and the gun would not fire. I am not talking about recruits, I am talking about experienced well trained and practiced Emergency Services (SWAT) cops many of whom have been in gunfights. I didn’t happen often, but it did happen on more than one occasion. It only seemed to happen when there was a significant physical altercation during extreme close quarters combat training. Just something to be aware that occurred in my limited sample. Be conscious and train accordingly if that’s the weapons system of your choosing or if it’s your issued weapon.🇺🇸👮🏻♂️👍🏻
Your experience mirrors mine.
Really enjoyed the staccato video series. Look forward to the return.
It would be interesting to see you go back to the beginning with your Berettas for a month or two.
I’m basically….average….basic… kinda old…59 in November. Army Infantryman in the 1980s. I keep everything simple…like myself. Glock 19…Beretta 92….SIG P226…..Beretta APX recently. All factory guns…no upgrades…no bells…no whistles.
I shoot weekly…lm mediocre…but l am competent. I keep it simple. Not broke…don’t fix. But the videos and higher end guns are cool…
And when you shoot the high end you will give pause, and reflect
Work on your punctuation, grandpa
@@snowgorilla9789 l don’t think that will be me…..l stay in my lane
@@davemichael4808 thank you for that valuable advice
If Joel wants a challenge tell him to go back to his Original Ruger P 89 he use to use 😂
sagedynamics did this drop test on stacc 4.15 part of his testing aswell prime ammo but nothing to report. 4-5 years ago.
I would be interested to see how far you can take a more combat oriented pistol. Like a p226 or hk usp
I agree with the XC "softening you up".....OPEN guns did that for me over the years and going back to Limited .40s was hard......its the same with 9mm Staccatos, they soften up my major caliber shooting but since no one wants to shoot Major anymore, why bother....? 😁 Im still just a Limited shooter at heart....
I think your take is about the msot accurate. Nice guns are nice, they arent necessary, but they are nice. I think alot of people miss the plot with that and have to justify evey last things existance. If you have the cash to splash just buy what you want haha
I appreciate your honest review I on a couple staccatos they're highly overrated good guns which can be problematic I do have an older STI Apiero That runs excellent I have owned everything under the sun whether it runs good or not I will just say so some people will claim to love it even if it jams every time which I always thought kind of odd ha ha
Glock Perfection
It’s not perfection if you have to change out all the original parts
Great video, it would be cool if you did a new drip test video with the staccato but with stronger firing pin spring
the trigger and smoothness of the slide on staccatos are great, the grip and price not so much
The grip blows. If you have medium sized hands, forget about it
I dont understand why they dont take a Sig P365 style magazine design to make the grip thinner and more classic 1911 feel, they feel way too thick and awkward
@@chronicallyannoyed4947 They have made a smaller mag and grip, it's available on their CS and as of about a month ago, their C models. With both compact and full size grip lengths available.
You should try an MPA DS9 next time around. They also claim some models are suitable for duty/LE, but I wouldn’t carry my Hybrid. She’s pretty spicy. Regardless, much better value than Staccato imo.
I fkin love my xc
Dang I was hoping you were bringing them to class next week.
Glad I never bought a Staccato….carried my buddies-P and CS for over a month….both were too heavy/bulky on my hip and I hated carrying…went back to my Glock 17 and Hellcat RDP…pretty much only carry the hellcat….that hellcat with a shield smsc red dot, MCarbo trigger kit, streamlight tlr 8….10/13/15 round mag carry options-amazing gun for everyday carry….i don’t trust a sig!
Jesus! The P and the CS were too heavy for you. Really. You must have the body of an 8 year old.
Hi Ben. Thanks for these videos. What are your top 3 recommendations for ipsc production div guns please? To be competitive not for training.
It’s the “I’m sticking with irons” argument of gun section.
If you don't want them, I'll take them. $100 each. I'll give you my FFL location if you're interested.
Glock love 👍🏻
Staccatos are pretty mid. Not surprised he leaving them behind.
Talking about belt set-ups are you going to be showing your set-up for the Staccato ?
You can ship them to my FFL and I'll keep them company through August if you like...
Breaking up is hard to do 😂
I was waiting for that Whitney Houston song from Bodyguard to play.
Think you could step in front of the camera from the bodyguard while we're at it?
What determines which gun you’re shooting for your classes? Is it what the class is focused on? Example Leo training, and that department carries glocks?
Left the 1911 game for a Glock clone with a 1911 style grip. The clone is literally perfect for my hand size, is much lighter, is far easier to clean and maintain, and with a subtle built in thumb ledge is easier to shoot fast. Timney trigger with a JohnnyGlocks trigger shoe and the thing is amazing. Will I go back to the 1911, probably not.
@@baxrok2. which clone? The bul one?
@@sawoszao Yes, Tomahawk FS.
@@baxrok2.The BUL gun?
@@MrCashewkitty Bul Armory.
You said you will miss them. Know they will miss you as well. 😢
Boat anchor ⚓️
Atlas…this is the way.
I usually stay with my P226 and P229 lineups because they keep my trigger discipline on check. With my 2011s/1911ds, I feel I can get sloppy and get away with it. So... I always fight on "do I switch to an easy gun or keep fighting the DA/SA mechanics. Any opinions?
Talk to me about a belt holster for the staccato p and an SRO? Can’t seem to find what I’m looking for…
send them over to me.....I'll make sure they keep in use and don't rust or anything.....
Love means never having to say you’re sorry.
I’ll take the XC.
It's not too late to change your mind, Ben!
U ever consider training with bul armory?
Thoughts on Shadow systems for competition?
are you planning to try any gucci glocks? Zev Oz9, shadow systems, custom glocks or whatever
glock fawty king
Canik next!
thanks for being rad, teaching dope shit and fuckin with the nerds online
Love stinks yeah yeah 😂
Glock or staccato? Staccato all day long!
Since we are back to Glocks ….. I have an idea why don’t you try a g49 with a radian ramjet and try an enclosed dot like the Steiner MPS ….. just to test …. For shits and giggles 👀👀
Placebo effect
What holster did you use for the P? Just bought your book and I want to start my dry fire practice
Someone didn’t get their check 😂
Where do your PDP’s fit in?
Never thought I would ever hear those words. glock over Staccatto
From Staccato back to Glock, but in .40? Hmmm?? 🤔
Remoil stick with Glock boys to me!
Curious about your opinion on the Laugo Alien Creator?
Awww ya got my click you bastard
Well this is probably too much and I’ll probably regret the investment but I’ll give you 20 American pesos for the XC, I’ll even pay shipping.
I found out about your channel from Tacticool Girlfriend and i'm so grateful that I have, you've really made me want to get into competitive shooting (I'm 35 so i doubt i'll be winning anything & i'm in NJ to make matters even worse) but because of you I don't feel like I have to get "the best most expensive xyz" to be good. I'm buying a copy of Adaptive Rifle and Practical Shooting Training and looking for a decent belt set up and going to start practicing dry fire with a snap cap in my M&P 2.0 until I can afford a decent red dot. I'm sure in your long history of videos you have plenty of advice for newer shooters but if you see this just know I hope to be in the next class you have in NJ if you ever make your way back out here.
Also has anyone ever told you, you look like Time Heidecker? You're like a tactical Tim Heidecker.
They are just like girl friends - easy come easy go. You had the GFE, now it's time to get back to your ride-n-die chick - Glock.
Do you have or plan to get a Walther PDP SF match?
Would you be interested in letting a subscriber borrow a Staccato for a couple of months?
Ultimate HiPoint > Staccato
Funny, but I use that to teach my students the difference between shit and sugar. Let them shoot the hi point and then the staccato, they get it immediately.
"pretty much, it fucking sucks"
Ancient Steggler lore.
Back to Glocks
Ben, have you ever removed the “hump” from one of your glocks? Or shot one that had it done? I prefer it but I wonder what your impression is.
Nice guns, but not 4000 beans nice. Some people have more money than sense.
I think you meant that some people aren't poor.
I agree completely, I have shot better $750 guns
My Staccato P was the 2nd most overrated pistol I've owned. My #1 most overrated was an ACW "Prime Elite" 1911
Ok.
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Quitter😂
I put my hands on a Shadow Systems MR920 the other day. Looks like ill never buy a Glock now 😂😂😂
nothing like a poorly made clone with a flashy colored fluted barrel that has feeding issues and is double the price lol
@@tyonidus9337Yes! On top of that they’re way snappier. I shot a MR920 and a G19 back to back at the range and the SS felt like a 10MM lmao
@@tyonidus9337 I agree, nothing but mixed performance and reliability from SS Glock clones. I shot a pair of brand new range rental variants and had stoppages 1/3rd of the shots fired. Never had that with a new Glock.
non committal
Too big. not suitable for smaller shooters.
Who asked
I do not understand the insane hype around Staccatos, I have shot two a CS and a XC and It was the most underwhelming handgun shooting experience I have ever had, both my Beretta 92x compact and PX4 compact shoot smoother and my Springfield armory mil-spec 1911 has a better trigger. Maybe I shot two bad examples but I don't see the cost to value proposition in them
So end of the day, there’s nothing about Staccato’s design that make them any more ready for duty-use then your typical quality-made Series 70 1911. Just marketing BS.
This dude is a drama doosh. Just out here trying to grow his shit channel.
Staccatos are gay